Monday, February 10, 2014

Anglicization?.. A Lesson in Faulty Logic

The Sky is falling, The Sky is falling!
Many years ago McGill University instituted a policy of allowing francophone students to submit papers and take exams in their native French.
The onus is put upon professors and T/As to make a 'reasonable accommodation' (Ha!) to those French students who are capable of taking classes in English, but lack the commensurate writing skills.
The policy has been wildly successful, allowing those French students so inclined to earn a valuable university degree from Canada's most venerated institution.
McGill today boasts that somewhere in the vicinity of 20% of its students are francophones.

For French language militants and PQ ministers like Jean-François Lisée, it's not a situation conducive to promoting the French language, rather the opposite. They believe that allowing francophones to attend an English institution of higher learning under favourable circumstances, ultimately leads to French graduates working and perhaps marrying in English, an inexorable march towards assimilation.

The argument is made because of the very real correlation between the higher assimilation rate for Francophones who graduated from English cegep or university. So for low-brow hysterics like Mario Beaulieu or Jean-Paul Perreault, it's simple proof that English cegep or university is dangerous for the survival of Quebec's francophone majority.

Even those who should know better, publish similarly biased views when there is an agenda to be promoted, like the deceptively named Institut de recherche sur le français en Amérique, a virtual separatist think tank with as much credibility as the Institute of Hair Replacement.
"For francophones who attend English college, French is  used less  when shopping, at work and among friends," explained the president of the IRFA, Patrick Sabourin. Link{fr}
It is always dangerous when academics or scientists use their talents to confirm preconceived notions or try to prove an agenda, like tobacco company scientists who maintained for decades that there was no link between their product and cancer.

Of course the academically challenged public is easy to dazzle with such simple conclusions, the  scientific relationship between  correlation and  causation of little import with those determined to deceive.
  
The fact that more francophones who graduate from English institutes of higher education, get a job in English, than those francophones who attend a French school, doesn't necessarily mean that the school caused them to do so. 

I can best demonstrate the principle that correlation does not imply causation with some brief examples.

Some insurance companies offer a discount to owners who equip their homes with fire extinguishers, not because the extinguishers prevent or limit the effect of a fire significantly, but rather because these homeowners are inherently more safety conscious and suffer less fires.

But sometimes causation can clearly be linked to correlation, for example in buildings that are outfitted with sprinklers and those that are not.
Statistics bear out that regardless of staff training, the age of a building, or the type of residents, sprinklered buildings save lives. In this case there is ample evidence of causation.

Let me offer a final example, perhaps easier to understand, the fact that people who voluntarily take a CPR course, live longer and healthier lives than those who do not.
Yet 99% of these people never use the training in a real life situation, so we cannot by any stretch of the imagination say that the CPR training itself can cause you to live longer.
But people who voluntarily take CPR live longer because they are clearly motivated to be pro-active about health issues.

Francophones who go to English schools assimilate more readily because that is the track that they were on to begin with, after all they learned English as a second language, long before they even started school.

Understanding cause and effect is a complicated issue, so it's easy to arrive at a false conclusion if one is so inclined;
"It has been proven that all heroin addicts smoked marijuana in their youth. Therefore, smoking marijuana leads to heroin addiction." 
Post hoc, ergo propter hoc. ("After this, therefore because of this.")
Heroin addicts probably really started on mother's milk; does it lead to heroin?
Other examples:
"The cock crows, then the sun comes up, therefore the cock is responsible for raising the sun every morning"
"Francophones who go to English university are more likely to be assimilated, therefore English universities are responsible for their assimilation."
At any rate for an entirely entertaining and easy to understand, one page course in faulty logic. GO HERE

And so, French language militants, have developed a certain expertise in interpreting or twisting any fact or figure to prove the premise that French is under attack and in dire straights.

Not convinced?

If militants conclude that allowing French students to attend English university under favourable language conditions is an important element in their anglicization, why do they arrive at the complete and opposite conclusion for Anglophones attending French universities under similar language accommodations?

