Martine Ouellet, smiling us right into the poor house |
Few articles are written about her and her fantastical energy policies in the English media, but they should.
Martine Ouellet represents one of the biggest threats to Quebec prosperity, with ideas and policies so bizarre that it begs the question as to her mental capacity to understand the most basic principles of public policy.
In her brief tenure as Resource Minister she has single-handedly frightened the resource industry into retraction with her pie in the sky idea of reform which would ramp up the tax the industry pays to the government, while increasing environmental costs, this in the face of declining metal prices.
"Preliminary numbers suggest investments in the sector fell to $3.25 billion from $5.13 billion a year earlier, due largely to lower gold prices and softer demand in China and emerging markets.This coupled with an insane electricity policy that produces more electricity than can be sold, with new projects being created every day, producing more electricity at a higher production cost than mothballed facilities shuttered because of a lack of demand.
In October, the agency forecast a drop of at least 10 per cent in 2013 based on surveys of mining companies completed during the summer." Link
It doesn't take a genius to understand that if you run a doughnut shop and are producing more doughnuts than you can possibly sell, you need to limit production, not increase it.
According to Pauline Marois the electricity surplus is an advantage, but how that is, I don't really understand. It's like saying it's good to have cancer because it provides an opportunity to find a cure.
At any rate, electricity doesn't have a shelf life, you either use it or lose it, at least doughnuts can be frozen.
But the economic lessons that the rest of the world lives by, make no sense to Madame Ouellet, who believes that it is important to bake more doughnuts, because it keeps the bakers employed, regardless of the waste.
The frightening thing about Madame Ouellet and I don't say this lightly, is that she's an idiot, plain and simple. She hasn't the brains for the job.
Think I'm being cruel.
Watch this video of her being destroyed by an incredulous Radio-Canada interviewer who is mocking her over her utter misunderstanding of what a loan is, as opposed to a loan guarantee.
Perhaps someone should have explained to Madame Ouellet in terms that she could understand, so here goes.
Imagine your brother asks you to sign for him at the bank for a car loan because his credit is iffy. Because of your guarantee, your brother benefits from a preferred rate and saves on interest payments.
If he pays back the loan as per the agreement, your guarantee costs you exactly nothing....
Capisce, Madame Ouellet?
It's utterly fantastic that a Cabinet Minister can be so badly misinformed and it leads one to imagine where that lack of sophistication takes us.
This is a minister who has said in the past that there can never be a safe way to extract gas through fracking.
It's the type of attitude that has Quebec on the outside of the gas bonanza that has lifted the United States right out of recession and on the course to energy self-sufficiency.
In fact, American success via fracking has left Hydro-Quebec in the lurch, as the cost of electricity produced by gas produced by fracking is much cheaper than what Quebec is selling.
At any rate Martine Ouellet is once again using her prodigious mental acumen to lead us into another fine mess, this time by way of her unwavering support of alternative energy projects like wind power and co-generation, which remains Quebec's biggest boondoggle.
On the eve of the tabling of a report commissioned by the Quebec government itself which recommends shutting down these costly mistakes, our fair minister has already announced that she will ignore the recommendations, because she knows better.
"Over the past ten years, the situation has radically changed. Electricity demand peaked and then decreased both in Quebec and its export markets .
The price of electricity produced in the United States by power plants fueled by shale gas has dropped dramatically. Nevertheless, Quebec has added significant new ways of generating electricity: wind capacity, mini-plants hydro-power, biomass power plants, in addition to new hydroelectric projects
....The Commission is making a series recommendations, including the following;
That consideration be given without delay to suspend investments in the Romaine-3 and Romaine-4, and stop or suspend supply contracts wind in co-generation and small hydro projects not yet built."....
...."The strategy focused on building new projects (hydroelectric or wind generation, in particular) is ruinous for Quebec." Read the entire report in FrenchYet none of this advice makes any sense to the intrepid minister.
"Minister of Natural Resources, Martine Ouellet, recognized that Quebec is struggling with surplus electricity. "But on the other hand, there are other considerations, such as the 5000 Quebec jobs related to wind power, including 800 in the Gaspé and Lower St. Lawrence. We can not act unilaterally without thinking that there are consequences, "said the minister during a meeting with Le Devoir." LinkNow how much does all this job creation cost Quebec taxpayers?
Quite a lot, in fact between $1.2 an $2 billion dollars a year.
All this for five thousand jobs.
Now I didn't even need to get out my calculator, a reader commenting under the above story laid it all out.
Yup, according to this reader, who did his sums quite correctly, each job created by these 'projects' that produce electricity that we throw away, costs taxpayers between $240,000 to $400,000 per.
And this every single year.
You read that right.
Martine Ouellet thinks it's reasonable to waste all that much money to create these 5,000 jobs producing a product that nobody is buying.
Actually, if she took the cash that the project wastes each year, she could just about pay THE ENTIRE GASPÉ PENINSULA WORKFORCE of about 60,000 workers (10,000 presently unemployed,) the tidy sum of $30,000 per year to dig holes in the ground and then fill them up again.
Madame Ouellet could then boast of having created 100% employment in the region!!
Such is the state of affairs in Quebec, where the media spends all its capital discussing the idiotic Charter of Values, instead of the very real disaster that is the mismanagement of the public purse.
Martine Ouellet is responsible for blowing between $1 billion and $2 billion of public money each year because she doesn't understand basic math or basic economics. She is directly responsible for the rumoured upcoming rate hike at Hydro-Quebec of some 6%, needed to fund all of this.
This is who is running the province, it's sad, but even sadder that nobody cares.
Lies, lies and more lies…you know what you get from these people…decades of lies, spin, propaganda…expose the truth…spread the word ourselves…don’t believe a thing coming from government or the mainstream media…
ReplyDeleteEnjoy the latest clip, exposing what’s really going on in Canada…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxqIpj9XeJE&hd=1
Seppies threatening violence if there is a re-enactment of the plains of Abraham a couple years ago!
DeleteSounds like something we should do again tomorrow.
The more unhappy and violence prone "Les Quebecois" become the more people recognize them for what they are.
Racist pursuing ethnic cleaning with any means possible.
Voilence, fraud, unions etc.
Should September 18'th not become an official day of celebration for the victors of the war?
DeleteHistory is so important.
"Je me souviens" isn;t enough on the license plates.
September 18. The day Quebecer surrender to the English.
New France thankfully starts to disappear.
Can be a new rosary bead for seppies to fondle.
Some enterprising seppie (exception that proves the rule) might sell a charm bracelet version.
Can collect a new rosary bead of past injustice every month by going to the website.
Add it to your chain to get the whole set. Quebec history for seppies to feel the injustice.
Good to hold when confronted by foreign languages, foreign people or zombies.
Only by final victory against the english can the seppie mind be free.
The ghosts of the past are still pushing them forward.
Its amazing that there isn't a single French journalist (or English one) who lays this out plain and simple for all the uneducated Quebeckers in the regions to see and understand.
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DeleteSeperatists deserve ignorant minister, such a s the one showcased by Editor in this posting, because they are ignorant themselves. Stupid is, as stupid does, and I am not even trying to be mean myself either.
Montréal ville-état has to break free from the clutches of stupidity, it deserves better. The roq can revel in their perpetual bubble unawares.
sure, and what about all those stupid Jesus freak who vote for harper.
DeleteAnd who is it that francophone roman catholics worship, other than Quebec's language laws?
DeleteI believe I am the first to comment..yes..finally.
ReplyDeleteIt is pretty sad..as I often say up is down and down is up in Quebec. They might as well just mail a 50,000 cheque to people in the Gaspe and elsewhere instead of 200,000 per job.
To be fair though fracking though has been somewhat overblown. There are very serious environmental consequences to fracking..go have a look at the documentary gasland..peoples drinking water have been contaminate with all sorts of garbage, the air quality in many areas is awful. Once again fracking is great for the short term but in the longer term I believe it will be seen as an environmental disaster.
So I think Quebec is right in being cautious on this.
Its very easy for us city dwellers to approve of fracking when we dont have to deal with the water and air issues associated with it. Its similar to the oilsands..the oilsands are in northern alberta in a pretty isolated area so its very easy for many canadians to dismiss the environmental impacts as we dont see it nor are affected by it. But the surrounding native people have been impacted in a huge way..there is all sorts of crap flowing into rivers and lakes up there and the size of the project is massive.
We only have one planet and at some point you cant just keep pouring chemicals in the rivers, lakes and our air before it comes back to bite us all in the butt. Our oceans have become a dumping ground for all sorts of garbage, plastics, chemicals and so on.
Nope, first comment was at 9:37 AM. "Missed it by that much ..." as Maxwell Smart would say.
Delete"... electricity doesn't have a shelf life."
ReplyDeleteThis needs to be pointed out as much as possible. Electricity can't be treated like other resource because it isn't like any other resource.
- Jay
I have a question as to quebec's most dangerous fool. was reading quebecs charter of human rights Chapter C-12 , Part 1 chapter 1
ReplyDeleteFUNDAMENTAL FREEDOMS AND RIGHTS
CHAPTER I.1
RIGHT TO EQUAL RECOGNITION AND EXERCISE OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS
10. Every person has a right to full and equal recognition and exercise of his human rights and freedoms, without distinction, exclusion or preference based on race, colour, sex, pregnancy, sexual orientation, civil status, age except as provided by law, religion, political convictions, language, ethnic or national origin, social condition, a handicap or the use of any means to palliate a handicap.
Discrimination exists where such a distinction, exclusion or preference has the effect of nullifying or impairing such right.
1975, c. 6, s. 10; 1977, c. 6, s. 1; 1978, c. 7, s. 112; 1980, c. 11, s. 34; 1982, c. 61, s. 3.
10.1. No one may harass a person on the basis of any ground mentioned in section 10.
1982, c. 61, s. 4.
