Monday, March 3, 2014

Quebec Language Police...Life Imitates Art

Quebec store owner ordered to change Facebook page to French


"Eva Cooper argues that Quebec's language law, Bill 101, doesn't cover social media

The owner of a store in Chelsea, Que., says she has been inundated with calls of support since the Quebec government ordered her to change the language on her store’s Facebook page to French.
Eva Cooper owns the women’s clothing boutique store, Delilah (in the Parc), with locations in Ottawa’s Glebe neighbourhood and in Chelsea, just north of Gatineau

The Facebook page is only in English, though the store's pamphlets and signs are in French. (CBC)
Cooper said she serves customers in both languages, but her Facebook posts are mostly in English.
“I was a little bit in shock. I was a bit taken aback,” Cooper said regarding the request to change her Facebook page.
“It’s not like I’ve ever not followed the law with my businesses on the Quebec side.

Customer complaint prompted order;
Cooper said she received a letter from the provincial government after a customer complained the page did not meet the requirements of Bill 101, the main legislation in Quebec’s language policy.

Bill 101: Chapter VII
Language of Commerce and Business52. Catalogues, brochures, folders, commercial directories and any similar publications must be drawn up in French.
Cooper has been ordered to translate her page by March 10 or she could face legal action.
Jean-Pierre Leblanc, a spokesman with Quebec's French-language office, said any promotional material from a business must be written in French, including posts on Facebook and Twitter.
"It's not the media itself, it's the use of it, so when you use it for commercial purpose, advertising, you are selling product or you are advertising for a service, it's applied," said Leblanc.
But Cooper argues there are blurred lines because the law does not mention social media."


 How many of you remember this scene from the movie Canadian Bacon?;


It is a little funny and a lot sad. Ridiculous, and vindictive. 
As Oscar Wilde reminded us so eloquently, "Life imitates art." (the notion that an event in the real world is inspired by a creative work.)

I wonder what kind of hateful mind one must possess to work at the OQLF and thrive in such an atmosphere of intolerance. Like Iran's dogmatic and fanatical religious police the Basiji, who scour the streets in search of immodestly dressed women, so too does the OQLF, which views itself as the protector of all things linguistically pure and chaste.
When Quebec militants observe that religious zealots are unwelcome in Quebec, they conveniently ignore that the only ones terrorizing the public over morality and language are they themselves.
While the PQ and its followers hold that extremists who demand religious piety from those disinclined represent a dangerous affront on freedom, they hold that extremists who demand language compliance, honourable instruments of legitimate public policy.

The reality is that the OQLF, Quebec's language police, is a chickenshit outfit, prone to terrorizing and bullying mom and pop businesses, but utterly afraid of the big boys.

Humourless and faceless ideologues who can actually make sense of demanding English television and radio stations to advertise their wares in French on billboards....Mais Oui!

But when faced with the harsh reality that some big companies will leave Quebec rather then operate in French, the solution is to offer waivers.
Think the OQLF will offer small boutiques, whose clientele is foreign or exclusively English the same opportunity?

I repeat what I've always said, why is it that toy cars must be labeled in French, yet real cars continue to have English dashboards?

Quebec language laws are morally reprehensible because they are enforced selectively.
How would we react if police stood on a busy downtown corner in any Quebec city and ticketed jaywalkers selectively, that is, picking out only those who are people of colour, ignoring the whites. (Oh wait, this actually happens in Montreal.)
And so why do Quebec casinos, owned and operated by a government of Quebec agency, flout the language laws with impunity. How is it they are given a pass, while small fry shopkeepers are terrorized?


The below screenshot comes directly from Loto-Quebec's French language website, proudly showing off all the wonderful slot machines offered in its Quebec casinos, with nary a word in French;


Take note that not only is the artwork in English only, but the instructions as well!

You can visit Loto-Quebec's webpage that proudly introduces all its exclusively English slot machines through a well produced slideshow. HERE
Why do the Quebec casinos, own and operated by a government of Quebec  agency, flout the language laws with impunity?

So I repeat what I've always said, why is it that toy cars must be labeled in French, yet real cars continue to have English dashboards?


I'm going to say this again, that we as a targeted minority shouldn't complain if we are not willing to make any effort to resist.

Most businesses just cave in to the pressure in order to buy their peace, it is sad, but true. 
 “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”- Ben Franklin

If every targeted business would invest a thousand dollars and would committ its time to drag the OQLF in a time-consuming and bitter legal battle, the wheels of the OQLF would fall off.
If every OQLF inspector understood that he or she was walking into a hornet's nest instead of a fearful and compliant victim and every single file would be a bloody battle royale, things would change.
Like a bully who finds that his victims are fighting back and with effect, attitudes quickly change.

Each case can easily be dragged out for years and years and this at almost no cost. Most cases will be dropped anyways because for the OQLF, pursuing tiny cases costs an enormous amount of money and so tying up legal resources, a legitimate act of social defiance.

If Eva Cooper just says no to the OQLF over the Facebook page, it will mean a lengthy delay (years) before the issue is decided in court (and there is absolutely no overwhelming expectation that the OQLF will win.)
In the meantime, the OQLF will send out hundreds of letters pretending that the issue is cut and dried, when clearly it is not.
If everyone who received such a letter refused to comply based on the position that the request is beyond the scope of the law, it will be the OQLF which will be perturbed.
Every OQLF employee who is required to spend loads of time on the most obscure offences, it means that he or she cannot terrorize someone else.

Legal resistance is not only a viable defence, but an obligation in the face of collective oppression.

For our community, it is time to put up or shut up. The OQLF cannot flourish unless we blindly obey their every caprice.
Nobody is asking you to take a truncheon in the noggin or face a jail term for resistance, as did many who fought for their human rights.
If we aren't willing to spend a few dollars and expend a little effort we absolutely deserve what we get.

Fight back or shut up, which will it be?


****** UPDATE ********
****** LANGUAGE COPS CAVE UNDER PRESSURE! ******** 
March 3, 2014;
"Quebec’s language police have beaten a hasty retreat in their fight with a Chelsea businesswoman they’d targeted for supposedly violating provincial language laws.“I think I can do what I was doing before,” Eva Cooper, owner of a specialty clothing shop, Delilah (in the Parc), said Monday as she explained that officials with the Office québécois de la langue française — more contemptuously known as the language gendarmes — are no longer insisting her store’s Facebook postings be equally French and English" Link

192 comments:

  1. From Ann
    I agree with you. We are in the mess we are in because the anglo and allophone communities did not collectively stand up to this. However, the media and the big business community should have been better organized to provide support to small businesses. There should have been grassroots organizations within the media and the business community so that small business people did not feel isolated. When you have people backing you it is easier to fight back. Up until now the small business people were feeling isolated, there was no media and no umbrella organization to guide them and encourage them. In order to fight the OQLF it has to be done en masse with everyone supporting each other, not in isolation where the person feels like they are all alone in the battle. The real problem is that the business community did not mobilize and form a collective group so that individual businesses did not feel all alone fighting the scary OQLF.

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    1. Bingo, Ann! This has been the crux of my whole argument all along! I became willing to let everybody in Quebec take the hit, including the victimized minorities because the victimized minorities have not been getting together to fight this thing the way the students wore their little red squares and fight away the already ridiculously low tuitions that Quebec students enjoy.

      It's almost like Battered Spouse Syndrome. Eventually everybody looks the other way when they see the spouse with cuts and bruises because the victimized spouse does nothing about it, and some eventually come to the conclusion the punishment is deserved. It's not, but it is seen as the new norm.

      My views remain unchanged and in fact this

      I've written before and here I go again: The limits are endlessly being tested, and if they continue to go untested, we're already seeing Muslim women being verbally victimized, so eventually they will be physically abused as well. Vandalism has always been a problem and it will only worsen. I eventually see a Krystallnacht scenario if things are left unchecked. This separatist government does nothing to counteract this overt racism, in fact they encourage it, so what is to stop anything from devolving into the horrible events of 75 years ago?

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    2. Correction: The limits are endlessly being tested, and if they continue to go uncontested,...(not untested).

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  2. You make an excellent point, Editor. The OQLF chases down those who don't have the resources to fight back, but turns tail at the sight of a multinational corporation that can stand up for itself. Typical bully behaviour.
    While I don't own a business in Quebec, and therefore have no skin in the game, I hope more merchants will use all legal means to fight back against the OQLF inspectors -- including outright refusal to obey these wackos, and forcing language cops to go to court to pursue their cases. Imagine if everyone who received a notice from the OQLF contested it; the ensuing chaos would be worth a few laughs -- especially once the legal farce was reported across Canada and around the world.
    Going to court might also provide an avenue to reveal a complainer's identity. I'd have to consult the federal Charter of Rights and Freedoms, or an actual lawyer, but doesn't an accused in Canada has the right to know who his or her accuser is? Once that's revealed in open court, it's public information -- and I'll bet many of these "complaints" are the work of a tiny handful of twisted language vigilantes.
    Appeasement doesn't work with bullies like the language cops and their PQ -- and, yes, Liberal -- government bosses. Anglos who'd talk in past years about a "language consensus" were only fooling themselves; Quebec's anglos are considered targets, not assets, by too many francophones -- and it appears anglos and allos are starting to realize that. Good.
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/half-of-quebecers-feel-the-pq-doesn-t-want-non-francophones-to-stay-1.2556465

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  3. One more thing: Civil liberties groups in the U.S. collect money to bankroll court challenges on behalf of aggrieved minorities. The NAACP, for instance, developed its Legal Defence and Educational Fund. I have always wondered why there can't be a similar fund in Quebec that would help out small shopkeepers who want to oppose a language law "infraction" but can't afford to. I'd definitely throw a few dollars into that.