Recently we were treated to more hysterical predictions of gloom and doom by militants who claim that the handful of English students who are given language accommodations in French universities are anglicizing the schools, instead of being francisized themselves, the opposite of what happens when the shoe is on the other foot.

I can just imagine the contortions and twist of logic that those so inclined to disagree will formulate in offering a counter-argument.
No doubt it will be that the rules apply differently to English and French, the old standby, when all else fails.

And so, the University of Montreal is in danger of becoming anglicized because a handful of Anglo students are given a language accommodation, while the 20% of Francophone students at McGill have no effect on francisizing McGill, but in fact get anglicized themselves.

In  considering the 'facts' presented by so-called experts, it is useful to consider the source, after all would you blindly take on faith anything oil industry scientists tell us about the oil sands?
Would you automatically believe experts hired by the asbestos industry who claim that their product if properly used is non-toxic?

I am reminded of the baseball anecdote wherein a batter hit an infield fly and the third baseman and the catcher converged on the ball.
The catcher called for the ball by screaming;"I got it! I got it!, but the third baseman stepped in front of him and promptly dropped the ball.
As the catcher returned to his position behind home plate, visibly seething, the opposing on-deck batter tells him ;
"Hey, he had to consider the source."

Premier Pauline Marois recently served us up a textbook demonstration in faulty logic in a speech she made in Trois Rivieres.
"The Prime Minister argued that she was ready to allow Quebecers to choose between  "prosperity" and the economic measures she proposes, and "austerity" proposed by the CAQ and the Liberal Party, which want to return to the balanced budget more quickly."
 Madame Marois actually hits a bullseye in faulty logic by employing the famous Either/Or debate as demonstrated neatly in the comic below;


Is there any faultier use of logic than the assertion that the Crucifix in the National Assembly is not a religious article because it is a heritage item ?

In Quebec as elsewhere, anything can be argued away, where black can be argued as white and where in the end, it is the propaganda campaign attached to a debate that either wins or loses the day....seldom the facts.

266 comments:

  1. Le Québec est présentement en 2 ème place aux Olympiques.

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    1. Tiens donc, un nouveau pays sans doute? Qui l'a diplomatiquement reconnue? L'Iran, le Zimbabwe et la Coree du nord je suppose? Cuistre va!

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    2. Drunk Guy Rene Levesque KilledMonday, February 10, 2014 at 4:15:00 PM EST

      Funny I didn't see any Fleur de Lys flags, only proud Canadians waving the Maple leaf.

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    3. Voyez-vous beaucoup de drapeaux canadiens au Québec.

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    4. I feel that you have much hatred inside of you S.R, I pity you very much.

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    5. @alain dubois

      Just let him have his fun. Just yesterday he was saying that athletes are just dumb jocks who will never amount to anything outside of sports and will not even serve as a footnote in history. He said that because his argument was being badly beaten.

      Now that he's forgotten about yesterday (he only lives in the present), athletes are cool and heroic again.

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    6. "athletes are cool and heroic again."

      Pouvez-vous m'indiquer à quel endroit j'ai écrit ça ?

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    7. Who needs bilingiual. English is right, french is wrong. from anonymaus.

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    8. @Press 9 (aka S.R)

      S.R - Sunday, February 9, 2014 at 2:37:00 PM EST

      Aviez-vous remarqué que les sportifs sont rarement des intellectuels et n'ont souvent que très peu de culture ?
      Voilà les raisons pour lesquelles ils ne seront que des statistiques dans le royaume du sport,lorseque nous aurons oublié leur nom.

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    9. It’s another good example of faulty logic by a frustrated separatist, purposefully ignoring that Quebecers benefit from participating in Canada’s “Own The Podium” program, and that the competitions that tend to attract Western athletes haven’t even started yet.

      It is indeed a sad, petty life that he has chosen by desperately needing to grasp at straws like this to have a feeling of self-worth.

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    10. Pouvez-vous m'indiquer à quel endroit j'ai écrit ça ? : "athletes are cool and heroic again."