11. No one may distribute, publish or publicly exhibit a notice, symbol or sign involving discrimination, or authorize anyone to do so.
article 11 *** Does this mean that Marois and her henchmen are guilty of Violating my rights by sending out their proaganda pamphlet on the charter of intolerance to my home? should they not be brought up on charges? or section 254 or 264 orf the Canadian criminal code in regards to hate literature?
Quebec is already over the line on UN Human Rights.
DeleteQuebec group think says this is ok because, say it all together "Quebec is in a precarious state in north america. It is being assaulted daily. As a minority in a sea of majority bla bla bla".
This is another thing Liberals and the PQ agree on. Ignoring Human Rights is ok.
What Francophones don't seem to understand is that UN Human Rights Protections were designed EXACTLY to PROTECT PEOPLE from EXACTLY what Quebec is doing now.
These universal declaration of human rights is something that was written to protect immigrants from exactly what the PQ and Liberals have been doing.
"Quebecois" ideas about democracy and human rights are perverted through their own racist lens.
Liberals should be screaming from the rafters. Instead they are all guiltily shuffling their feet and mumbling about "social contracts" and other meaningless phrases.
Montreal 2.0
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2014/02/26/national-post-editorial-board-quebecs-identity-crisis-du-jour/
""we encourage Montrealers to take a page from the Jewish General Hospital, English Montreal School Board and other conscientious objectors to the secularism charter: Simply ignore the government’s menaces and speak freely. ""
Civil disobedience starts small.
When racists run the govt like we have, pass laws like we see, based on stolen elections due to illegal riding sizes it's not a legitimate govt.
It's legitimate govt for toothless seppies in Charlevoix and Sherbrooke yes. They got 150% representation.
These laws are illegitimate in Montreal and must be ignored and ridiculed.
As for the Editor's comments, she is far from the only stupid PQ - Was announced on the news this morning that 50% of the francophone population do not trust the PQ. They have finally put their face out there way too much and the francophones are starting to notice that there is a lot of backtracking and "foot in the mouth" moments. Good on them: catch up to the rest of the world guys! They are making fools out of all of you!
DeleteFor myself, I will go to jail before I follow any of their stupid laws and continue to speak english when I want, where I want. If someone does not want to respond to me, tough, I didn't need them anyway. Everyone must ignore these ignorant and stupid charter and bills and carry on as if they don't exist. The PQ are making themselves look stupid and xenophobic all over the world now and trying to stop the lady in Chelsea from publishing on FB in english only is just another example of their "control" and backward mentality. She's had thousands of FB hits since this was published and everyone is on her side. Imagine telling someone what they can put out in cyberspace. They don't know when to quit.
By the way, be sure to catch Barry Wilson today on CTV News at noon. Lots to say about this week's events.
By AnecTOTE
Delete@Cutie
I watched the Barry Wilson clip, thanks for the head's up. Imagine popo is incapable of saying the word CANADA..after she get's billions in transfer payments every year. How classless and ordinary can you be? Holy crap...to know this is how people are wired makes you want to throw up.
All considered, I suppose if she can't even bring herself to articulate the word CANADA, it's because she hasn't overcome her demons and she's haunted, lol. AND if she hasn't conquered her hang-ups, she isn't read to leave, ( or Lead) lol.
Ça sent la panique du côté de la minorité/communauté anglo.
ReplyDeleteBy AnecTOTE
DeleteNot at all babes, we have NOTHING to lose and EVERYTHING to gain by becoming highly vocal. People are suddenly realizing this and are warming up, very quickly, to becoming Obstuctionists! (There's a new word for you, go google it) lol.
I sense you're projecting again, and I think you're scared shitless...more to come my friend, more to come! Lol
Comment? C'est un edito concernant Hydro-Quebec et les ressources naturelles...
Delete-Kevin
"by becoming highly vocal"
DeleteSables mouvants Tottie...Sables mouvants.
Scared shitless indeed!!!! Lol
DeleteDo you understand you cannot intimidate people like me? Do you not grasp that?????
Tonight when you go to sleep, just picture that Flyer your fearless Leader served up as this province's budget, the pamphlet to solve quebec economy woes..lol... now picture your Economy in that quicksand you rant and rave about.
...sweet dreams honey. Lol
Dormez-vous vêtue d'un burjama ?
DeleteHéhé!
Proud to wake up from the nightmare , did you see the retarded comments posted here by the seppies the minute they start to realize real quebecers are tired of their bullshit. Its thanks to Press 9 and SR that Iknow went to see CQB FB page THanks guys to see what VILE racists and hatefilled they are. The UN charter has NO not-withstanding clause wellcome to to the REAL world seppies! they flee the facts as if were the light, like in the bible " those who fear the light is because they love the darkness"...... By the way FB servers are based in the U.S nice going oqlf ...too much english on the internet now?? OH yeah and PRESS 9 ( AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL is also against your charter of hate :)
Deletethe government may have my body , but will NEVER have my obedience . VOTE OUT THE Fascists in waiting. Minority government acting like a dictatorship Jung Un Supreme leader is probably proud of marois.
The CQB FB page has only 1500 Likes, the francophobie.org site has only 4000 signatures. People with views like Press 9 are a tiny, insignificant minority in Quebec.
Delete"By the way FB servers are based in the U.S nice going oqlf"
DeleteLa majorité de ses clients sont de la Californie ou du Québec ?Elle s'adresse à une clientèle de proximité pas d'éventuels clients de Hong-Kong ?
Enfin,je l'espère pour elle :)
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DeleteYes its called extraterritorial laws , (NO jurisdiction ) just like quebec french bill 101 doesn;t apply to NY state, did you know that Press 9..... the official language of NY state is ENGLISH , too many quebecois getting tickets and contesting them in Albany NY because .... the tickets were printed in English. Too bad Meaning quebec can stick its racist laws up marois ass if there is enough room there with her "followers" .quebec doesn't own the internet!! Servers are in the US dumbass. do Manitoba trafic laws apply in quebec??? or Ontario real estate laws apply to quebec? tell me press 9?in other words no juridiction.either real or implied
DeleteActually, it's the cloud so servers are out in containers floating somewhere in the Atlantic or the Pacific, google servers anyway. Read that somewhere.
Delete-Virgil
I'm so glad this is being brought to people's attention, although perhaps some here already knew of it. I'm a Quebec geologist and barely worked last year. This year the project I was supposed to be working on was cancelled by a major mining company because of how unsettled things are here. Of all the geologists I know, not one of them has a job or even the future offer of a job. A few are staying in Quebec but I think about 75% of them are applying for positions in Alberta. Quebec's loss is Alberta's gain...
ReplyDeletehttp://news.nationalpost.com/2014/02/27/pauline-marois-disagrees-with-poll-saying-quebecs-anglophones-live-in-climate-of-insecurity/#comment-1264363719
ReplyDeleteSomewhat reminiscent of Student claiming that she "knew" how "good" the Jews have it in Montreal.
DeleteMust be nice to be able to sit in one's (stolen through embezzled money) mansion and look into your crystal ball and see how happy Anglos are while they make sure never to speak their language in public because they don't feel like getting stared at, or hoping the doctor will just tell them if it's cancer or not instead of busting their balls over the proper use of the accent aigu.
Pure narcissistic arrogance.
By AnecTOTE
Delete@ABSA
That Liar knows the Truth, that's what makes her a LIAR!
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/francophones-split-on-trust-of-parti-qu%C3%A9b%C3%A9cois-poll-suggests-1.2554157
DeleteCome alive out there guys and realize what a great country you're a part of that gives you money and protect your rights and freedoms!
FROM ED
ReplyDeleteI'm baaaack. Much to the discouragement of many here, I imagine. I have just come out of hospital since I died a week ago Tuesday. My breathing cut off completely and was saved by my Grandson using CPR plus the quick arrival of Urgence Sante.
It seems I have a severe case of 'Sleep Apnea' which was complicated by my pneumonia. When I sleep laying down I stop breathing. I am on heavy antibitics and house bound for two months. But hey, I lounge around in flannel pyjamas and get three or four hours snooze per day sitting up in my recliner. In this weaher who needs out? I was eight days in a private room. I'm home but still isolated while they try to find what stran of virus I have inhaled.
To the relief I'm sure of many here my posts will be rare.. Because my fibrualating heart gets out of control easy I must not get angry as it gives me a breathing attack.So help me out. Altogether now say, "I love the Liberals."
I'm discouraged at the spat between Dr.Couillard and Henri Gautrin our Liberal member in Verdun. Henri says he has decided to retire which is bad news for Verdun. For 28 years we have elected Henri and would have no matter what party he represented..
I've tried to convince Henri to run as an independant but he says although he feels he could stand the campaign, it's the four years after of dragging to Quebec city etc. It means we will have a PQ representative in Verdun as no one could replace him. Verdun is 85 percent separatist who voted for Henri because he was like a Father to all Verdun. Henri was there at celebrations, sporting events
and holidays. The extreme measure of a politicians popularity is when he's there in the crowd at a kid's ball game and no one gets excited that the member of parliament is there. He was so much among us that he was considered like a family member.
I wish Quebec the best in the campaign, may we move on in glory. I'm not worried about the polls, the polls will change when the dirt starts to come out after the election is announced. The one thing that could clinch it is if Legault would team with Couillard.
I urge you all to contact Mr. Ducheneau and urge him to run for the Liberals. It would make a great difference.
So goodbye to trolls; Stupid and So wRong. Also Sovain Ravist. So long to those who dance with trolls Anectote and Cebeuq
you might out smart those robots some day.. And goodbye to the only man on this planet that would condemn a whole nation over money. You have told me to drop dead Sauga, well I did but they brought me back so I say goodbye to you and your desire to get Quebec's cash. You give Jews and humanity a bad name. You area money grubbing Jew.
I wish the rest of you well and especially EDITOR who has educated me more than he'll ever know.
May God bless all as he sees fit. Ed
ED thank you for a great posts , I Wish a full recovery and health, all the best to you and your family
DeleteHey Ed, at the hospital, did you get service in English?