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    1. Their is. Mr. Harper, before being Prime Minister, was president of the National Citizen Coalition, a Toronto-based conservative group. http://www.ipolitics.ca/2011/02/07/mps-call-on-stephen-harper-to-clarify-stand-on-bill-101/

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  4. So, 50 years ago the majority of people in the province of Quebec felt the need for a change and the minority agreed (or as you say, shut up and didn't fight back). Well, it was the era of "liberation movements" around the world and many people were sincerely trying to do the right thing. 50 years ago it was possible to live in Quebec entirely in English, as my mother who came from Nova Scotia to work in munitions factories during WWII did. But today no one would expect to live in Quebec without knowing French.

    Wasn't that the idea? Hasn't it happened?

    So what's the right thing to do today?

    - Jay

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    1. Jay, il est vrai que pour bien des Anglos de vieille souche il peut être déroutant de se faire reprocher d'être anglo après avoir fait tant d'efforts pour davantage respecter le fait français au Québec. Effectivement, un grand nombre parlent le français, un certain nombre envoient leurs enfants à l'école française et s'intéressent à la culture québécoise, et d'autres encore choisissent de s'assimiler. Globalement il s'agit d'une avancée comparée à il y a 50 ans.

      À mon avis l'une des sources du problème actuel vient plutôt du fait que bien des immigrants anglicisés arrivés plus ou moins récemment au Québec se comportent comme des Anglos d'il y a 50 ans. C'est-à-dire qu'ils ont pris l'attitude méprisante que les Anglos de vieille souche ont eue pendant 200 ans.

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    2. Effectivement,ils débarquent chez nous déjà "brainwashés".

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    3.   Contempt? No. Contempt is the way France treated Algeria. Contempt is the way African-Americans were treated. We had Two Solitudes, to be sure, but not contempt.
        When minority rights were fought for all over the world the first thing that had to happen was laws had to be struck down. In the USA many segregation laws - in many states extending to making it illegal for blacks and whites to marry each other - had to be struck down.
        But a single Canadian law had to be struck down for Quebec to achieve change.
        This is why Anglos (and even the term is offensive, robbing us of our Scottish and Irish heritage - we fought our battles with the English, too) have always felt we were the wrong target. We were witnesses to history, not players.
        People have always had a hard time getting along but in the world at that time Canada was not contemptuous the way most of the world was. Canada had French prime ministers, Quebec had French premieres, Montreal had French mayors (for a while Montreal alternated between French and English mayors but that stopped a long time ago). Alabama did not have an African-American governor. Birmingham did not have an African-American mayor. At that time, while the prime minister of Canada was French, the idea of an African-American president of the United States was as crazy as the idea of a Quebec premiere wearing a turban is now (okay, that was mostly a joke).
        Now, here’s my question - if Quebec becomes its own country will it strike down the laws that restrict minorities the way the United States struck down its laws that restricted minorities?
        Because that might actually get the Anglos on board for separation... ;).
        - Jay

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    4. :) Can't edit these comments... Should be:

      Not a single Canadian law had to be struck down...

      (sheesh, kind of takes away from the point when it has to be edited.... ;)

      - Jay

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    5. @Jay

      Had their intentions been honorable all along, don't you think they would have come up with this solution long ago? This is about pettiness, vindictiveness, spite, all ignited by bigotry, racism and discrimination. Destructive elements further fueled by the-powers-that-be in this province. For Pete's sake, they blatantly admit to still sulking over a bruised ego, the huge contributor to their lack of self-esteem, as a people. They are ill, do you understand, ILL? There is no amount of logic, rationality or reason to cure and heal them. This complex of inferiority is 200 yrs old. The worst manifestation, (because they've allowed to rule the roost for a few decades), has been the past 40 yrs. Time does not heal all wounds in their case.Time is about memory, and holding on to old grudges to exact vengeance. It also does not help that the lowly populace, (the seppies for the most part), are further sabotaged by the ruling elite, who go to power, not to look after public interest, and oversee the urgent issues at hand, healthcare, the seriously lagging economy etc, but rather manipulate themselves into positions of power and fabricate issues in order to sway and distract citizens so that THET (old guard) can borrow time and coast to retirement.

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    6. We all know that tired line, "Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it," but the real irony is that even those who do know history are doomed to repeat it....

      I think the big problem is the division of "us" and "them." Because you are right, there is a ruling elite (very mixed) that benefit from a divided people. I said it before, in the US it was race, in the UK it's class and in Quebec it's language.

      I know that for myself in the Irish working-class we felt abandoned in the 1970s and 80s. The English money left Quebec (all those head offices) but we were not a part of the "new Quebec" that emerged. We always felt the people Quebec should have been mad at were gone but we were the ones being punished.

      Now, I guess, it's immigrants.

      None of this should be causing the anger that's still here. The world is multi-cultural, and better for it. It's really time for Quebec to move to the next stage of maturity and accept the Anglos who are left the way Toronto accepts the Chinese - let them put up whatever signs they want on their businesses.

      - Jay

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    7. FROM ED
      Geez ANONYMOUS have you ever nailed it. You're also right about those who know history are doomed to repeat it. This was proved by three great leaders thinking they could drive an army through the Alps to attack Russia even knowing about the previous failures. Hannibal, Napoleon and Hitler all made the same mistake,
      Yes, there was no contempt. in spite of what Ann says, ( who wasn't there) anglos all lived worked and played in English, even in the seventies when the laws were actually enacted. At that time there was no one living on the street nor need for soup kitchens. We were law abiding anglophones who understood the predominance of French gave them the DEMOCRATIC RIGHT TO WHAT THEY WERE ASKING. There was nothing to demonstrate against nor any need to. Bill 1012 was livable. Jean Charest tolerated the OQLF and put the right person in charge. Under him there was no harassment or threats so we ignored the agency. There was nothing back then Ann. It began in September 2012 and what have you been doing about it since then. I'm tired of people saying that what happened 18 months ago should have been stopped by us back when our problems were Vietnam and Bob Dylan informing the World, it is a changin'.

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    8. Ed - You are replying to Jay - his name is at the bottom of his post.

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    9. @cutie003

      no ed is replying to himself i'm afraid. our mate is pretty much alone in his referential now.

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    10. No, I'm a different person. I'm the one who tried to explain to you that "mate" is English and most of the UK Anglos in Montreal are Scots-Irish. You don't seem very interested, though. Too bad, Montreal's history is very interesting, understanding it might even lessen the anger here, if you're interested in that.

      - Jay

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    11. @jay

      that's ironic. you're fighting against oqlf because you pretend it shouldn't intervene in what people can write on their shop walls and then you do exactly this with me. will you let me write mate if i fancy it mate? thanks mate.

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    12. Do you see the difference between a conversation and "shop" walls? And I never asked you not to write it, I just thought you would like to know that the idiom is incorrect for Montreal. I see that on this page you often get the kinds of arguments and responses you seem to want, but overall you're fighting with the wrong people. I don't understand why you always want to fight with your neighbors, it really doesn't make Quebec a better place.

      - Jay

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    13. FROM ED
      Sorry Jay, my old eyes miss a lot. I'm used to seeing the poster at the beginning. You have a keen mind that can analyze a situation accurately. We know that two years ago we felt comfortable and protected by the Liberal government. Suddenly false rumors were being spread about them and we (the english) generally chose to believe them. The English press made it easy to believe by publishing them as if they were fact. We know now that the liberals were simply a good government. Even now some here keep speaking as if the shit was true.
      We have to see the Libs as the only way out of the PQ mess. we have to watch for tricks like Marois did sending the Police to Charest's house at 6am to make it look like he was under investigation. We must win this election. Ed

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    14. Help me lord! Brain-Dead Ed, after expressing his disappointment with Philippe Couillard M.D. in the last post, is again turning to his fallen idol to save the day.

      If the PLQ is the lesser of two evils, you're still dealing with evil!

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    15. @jay

      "...I just thought you would like to know that the idiom is incorrect for Montreal."

      but isn't this the internet mate? why do you confine yourself to such a local boundary? you need to open up and look beyond montreal, like the quebec separatists do.

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    16. Okay, sure.... ;)

      - Jay

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  5. Je trouve que les anglos parlent beaucoup trop fort dans nos espaces publics.Va falloir trouver un moyen afin d'abaisser le volume de quelques Db.

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  6. By AnecTOTE

    Well finally...this has been MY beef all along, language laws and charter bills as the infringement of Rights and Freedoms. This is where the battle has to be fought and won. We are either a society that upholds civil liberties or we are not. If the OQLF wants to play this game, then they have to be made accountable for UNFAIR play. The OQLF would fall flat on its face in court, especially when the case is made and proven that it "selectively" and "subjectively" enforces quebec Language laws when dealing with small commercial establishments. Furthermore, the fact that it does so (and a huge case can be made for it) MAKES THEM, as an agency... illegitimate. We already know this, but those affected should consider Legal recourse. A small business store owner who has been unjustly targeted and has been caused unnecessary emotional and financial hardship should consider seeking compensation for bias targeting.

    Effective immediately, small business here need a support network, a place they can go to in order to come together so they can fight together, and this needs to happen NOW.

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    1. Investissez plutôt votre argent dans une meilleure maîtrise du français,ce sera déjà un atout supplémentaire pour votre commerce.Cette pauvre femme ne sera pas la première à se casser les dents sur nos lois.

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    2. By AnecTOTE

      What do you have in that tiny little head of yours s.r? People in quebec are by and large bilingual, do you think people insist on NOT learning the French Language in 2014, on purpose? And for the few who may not have mastered it completely, do you think it is to flagrantly and unabashedly spite you? Did it ever occur to you that they probably haven't been able to? The French language is a difficult one to pick up even FOR YOU PEOPLE, who are born into it. We've seen this and experienced this. French Canadians who a lot of the time can't speak it correctly since they speak joual, not to mention that writing it for some, is also an obstacle.