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    11. You truly are a fucking retard, which we already know. Do you not see what a contradictory you are?

      I just proved to you that you said one thing just yesterday and now today you're saying completely the other thing.

      One minute 'les sportifs' are just a bunch of meatheads, but now that a few francophones are winning, your totally going apeshit. Your fucking pathetic.

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    12. Prise 2 : Pouvez-vous m'indiquer à quel endroit j'ai écrit ça : "athletes are cool and heroic" ?

      Mdr! Racisto s'énerve haha!

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    13. Thank God the PQ has people like you in it's voter base.

      So tell us sr, have you won a gold medal for getting all five of your sisters pregnant?

      Or maybe a silver medal in poutine-eating.

      I'm sure your family must view that as quite an accomplishment.

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    14. M.Raciste

      Petite leçon de français pour les nuls:

      Si j'écris : Il pleut sur Montréal ( 2 ème ville francophone au monde )

      Est-que vous arrivez à la conclusion que j'aime la pluie et le mauvais temps ?

      Vous ne devriez pas car ce n'est qu'une constatation.

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    15. Yeah...about that...

      True story:

      During a conference call this afternoon with a bunch of colleagues from different offices, one guy who works in Gatineau started bragging how all the Gold medals for Canada so far.. have been won by athletes from this province. Without missing a beat..another guy from out in Edmonton, in a joking but highly sarcastic tone replies: "bout time quebec does it's part for Canada, considering we feed it abundantly with transfer payments and keep it from crashing and burning. Nice to finally see it bringing us 'some' glory, if it's all you guys can manage, heck..I'll take it". Which was pretty much..a slam-dunk, in terms of a come-back...then it got super Awkward and since I was hosting the meeting, I did an immediate 'about-face' and got right into the agenda for the call. Pretty sure that's how much of the RoC feels about it.

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    16. @go team canada

      edmonton dude managed to turn innocent small talk about the olympics into an awkward political statement. what a dick. are all your colleagues shit are is this guy an exception?

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    17. @sylvain raciste

      please pull yourself together mate. i understand you're attracted to vulgarity but please respect the editor's work and stop being you while you're here.

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    18. Sylvain Raciste est très émotif ces temps-ci,je crois qu'il couve quelque chose,un rhume de cerveau peut-être :)

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    19. @AnecTOTE

      Could you please send your guy in Edmonton a high-five on my part. Brilliant way to shoot down the separatist's desperate groupthink approach to validation.

      For the time being, the seps have a far bigger issue to contend with - Parizeau blasted the sovereignist's lack of economic management.

      You know what I find funny about Parizeau is that as he gets older, he's making his peace with the fact that he will not see an independent Quebec in his lifetime and is actually become more open and reasonable.

      Unfortunately, only the opposite can be said about Bernard Landry, who will also pass on without seeing an independent Quebec and as a result is becoming meaner and meaner by the day.

      Weird how two old-time colleagues can go in such different directions.

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    20. As separatists are wont to do by sneakily inserting “nous” into their slogans and arguments, they also subtly imply that Quebec would have the same result if it were an independent country, conveniently ignoring that many, if not most, of the Quebec competitors would not want to compete for a small, poor New Quebec.

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    21. @student

      J'ai tendance à douter de la véracité des commentaires qui commencent par : "True storie" ...Just saying

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    22. "Who needs bilingiual. English is right, french is wrong. from anonymaus."

      Yet, you can't even spell anonymous... I hope other readers won't give you a free pass...

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    23. By AnecTOTE

      @AC

      First chance I get, lol

      @s.r

      Yesterday you called the athletes retards and basically worthless. Today you're all ...goo-goo-ga-ga, ...shitting yourself with pride, cause it's quebec winning the medals...you sound like a complete moron...just sayin'

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    24. Je n'ai jamais dit qu'ils étaient des attardés.