DeleteMaybe Ed is heavily medicated so he doesn't know what he's rambling on about. :)
DeleteFROM ED
DeleteYes anonymous, I was served in English by every doctor and nurse except the Haitian ones. They used both sometimes in the same sentence. I had a private room and a window overlooking a g-reat park. The room was because they haven't found which strain of virus I have and were trying to isolate it.
I pass the torch to you Anonymous. You are a good clear thinker. Please speak up for the Libs so we can get rid of the PQ. Good luck my friend. Ed
"The room was because they haven't found which strain of virus I have and were trying to isolate it."
DeleteIt's called Liberalitis. It's an infectious disease that affects the brain, particularly the reasoning center and thereby inhibits clear cognitive and logical thinking. Often distorts reality itself, causing disillusion. Unfortunately has long term affects and there is no known cure.
FROM ED
DeleteCOCO Thanks for the misinformation. I'm sorry to see you appear to have it. Ed
FROM ED
DeleteAPPLE I have not attacked Judaism or a race of people. I am talking to M. Sauga and him only. He makes it clear he is a Jew and considers himself like the pope (can do no wrong) He is a Jew and he is a money grubber.. He makes both those things very clear each time he opens his mouth. You are the one trying making it look like I am vilifying a whole race of people. When something is over your head, it's better you 'don't mix in' as the Jews would tell you. Ed
@ed
Deletegreat comeback ed. sauga does everything for everyone to be aware he's a jew and he likes the money. so saying he's a money loving jew shouldn't pose a problem to any serious reader. it's like saying you're a delusional liberal lover.
Apple IIGS: Ed is not the first person to spew anti-Semitism to me, far from it. Do remember how he did say how some of his best friends (namely, a former employer's family) were Jews. That more than gave away his position. Ed obviously is a very sick man and came of what I imagine was a very traumatizing scare. I never wished him harm and I still don't because I believe karma is the ultimate bitch.
DeleteI am surprised that after his near-death experience he could show such bitterness. Most people whom I have ever heard from seem to find such experiences humbling. Like a death in one's family, sometimes it brings the best out of the deceased's survivors, and sometimes the worst. I experienced both sides of the aftermath upon the deaths of my parents. The differences were staggering, but they did reflect the lives they lived. I won't say which experience was which, but they were completely different from one another.
Ed: I hope the remainder of your life is exactly what God feels you deserve.
Best,
Mr. Sauga
Ed -
DeleteOh for christs sake, Ed. You wrote, and I quote, "You are a money grubbing Jew."
Associating Jews with hoarding and controlling money is about as stereotypical a comment and as racist as you can get. All you need do is throw in a mention of his undoubtedly hooked nose for good measure. Mind you, I'm sure such a comment from you isn't far off.
Are you really that ignorant to claim your comment has nothing against Jews in general?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotypes_of_Jews#Greed
And it's not just anti-semantic remarks, I've seen you make derogatory comments about other minority groups in your posts recently. Quite sad, that makes you a small minded person and speaks volumes of your character. Doubt you get it, judging a person by the content of what they are and how they act (i.e. their character), rather than the color of their skin or race they were born, is what is essential. Luckily for you, you happen to live in a society that thrives in hate, division and superiority based on race. Luckily for you the political party that embraces those anti-values will be the majority ruling party as of next month; I expect you'll fit in quite well. A government that represents your believes and values!
I don't wish any ill on you, Ed, and you're certainly entitled and welcome to share your opinions and thougths like most of us here, but I lose a lot of respect for anyone who puts down another based on who or what they were born.
There there, Apple. What is especially stupid in all this is there is no money in it for me whatsoever if Quebec separates so how I'm a moneygrubber is beyond me. I see it as better for all 34 million Canadians as a whole...well...the remaining 26 million outside Quebec. Québécois as a whole won't be too happy once the s**t hits the fan fiscally.
DeleteSo much for Ed's completely foolish statement. It makes zero sense.
Personnelement,si j'étais un anglo (Dieu merci,non),je quitterais le Québec sans aucune hésitation.
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DeleteAnd if I were a seppie (a fate worst than Lice), I'd throw myself from Mount Logan (without safety harness, bien entendu) lol, just so to rid the world (especially CANADA) of one more STUPID person.
"... je quitterais le Québec sans aucune hesitation."
DeleteEasy for you to say, actually doing it is something else completely. That you don't understand that says a lot.
It's fascinating how Quebec can have a fifty year discussion about identity without understanding the concept at all.
- Jay
By AnecTOTE
DeleteA 50 year discussion Indeed, AND still they don't have a clue who they are...THAT'S THE PUNCHLINE ...LOLOLOLOLOL
As far as s.r is concerned, HE CAN LEAVE, or he can visit Mount Logan on a one-way trip, lol
No, the discussion has been very worthwhile. It was necessary and I'm glad it has happened. It should have been the first step to making things better for everyone. And we should have moved on to the next parts of the discussion. And many people have.
DeleteBut it often sounds like a bad joke to hear people in the government in Quebec talking about the "majority" and the "minority" as if nothing has changed in fifty years. The same complete lack of understanding and insight into the non-Francophone population of Quebec and the ROC exists now as it did then. How is that possible?
- Jay
Si j'etais un seppie/franco, -- I would learn better English ;)
DeleteWhats stopping you from leaving quebec if you don't like it? Can't or wont speak English or any other languages? AFRAID of walking around the streets with English signs? you can always go to france see how their version of the charter is working out.
DeleteAnd better English is British English not the bastardized English spoken in North America ;)
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Delete"Whats stopping you from leaving quebec if you don't like it?"
DeleteJ'adore le Québec,aucune raison de le quitter.Ce sont vous les anglos qui semblez inconfortables et mésadaptés en refusant de vivre dans sa seule et unique langue officielle.Vous avez le canada et les É.U pour vivre en English,ce n'est pas suffisant pour vous?
Bizarre,non?
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DeleteYES all 350 Million with Canada and U.S Combined....feeling insignificant now?? The UN and Amnestie INternational you know, the little organizations are watching quebec. can you tell me YL 93% of provinces signed the Canadian Constitution
Delete7 out of 10 to ratify it is the amending formula ,is it democratic is the threshold.... how can 50%+1 vote be? can you answer that YL wait i'll just answer like you will " It was signed against quebecs will"...Its called democracy YOU DONT NEED Unanimity for it....just another seppie myth, like the debt clock at 261 BILLION $ -quebecs share of the Canadian debt ( 462 Billion TOTAL) how are the other half of the people that stay going pay???? hmmmmm
"And better English is British English"
DeleteEffectivement,Je trouve beaucoup plus facile de saisir les propos d'un Britannique que d'un "canadian" ou que d'un Australien.
Hey Press 9
Delete"Whats stopping you from leaving quebec if you don't like it?"
J'aime leCANADA ,aucune raison de le quitter.Ce sont vous les seppie qui semblez inconfortables et mésadaptés en refusant de vivre AVEC les ANGLAIS un des langegue officielles Du CANADA .Vous avez le FRANCE et an caribes / Afrique en Francais,ce n'est pas suffisant pour vous?
Bizarre,yes? marois "quebec Uber Alles" If you are PURE french you are quebecois if not LEAVE her ne campaign slogan
"Je trouve beaucoup plus facile de saisir les propos d'un Britannique que d'un "canadian" ou que d'un Australien."
DeleteSans blague c'est pareil pour moi. Il y a quelques années j'ai commencé à apprendre l'anglais britannique à l'aide d'une méthode sur CD et j'étais vraiment en amour avec cette langue qui a peu à voir avec l'anglais bâtard parlé en Amérique du Nord. Mais à un moment donné j'ai commencé à sentir la langue anglaise entrer en moi et je n'aimais pas la sensation. Je me sentais sale. J'ai donc arrêté. De toute façon je n’en ai pas besoin sauf pour quelques phrases clé comme Speak to me in french fucking English-Canadian, half-american, second class anglo-saxon.
Haha!...Y.L
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DeleteYes I agree, it is disgusting what is crapped out if their mouths, isn't it? I caused a bit a raucous where I work, if English isn't allowed, neither is joual,lol. It's taken 2 yrs, but I got my way, General Manager for Quebec saw it my way, and it's been an awsome pleasure sticking it to them. It's a stinking disgusting dialect,and that's why the real French despise it.
Delete-Virgil
I see that the gun touting thug y.l still has a lump of shit in his pants at the sight of the approaching english Canadian master. every time he sees the mighty anglo he shits his pants and heads for the woods like his ancestors have done for centuries.
Delete"second class anglo-saxon"
DeleteHaha!
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Delete@ Virgil,
Delete"It's a stinking disgusting dialect, and that's why the real French despise it."
How true. I just watched "The Monuments Men" movie last week. The movie is about a group of Allied soldiers who are tasked with finding and saving looted art before its destruction by the Nazis in the Second World War. One of the soldiers is James Granger (played by Matt Damon), who is an American museum curator from New York City. In recently liberated France, James Granger tries speaking French to three different French citizens and is told each time that his French is terrible. In one case he is told to switch to English in order to be better understood. The reason for Damon's very poor French becomes crystal clear when he tells one of the Frenchmen that he picked it up while studying in Montreal. They can't understand him because he learned shitty, bastardized Quebec Joual.
Even Hollywood knows that Quebec Joual is a garbage version of French, and this fact is currently being broadcast in movie theaters around the world!
Make sure we expose the Hatred of all things English to the world ...oh wait we can't do that...the Americans speak ENGLISH press 9 and YL you gonna tell the US to speak french when they come to quebec are you? I speak English when I in montreal, some bastard told me to speak french told him to f-off in 4 langauges boy was he confused....asked in russian if he could speak it, same in german, and spanish ...he gave up and walked away like a seppie does when defeated.I AM A FIRST CLASS English speaking CANADIAN MF.
DeleteLes Québécois envahissent la planète Hollywood!