      BUT, you guys don't know when to leave well enough alone. Just like the bitch who had nothing better to do than interfere in a private conversation I was having with my daughter two years ago at a shopping center, telling us to speak French. Nope she couldn't leave well enough alone, she had to mind somebody else's business. Well guess what? She screwed with the wrong broad that day. On the upside, it has made me realize we have an exacerbated problem of subjugated Rights in this province when initially it had never even occurred to me. It also made me realize something needs to be done about it. I was born and raised here and I am worth just as much as you, MAYBE MORE ..BECAUSE I'M A MINORITY, get it? There are Laws to uphold my Rights and Freedoms and I will own them...IN SPITE of you. DEAL WITH IT.

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    3. "MAYBE MORE ..BECAUSE I'M A MINORITY"

      Les anglos ne représentent pas une minorité,petite tête.

      Encore une fois : 365 000 000 vs 6.5 M

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    4. In this province they do....and when I'm not an Anglo, I'm an Allo..capisce? Now stop hiding behind semantics, cause babes, I can do wheelies around you.

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    5. "semantics" ?

      Non,mathématique.

      Vous pouvez faire les "wheelies' que vous voulez mais vous ne changerez pas ces chiffres.

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    6. "Encore une fois : 365 000 000 vs 6.5 M."

      Why do you draw the lines there? Why not include the whole world?

      - Jay

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    7. “Why do you draw the lines there? Why not include the whole world?”

      Haha! BANG!

      - Ho! Ho!

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    8. @jay

      This is Quebec's argument for their oppressive laws and treatment of undesirables. Just look at how their racist leaders spew nonsense on a daily basis, questioned about it then play the victim. I have respect for English people(nations) due to their ability to provide good governance to its people. I cannot say this about any of the French nations or I would be lying.

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    9. By AnecTOTE

      By his Logic, (s.r.), they claim the quebec territory because THEY are a minority in Canada. Well WE, Anglos and Allos are a minority within quebec, WE claim Montreal? Seems fair to me.

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    10. "Anglos and Allos are a minority within quebec"

      Vous êtes actuellement au pire endroit au pire moment,certains le comprennent et font leur bagage,les autres vont se plaindre le reste de leur vie...Tant pis.

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    11. One more time: “Why do you draw the lines there? Why not include the whole world?”

      - Ho! Ho!

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    12. "Vous êtes actuellement au pire endroit au pire moment,certains le comprennent et font leur bagage,les autres vont se plaindre le reste de leur vie...Tant pis."

      Why is the idea of making this place better for everyone not even considered? We don't live in a zero-sum world. There is no good in telling people to leave the place where they were born. Our goal should always be to make the world better for everyone.

      - Jay

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    13. By AnecTOTE

      Well, now by THAT logic, same would apply to you, you've been complaining FOR 200 YEARS. Imagine if the ROC were to say to you: "Pack YOUR bags and go back to France", AND MEANT IT, the way you do, to your minorities. Too bad?

      Ps...tell popo and company, to spare us the hypocrisy of telling us we are all included. You, her envoy, obviously speak for what is at the depth of her Party's essence. You are the embodiment of Racism, sinful and impure. That is who the 'Separatist' class is. I hope they never make you forget it.

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    14. Canadians would never tell someone to pack up and leave, it's just not in their nature, but they do now think of Quebec as separate from Canada - a nice place to visit. I work in the TV business and sometimes I suggest a show set in English Montreal but there's never any interest.

      There is an English version of "19-2" but it's set in some parallel universe where there are only French (it would have been easy enough to make the character from "Morin Heights" actually be an Anglo who speaks French but it was decided it's just easier to avoid the whole "thing"). I guess it's the world some people want. Or already have and just don't realize it....

      - Jay

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    15. By AnecTOTE

      "Vous êtes actuellement au pire endroit au pire moment..."

      The worst place at the worst time is usually the best place and best time to make History!

      You guys should get it in writing from your fearless leader, that if she gets elected with a majority government at the next election, she MUST call a referendum within the year. No waiting for winning conditions, you don't get to have your cake and eat it too. You'll have to deal with the challenges, time to pick yourselves up by the bootstraps, inferior complex or not, and face the music. It is what you want after all, no more crying wolf, time you face the wolf, savvy?

      And finally, this way, the quicker we have this referendum, and you guys win (three times a charm, lol) the quicker we can start tearing this crummy province apart piece by piece, so we can ALL get on with our lives.

      WE get Montreal city-state!

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    16. Vous n'avez rien ToTo,vous êtes les sacrifiés du canada,des résidus de l'éternelle guerre linguistique qui règne en ce faux pays depuis près de 2 siècles.Des anglos-canadiens-mi-francophone-allophones-mi-Québécois-Montréalais...Une espèce étrange quoi.Vous n'avez rien car vous n'avez aucun pouvoir sur ce territoire.

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    17. Aucun pouvoir...Sauf celui de voter pour le moins pire (en apparence) des partis pour vous.

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    18. @montréal ville-état

      "No waiting for winning conditions,..."

      why not? why would anyone call a referendum without it being the people's will? that's a strange proposal mate. if you want to accelerate things become a pq militant.

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    19. "... le moins pire (en apparence) des partis pour vous."

      A 21st century democracy should be able to have better choices. It should desire better choices, for everyone.

      - Jay

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    20. Créez-le ce nouveau parti Jay,certains ont déjà presque réussi mais ce fût un échec après quelques années d'existence.

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    21. If we had coalition governments instead of minority governments it might work - but I still wouldn't want political parties based on linguistic lines, I want them based on politics. If we could get past language we could deal with the actual political issues.

      It would mean we would have to recognize that people who live on either side of a duplex in Montreal, no matter what language they speak at home, have the same issues - which neither of them share with people on a farm in Saskatchewan - or with millionaires anywhere.

      If a party in Quebec realized that, they might even get the people on both sides of the duplex to vote for them, no matter what language they speak.

      - Jay

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    22. By AnecTOTE

      Ahhh you trying to hurt me again? Lol

      ".....vous n'avez aucun pouvoir sur ce territoire."

      You, have even less!! Two referendums and you couldn't pull it off, you basically held a very expensive "government sanctioned poll" both times. If you hold it a third time, get it done already, (yawn)

      Here let me help you out, ..'Clear' question has to lead to 'Clear' majority, got it? none of this 50 + 1 shit. Now go play on the highway.

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    23. Pas besoin de référendum gagnant pour que vous soyez sous notre juridiction ToTo...Nous ne voulons que votre bien et nous l'aurons :)

      J'adore ce ToTo-Jou-jou !

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    24. Right on AnecTOTE: The GD law is there for a reason you STUPID people. Break the law, and we will break your balls! Got it? We're taking no more of this BS from you commie bums. Go back to your sewer or get a job and a life! We (Canadians) are nice to a point but that point has been reached with you traitorous bums!

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    25. @mtl1973

      this latest from cuie003 right above me here is another good one for you to translate and post on the journal de montreal blogs mate. i'm sure separatists over there could use cutie003's "ideas" to better comprehend that canadians are not that different from them and that the obvious way forward is to stop being stupid commie sewer bums. you had such a great idea the other day. come on do it.

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    26. There are 335 million francophones in the world... stop trying to pretend that the French language is "endangered". Admit it: this is really about race fears... it's about protecting the white privilege of francophones.

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    27. The median income of francophones is about 10% higher than that of anglophones in the province of Quebec, and about 34% higher than that of visible minorities. You've become the master race of the province: congratulations. How about showing a bit of magnanimity now?

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    28. @montréal ville-état

      "...small business here need a support network, a place they can go to in order to come together so they can fight together..."

      they need support... to carry on not considering francophones when conducting business in quebec? that's crazy. a disrespect support group. only you can think of such crap.

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    29. @montréal ville-état

      oops sorry i take that back. durham could have thought of it too.

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  7. Y'a pas si longtemps ils étaient des ennemis jurés et depuis hier,ils partagent des bouteilles de Chardonnay...

    Gaétan Barrette officiellement candidat du PLQ dans La Pinière

    http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/politique/politique-quebecoise/201403/03/01-4744125-gaetan-barrette-officiellement-candidat-du-plq-dans-la-piniere.php

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  8. Here here! But seriously, all this is easier said than done. This only works if everyone sticks together. What/who will be our glue?

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  9. Well, this will go no where until the Language Police (OQLF) enforce their laws against other agencies of the government such as the Quebec casinos who flagrantly violate the laws with their own slot machines. The Quebec Government also approves of Bombardier and other large companies in Quebec with dispensations to allow the English Language. Simply put, no private business or small retailer should pay any attention to the laws as for the most part they , as the editor has indicated, are not applied universally. So, as they are not applied universally, the laws have statutes have no credibility. Likely the best way to oppose this inequality in the application of the language laws is through social media. As a side note I wonder what the premium would be to have gaming machines equipped with a French interface. I suspect that International Gaming Machines and other manufacturers of slot machines would charge a fairly high premium for such a small market in NA as Quebec. An this is the reason the government does not enforce their own laws as it would cost them money.

    How do you think most people would react to a law that is not applied universally. (What, you get a speeding ticket with an Ontario plate but not with a Quebec plate?)

    Until the OQLF applies the law across the board to government, and private enterprise equally then the laws should be ignored as in reality they are not legitimate. I am sure that social media would agree. You cannot have it both ways.






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    1. "So, as they are not applied universally, the laws have statutes have no credibility. Likely the best way to oppose this inequality..."

      ...is to fill out a complaint if you run accross a situation where bill 101 is not respected.

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    2. You mean like the Casinos who fail to comply with the law. Feel free to fill out a complaint and send it in as I suggested in a subsequent post. . After all, you don't want your Government operated entities to not follow the laws, do you??

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    3. @westerner

      up to you mate. you're the one who would prefer the law to be applied universally. remember?