      Je fais seulement une distinction entre une médaille olympique et un prix Nobel :)

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    25. @press 9

      of course team canada's stories are fake. but we can't prove it so i'm not attacking it this way. i prefer to underline the countless absurdities they always contain. it's a better show for my fans.

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    26. By AnecTOTE

      "....Il pleut sur Montréal ( 2 ème ville francophone au monde )"

      Excuse me? Montreal City-State, distinctly different from the rest of this sad province, is an officially BILINGUAL City. Not sure what you're babbling about.

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    27. @go team canada

      your last comment is schizophrenic mate. are you a schizophrenic?

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    28. By AnecTOTE

      Oh my, the piece of junk just short-circuited, lolol..anytime now, it'll be a heap of junk on the floor..lol

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    29. Actually, Montreal is the world's fourth-largest officially francophone city.

      The second is Kinshasa in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and the third is Abidjan in Ivory Coast. Montreal is the second if you count only mother-tongue francophones.

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    30. Why Quebec athletes are leading the way for Canada at Sochi Games , Globe & Mail Feb 10, 2014

      http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/why-quebec-athletes-are-leading-the-way-for-canada-at-sochi-games/article16794070/

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    31. Haven't heard about Marois congratulating the Quebec athletes yet.

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    32. If I didn't know my fellow Canadians so well I would be surprised at how gracious Alberta has been for the last forty years. Everything Quebec complained about that drove the PQ since the 70s has also applied to Alberta. Maybe it's been worse for them. Imagine if an Alberta Prime Minister had devastated Quebec's economy the way the National Energy Program did to Alberta's in the early 80s. And even before that, the whole transfer payments program was passed by a Quebec Prime Minister.

      But Albertans, like the entire ROC, know that the way forward in the world is bringing people together, not separating them. Our heritage is things like Peacekeepers and Medicare and taking in more refugees than anywhere else in the world.

      Only Quebec separatists think there is any future in dividing people.

      So, yes, once in a while a guy in Alberta may be fed up with the "innocent remarks" from Quebec. Maybe if Quebec knew a little more about Alberta history it would help everyone.

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    33. Go Team Canada: Good one!

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    34. By AnecTOTE

      @Anon, if I may..

      "If I didn't know my fellow Canadians so well I would be surprised at how gracious Alberta has been for the last forty years"

      I'll tell you just how gracious, ...after the conference call was over, the guy out in Edmonton rung me right back, apologizing for his bluntness, and that the comment was for the other guy from quebec, who'd been blasting emails all morning of quebec in the medal standings instead of Canada. I explained I wasn't offended in the least. I may live, work and pay taxes in this province but it certainly isn't a source of pride for me, except of course the wonderful athletes honoring Canada at the moment in Russia, short of that, it's rather a source of embarrassment, if I have to be completely honest.

      Montreal City-State however is a different story. If this blessed city can manage to distance itself from the ball-and-chain that has been the roq which has dragged it down a a dark hole the past 40yrs, maybe it stands a chance of bouncing back to yesteryear's glory and success.

      We are cosmopolitan, we are forward-thinking, we are international, and the entire city speaks at least two languages, if not three. The truth is we have nothing in common with the solely White, French-catholic insular mentality prevalent outside the Montreal boundary...and it's time we admit this and part ways.

      We do not want to be associated with the Caron-p's of the world. Our true essence is the Dufour-Lapointe's...dynamic, modern, bilingual..smart, talented....and all-encompassing, wonderfully representative of Montreal City-State! What truly exceptional ambassadors for this city and this country. Their star is rising and deservedly so.

      To Bilodeau and Hamelin....YOU..are Giants!