Deletehttp://www.estrieplus.com/contenu-0404040431383635-28098.html
Aucun "canadian" ?
Haha!
Après la France,Las Vegas et les Olympiques...Hollywood :)
Deleteand what language do they speak??? oh noooooo thats right ENGLISH...learn it , it's good you can use it to expand your horizons and the possibility to advance.....oh no OUI are quebecois we like to keep people from learning English then they can't see whats going on in the WORLD :)
DeleteYeah a holiday in his condo bought with our money - some punishment they dole out to these crooks. No wonder this province is the most corrupt in all of North America. Everyone is rewarded for being just what they are: crooks and murderers - we should be so proud of our "culture". No wonder quebec has an inferiority complex - they are inferior.
Delete" I AM A FIRST CLASS English speaking CANADIAN ** "
DeleteÉvidemment mais vous devez tout de même presser le 9 ... "an English message will follow"...Tic tac tic tac tic ....
"they are inferior"
DeleteSelon les derniers tests internationaux PISA, qui mesurent la performance scolaire des jeunes de 15 ans, les Québécois de souche sont les meilleurs au Canada en mathématiques. 80% de l'industrie canadienne du génie est concentrée au Québec. Les Québécois de souche sont reconnus pour être parmi les meilleurs au monde en informatique. Etc.
"quebec has an inferiority complex"
Par contre il est moins notable qu'il y a 50 ans. Les Anglo-canadiens quant à eux ont un complexe d'infériorité par rapport aux Américains.
Après le prochain référendum, les Québécois seront envahis d'un immense sentiment de fierté qui diminuera d'autant leur complexe d'infériorité résiduel. Tandis que les Anglo-canadiens vont entrer dans une phase de dépression qui, entre autres, amplifiera leur complexe d'infériorité, n'ayant plus les Québécois pour se distinguer des Américains. héhé!
@y.l
Deletei didn't know that y.l. thanks for sharing.
A sense of pride on an empty stomach, how does that work?
DeleteThe 15 year olds you mention as high achieves apparently, don't they contribute to that high rate of high school dropouts in Quebec's French educational sector?
-Virgil
@virgil
Deleteexactly virgil "high achieves" don't contribute to dropout numbers. keep it up mate.
By AnecTOTE
Delete"...après le prochain référendum, les Québécois seront envahis d'un immense sentiment de fierté qui diminuera d'autant leur complexe d'infériorité résiduel.."
Imagine all this fuss because an inferiority complex? Decades and decades and they still can't conquer this shameful sense of self. Meanwhile people who own less than nothing move here with $20.00 in their pockets, build collateral, amass assets and become independently wealthy.
But after such a self-defeatist admission, how can anyone think YOU can run a "nation"? Lol
@y.l: "les Québécois de souche sont les meilleurs au Canada en mathématiques. ... Les Québécois de souche sont reconnus pour être parmi les meilleurs au monde en informatique"
DeleteWhere's any evidence of this? If you're going to make claims of superiority, there should be something to back it up.
By AnecTOTE
ReplyDeleteFolks I'm floored...and then again, I am not, this is the quebec way, no no getting all uppity when people call you corrupt to the bone. Seriously, who allows this? Btw..Mme La Juge Charbonneau, pack up and go home, you're just window-dressing.
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Laval+mayor+Gilles+Vaillancourt+gets+okay+vacation/9563657/story.html
Press 9
ReplyDeleteIf I were French ( thank God I'm not ) I would leave this Country - Continent - and move to France ( without hesitation )
After a few hundred years it's time to forgive them and go back home..................
http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/mattel-to-acquire-montreal-toy-maker-mega-brands-1.1707954#commentsForm-490156
ReplyDeleteHere's a potentially interesting story in the news. The Montreal-based company Mega Brands (formerly Mega Bloks) was officially bought out by toy giant Mattel today. Mattel claims they plan to keep the company and its HQ operating in Montreal, but then again, promises like these are often empty words when it comes to big business. If things in Quebec continue along a path of political and economical uncertainty, you can bet Mattel will relocate this head office to Toronto (or the States) on a moments notice. As a matter of fact, I'd bet on it....mark my words, months from now, there will be such an announcement.
Also interesting to note, Mattel's history with other company takeovers abroad have not ended so well. Bluebird Toys had its UK HQ shutdown, Fisher Price's manufacturing plant was shutdown and moved to China. What does that say for Montreal, a backwater region with the highest taxes in North America, restriction language laws, disregard for freedom of religion, political uncertainty and dead last economically in Canada. If I were a multi-billion dollar cooperation, I'd move my assets out of Montreal in the blink of an eye.
"In 1995, Softkey acquired The Learning Company (TLC) for $606 million, moved its headquarters to Boston, and took The Learning Company as its name. TLC bought its former rival Brøderbund in June 1998 for $416 million. In 1999, TLC and its 467 software titles were acquired by Mattel in a $3.8 billion stock swap.[8] Sales and earnings for Mattel soon dropped, and O'Leary departed from Mattel. The purchase by Mattel was later called one of the most disastrous acquisitions in history." (Wikipedia)
DeleteSoftkey was started by Dragon Den's Kevin O'Leary, a former Montrealer. Kevin is the bald, boisterous Mr. Wonderful on the show.
Yeah, and his brother is....
DeleteHis brother is Shane O'Leary, gas and oil executive. What does that have to do with Mattel?
DeleteApple IIGS: You forgot to mention in your second paragraph that Quebec also has the most stringent anti-business labour laws on the continent. Couple that with their crazy and fanatical language and religious paraphernalia laws, you can bet your bottom dollar Mattel will take Mega Bloks out of there in a flash.
DeleteFor Ed's consumption, maybe Mattel is secretly run or having its levers pulled by moneygrubbing Jews.
The lady from Chelsea is going to fight the stupid FB language police - good for her - has lots of support:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.ottawasun.com/2014/02/27/shop-owner-embroiled-in-language-scuffle?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=recommend-button&utm_campaign=Shop+owner+embroiled+in+language+scuffle
YUp and Her majesty Marois "Quebec Uber Alles policies" must be going over well with the US based Face book , let me guess too much English on the inter"Pasta"net first quebec then the world.
Deletehttp://globalnews.ca/news/1179989/montreal-board-of-trade-president-criticizes-language-police-over-facebook-crackdown/
DeleteBoard of Trade criticizes Language Police. What's wrong is wrong.
Since a useless tool made an anonymous complaint to the OQLF on Tuesday, their Facebook page has gone from under 600 to over 8,500 “likes” and what Quebec is doing is being discussed nationally. Best attention possible. Free publicity that money can’t buy.
DeleteBy AnecTOTE
Delete@Cutie
Good for the Lady from Chelsea! One more plate of Pastagate coming up. This time let's knock it out of the park, where we not only embarrass these sons-of-bitches, but ramp up enough world-wide outrage it will bring on serious sanctions. This is the only way out, the only way to send a message. It is open season in quebec for Minority groups who are being viciously attacked and held hostage by an illegitimate government elected by the anti-intellectual minority, who now feels it must represent only those who voted for it. We've handed over the keys of government to 5yrs olds who are tearing the place down, I am serious. As for the OQLF, it is acting out of pure emotion right now going after the Lady from Chelsea, this bunch of deadbeats is still wounded from being ridiculed world-wide and they are hurting. But what do they do? They strike out again in the exact same "emotional" way, venturing into no-man's land of FB and the Internet. Folks, this is a gift! They are no longer flying under the radar, like in decades past, which had they been smart, they would have continued to do. Arrogance, Hatred, Racism and Intolerance has gotten the better of them, they've become completely irrational, and have handed over a golden opportunity. To the great Listeners...Few words!! Let's take 'em to the cleaners!
You think that's stupid. Get a load of this one:
Deletehttp://www.thebeaverton.com/national/item/1215-quebec-s-language-police-fines-anglophone-family-for-writing-toronto-in-english-on-movin
When they crossed the border into Ontario, I hope they took that ticket, wiped their ass with it, tore it into little pieces and mailed it to the appropriate office in quebec. If I'm forced from this GD place by these A$$holes, I will leave owing them every cent I can and then just try to catch me. North Korea is starting to look good to me.
By AnecTOTE
Delete@Cutie - from the same link you provided:
"...“You can use whatever language you want at home but anything that is visible in public must be strictly in French" Laplante said while issuing a fine to the owner of an Ontario registered vehicle for having an English license plate. "These measures may appear draconian but the public fails to appreciate how the mere sight of an English word can cause a real québécois to forget the entirety of his language and heritage.”
Yes indeed, the mere sight of an English word...will provoke an episode of spontaneous combustion with the québécois public at large.
Wow, it never occurred to us just how fragile and weak the québécois are. Do they know that this is what the language police is saying about them?
How can we entrust the running of a "nation" to people who's sense of weakness and fragility has become a pathology?
Cutie, sweetie, that was a joke - a spoof.
DeleteThough, it's easy to see why people would consider it factual. :-)
@cutie003
Deleteyou'll have to understand we can't consider your opinion cutie003 since we can never know if it's based on reality or if it's built on a joke like this one.
@montréal ville-état
Deleteof course above comment goes for you as well mate. who would have thought that anonymous buster of shit arguments was less gullible than you two?!?
By AnecTOTE
DeleteNot so fast ABSA, people don't just grab such stories out of their asses, it probably did happen in some shape or form, and it's no no spoof, but they are so embarrassed by their own stupidity and afraid it will tun into a Pastagate story, they've spinned it into a "spoof" story. Until evidence to the contrary, that's the likely story.
After reading some of the other headlines of the articles in the Beaverton I see now where it is one of those spoof papers. Sorry AnecTOTE but hope it gave you a laugh. Wasn't familiar with the paper - it was posted on FB but you know what: Nothing surprises me in this province any more and we may well be reading it as "truth" soon enough. Thank you. If all this political BS keeps up much longer I should know every "spoof" newspaper in Canada and the US.