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  10. Here is an idea which might be fun.

    Everyone on this site ( and a resident of Quebec) who opposes the OQLF and the draconian language laws should attend a casino for a brief visit. Then, all file a complaint with the OQLF regarding the flagrant abuse of the language laws by the Quebec Government Casinos. Then, after a period of time, follow with a second, third or fourth inquiry to the OQLF about what corrective action has or had been taken with the OQLF and what compliance was received by the Government Casinos. This should all be documented on social media for everyone to see. Sometimes the best way to get results is to hit them "with a ball of their own shit".

    If the OQLF came back with no action or corrective measures being taken it could be taken as a sign of their complete irrelevance.





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  11. Anonymous Buster of Shit ArgumentsMonday, March 3, 2014 at 4:30:00 PM EST

    So while the PQ is loading up on actresses and artists...the PLQ is (GASP!) loading up on highly-educated professionals who are leaders in their fields: http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/politique/politique-quebecoise/201403/03/01-4744260-leconomiste-de-haut-niveau-carlos-leitao-au-plq.php

    God! Why can't they just convince "B" and "C" rate actors to join their team instead of these geeks? So what if they've spent their entire lives studying and working with things like the economy and the health sector and international trade...that's soooooo boring.

    Why can't we have our own PLQ candidates who spend their lives drinking and appearing in commercials everyone forgets 10 seconds after watching? They're so much more fun to play pool with at a St.Michel bar.

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  12. A media consortium (CBC, CTV, Global, CJAD, The Gazette) has requested a live, televised, four leader debate in English. Does Marois have the courage to agree to it?

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    1. why would she do it? don't quebec anglophones understand french?

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    2. She could do it to show her respect for an important minority in the province. Oh, sorry, my mistake: she doesn't have any respect for minorities.

      Seriously, white francophones are the Afrikaners of North America... anything to preserve their precious culture, even if it means limiting the rights of minorities.

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  13. «Ensemble, on s'occupe des vraies affaires», scanderont les libéraux

    http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/politique/politique-quebecoise/201403/03/01-4744286-ensemble-on-soccupe-des-vraies-affaires-scanderont-les-liberaux.php

    Quelle bande de cons..."les vraies affaires"...Haha!

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    1. they are aiming for the imbecile vote once again.

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    2. But student and Press 9 are playing 'hard to get'.

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  14. "Une véritable catastrophe s'abattra sur le Québec si jamais la CAQ prend le pouvoir...Ce sera encore pire si le Dr.Gaëtan Barrette,se joint à eux pour devenir ministre de la santé." - Yves Bolduc

    "Le parti libérale,c'est la parti de la passivité.C'est pas compliqué :On fait rien et ça va s'arranger tout seul." - Dr.Gaëtan Barrette

    "En politique,une absurdité n'est pas un obstacle." - Napoléon Bonaparte

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    1. By AnecTOTE

      Napoleon? Really?? One word, starts with "W" and rhymes with Toorooloo, lol

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    2. Désolé de ne pas avoir choisi un Américain comme référence.

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  15. It didn't take long for the OQLF to back down from their latest gaffe:

    http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/quebec-language-police-won-t-fine-store-owner-for-facebook-page-1.1712467

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    1. "On Monday, Cooper told CTV Ottawa that officials withdrew the threat of a fine on a promise that all posts to the store’s Facebook page be both in both English and French."

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    2. Anonymous Buster of Shit ArgumentsMonday, March 3, 2014 at 8:10:00 PM EST

      Unacceptable.

      The OQLF has overs-tepped it's bounds severely in the past 18 months, but this latest gaffe only goes to prove that if (and a BIG if at that) the French languages deserves to survive, it won't do so with these tactics.

      Second, if the OQLF has any issue with Quebec retailers posting on Facebook, they will have to take it up with Facebook HQ in California USA - meaning that they're stepped out of their jurisdiction.

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    3. By AnecTOTE

      @Everyone

      Keep splashing this all over FB and twitter and let it go viral again, nothing drives quebec nationalist more crazy and insane than when they are embarrassed in front of the entire world. Get that spotlight and shine it brightly!

      No more flying under the radar with Human Rights violations. Time for everyone to learn what's going on here.

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    4. She hasn’t agreed to their conditions yet, telling them to spell out what they want in a letter. She is perfectly ready to stand up to the OQLF overstepping its mandate by making threats to tiny businesses.

      The OQLF would preposterously try to outlaw tweeting in English if it could.

      Kevin O’Leary said it on TLMEP Sunday night… Quebec has lost its way.

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    5. "Quebec has lost its way"

      Venant de quelqu'un qu a fait de l'argent le but unique de son existence...C'est plutôt étrange,non?

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    6. Her Facebook page has gone from under 600 to over 10,000 “likes”.

      GLOBE EDITORIAL: Quebec goes from 'Pastagate' to 'Livre du visage'
      The Globe and Mail, Monday, March 3, 2014

      Two weeks ago, the Facebook page for Delilah {in the Parc}, a women’s clothing boutique with locations in Ottawa and Chelsea, Que., had fewer than 600 likes. As of Monday afternoon, it had 10,110; by the end of this week, that number may well have doubled. This remarkable surge in popularity comes courtesy of the Office québécois de la langue française, Quebec’s Inspector Clouseau-esque language police, which has ordered the store’s owner to translate her posts on Facebook into French, or face legal action. No one can say Quebec’s bureaucracy doesn’t know how to promote small business.

      The boutique’s owner, Eva Cooper, has been gracious about the OQLF’s latest gaffe. She says she respects the right of Quebeckers to defend the French language. She points out that both her stores are staffed with bilingual employees, and that in her Chelsea store she obeys Quebec’s language laws about signage and commercial flyers. But she wonders whether the language police have jurisdiction over social media. Excellent question.

      We don’t think they do. Social media, whether in the hands of a private individual or a large corporation, is about having a conversation. Twitter and Facebook may be trying to sell ads and promote commercial interests around all the exchanges that take place on their servers, but the exchanges themselves are what matter. These fleeting thoughts and opinions are not the same as advertising. A boutique owner like Ms. Cooper can post “Happy Friday!” or “Painting and cleaning ..... we are busy so we can unpack the Spring 2014 clothing” on her Facebook page in as many or as few languages as she chooses.

      The OQLF will challenge that, obviously, and will come across as out-of-touch and heavy-handed in doing so. It will also demonstrate that the Parti Québécois government of Pauline Marois has a short memory. The PQ was badly embarrassed in February 2013 when a language inspector went after an Italian restaurant in Montreal for using words like “pasta” and “calamari” on the French version of its menu. The head of the OQLF was forced to resign, and the government vowed to be more discriminating about the complaints it let the OQLF investigate. But we’re likely heading into an election, so linguistic provocation is back on the menu.

      Plus ça change... The Pastagate story, by the way, first broke on Twitter and Facebook.

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    7. hehe. Right - She will agree - lol and again lol. A "debate" in English? She couldn't even do it in a mirror! Stupid, trouble causing miscreant!

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    8. Can Eva Cooper say that is to expensive for her to translate in french? Will the government pay money to translate her page?

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    9. @ Press 9/S.R,

      "Venant de quelqu'un qu a fait de l'argent le but unique de son existence...C'est plutôt étrange,non?"

      At least Kevin O'Leary works, employs people and contributes to society. YOU, on the other hand, are a useless, welfare dependent, unemployed bum who spends all day, everyday trolling the web and posting drivel. Do you ever detach yourself from the internet long enough to wash and shave? You probably have a beard as long as Rip Van Winkle, LOL!

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    10. Please, everybody, stop addressing the trolls!

      So here we are...another chapter of the language gestapo backing down after being made out to be the jackasses they genuinely are. Matzogate, Pastagate and now Facebookgate. NEXT! SUIVANT!

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    11. By AnecTOTE

      @Mr. Sauga,

      I know it drives you crazy when we engage, but please understand, and I have mentioned this a few hundred times before, trolls will not go away, regardless of the fact that we would do as you suggest and collectively ignore them, they will not go away because these are not ordinary trolls who troll frivolously, these trolls have been mandated to defend the 'quebec' brand, and yes I am repeating this too, they do not troll for our benefit, they troll to influence those beyond the quebec boundaries. So if they insist on hanging around, and EDITOR will not censure them, then they have to be prepared to run a huge risk that the legitimate contributors .... steal 2nd and score a home run, savvy? THAT'S the whole difference.

      Never engage them gratuitously, but if you can steal their bouncy ball to make your point, you've rendered them obsolete and YOU've influenced those beyond this border. WIN WIN. THEREFORE every time said trolls reach for their keyboards, they must do so with the awareness that they'll provide an opportunity for us to peal away the camouflage layers of the quebec brand, and if that is the price THEIR Masters are willing to pay, well as Me Sandy McTire says, (with small edit) "keep on trolling in the free world"

      We good Mr. S? Great!! Always a pleasure (wink)

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  16. Almost half of all Quebecers believe the PQ is “actively trying to discourage non-francophones from remaining in Quebec”. That goes up to 78% of allophones and 81% of anglophones.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/philippe-couillard-says-parti-qu%C3%A9b%C3%A9cois-indifferent-about-anglos-1.2556465

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    1. Back in the real world we label that DISCRIMINATION.

      Worse government sponsored discrimination.

      Even when shown logic it bounces off PQ members.

      Artists, clowns and criminals. These are the PQ best thinkers.

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    2. By AnecTOTE

      Thanks R.S I just watched the clip of TLMEP with Kevin O....too bad he doesn't speak French, he would have hit it outa the park. "Vote for the party that speaks JOBS, if a party talks about something other than jobs, vote for the other Party!"

      Priceless!