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    35. FROM ED
      Actually Anonymous I can tell you a little about history. Quebec was not always a have not province. Until the sixties we fed the nation. During he dut storms of the thirties Quebec farmers sent trainloads of food to the west, much of it paid for by Canada using the high income taxes collected from the millionaires of Montreal who also built tis city.
      Thanks to the generosity of Van Horne and his friends the Railroad benefited the Western provinces more than
      others. Premier R.B.Bennet, before becoming P.M. collaborated with rich Montreal businessmen to aid his province. people like Sir.hugh Allen, and Jame McGill were generous to all Canada. The Grain board helpd the Westerners during the war and after..Montreal was the only port accepting trade from Europe and other parts of the world. Sydney N.S was the biggest harbour but didn't have the forwarding outfits available. Montreal had the railroads and trucking needed to get to the whole country. We were the richest in Canada and we shared it generously.. By the way Canada supplied the money for Alberta to develop the oil. fields. Albertans took over when it started to make money.. Alberta also benefited from the Quebecers going west in the seventies. Ed

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    36. I was one of those Quebecers in the 70s (though I came back to Montreal in '81 and didn't leave again until the 90s, but that's another story - I actually have a degree in Canadian history from Concordia). Certainly Alberta benefitted but that wasn't always the word they used ;).

      What you're describing from Van Horne (which was hardly 'generosity, it was just business - well, government mandated monopoly business) onward was what confederation was all about. I think we agree that Alberta understand that so that when things changed and they started to benefit, as you say, they didn't move to separate but started paying back in. Only the maritimes really got screwed, but that was CD Howe's fault with centralization (remember, confederation was really Upper and Lower Canada joining with the more prosperous Nova Scotia which had all that shipping money at the time. Montreal got the railroads and trucking later).

      But that's all a long time ago. What we're talking about now is how to move forward. Certainly people in Quebec have a mature enough attitude to accept a little ribbing from a guy in Alberta, that's all I'm saying.

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  2. Montreal had the chance to be something special (maybe it still does). I'm glad to see McGill still trying to be bilingual. I remember in the 1970s when CHOM FM tried to broadcast in English and French but other radio stations complained to the CRTC and the bilingualism was stopped. I often wonder what would have happened to Montreal if it had continued on its natural course towards being a fully bilingual city. Instead of what it has become; Cleveland with French signs.

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    1. Absolutely right! Montreal is going downhill quite quickly. McGill was once referred to as the Harvard of the North, now it has lost it's reputation, Montreal is just a shadow of what it once was. Quite pathetic, all the result of the separatist.

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    2. At least Cleveland has the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Drew Carey. Montreal has no HOF and aside from Céline Dion (who isn't from Montreal), we have or had Oscar Peterson, Leonard Cohen, Mordechai Richler, William Shatner, Caroline Ray and me!

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    3. What is wrong with Cleveland? There are Cleveland Indians, Browns and Cavaliers for the major leagues plus Lake Erie Monsters and Cleveland Gladiators. Granted, both Browns and Cavs suck blue balls, but the fact remains that Cleveland is good enough to have them.

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    4. I think Anonymous meant to say Detroit rather than Cleveland. Just a thought.

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    5. @Mr Sauga + Anglo-hater Felix Leclair

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  3. Samuel: The 2nd one is called Dunesbury.

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    1. This whole argument by the seppies is as old as the hills!

      In the March 17, 1989 edition of the Gazette, Claude Ryan, as education minister, stated that the early introduction of English in French schools is not in the best interest or good of the child. The kicker here is he didn't feel the same for kids in English schools being introduced to French right from Kindergarten.

      Like the article a couple of weeks ago in this blog on the ratio of billionaires to Jews, Anglophones and Francophones in the general population, this proves going back a quarter century that Jewish brains are worth $1.00, English brains $2.00 and French brains $1,000.00.

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    2. I was racking my mind trying to find the following in Oh Canada! Oh Quebec! by Mordecai Richler. I combed through the book but could not find it. Thankfully it was mentioned by an anonymous contributor almost five years ago, and based on this subject, it's very relevant here:

      Anonymous Friday, May 14, 2010 at 10:19:00 AM EDT

      In Mortechai Richler's book Oh Canada! Oh Quebec! Reed Scowen, a Quebec MNA at the time, pointed out contradicting statements made by French language zealots and an English speaking demographer. If both hypotheses were followed to their logical conclusion, the demographer stated that by some given date in the future, there would be no English speaking people left in Quebec, and the French language zealots stated everybody in Quebec would be speaking English.