DeleteAnd thank you also ABSA - didn't mean to leave you out of the above.
Delete@all readers that think fake news are fake
Deleteisn't this the funniest bit today (yet)? these two clowns are told their scoop is a joke, but they still believe it to be true. by jove are they pushing paranoia's outer limits or what?
By AnecTOTE
Delete@Cutie
No worries my dear, in a month or a week it will no longer be a spoof, it's outrageous enough to be true. Just look who we're dealing with, morons, and incidentally, when I first heard of Pastagate I thought THAT was a joke, but we know better don't we? For months, La Belle Province was a punchline worldwide, and trust me, it will be again....'Nuf said.
@montreal ville-état
Deleteso you thought the pasta thing was a joke and it was real, and then now you thought this joke was real.
can't wait for the next time you claim french canadians have a weak grip on reality,
haha.
By AnecTOTE
DeleteAhhh you're bumbled because earlier today one of your fellow trolls admitted you all suffer from an acute sense of inferiority (his words not mine) and I said considering your pathology, you couldn't possibly run a nation lol.
But hey...keep defending that "quebec" brand, maybe one day you'll actually buy the crap you're sellin'. Haha
Anonymous Buster of Shit Arguments beat me to it: The Beaverton is a Canadian-based satirical news website, like The Onion in the United States -- and just as lame, IMHO.
DeleteThat's another reason to lament the death of newspapers: Now, any goofball can create a "spoof" website on the Internet and spread bogus "news" without spending a dime; it wouldn't be worth the cost to do that with a newspaper -- unless you're running Le Devoir, I guess.
Feu vert à la démolition de la Maison Redpath
ReplyDeletehttp://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/montreal/201402/28/01-4743589-feu-vert-a-la-demolition-de-la-maison-redpath.php
;)
Meanwhile, Québec débloque 20 millions pour le patrimoine religieux
Deletehttp://www.fil-information.gouv.qc.ca/Pages/Article.aspx?aiguillage=themes&listeThe=2&idArticle=2202144340
Secular much?
Wasn't the demolition suspension order on the Redpath mansion for 30 days? (i.e. deadline of March 18th)
DeleteThat article, combined with the link above, just proves if it isn't White, Catholic or French, then it is not deemed worthy of preservation in the province of Quebec. More than that, it is encouraged that it be eradicated. Erasing history, wonderful.
Your memory is double plus ungood.
DeleteWe are at war with Eastasia. We've always been at war with Eastasia.
Ever notice how when seppies get uncomfortable and are faced with THE REAL world they change the subject . Feu vert sur la destruction de l'economie du quebec...maybe they should build the provinces economy up instead of subsidizing linguistic BULLSHIT :)
ReplyDeleteQu'est-ce qui peut bien retenir les anglos,chez nous, au Québec ?
ReplyDeleteIls n'aiment pas notre langue
Ils n'aiment pas notre culture (littérature,théâtre,cinéma,télévision,etc.)
Ils n'aiment pas notre modèle économique
Ils n'aiment pas notre modèle social
Ils n'aiment pas notre mentalité
Etc.
Et ils sont à genoux devant les Américains
Ils sont fous ces anglos :)
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DeleteIls n'aiment pas notre langue
DeleteFaux - they prefer to speak the language they're in the mood to speak when they speak it.
Ils n'aiment pas notre culture (littérature,théâtre,cinéma,télévision,etc.)
Tough shit. Some of us also dislike Russian hip-hop. Doesn't mean it's bad - just means it's not our cup of tea. Second, if I want to watch vacuous crap like American Idol, The Banker and et al, I'll stick to the original version and not the copycat Quebecois version.
Ils n'aiment pas notre modèle économique
Correction: You have to have a model for us to hate. Come back when you actually have an economy worth talking about.
Ils n'aiment pas notre modèle social
The separatists consider someone making $100K RICH and tax them according to the way you would someone making $1M. Of course we don't love this model and many Francophones are done with it. The majority (F & A) are sick of working their asses off so welfare parasites can leech off of them.
Ils n'aiment pas notre mentalité
The separatist mentality? Tell us, what's to like about the separatist mentality? We're supposed to feel bad because we're not racists like the PQ and their supporters?
Et ils sont à genoux devant les Américains
Really? It's the separatists who constantly keep whining that they're "drowning in an ocean" of 350M Anglophones. That's why they feel a need to rip off American TV and movie concepts and then call it "unique Quebec culture" simply for the fact that Rambo V.Q is presented in joual.
S.R. in reality is a federalst who is trying to openly expose the ridiculous quebec sovereignty movement by pretending to be a separatist. No real separatist would openly be that stupid in scope and comments. Some of my friends back in quebec are separatists but make 100 TIMES more sense than S.R.
Delete@Editor
ReplyDeleteBeaucoup trop d'Anonymous dernièrement,vous devriez faire respecter les règles de votre blogue.
@SR:
DeleteTu doit etre un federaliste sans aucuns doutes. Tu es un vrai federaliste qui pretend etre un separeux afin de mal faire paraitre les separeux avec tes commentaires. Tes propos et mots choisis sont tres revelateurs car tu personifies un con de petit independantistes afin de mirroiter le separeux moyen: tres cave.
Tu es genial!
When you treasonous separatists show respect for the Canadian constitution AND Canada maybe then you cockroaches might get some tolerance.
ReplyDeleteOran's Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as "...[a]...citizen's actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the [parent nation]." In many nations, it is also often considered treason to attempt or conspire to overthrow the government, even if no foreign country is aiding or involved by such an endeavor.
Oh boo freeking hoo!!! a separatist is crying because we are anonymous , like the student protesters right....we don't know who you are .....awwwww
Anonymous, we all know perfectly well what you are saying but please understand that the treasonous separatist is trying to see if he can goad you into saying things that will make him titter and post elsewhere. Better to focus on the Editor’s comments and other constructive commentary, otherwise you’re just falling into his trap.
DeleteFROM ED
DeleteIt is not the separatist that are crying . It is the Editor who asked that you use a title. Remember him the man that's footing the bill here. Also other contributors want this. Stop thinking of yourself and put a name.
Les traîtres du Québec sont les francophones fédérastes.
DeleteEd: You, of all people, should talk about identifying yourself. You haven't yet even figured out when you add your insipid comments, you can identify yourself more clearly by clicking on the "Reply as:" arrow to the right of the box showing "Google Account" and select the Name/URL line and enter your name in the Name box. It's really Simple Simon stuff, Ed.
DeleteOhhhhh....I forgot, and yet I have a superior Jewish brain. I forgot Ed can't do Simple Simon stuff. My bad.
Let me spell it out for you, Simple Simon Ed: It's on, bitch!
Anonymous, it appears that you are relatively new here (otherwise you would know that the Editor requests people not to post as Anonymous, as per the rules posted at the top of every page). Press 9/S.R is an internet troll who has been trying to bait people on this blog for at least 4 years now by posting crap under a variety of names (which is also against the blog rules). Provoking a response is exactly what he seeks and is the only reason he ever posts anything on here, hoping to cause some disruption. Lately, you are the one who has been giving him the most giggles.
ReplyDeleteEveryone else has eventually learned to ignore him. Please do the same.
This is my take on quebec and its future.
ReplyDeleteAs a franco quebecois born and raised in quebec and stayed 1 year (unemployed) after graduating from the HEC with a BAA until I left for work to Calgary almost 10 years ago and have since travelled in several countries, I say this:
quebec sucks.
quebec has no future other than one with degrading socio-economic situation.
quebec is not business friendly and quebec society is openly socialist by definition.
If I were in quebec right now I would seriously start to plan for a move out of province. Ontario is not a good, wise choice due to its poor economy. If I was a young graduate I would move to Alberta. If you stay in quebec it must be because you like it there and then you should all either shut the hell up, put up, enjoy quebec or move out.
quebec is a dead end. Even my HEC peers told me that I was brave to leave and made a good decision. A few told me if they could move they would (wives said no).
And I forgot this:
DeleteMontreal will never be a "city-state". way too many separatists there. Quebec city would have greater chances.
Well time to pack up; I am flying to Cyprus (Paphos) for a 4 day beach holiday!!!
Bon voyage Sauga Jr !
DeleteMerci S.R. Tres gentil de toi.
DeleteIt should be fun to work on the destruction of the environment.
DeleteAnd how much of Quebec's environment has been damaged by hydroelectric dams and reservoirs, which destroyed pristine river systems and flooded vast tracts of virgin, forested territory? There is also the mining of poisonous asbestos which has been shipped to countries around the world but is not legal for use in Quebec.
Delete@durham
Delete"There is also the mining of poisonous asbestos which has been shipped to countries around the world but is not legal for use in Quebec."
right on durham. and thanks to pq this is over. thanks for underlining this pq achievement.
By AnecTOTE
Delete@Durham
Oh but wait till, god forbid, the PQ get elected as a majority government and start frakking (something they vowed never to do because they deem themselves champions of the environment, with their holier-than-though attitude) on Anticosti to pay off their 250+billion$ debt and serve Le coup-de-grâce to the quebec environment, we shall truly celebrate PQ achievements then, won't we? Right on Durham thanks for underling PQ achievements!
@montreal ville-etat
Deletewhat the pq has gotten into is exploration on anticosti island. don't you agree montreal ville-état that it would be nice to know what's down there before giving a go or no go to exploitation? if you are against exploration on anticosti please tell us why. oh, using arguments of course. give it a try.
The asbestos exported around the world from Quebec will still be killing people for decades to come, whether it continues to be mined or not.
Delete@durham
Deletesure. but thanks to current pq government this will finally end. thanks for underlining this durham.
Not a response to the article but a suggestion to all who write here:
ReplyDeleteOn this site there are plenty of amazing writers with excellent arguments to demolish the separatist and language supremacists' ideas. However we are talking mostly to a crowd of the converted.