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    3. "clowns and criminals"

      Hé! C'est Rob Ford

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    4. Hear how one anglophone Montrealer feels about the current political climate:

      http://instagram.com/p/lGUqKAMN2E/

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    5. @r.s

      hey she feels pretty bad. it's a shame the video cut before she explained why. what could it be r.s, any idea?? or maybe it cut because emptiness followed and it would have dampened the negativity seeked by your masters?

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    6. clowns and criminals

      Hé! C'est Daniel Breton!

      Look, I can play that game, too!

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  17. L'appui à la charte est maintenant majoritaire

    http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/dossiers/charte-de-la-laicite/201403/03/01-4744020-lappui-a-la-charte-est-maintenant-majoritaire.php

    Et ça ne cesse de monter,monter,monter... :)

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    1. So much for the PQ “bringing Quebecers together”!

      The CROP poll for La Presse said 51 percent of survey respondents are in favour of the Charter. […] That doesn’t translate to votes for the PQ, according to the report. Of the total respondents, some 57 percent admit they plan on voting for the CAQ.

      http://www.cjad.com/cjad-news/2014/03/03/majority-support-charter-of-values

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    2. @r.s

      it will bring people together in the long term. right now many religious bigots, emotive angryphones and quebec solidaire are reacting negatively, but in ten years this bill will seem like the most natural thing to have, just like bill 101. religious outfits when presiding a trial? when fighting with students? wtf?

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    3. @student

      What about the faggyphones?

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    4. @robbie ford

      dunno mate. do they agree religious outfits don't fit with government jobs? or do they think showing off your favourite superstition at all times is of the utmost fundamental importance?

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    5. Wow, a majority of Quebecers support a racist, discriminatory law! Something to be proud of!

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    6. By AnecTOTE

      "dunno mate. do they agree religious outfits don't fit with government jobs? or do they think showing off your favourite superstition at all times is of the utmost fundamental importance?"

      You show off your superstition by hanging the Jesus cross in the National Assembly in quebec city, and refuse to remove it with the bullshit argument about heritage.

      You are a bunch of Hypocrites, phony to the core, disingenuous and you are Racists, plain and simple. It's only the Truth. You have nothing to impart to anyone and people see you for exactly what you are. For this reason they don't respect you. You command no respect. You may not give a crap about that, but you will when they stop giving you their money too.

      Stop selling garbage, your "quebec" brand has begun emitting an extremely foul odor.

      Now run along now, and tell YOUR Masters that.

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    7. @anon

      Religion it's not a race. Religion have nothing to do with "racism", poor ignorant.

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    8. Tu as raison anonymous,certain(e)s ont de la difficulté à l'admettre et préfèrent faire des amalgames pour servir "leur obscure cause".

      Cependant tu devrais utiliser un pseudo si tu as d'autres excellents commentaires.

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  18. Multi-culture works:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/02/travel/torontos-ethnic-buffet.html?_r=0

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    1. Mais avec le globish comme langue commune...Évidemment.

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    2. By AnecTOTE

      You appear erratic s.r., you worried? Lol. It's gonna be a bumpy ride, lol, more so for you since you have more to lose.
      Have you gone to play on the highway yet? Lolololololololololo, go, it'll relax you, you look lie you could use it.

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    3. Alors,pour qui allez-vous voter Totty?Choix difficile n'est-ce pas?

      Vous ne vous sentez pas abandonnée?...un peu?

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    4. You'll like this AnecTOTE: Keep it up kiddo - there's a ground swell of support out there.

      http://www.montrealgazette.com/opinion/Letter+Montreal+natural+city+state+potential/9573789/story.html

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    5. By AnecTOTE

      @Cutie

      I've been toying with the idea of quitting my job (which I really really love) to start devoting myself full time to such a campaign. I've been talking to people, many have been pushing me to do it, to get out there and really ramp-up-the-volume, so to speak. Right now, feeling the lay-of-the-land and doing some serious homework.

      Turning Montreal officially into a city-state will be for its own good, AND ultimately, for our own good and as Montrealers. Montrealers must acknowledge that the time has come for THEM to be accountable and to take charge of THEIR Fate vis-à-vis their city.

      REGARDLESS of whether the PQ come to power minority or majority gov, or the Liberals for that matter, Montrealers must be steadfast and persevere with city-state status. We will no longer tolerate being at the mercy of the province of quebec and the National Assembly in Quebec City. We must alter their jurisdiction over us substantially. Whatever Law or Ideology that is counter-productive to Montreal's economic growth, must be radically curtailed and done away with. Montreal has no inferiority complex, She has sustained the ruthless assault on her by various provincial governments that have either done things to spite her or just completely ignored her. This unmitigated abuse notwithstanding, She has managed to flourish in her own way, through bilingualism and multiculturalism for decades now. Even presently, while the PQ has wagered war on Montreal, (the charter is medicine prescribed exclusively for Montreal's benefit, as we have the most multi-ethnic population in the province, and the OQLF has a field day HERE, they don't attack little business in Matane), and are trying everything in their power to banish the special ingredients that make up Montreal's DNA, it is proving to be an arduous task for them.

      Separatists will not succeed in performing a Lobotomy on Montreal, we will fight tooth and nail and there will be no compromise. This will be a fight to restore, first and foremost, Montreal's dignity, ...and to the soft nationalists out there, you know who you are and you know I am right. Time to get a pair!

      @R.S

      I beg your indulgence re: spontaneous monologue, its for a higher purpose! Thank you.

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    6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coPB3GLpx98

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    7. By AnecTOTE

      I got a better one.. to all Montrealers out there:

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk48xRzuNvA

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    8. Stéréotypes à l'américaine sans aucune nuance...Tellement grossier et "anti-intellectuel".

      Genre de merde que les "allos" (particulièrement) semblent avaler sans même réfléchir.

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    9. By AnecTOTE

      Frightened much? Your inferiority complex is showing again. Message wasn't meant for you dearest, no need to get so worked up about it. Lol.

      Now move along, nothing for YOU to see here!!

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    10. "Mais avec le globish comme langue commune...Évidemment."

      I would use the phrase, "with a common default language," and in Montreal it's French. And no one is opposed to that. In New York it's English. In Paris it's French. In Munich it's German. But not exclusively.

      People are opposed to extremes, that's all. The population come from many different backgrounds, as they do in every city in the world. And will continue to.

      Progress has been made. It's not the same world it was 50 years ago. Language laws and the charter are a Maginot Line.

      The fight you are having with other languages in Quebec isn't good for anyone and isn't necessary anymore.

      - Jay

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    11. By AnecTOTE

      I would love to do away with bill 101 in Montreal city-state and then prove to everyone how the French Language still flourishes, how it is still celebrated and how it is first and foremost valued. When bill 101 IS abolished, I will bet there will be a greater effort made by one and all to speak French and preserve it AND it won't even require an effort actually, it will happen on its own, because it is right and we value It here.

      To those who think otherwise, and feel that abolishing 101 will bring about the demise of the French Language in Montreal ville-état, I say to you then, that your 40 tireless years to preserve and uphold it have been in vain. I say to you that although you fight for the preservation of your Identity through Language, you do not have the courage of your convictions. When a tree ascends to maturity, we remove the fasten to the stick that stands alongside. We allow it to spring up further without it that clasp because we trust it can do so and we trust in what we've done, having pointed it in the right direction, and we can rejoice.

      Trust in your convictions and in all that you have done, that we have done. Rejoice! It is time.

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  19. Le Québec "bashing" est une aide non négligeable à la remontée de notre mouvement.

    - Le Parti Québécois

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  20. Montreal Board of Trade criticizes Quebec language police over Facebook crackdown

    Cooper got another boost of support from business heavyweight Michel Leblanc, the president of the Montreal Board of Trade. “If someone wants to use Facebook in English, I think it’s a great possibility, and I don’t see why the government should be involved in that discussion,” Leblanc told Global News. Leblanc went further, suggesting the OQLF should drop the case. “I wouldn’t be surprised if they stepped back a little bit and say they went too far,” he added.

    Montreal mayor Denis Coderre also weighed into the debate Friday morning.
    “We have to be very, very careful in the way we’re applying that kind of legislation,” Coderre said.


    http://globalnews.ca/news/1179989/montreal-board-of-trade-president-criticizes-language-police-over-facebook-crackdown/

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  21. lol - let's see what Miss Piggy says to all this attention:

    http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/politique/politique-quebecoise/201403/03/01-4744288-les-medias-anglophones-veulent-leur-debat.php

    'THIS IS QUEBEC - WE SPEAK ONLY FRENCH' - WTF? Dictator much?

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    1. what's the need for a debate in english when all quebec anglophones understand french?

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    2. You snotty little bitch - do you ever, ever think of anyone but yourselves? Boy, I can't wait till we kick your asses out of this country with the little piece of land that you will be left with! You don't deserve anything but I'm willing to give you about 50 thousand acres of land to park your useless asses until you finally die off.

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    3. Pas seulement le français student,ils sont pour la plupart polyglottes...selon leurs dires.

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    4. "I'm willing to give you about 50 thousand acres of land to park your useless asses until you finally die off."

      Nous ne sommes pas des Indiens peggie.

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    5. By AnecTOTE

      Perhaps you are not aboriginals, wouldn't you like to be tho?
      So that when you say "maître chez nous", it would actually be a legitimate statement.

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    6. Maybe not natives. But a lot of Quebecois are Metis background Note I am not saying that is a bad thing.

      Of course in some parts of Canada they have a slang descriptive for 50/50.





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    7. @montréal ville-état

      "So that when you say "maître chez nous", it would actually be a legitimate statement."

      so are you an indian too? i guess you are if not by your own argument montreal is not chez vous.

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    8. By AnecTOTE

      "so are you an indian too? i guess you are if not by your own argument montreal is not chez vous."

      I never insinuated I was. I will further elaborate because this is an excellent point to make for all concerned, FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL. Go get a pen, and write down what I'm about to tell you, pinstripes.