I would suggest we all regularly go over the Journal de Montreal website where there are daily articles that take jabs at Anglos and promote the separatists cause. There are also plenty of articles about the ridiculous social and economic policies of our current government. When you look at the comments section below these articles, you will quickly come to the conclusion that we are dealing with a mostly lost cause when it comes to common sense. There are a few defenders of the non-separatist, pro-business cause but they are a minority. Most writers in the comments section of the blogs just preach the same stupidity we are used to seeing with our resident trolls.
We should take some of the best arguments put forward on this site (with author's permission), translate them into French, and put them in the blog section of the J de Mtl.
I would also suggest the following theme when responding to comments:
We understand the separatist desire to create a unique Francophone country in North America. However we want no part of it because it is based on ethnicity, and is not financially viable. We are not against Quebec separating, we just want Montreal, the Anglo regions, and the regions that vote No to be exempt.
I don't believe many separatists have heard these arguments before. They believe they can keep scaring the crap out of Anglos by threatening to separate. When you tell them you are in favour as long as we are not part of it, they will fall off their chair. The smart people here all know that Quebec's threat to separate is nothing more than a "petard mouillé".
FROM ED
DeleteExcellent idea MTL, but caution people to send sensible comments that will educate the separatists. Don't send the crap that some post here to the trolls.They might also be asked to publish the same comment here so there won't be a lot of useless repetition. Ed
Hey Ed - I think you just torpedoed the next liberal candidate in Laval with your letter to the Gazette. Cutting off your nose to spite your face are you not? You should read what you send out and look at it from another angle. Anyone who was undecided has now made the wrong choice.
Delete@mtl1973
Delete"On this site there are plenty of amazing writers with excellent arguments to demolish the separatist and language supremacists' ideas."
sure get cebeuq's and cutie003's crap translated and paste it on french boards. i fully support this initiative. or did you have other "amazing writers" in mind? un gars bs de frankfort maybe? or apple iigs?
Good to know you are following the bouncing ball!
DeleteI think our little girl is getting nervous...
DeleteFROM ED
DeleteCutie, what does my letter have t do with Laval? I don't understand you. Ed
Sorry Ed - should have said Verdun but the rest of my comment still applies. I think you have done harm to both Dr. Couillard and the liberal party with that letter. It made him look bad and undecided voters will now think that the PQ have a shoe in with your candidate gone. I'm not that familiar with the names of the areas in and around Montreal so got mixed up between Laval and Verdun.
DeleteFROM ED
DeleteCutie, if you read my letter you would know that the harm was done by Dr.Couillard. I am rreally disgusted with him, he needs to get a thicker skin. Either that or he was planning al along to slip a friend in here. What I have said is accurate, there is no one going to replace Henri. The epitomy of a politician in my opinion, is when he is spotted at a kid's ball game and no one gets excited because the member of Parliament is there. He is more like family among us.
However when I suggested to Henri that we run him as an independent he told me he is happy to retire. He says that at 70 he could stand the campaign but the four years after of dragging to Quebec city is too much. His legs are getting weary., he is a heavy man. He was absolutely right in saying that an election would bring a PQ victory ac0ording to the polls, which is what he was asked. However the English press are like a fifth column working against us wanted to to make him look dotty. I Know you see this as my fault but your shooting the messanger as you will see when the time comes. Ed
Well I tried to tell you that before but you wouldn't listen - he should have dumped that lady that didn't want to follow party policy right from the start and said he couldn't have people in his party that don't agree on the principles. That being said, be careful because you were right that there is no one else out there for us to support so give him as much as you can and then try to get things turned around. Right now we are under a big time constraint and now is not the time to turn on the party. I'm sure at 70 he wanted to retire anyway - not an easy job but especially here in quebec. Maybe in Verdun they voted for the man but most people vote for the party because not many of us know our reps. Fight for the liberals in any way you can because, as you said, who needs the PQ for yet another term. They will kill what little good will is left between the people that live here and there will end up being fights on the streets before they're finished. Don't forget Dr. Couillard is trying to change a lot of old timers thinking and if that's what he's doing, he on the right track. This stalemate will never end unless they change their tactics.
Delete@cutie003
Deleteyou're a liberal voter now?!? you spent the last year claiming they were no good. i think you should try to convince montreal ville-état because she's been cheerleading for caq lately.
Ye gad, I don't believe what I just read above. I am just absolutely stymied with disbelief!
DeleteIs this the same Ed who was absolutely convinced just mere months ago that Philippe Couillard M.D. was the coming of the Messiah? Tsk tsk tsk, Ed! Like Linus Van Pelt from the Peanuts cartoon, maybe you're finally learning there is no Great Pumpkin after all. Like Linus's favourite pumpkin patch, maybe it just wasn't sincere enough, much like the environs you are living in right now. Maybe, like Linus, you're just a victim of a false doctrine.
I told you, Ed, many, many months ago Philippe Couillard is NOT Quebec's saviour. You didn't yield to my far superior moneygrubbing Jewish brain and realize I was right all along. Too bad, so sad, but you just don't have a Jewish brain to think these things through, do you, Brain-Dead Ed?
P.S.: In case your memory of your inferior Christian brain is too short to remember, I remind you: we're on, bitch!
Sauga: Is it necessary to stoop to what you think its Ed's level, or even lower? Not everyone will remember how the fight you're dragging on got started oh so many posts ago.
DeleteAnonymous contributor: I'm making an exception of responding to you because you did not identify yourself. Please give yourself an alias, as requested by our esteemed editor. It is not an unreasonable request.
DeleteTo answer your comment, this is for Ed's consumption, not yours; furthermore, the editor is Jewish, too. Since he's on vacation, I'm not sure he saw what Ed wrote because had he done so, I think he would have stricken it right away. I'm actually glad he didn't because I'm sure other Jewish people would like to see what Ed really thinks of the Jews--as if nobody knew when he started with his "some of my best friends are Jewish" stuff several months ago.
He placed all his faith and a false idol named Philippe Couillard M.D., a complete shock considering his age and experiences. In his late 70s, how can he put so much stock in a greasy politician you know you can't trust as far as you can throw him.
I WILL let Ed have it at every turn from here on in. What a simpleton if he truly believed Philippe Couillard M.D. would move Heaven and Earth! Then again, there are those who believe the pope is holy. The only time I knew the pope to be holey was JPII when he was shot full of holes in 1981. I'm thankful he recovered and survived for I don't think he deserved to get shot. He was probably the best pope of my lifetime. Benedict definitely was not and it's too early to tell with Francis.
La série noire continue pour les "libs"...
ReplyDeleteLa candidate libérale dans Blainville visée par le DGEQ
« À Blainville, le ou vers le 26 septembre 2009, [Marie-Claude Collin] a sciemment fait une contribution au montant de 150 $ au bénéfice du parti Vrai Blainville - Équipe Cantin alors que cette contribution a eu pour effet de lui faire dépasser le maximum de 1000 $ permis par la Loi (…). »
http://ici.radio-canada.ca/regions/montreal/2014/02/28/004-marie-claude-collin-blainville-parti-liberal.shtml
Hahahaha!!!
ReplyDeleteI love it!
How does that feel, Marois?
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=825741700785179
And I had the extreme pleasure of running face to face into Jean Paul Perreault at the grocery store this morning. Made my day. He was on his way out and I was not at the cash so there was no confrontation but there would have been had I been there 10 minutes earlier and in front of him through the cash. I have my speech all ready for the day that happens and everyone in the store will hear me loud and clear when he tells me "this is quebec; speak french". All I had the pleasure of this morning was giving him a dirty look over which he seemed puzzled.
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ReplyDelete"I can see that there a lot of Richard Bain Friend here..."
Ordinarily a comment like the one posted above warrants no response, but we need to make a point and it is an important point. The legitimate contributors to this blog never bring up that individual's name. No one condones what he did, and certainly none want to be associated with his actions. If anything, most feel he's done a great deal of harm to the cause, and to what most are trying to accomplish on this activist blog.
The separatists and silent nationalists, on the other hand, celebrate and revere the Rose brothers, who were kidnappers and murders. The FLQ label has become a badge of honor today especially for the language extremists and sympathizes alike, engendering further racism, bigotry and intolerance within the boundaries of this province. It shall be their legacy, I'm afraid, and speaks volumes for who they are, 'nuff said.
BTW,
ReplyDeleteIf anyone tires of seeing the likes of S.R and our new friend the Orangist, I'll be at the computer for a good part of the day, so if you want to carry on the conversation troll-free:
http://separatistliesexposed.wordpress.com/2014/02/24/essential-links-for-you-to-know-about-going-into-the-elections/
I could also use your help in compiling links that will help undecided voters why the PQ is the worst possible option.
Interesting article in today's Citizen. They are finally taking notice of this racist, bigoted, dangerous bunch of creeps that are currently in charge of our province:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.ottawacitizen.com/life/ugly+nationalism/9564854/story.html
@Editor
ReplyDeleteJust a suggestion for a future posting:
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Open+Data+sees+more+government+transparency/9564644/story.html
This should have been the front page story today, but it wasn't, relegated to A4 of The Gazette, sometimes I think media stand for mediocrity. In any event, hope you consider it.
@montreal ville-état
ReplyDelete"The legitimate contributors to this blog never bring up that individual's name. No one condones what he did,..."
that's false. the most prolific contributor here, cebeuq, routinely praises bain. should i conclude you don't read cebeuq's comments? don't you agree with him? if not, why do you never confront him?
Big Boots
ReplyDeleteTo all the Francos , No matter how much you deny it, you know it and everyone knows it, you need English to succeed. You pretend to want to create your French utopia, but you just want to change the definition of success. Quebec culture, literature, French language blah blah blah. You are not special. You want to exclude "others" to have your own special chosen people. And then what? What happens when you will realize you can't stand yourself? There will come a day when Quebecers will curse when they say the name Marois. Poverty, no hope and corruption, nothing will change with separation, except you will have no one to blame but yourselves.