      If you pay Taxes OF ANY KIND, and/or don't have a little card that exempts you from paying Taxes, you are not now and never will be "maître chez nous". YOU ARE AN IMMIGRANT, just like the rest of us. We are extended the privilege of Canadian citizenship but we are not "masters" here. Someone got here way before you did, and way before I did, or perhaps they were always here. The point of the matter is, and I hate to break this to you because I don't want to contribute further to that sense of inadequacy you suffer from, ( opppss did I say that out loud?) lol, you are an ordinary citizen like all other ordinary citizens, who have to work AND PAY TAXES, no special status for you, get it? Good, now go explain that to your little seppie friends and bring a box of Kleenex.

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    9. "you are an ordinary citizen like all other ordinary citizens"

      Vous me donnez l'impression de quelqu'un qui veut se convaincre lui-même de quelque chose ... Quel est donc ce petit quelque chose ?

      Vous ne seriez pas une "reject" par hasard?

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    10. By AnecTOTE

      I don't suffer from inferiority complexes or inadequacy issues. But that is question YOU should ask yourself, and answer for yourself, for the purposes of therapy.

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    11. "I don't suffer from inferiority complexes (sic)"

      Prouvez-le !

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    12. By AnecTOTE

      This is not about me, but I am flattered that you think it is. Since you asked,

      I ordinate from people who ruled an empire at one time. I derive from generations and generations of people who have educated the world, gifted the world with Art, Music, Literature and History. Still today, my people are revered world-wide, for Fashion, Food, and Class & Elegance. Renown Poets and Scientists from the boot have been awarded the sublime award of excellence: the Nobel Prize like Quasimodo and Pirandello to name a few. Need I go on?

      And your accomplishments are?

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    13. "And your accomplishments are?"

      Vous n'êtes pas canadienne ?

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    14. Vous ne seriez pas la grosse italienne rousse qui crache son venim sur les page FB d'angryphones par hasard?

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    15. By AnecTOTE

      "Vous n'êtes pas canadienne ?

      Absolutely, shall I sing the praises of being Canadian as well? As a Canadian I am proud that Canadians have a great reputation internationally for being do-gooders! Lol. Canadians are celebrated first and foremost for being Peacekeepers, we are always well-received world-wide. If you can imagine, and many probably experienced the same thing, but while trekking through Europe as a student and spending countless nights in youth hostels, I met my share of Americans sporting Canadian Flags on the flap of their knapsacks! AND. We too celebrate Nobel Laureates, the most recent: Alice Munro.

      What has been disappointing however, about being Canadians, is that we've always over indulged Quebec at the cost of the entire country. Hindsight is 20/20, this has been to Canada's detriment. Rather than acting responsibly and confronting a tenable situation long ago, they've chosen to sell out, and sell out people's Rights, trading civil liberties for national unity. That IS THE blemish on Canada's reputation. THAT is what it must live with, until it rectifies it.

      An Individual can be many things and be proud to be many things. Some line me, have dual citizenship, an revel in such an opportunity. Some of us also just consider ourselves ..citizens of the world.

      Diversity enriches us, that is our ultimate accomplishment as Canadians!

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    16. By AnecTOTE

      "Vous ne seriez pas la grosse italienne rousse qui crache son venim sur les page FB d'angryphones par hasard?"

      I have always maintained that The Message must supersede the messenger! There can be no distractions from that and I maintain that through and through. Who I am, or who anyone is... is completely irrelevant. WHAT WE CONVEY is the only thing that is relevant, the only thing you should be paying attention to, savvy?

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    17. Auto-correct sucks, **Originate** is the word in my original post! not 'ordinate' ...apologies, so much we can do with hand-held devices. Thank you.

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    18. Je voulais seulement souligner que les Italiens ne seront pas en compétition pour le prix du Design et de la classe en ce qui vous concerne.

      En passant ,la France soutient financièrement l'Italie (entre autre) depuis le début de l'Union Européenne...Just sayin'

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    19. By AnecTOTE

      Actually Germany sustains them both, and everyone else in the European Union, but why split hairs?

      It always surprises me how, you, franco-quebecers in general are always so prepared to brag about some good deed from France, forever expressing loyalty and praise for a country that abandoned you centuries ago to the evil English and in a sense betrayed you, (after they sent you all here) deeming you were not worth more effort and energy to fight for, and yet YOU, (again franco-quebecers), are always ready to criticize, Canada, who sustains you, in every way possible, indulges your every whim, even throws you a bone declaring you 'nation' no less, bribes and cajoles you, and ultimately protects you under ITS FLAG. all you can manage to do reward it with utter sublime contempt.

      Considering you never forego the opportunity to show Canada such disdain, which is not going away any time soon from you, perhaps Canada ought to rethink its position toward quebec. Maybe less kindness and more ruthlessness will command greater respect from you. Just sayin' lol

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  22. I have a very legitimate question that I've been trying to get an answer to on other sites - and no Separatists seem to want to reply to it -
    Why is it that you completely follow and agree with absolutely everything the PQ stands for - even when they're so blatantly wrong about certain things -
    Anglophones tend to question our leaders - and if we disagree with them - we vocalize that - for some reason a Separatist can not do the same thing - it's like you are physically unable to do so. Surely your sole purpose in life cannot be only to troll English blog sites and just repeat the same nonsense over and over again ( I'm sure you're paid to do so - but still - doesn't it get monotonous ? ) Is there anything at all you disagree with, with the current government? No economical solutions? Lack of leadership concerning infrastucture problems? Declining health care issues? Hotels closing? Dwindling tourism? Is there anything at all that concerns you other than Separation? And if in fact that is your only concern - do you not at the very least worry that there is no plan whatsoever for the future of Quebec? I really am curious - it seems a strange phenomena that every single Separatist agrees with every single thing the PQ does ( and in many cases can't be bothered to do ) You don't set your standards very high if this is as good as it gets with your party? Is this a French thing? Because people all over the world question their governments - constantly -
    except for here..................

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    1. Facts and logic don;t apply to francophone Quebecers from 450.

      You have to be educated and questioning to disagree with your leaders. There are two traits that are missing from Quebec culture.

      The catholic church in the beginning disapproves of questioning and their eduction is second rate indoctrination in propaganda.

      This is why the PQ have such an easy time manipulating the population.

      To them it's like being in chruch and listening to God.

      You can;t "pick and choose" parts of the bible you like in their minds. Neither can you pick and choose what the PQ leaders say.

      There is a reason Quebec is like it is and North Shore Francophones are as backwards as they are.

      Rambo and the FTQ, I'm pointing at you! All you PQ members fucking the rest of the province for your own benefit.

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    2. From Ann,
      I find it mind-boggling as well that the PQ could hand the separatists dog poop on a plate and the separatist followers would act like they were handed diamonds. 4 million dollars is going to be doled out in the form of grants to study Quebec identity...in the meantime 300,000 or so is handed out by Rejean Hebert to simply make people more aware of elderly abuse rather than actually do something about it. I believe Dr, Hebert's research specialty is the elderly. He should know better and have more constructive ideas on how to fix the problem, not just pay lip service to it.

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    3. @ann

      you think quebec identity is dog poop? you just confirmed the legitimacy of the quebec independance movement right there. i'm sure you didn't expect your comment to have such a reach.

      "in the meantime 300,000 or so is handed out by Rejean Hebert to simply make people more aware of elderly abuse rather than actually do something about it."

      you prefer curing than preventing?!? that's odd.

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    4. Sometimes Student I sit here in hysterics reading your comments - you, my dear, are better than a comedy show!!!
      Sad thing is I think most people are laughing at the ridiculous things you come out with - certainly not with you.
      I often share these with my American friends who tell me you should have a reality show - because comedy is in a sorry state these days.
      Keep it up ! The world is watching - and laughing their asses off at you! As an American commented to me recently -
      " are these people educated at all " ? You're not very good at marketing the Quebec brand lol - in fact you make it look even worse than it is which is quite the accomplishment!

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    5. " are these people educated at all "

      Comme si les américains étaient en mesure de nous donner des leçons...Haha!

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    6. A few of them went to Harvard - all of them are University educated - I'm not talking about rednecks lol - but to be quite honest with you - you shouldn't be laughing at Rednecks - at one time we used to call Western Canadians Rednecks - but the Separatists have long since taken over that honor - you do know that right? I hope you realize that's the world view of you guys. And I have friends all over - Europe - Asia - The States - they're all laughing at you - and believe it or not - I - an Anglophone - used to defend you - until it got too ridiculous - now I just laugh with them - because you are quite funny little people ( not worldly at all - you're completely disconnected not just from the rest of Canada but the entire planet - you have to admit that )

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    7. It’s becoming increasingly wearisome to tell when the Energizer bunny’s droppings are simply the result of being an asshat, purposefully twisting the meaning of people’s words, and when it misconstrues things so thoroughly that it sincerely believes that its answers are genuine.

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    8. @ InquiringmindswanttoknowInquiringmindswanttoknowInquiringmindswanttoknow

      "now I just laugh with them"

      Encore un anglo-Québécois avec de profondes convictions :)







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    9. From Ann
      It is the separatist way to twist things around. I have read people's comments in Journal de Montréal and Le Devoir and see that kind of twisted thinking. The economy has worsened under Marois...the separatists say it is all lies to create fear, they then blame the Liberals or Canada. Apparently the transfer payments are a lie as well, according to the separatists Quebec gives more to Canada than it receives. Look a their revisionist history and how they ignore the fact that anglos and minority groups have helped build this province, particularly Montreal. They keep talking about how we are the best treated minority because we have English institutions but don't talk about the bullying OQLF and the laws which are designed to obliterate our freedom to speak English and use English in business. The violation of our rights is ignored since they are not personally affected. They see what they want to see and if they don't like the truth they will simply use excuses and twisted logic. There is an expression that is something to the effect of "When the unreal is taken for real, the real become the unreal"
      That is the separatist mindset...the unreal is taken for real and they convince their followers that the real is unreal.