Greetings from Alberta
BS Brainwash from alberta
DeleteGreat post Alberta...love it...lol
DeleteTo all those following the story on the lady from Chelsea:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.ottawacitizen.com/technology/Virtual+petition+backs+Chelsea+store+Facebook+language+showdown/9565086/story.html
Yes, plus the fact that they chose the article as one where there was no space for making comments. Guess they thought if people starting commenting, it would crash their website. The guy should have been published in one of the separatist newspapers but not the Gazette considering it's the only one that I've seen in Montreal that gives the federalists at least a fighting chance to comment on anything even related to us as a community.
ReplyDeleteBig Boots
ReplyDeleteAt least there are brains to be washed.
Press 0
Perquisition de l'UPAC chez l'ex-ministre libéral Marc-Yvan Côté
ReplyDeletehttp://www.lapresse.ca/le-soleil/actualites/justice-et-faits-divers/201402/27/01-4743299-perquisition-de-lupac-chez-lex-ministre-liberal-marc-yvan-cote.php
Un "lib"...Encore
By AnecTOTE
DeleteOh who cares 'bout the Libs....yesterday's news. We want to know when The Leader of the PQ and hubby dearest will appear before the Charbonneau commission to explain? We wouldn't want to miss her getting grilled like Rambo, (do they know each other?) OR will she sneak out the back door by calling an election to avoid Mme La Juge? Tell us about that. Lol.
@montréal ville-état
Delete"Oh who cares 'bout the Libs..."
cutie003 does. you think she's wrong?
"We want to know when The Leader of the PQ and hubby dearest will appear before the Charbonneau commission to explain?"
never. why would she? explain what? i think it may be useful to remind you that the charbonneau commission deals with corruption in the construction industry and political parties fundraising. it's not a public scaffold. medieval era is over mate.
"We wouldn't want to miss her getting grilled like Rambo..."
rambo did not get grilled at all. he came out of it a hero.
" OR will she sneak out the back door by calling an election to avoid Mme La Juge?"
dude you are totally confused between the charbonneau commission and a parliementary commission. not the same. you've been riding on this rookie error for weeks now. you don't look very smart mate.
By AnecTOTE
Delete"Thou protests too much" lol Especially when we have something to hide..lololol.
I call FRONT SEAT! LOL ...Popcorn please....
Bring in the clowns.
A classic opener from "Big Boots" : "To all the francos..." Great. Unfortunately, that could be the ham radio call sign for too many of the recent "anglo" comments on this blog. Well, TO ALL THE ANGLOS, can't you folks tone down your generalisations about "francos" and "anglos" ? Everyone is entitled to an opinion - but not all opinions have equal value. I am just a solitary reader of this blog but recently there seems to be a lot of mindless, ignorant ethnic gibberish on the part of a few demented "anglos" in the comments section. But Hey ! you are not alone out there. I also read Vigile. You have your "franco" counterparts. And they are equally self righteous. Permit me to make a very simple point : when a single sovereignist, (for example B Drainville) who happens to be a "franco" says something that is extremely stupid etc. they are not suddenly speaking for, or representative of, all "francos". And when one of the anglo francophobes who inhabit this blog writes something extremely stupid (an hourly occurrence) they are not speaking for anglo Quebecers or the "ROC". Some of you regulars should engage your brain before you start to type. STOP generalizing. STOP your ignorant ethnicism. If you are against a government policy make the effort to address it on its merits rather than defaulting to 'English good...French bad...duhhh'
DeleteOk, lecture over, I feel better. Re our crusading Editor's blog : what if the PQ calls an election and wins and then we are stuck with these third rate people continuing to govern by trying to regulate our behaviour, our hats etc. vs. THE ECONOMY ? What will happen ? Will there be a referendum ?
Here is the long sought after answer : very little of consequence will happen. Quebec will not separate. Yes, identity politics will rule. But, who is surprised ? Haven't these PQ dweebs already demonstrated what makes them tick. They are Quebec's Tea Party. The Creditistes risen from the dead. We are still part of Canada. In about 2018 the Supreme Court of Canada will explain why the "charter of values" is illegal and on and on. And remember, despite all the wacky bravado on this blog none of us have any power except our single vote. Here is some free advice to all you "anglo" neurotics : just sit back and watch democracy do its imperfect work. If the PQ win the pending election the wave of sovereignty may wash a little further up the beach, for a few years, and then it will recede. And the 2015 + wave will never wash as far up the beach as it did in 1995 or 1980. PQ win - or lose ? Whatever. The sovereignty movement is dying as the PQ boomers, the true believers, die. But they are not losers simply because they are "francos" and Canada will not continue because a majority of its citizens are "anglos". Rather, good policy, the economy, and common sense will guide the way. You see, sovereignty and ethnic nationalism are bad ideas. A substantial majority of Quebecers get this loud and clear (although this may not include "Press 9") So dear friends - please relax and enjoy the drama of a Quebec election - coming soon to a theatre near you. Bad ideas always lose even though it can take decades for the final verdict to emerge. Keep on blogging in the free world..
@sandy mctire
Delete"And when one of the anglo francophobes who inhabit this blog writes something extremely stupid (an hourly occurrence)..."
are you thinking cutie003, montreal ville-état, sylvain raciste, durham, apple iigs, ed, lord dorchester, theo, troy and sauga too? i'm with you mate.
"You see, sovereignty and ethnic nationalism are bad ideas."
that's a bold statement. why is sovereignty a bad idea?!?
By AnecTOTE
DeleteGimme a break Sandy..words are all we got and I'm perfectly happy using them if it gets people to believe Montreal can be independent and break free from this dysfunctional relationship she's had to endure with the roq who has done nothing but used and abused, pillaged and ransacked her for decades now, (and sabotaged her mercilessly) and guess what, people don't think it's such a foreign idea anymore. Have you read the papers lately? You see it in print: Montreal city-state, it's everywhere, and it's catching on... Just rhetoric you say? Well Rhetoric is King, and by golly, for once, we'll wear the crown.
Now bring in the clowns ..DAMMITTT...lol ....(I think I hear Sinatra in the background) lol
Student, I regret that it is late, and I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain the history of Canada (including Quebec) to you. I have to leave it to your teachers, if you study history. But I do like a young person who wants to learn "bold" ideas. So I will give you a hint as to where you might find the path to more knowledge.
DeleteYou see...sovereignty is essentially ethno/cultural nationalism. These are old concepts from an earlier age. These ideas have not and do not work in modern Canada notwithstanding some of the wacky comments to this blog or what we read on Vigile. The majority of Canadian citizens, including Quebecers, get this and vote accordingly. We are all quite committed it seems - francos and anglos alike - to civic nationalism rather than ethnic nationalism. The facts speak for themselves. The independence of Quebec from Canada has not been achieved. And it is, contrary to the nationalist myths, an idea with a short history. Its 1960s -1970s power and fervent emotion continue to wane. Now, there are many objective reasons why it is a bad idea but the most convincing reason, for those of you who find the workings of advanced democracies interesting, is that it is a losing idea. The folks who want Quebec to separate can't get enough votes to make it happen! In the marketplace of ideas some win, some lose. They have tried very hard since the 60s but sovereignty is a loser = a bad idea = realpolitik. Student, I hope that helps. You know, I was a student once. Good luck on your midterms!
AnecTote, ok, take a break - but just until tomorrow when the words will continue.
DeleteI have no problem with debate but these idiots who shout YOUR MOTHER WEARS ARMY BOOTS BECAUSE SHE SPEAKS FRENCH do try my patience. One or two of them might have something useful to say if they didn't continually destroy their credibility with their 'English good...French bad/ Canada good...Quebec bad' gibberish.
As for Montreal as a City State I think it already is just that. And imagine if the boundaries of electoral districts across Quebec were adjusted to equalize the number of voters per district ? Montreal uber alles. But quite honestly, and with respect, I don't spend any time on utopian ideas about Montreal's status. We can't even figure out how to effectively amalgamate Montreal and run it like a modern city so one step at a time. We have to walk before we run. But keep polishing that crown. We all have to dream.
@sandy mctire
Delete"the most convincing reason, (...), is that it is a losing idea. The folks who want Quebec to separate can't get enough votes to make it happen!"
don't you think it's a bit reckless to claim such a thing when the separatist government is on the verge of an electoral sweep and that support for separation as shown by polls is higher than prior to 1995 referendum?
also, you are probably aware that most francophones who's vote against separation are nationalists who are not confident enough about quebec's post-independance economic health to risk it. nothing to do with "civic nationalism", what the hell is this anyways? care to share another bit?
p.s. i appreciate your efforts to shut montreal ville-état. if just for one day he could spare our blog i'd be a blessing. hopefully you have some kind of influence on him.
The bums will have to follow Clarity Act Rules whether they like it or not or risk non-acceptance by others in the free world. As far as I'm concerned I hope they go out quickly but better know were're not all going with them. Take a look at Ukraine this morning and picture quebec should they not think twice about not following the rule of law. Without the rule of law anarchy ensues and then there is going to be complete chaos if they think they are walking away with our land without a fight. I hope the shitheads are ready for it because that's what they're bringing down on their heads. Dumb ass separatists - think they can walk all over us but I have news for them. Canadians are not cowards and didn't hide in the woods when the crunch came down and we won't be hiding anytime soon. Hateful, nasty pricks.
Delete"...will have to follow Clarity Act Rules..."
DeleteNous ne suivons que nos propres règles peggie...Vous devriez le savoir.
"The folks who want Quebec to separate can't get enough votes to make it happen!"
DeleteCe qui compte ce n'est pas l'appui conjoncturel à l'indépendance, qui oscille autour de 40% depuis quelques années, mais bien de s'identifier comme Québécois ou Canadien lorsque la question référendaire est posée suite à un débat.
Selon Jean-François Lisée, en 1980 37% des francophones se disaient Québécois d'abord ou exclusivement. Le reste se disait Canadien ou Canadien français. Résultat du référendum: 40% Oui, 60% Non.