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  23. FROM THE FRENCH PRESS:
    Interesting article by blogger Jérôme Lussier in L’Actualité magazine today:

    THE DESIRE TO LEAVE QUEBEC
    "I met many Quebecers in New York who had chosen to leave Quebec permanently. In exile, they had found an exit from a Quebec that inevitably appeared to them as being too small, afraid, monochromatic and inbred."
    Jérôme Lussier, March 3, 2014
    http://www.lactualite.com/actualites/politique/lenvie-de-quitter-le-quebec/

    It was a little over ten years ago, in the autumn of 2003, that I left Quebec for New York City. I already knew the place, having previously spent a year there as a student and three months in summer 2002, when people were still recovering from 9/11. The opportunity to return to NYC had appeared unexpectedly in my second year of law school. I hadn’t known that some New York law firms recruited from McGill. To be honest, I had undertook my studies thinking that I would never actually practice as a lawyer, thinking instead that I would return to journalism sooner rather than later.

    But then a golden opportunity to head back to Manhattan for a few years came up. I loved New York. I already had friends there. The professional challenge seemed challenging. The salaries were good and the offers were coveted. I submitted my application and it was accepted, as it also was with 15-odd of my classmates.

    New York is a city of immigrants. Many of its inhabitants are transient, spending a few months or a few years there. Apparently, it’s been like that forever. Students, artists, workers and professionals in all fields plunge into the whirlpool for a while and then come out to do something else or go elsewhere.

    In 2003-04, my roommate in Brooklyn was a guy of Iranian origin, born in London, who had grown up in Vancouver and studied in Montreal. A funny guy, almost ridiculously charismatic, who could fly planes, make furniture and went effortlessly from academia into business law, with a stop in humanitarian aid. He has been working in China for the past five years.

    As a student in 1998-99, my best friend was Nigerian, Muslim, the eldest son of a polygamous family, a great fan of Ryszard Kapuscinski and Fela Kuti. He was of humble origins but among the brightest students in our program. His tuition and lodging were fully borne by the university and the residence. He went back to Nigeria at the end of the year, returned to the United States as a Harvard fellow a few years later (with his wife, who was a Christian and a journalist), and then returned to Africa.

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    1. I also met many Quebecers in New York. Anglos and francos, actuaries, urban planners, bankers, lawyers, journalists, actors... Some of them had chosen to leave Quebec permanently. In exile, they had found an exit from a Quebec that inevitably appeared to them as being too small, afraid, monochromatic and inbred.

      For them, New York was the launching pad for a life that was finally liberated from the siege mentality, a place where talent and ambition could finally flourish without complexes or inhibitions and without a national straightjacket. They planned to live and end their lives elsewhere – be it in New York, London, Toronto, Amsterdam, Geneva or Hong Kong, wherever - as long as they didn’t have to apologize for being bilingual and for dreaming outside the isolation of Quebec.

      This was not my case. I was fine in New York but I had always planned to return to Montreal after a few years. It was where my family and most of my friends were, including some who had lived abroad and had returned to Quebec too. After a few years, the frenzy of Manhattan eventually becomes exhausting. And, I could not imagine having children in New York.

      There were also socio-political reasons, in particular, a still-vague desire to contribute to the advancement of Quebec. Even though I was far away and sometimes found our Belle Province very small and insignificant at times, I didn’t share the no-return policy of my compatriots who were only too happy to have escaped for good. Rightly or wrongly, I felt it would have been irresponsible to leave Quebec without having put my nose the grindstone some more.

      I wasn’t quite clear on the exact nature of this commitment but the goal itself had been becoming clearer for some years. It would involve working with others to build a more confident society, one that is ambitious, open and modern - a Quebec that was finally rid of its monocultural “petit pain”, of its suffocating dumbing-down, of its vengeful nostalgia and its self-congratulating navel-gazing. A Quebec that was freed of its resentment of English and of its distrust of immigrants. A Quebec emancipated from New France, that played the game of America and of globalization. A Quebec that would expand its inhabitants horizons rather than desperately attempt to chain them to a fixed, ever-narrowing "identity" mould.

      I returned to Montreal in 2007 and I haven’t regretted it. Montreal allows one to have a more balanced life, especially for anyone who wants to have children. The social safety nets of Quebec and Canada soften the harshness and extremes of life in the USA. I got back in touch with people I was close to. I lived in a neighbourhood that included Italians, Greeks, Orthodox Jews, francos and anglos. Life was cheaper and had a less hectic pace. I felt more at home.

      The political climate of the time left me rather indifferent, even if one felt that things were moving a little. Lucien Bouchard and the Lucids had published their manifesto two years earlier. The Solidaires had responded two weeks later. The left-right axis was being born in Quebec. The previous autumn had seen the ridiculous reasonable accommodation crisis hatch, which would wind up with the Bouchard-Taylor report, which in turn would wind up being shelved.

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    2. The following years were largely monopolized by the corruption issue. Disinfecting the system – from political funding to the the awarding of public contracts to union intimidation - had become the main priority. The opposition parties all hounded the Charest government about this, with good reason. It wasn’t a very intellectually stimulating challenge, but it was obviously unavoidable.

      Then came the 2012 election, strongly coloured by those fed up with corruption and by the stench of the student strike. The Parti Québécois obtained a minority government.

      Then came Bill 14, which aimed among other things to remove the bilingual status of some municipalities, to extend the restrictions of Bill 101 to small businesses, and to limit bilingualism as much as possible.

      Then came the Charter of Values, which in effect excluded, without any credible justification, visible religious minorities from both the civil service as well as from parapublic service.

      Then came, not surprisingly, a survey showing that half of anglophones and allophones had seriously considered leaving Quebec during the previous year.

      And then the memory of those colleagues and acquaintances who themselves had chosen to leave Quebec, never to return, came back to me.

      I still don’t regret having returned to Montreal seven years ago. But in recent months, on the eve of an election that could see narrow fear and monocultural demagoguery assume a majority, I understand more and more those who have thrown in the towel.

      FROM: http://www.lactualite.com/actualites/politique/lenvie-de-quitter-le-quebec/

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  24. Anonymous Buster of Shit ArgumentsTuesday, March 4, 2014 at 6:52:00 AM EST

    And the hungry-hungry hippo makes it official: http://screencast.com/t/LYuCicf6Wluw

    Separatists really have nothing to say about Dr. Barrette joining the PLQ ranks. When they're picking up their own former enemies, this whole election is going to amount to one hell of a sideshow.

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  25. Anonymous Buster of Shit ArgumentsTuesday, March 4, 2014 at 7:02:00 AM EST

    On Nicolas Girard running in the coming election:

    " Ces listes indiquent que l’ancien député péquiste Nicolas Girard avait été pressenti pour reprendre du service.

    M. Girard a décliné l’offre du PQ, préférant demeurer à la direction de l’Agence métropolitaine de transport.Il a été député de Gouin de 2004 à 2012, avant d’être défait par Françoise David, de Québec solidaire. Le PQ n’a pas encore trouvé de candidat pour affronter Françoise David dans Gouin."

    Hehehe...now why would Nicky give up his $200K/year salary to run for an MNA salary that will only give him only $82K?

    Parce que la souvrainte, c'est pas payant. :-)

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    1. Souvrainte will pay for lots of Franophones.

      With most of the anglo/immigrants gone the francophones will be able to have 100% of contracts and business corrupt and given to friends.

      Finally Accurso and Blanchet can get back in the driving seat together. Their seppie FTQ/PQ/criminal friends will benefit greatly.

      Quebec is just a question of which 450 Francophone is screwing Montreal the most.

      MY MONTREAL DOESN;T INCLUDE QUEBEC.

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  26. Houda-Pepin reste en politique, et attaque le «transfuge» Barrette

    http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/politique/politique-quebecoise/201403/04/01-4744449-houda-pepin-reste-en-politique-et-attaque-le-transfuge-barrette.php

    Rififi chez les "libs".

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    1. barrette said the worst ever things about the other two lpq doctors couillard and bolduc that have tried and failed to improve healthcare services. he now joins them. when put before his own words about them he says it was just normal political bullshit. so what is it now barrette? you've been lying all along but now you're being honest? yeah right. so lame.

      http://tinyurl.com/n3zt469

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    2. Je me demande comment un médecin peut être si gros...Il doit peser dans les 250 kg.

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  27. Pourquoi les "canadians" vivants dans notre métropole sont incapables de se regrouper ?

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    1. By AnecTOTE

      In Sherbrooke? Maybe you should be on another blog addressing that question to the citizens of Sherbrooke.

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  28. Bisbille chez les "libs" (La suite)

    Financement: Couillard réplique aux critiques de Houda-Pepin

    http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/politique/politique-quebecoise/201403/04/01-4744516-financement-couillard-replique-aux-critiques-de-houda-pepin.php

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  29. FROM ED
    Hopefully when the campaign gets into gear polls will encourage the opposition parties to work together and save our homeland. Ed

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    1. Wishful thinking and praying to your fallen idol again, Brain-Dead Ed? As usual, P. Couillard M.D. et al won't fail to disappoint.

      If the PLQ and CAQ are the lesser evils, you're still dealing with evil!

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  30. FROM ED
    I'm trying to remember if sauga has ever said anything kind on this blog. Perhaps something helpful or encouraging to the people stuck jere in te PQ's mess. Oh, that's right he hasn't been able to because he's too busy enjoying it. He's below Une Arse who also is also vicious but is not coveting Quebec's money. Ed

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    1. If assholes could fly, this place would be an airport.

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  31. >>>> If every targeted business would invest a thousand dollars and would committ its time to drag the OQLF in a time-consuming and bitter legal battle, the wheels of the OQLF would fall off.

    I wouldn't bank the college funds on it being only a thousand dollars, and you already know that time (the time you suggest small biz owners commit) is money.
    Many people believe that "you can't fight city hall"; it's drummed into them (for "city hall's" benefit, of course).

    I dig where you are going, so being blunt in an across-the-table sense, trying to offer advice: It's always easy to spend other people's money.
    The idea sure has merit tho.
    There's so much passion and energy idling on this site. You guys could easily come up with a grand AND put in the time (of which many commenters seem to have oodles) to assist a small biz owner do just this.
    I bet you could even handle five.

    Actions. Speaking louder than words, since speaking was invented.

    Just sayin'!

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  32. Ottawa and Quebec co-operate on Job Grant deal. Was that really so hard for everyone to play nice? I'm sure the seppies preferred a fight just because they like conflict with Ottawa.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-job-grant-deal-reached-with-quebec-says-jason-kenney-1.2559653

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    1. well in that case ottawa will give quebec the money for them to do their own thing. if you agree this is a good example of cooperation it's my pleasure to tell you you're a separatist.

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    2. A separatist would not accept the money. Accepting it makes Quebec the same as Nova Scotia and PEI and Saskatchewan.

      - Jay

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    3. @ anon @ 7:17

      guess your are behind the times these days. Saskatchewan is now a have province and has been so for many years. SK contributes to equalization and has one of the lowest debts per capita in Canada. Not like PEI , NS or not Quebec who suck up 60% of all equalization funds in one province. Just a reality check.

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    4. @jay

      that's a highly ridiculous comment mate. they'll stop accepting the federal transfers when they stop sending over half their taxes. this is glaringly obvious to me. isn't it for you too jay?

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    5. No, it's not ridiculous. It might cost a little money, but Quebec should start acting now as it will after separation, that way everyone will see what a success it will be.

      There are some complications, of course, many people in Quebec work for the federal government (in the military, the RCMP, etc., so they receive tax money as well as send it) but any chance Quebec has to opt out of a federal program, it should. Why wait?

      Sorry I put Saskatchewan on the list, that was a mistake. Manitoba is also on the receiving end of transfer payments, the same as Quebec, right?

      - Jay

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    6. Correct on Manitoba...Why...they enjoy the same creative bookkeeping as Quebec on hydro revenues which are conveniently omitted from equalization formulas. If both provinces had to account for market value hydro income their equalization would be substantially less. Manitoba 1.8 billions last year if memory serves me right.



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    7. @jay

      "No, it's not ridiculous. It might cost a little money, but Quebec should start acting now as it will after separation, that way everyone will see what a success it will be."

      of course it's ridiculous. it's not going to be a success if it has to pay double for all current federal programs. are you kidding me?

      "any chance Quebec has to opt out of a federal program, it should. Why wait?"

      that's what they just did with the job grant deal. and that's what the pq is planning to do with many others, foreign aid, employee insurance, healthcare, immigration, etc. they are already on it mate. but quebec refusing money that's owed to quebeckers would be plain stupid.

      "Manitoba is also on the receiving end of transfer payments, the same as Quebec, right?"

      right, and you forgot ontario too.

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    8. @Anonymous

      Good idea, why wait to opt out of all federal programs, they can start that now. Quebec can also pay for a new Champlain Bridge.

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    9. No, not the bridge! One of my retirement plans is to buy a condo on the south shore where I can watch the construction. Hey, some people go on cruises, I like bridges ;). I like the symbolism of them and the engineering and there are great stories behind them. The building of the Brooklyn Bridge is a great story. And it brings me full circle, I was five when the Champlain Bridge opened.

      And Student, don't make it all about the money, you sound like you're from Toronto... ;).

      - Jay

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  33. >>>> Effective immediately, small business here need a support network, a place they can go to in order to come together so they can fight together, and this needs to happen NOW.

    May be a good idea....

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  34. >>>> A 21st century democracy should be able to have better choices. It should desire better choices, for everyone.

    Nice one. I dig it.

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  35. Dear Editor, I'm glad the Delilah on Facebook story has turned out well. It was not a hill to die on, in the first place, but I am struck by the coincidence between the OQLF relenting and the imminent election. The PQ and Minister De Courcy are astute enough to shut down another potential "pastagate" controversy/joke two days before they call an election. This gang is obsessed about getting a majority. The "charter" is another example. It plays well in Herouxville.

    So the cards are about to be dealt. Identity politics will be front and centre in this election. Personally, I don't mind. The PQ have always been about identity and other typical ethno-cultural nationalistic ideas about Quebec. Always the same chorus. So bring it on. If you believe in the basic ideas of democracy as I do you shouldn't worry. It's a long way from calling an election to a new country. This one promises to be a humdinger! Marois ascendant ...Couillard learning on the job with a fractious party...Legault and his party fighting for their political life...the economy in the tank with no obvious way out...women sporting full burquas running government ministries...What! Its complicated, too complicated. But enjoy, we are in for about 30 days of great performance art.

    Vote early, and vote often.

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    1. Vote PQ please...give them a majority...separate, get lost, scram...so long bigots...

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    2. If she and the feds make it clear that partition of federal districts that vote under Clarity Act Rules can remain part of Canada without a problem, I will vote for Miss Piggy in a minute and kiss those separatist areas of quebec goodbye so fast their heads will swim. That is what has to happen to please everyone in this province - 50+1 and we end up in civil war.

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  36. FROM ED
    "The following years were largely monopolized by the corruption issue. Disinfecting the system – from political funding to the the awarding of public contracts to union intimidation - had become the main priority. The opposition parties all hounded the Charest government about this, with good reason. It wasn’t a very intellectually stimulating challenge, but it was obviously unavoidable"
    Let me remind you that at the time other parties were calling for the comminssion, Ducheneau had not released the evidence he was holding. Chharestb remembered how Drapeau broiughtb specialty crime fighters from Scotland yard and France. Both went running home with their tails between their legs within a month after one interview with the pegre.
    Charest standing alone remembered how Drapeau, the most powerful man in Quebec at the time, was surprised to find bomb right inside his foyer. When Charest knew he had the support of a strong man like Ducheneau he took the risk and oreered the enquiery. Ed

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    1. @ann

      could this comment above here by ed be a good example of the syndrome you were discussing about earlier, you know when some weak people, even when shown contrary evidence, still firmly believe that their favourite party can do no wrong?

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  37. http://www.cjad.com/cjad-news/2014/03/05/lise-looses-assistant-chief-of-staff-over-charter


    "Jean-Francois Lisée's assistant chief of staff has quit because of the Quebec Charter of Values.

    Christine Fréchette quit Friday, according to La Presse, because she could not defend the Charter.

    She stayed on the job over the last few months because she was hoping that during the parliamentary commission, the party would tune down the rhetoric. Instead, it is launching an election and hoping for a majority so it can just make the charter .... law.

    Frechette is quoted saying the Charter will be an important part of the campaign and she isn't comfortable defending it."

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    1. By AnecTOTE

      A person connected to the PQ who has ethics and principles WOW, and CAN THINK FOR HERSELF! Did hell freeze over? In any case, we should take a picture and send it to the Smithsonian.

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    2. Yes that is different! Most of them don't know what's right and what's wrong so it is astounding that one of them would stand up for what's right and make it public!

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  38. She is afraid that politics will damages her business in the future.

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    1. By AnecTOTE

      Ah but of course! It is a different era isn't it? Social networking has completely changed the Landscape and made it more of a level playing field for ordinary citizens. For 40 years the Civil Rights violations via Language legislation in la belle province have gone pretty much unnoticed/ignored nationally and internationally, due to the fact that they, for the most part, went unreported in the news. AND when they did make it to mainstream media, it was always massaged, even at an National level, because it would be too embarrassing for the Feds to have the abominations occurring here in quebec exposed to the world. We have ALWAYS sacrificed and traded Rights and Freedoms in this country for national unity...call that your big elephant in the room... of Canada's house.

      Enter the internet and enter social media and boy oh boy, it has turned the entire world on its head, hasn't it. I know I am stating the obvious, but if we take a moment and realize, each of us, the ordinary citizen, who previously had no voice, and no power, and we suddenly do? It is a tsunami of Liberation!,, It's Christmas year-round folks...Carpe diem!

      One has to conclude that one of the great "Lessons-learnt" from the Eva Cooper story is that government needs to take heed, and understand they are officially on notice.

      To all provincial parties ( especially the seppies ), you are no longer under the radar and free to do as you wish, like propagate the subjugation of people's Rights and Freedoms.

      Please note: To those elected to positions of power, less arrogance and more serious and responsible government.
      We''re watching you!!!

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    2. "propagate"

      Le scandale du gaz propane ?

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    3. By AnecTOTE

      Commentaire digne d'un anti-Intelectuel! Lol

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  39. La mosquée de Charkaoui: contre Djemila, pour un terroriste d'al-Qaïda

    Nous assistons depuis quelques jours à une double manoeuvre du jihad civilisationnel visant à promouvoir la charia et à contrer les avancées de la laïcité.

    http://www.postedeveille.ca/2014/03/la-mosquee-de-charkaoui-contre-djemila-pour-un-terroriste-dal-qaida.html

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  40. Les occasions ratées de Philippe Couillard

    http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/politique/politique-quebecoise/201403/05/01-4744711-les-occasions-ratees-de-philippe-couillard.php

    Un début de campagne sur les chapeaux de roue ... Not

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  41. Mr. Sauga Regarding the UPDATEThursday, March 13, 2014 at 10:22:00 AM EDT

    Score one for Our Lady of Chelsea. It's only too bad those OQLF oafs don't do their research before sending out their nutty letters, but like the village idiot who yaps without thinking, they assume said role. Then again, just another example of an overtly racist and ignorant people testing the limits akin to an AD/HD child.

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