En 1995, 60% des francophones se disaient Québécois d'abord ou exclusivement. Le reste se disait Canadien ou Canadien français. Résultat du référendum: 60% des francos ont voté Oui. Pour un résultat global de 50%.
En 2013, 70% des francophones se disaient Québécois d'abord ou exclusivement. Donc logiquement lors du prochain référendum les francos devraient voter Oui à hauteur de 70%. Ce qui est assez pour donner un référendum gagnant à au moins 55%. héhé!
by AnecTOTE
Delete'p.s. i appreciate your efforts to shut montreal ville-état. if just for one day he could spare our blog i'd be a blessing. hopefully you have some kind of influence on him."
Lovelyyyy….Yes, lol, YOU and those of your ilk would love to shut "HIM" down, wouldn't you? I wonder why you would want to shut "HIM" down? Is it because HE's being most effective at torpedoing your false 'quebec' brand messaging? Is it because HE tells the Truth and you don't? Is it because HE reveals realities about the "quebec" brand you would rather remain hidden from those visiting this blog beyond your little quebec border?
Trolling HIM the way you do around this blog and hanging on HIS every word only proves what HE posts carries weight for you and those running your little engine!!!
Well folks, IT IS a machine lololol, I'm so flattered IT wants to shut me down!!! Made my day actually…Made my day!!!!!
ps…Apologies Editor…didn't want to make it about ME ME ME lololololol…
OKAY BACK TO how the boundaries of electoral districts across Quebec not being proportionately reflective of the number of voters per district (Thank you Sandy, as usual, you're a class act). THAT SHOULD BE FRONT PAGE NEWS THIS WEEK!!!! A little appetizer for those going to vote on the fast approaching...Election day! EVERY VOTE COUNTS
Partie de la définition de l'hystérie :
DeleteCrises émotionnelles avec théâtralisme
by AnecTOTE
DeleteNow now s.r. between you and student trolling me like this, I'm OVERflattered, but let's stick to subject at hand, the one you and the other trolls don't like to talk about:
The boundaries of electoral districts across quebec not being proportionately reflective of the number of voters per district.
Why would doesn't this get rectified? In 2014 no less.
Why doesn't it get rectified before the next election?
Isn't it dishonest and manipulative of the PQ to call an election without rectifying this problem.. of districts not being proportionately relective of the number of voters per district?
Defending that 'quebec' brand is become a BITCH, isn't it? LOL
Vous êtes pessimiste,restez positive...Vous n'avez pas encore perdu.
DeleteBy AnecTOTE
DeleteLikewise honey, likewise!,, lol
How 'bout that disproportionate representation in districts across the province eh?
@mtl1973
Deletemate following the very good suggestion you made earlier you have to translate this above comment from cutie003 and post it on journal de montreal blogs. it is so objective and intelligent separatists will have to acknowledge cutie003 as the intellectual leader that she is and realize they are "dumb ass shithead coward nasty prick bums". no doubt it will open their minds to what's around them.
@press 9
Deleteyes you're right. hysteria. it must be scary to realize you can't tell the difference between real life and jokes. enough to lose it in my humble opinion.
@montreal ville-état
"YOU and those of your ilk would love to shut "HIM" down, wouldn't you?"
of course. dung slinging is not constructive. so i agree with sandy mctire; you should take a break.
By AnecTOTE
DeleteTruth telling has become dung slinging, lololol. Love it!!
Well how else would you justify popo avoiding the truth about this?
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/promises+hound+Marois+over+Blanchet+deal+during+election/9546236/story.html
The CAQ has vowed to hammer this home before the next election. Let's hope Monsieur Legault keeps his word.
Ps: (word to the unwise.. but what the heck..) The more you come after me, the greater opportunity you provide to highlight the inefficiencies of the "quebec" brand. Now run along and go convey that to those pulling your stings at the back end.
Smiles..lol
Ce sont les dernières élections pour la CAQ ,en tout cas, pour Legault.
Delete@press 9
Deletecould also be the last elections in the canadian province of quebec.
Quelqu'un a vu des turbans ou des hijabs aux Olympiques ?
ReplyDeleteUm, yeah...
Deletehttp://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/culture_test/fixler_indiafh_post.jpg
And...
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Shall I go on...?
Ce ne sont pas des photos prisent lors de jeux Olympiques.
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DeleteÇa devrait être interdit.
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ReplyDeleteWho even uses the word “Orangist” in 2014, anyway? Radical anglophobic separatist fanatics like Sylvain Racine (S.R.), that’s who. And nobody cares about the opinion of those Communards who are stuck living in the past anyway.
ReplyDeleteSee his previous fanatical comments here:
http://nodogsoranglophones.blogspot.ca/2013/01/quebec-equality-party-re-forming.html?showComment=1358818652888#c1809438605999423368
"Who even uses the word 'Orangist' in 2014, anyway?"
DeleteProbably the kind of dope who thinks English-speaking Quebeckers call each other "mate."
@ Cutie: I know people at the Gazette, and I can tell you the paper has a policy of not allowing comments on certain issues -- the language conflict among them. But someone in the newsroom also has to "open" the comments so people can reply, and sometimes that person just forgets to hit the right button.
ReplyDeleteThank you for the info. I don't know why they would not allow comments on the language conflict when this is what half the population talk about all the time. It's certainly newsworthy when some of these language militants make the stupid statements they do and then the Gazette doesn't provide a forum for discussion of same stupid comments. Anyway, as I have no say in what these papers do and do not do, all I can do is write them a letter and tell them how I feel about it I guess. We certainly do have select journalism in this province and no legitimate democracy. Gets worse all the time.
ReplyDeleteUnfair elections in Quebec:
ReplyDeleteI took the population figures form the 2006 census and cross-referenced them against the population by electoral riding in Quebec. On average the are 60,369 residents per riding so the distribution should follow closely. Please have a look at the actual results:
10 least populous
Riding Party Population Relative to avg
Îles-de-la-Madeleine PQ 13,091 21.7%
Gaspé PQ 38,154 63.2%
Ungava PQ 39,817 66.0%
Abitibi-Est PQ 42,640 70.6%
Bonaventure PQ 43,091 71.4%
Saint-Maurice PQ 44,530 73.8%
Abitibi-Ouest PQ 45,067 74.7%
René-Lévesque PQ 45,355 75.1%
Laviolette PLQ 46,181 76.5%
Portneuf CAQ 46,507 77.0%
10 most populous
Riding Party Population Relative to avg
Groulx CAQ 72,410 119.9%
Saint-Henri–Sainte-Anne PLQ 73,674 122.0%
Acadie PLQ 74,574 123.5%
Laurier-Dorion PLQ 74,674 123.7%
Mont-Royal PLQ 75,116 124.4%
Marguerite-Bourgeoys PLQ 75,244 124.6%
Robert-Baldwin PLQ 75,834 125.6%
Nelligan PLQ 76,750 127.1%
Bourassa-Sauvé PLQ 77,497 128.4%
Saint-Laurent PLQ 78,792 130.5%
These distributions actually violate Quebec's own electoral law.
Just added a new link to the listing page. Folks, the elections WILL be called this week.
ReplyDeleteLet's compile the longest list in history of the many faults and follies the PQ has committed in it's short tenure:
http://separatistliesexposed.wordpress.com/2014/02/24/essential-links-for-you-to-know-about-going-into-the-elections/
I will try to get this spread out to the French media as well.
Maybe you can use some of this ABSA:
ReplyDeletehttp://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2014/02/26/national-post-editorial-board-quebecs-identity-crisis-du-jour/
Oooooooohhhh hohohohohohohoho!!!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/politique/politique-quebecoise/201403/02/01-4743849-la-soeur-de-francoise-david-candidate-pour-les-liberaux.php
Raymond Bachand au service du Fonds FTQ
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Les voies de la politique sont impénétrables.
@MTL 1973, thanks for those figures on voters per electoral districts. Very telling but regrettably we are stuck with them for now because the last government didn't have the courage to address the problem.
Delete@Student, you will have to beef up your research skills if you ever want to graduate. For an intro to "nationalisme civique" try googling those 2 words with "Bernard Landry" who is a former spokesperson for civic nationalists. That is, between his tantrums directed at new immigrants who won't let Quebecers have "their" country. And I'm afraid I don't have a reckless bone in my body. I prefer facts. They don't let you down as often as uninformed opinion. The PQ may win this pending election. They will not get a "sweep". And they won't call a referendum they can't win. Therefore, they won't call a referendum. Write this down, Student, and we'll compare notes in 4 years. A lot can happen in 4 years. Who knows - you may even graduate by then. Just in time to get a high paying job in that new cement plant the PQ will build in Gaspe !
And @YL, thanks for sharing another brilliant insight by J F Lisee about the key to a winning referendum. Wow ! They should make Lisee the honorary president of "Intellectuals for Sovereignty". But seriously, Y.L., we wicked Anglos have an old saying : In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is King. Just ask yourself ... where do I fit in here?
Enjoy your Sunday afternoon folks.
@sandy mctire
Delete"For an intro to "nationalisme civique" try googling..."
i know wat google is, thanks. i wanted to know what your interpretation was. you know, not to assume things that may not be. so, what is it? and don't you agree a big majority of french canadians would vote yes if they didn't worry about independant quebec's economic viability? of course you do; how does this safe speculation fit with your claim that cultural nationalism is dead?
"I prefer facts."
well fact is pq is on its way to a majority, and fact is support for quebec's independance is higher than what it was prior to last referendum. you know how that ended. so how is claiming "they can't get the votes" not reckless in this context?
and by the way in your reply to y.l, you never addressed the argument, you only took shots at both lisée and y-l. cheap stuff mate.
Reading the different comments today, I noticed a few of you have already handed over the election to the PQ. We haven't even had an announcement yet, or even the election itself. Aren't we jinxing it a bit? For the PQ I mean.
ReplyDelete-Virgil