      So much for reconciliation and accurate statistics, and the two clowns shown above are chronic, blatant liars when it comes to statistics.

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  4. God this PQ government has more nerve than Dick Tracy:

    http://www.cjad.com/cjad-news/2014/02/10/quebec-warns-feds-about-budget

    If they think they can push Harper's government around with their BS I'm afraid they're in for a lot of disappointment. Again, blaming all their woes on the ROC - as if.

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    1. From Ann
      There is also another article where in response to Parizeau Lisée is blaming the Liberals for the fiscal mess. The PQ sounds like teenagers "It's not fair", "You're not fair", "Canada hates us", "Stop picking on us", "It's all your fault", "I didn't do anything wrong", "I hate you", "I am running away and you can't stop me", "I want money", "You never do anything for me", "You always treat the other provinces better than me". Have I exhausted all the classic teenager angst!

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    2. @ann

      "Have I exhausted all the classic teenager angst!"

      it appears you have. ready for a grown up discussion now ann?

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    3. FROM ED
      Ann, you left out. "Why should I put out the garbage. I don't create any garbage, you're the one does all the cooking. "
      Editor, I have no interest in this discusion. Lang uage will happen by natural assimilation. It will all come together by itself. Ubder the Liberals of course. Ed

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  5. Un député libéral concède la victoire au PQ aux prochaines élections

    http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/politique/politique-quebecoise/201402/10/01-4737504-un-depute-liberal-concede-la-victoire-au-pq-aux-prochaines-elections.php

    C'est son chef qui doit être fier...Misère.

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  6. Another hair brained scheme by the PQ and proposed tax increases which I'm sure we can happily handle with all the money we have:

    http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Quebec+transfer+billion+from+roadwork+budget+transit+maintenance+2020/9491462/story.html?utm_content=buffere383b&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

    If they would collect the money back from the crooks that have let the roads fall apart, there would be enough to handle these problems and we'd have lots left over. When pigs fly I guess.

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    1. Maybe this guy has a point - Get it to hell over with so we can move on!

      http://cornwallfreenews.com/2014/02/next-quebec-election-should-be-all-or-nothing-a-pq-vote-should-be-a-mandate-by-jamie-gilcig/

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    2. "If they would collect the money back from the crooks that have let the roads fall apart..."

      good idea, but no doubt the liberals will vote against that. they don't want to give the money back.

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  7. If you're on Facebook, here's another cause to lend a hand to: Cancel Bill 60

    https://www.facebook.com/WithdrawBill60

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    1. Pour l'instant,ce qui presse pour vous cowy,c'est de renverser la vapeur en faveur des "liberals" mais l'utilisation de FB demeure une excellente idée...De dernier recours :)

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    2. Facebook?

      You think we are going to fix 100 years of francophone idiocy and ignorance with Facebook posts?

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    3. Facebook is a very small step.

      The bottom line being that it can at least connect a few people together.

      The only cure for the 100 years of Francophone idiocy is to reduce this province to ashes and rebuild again.

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    4. Yea AC - I can't see any other way out of this mess either. Let it burn, partition, then we can rebuild our new province from scratch and this time do it right. Bilingual, Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms untouched, welcome new business to operate in whatever to hell language they want to, send our kids to a bilingual school if we want and all of us start to prosper again - new province or part of an unofficial bilingual Ontario that go out of their way to welcome francophones that just want to be free of all of the quebec BS. Sounds good to me!

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  8. By AnecTOTE

    @complicated

    Read the stream of posts from previous and I wanted to share something with you actually, cause yesterday night while watching the late night news, you came to mind. There was a CAQ representative, Cohen was her name, and she said something that really resonated with me. She mentioned that all previous and current reigning provincial parties have had affiliations/affinities with quebec unions, (which are the cancer eating up this province from the inside out), and CAQ being a new party, has none of this, none of this exists. Legault really wants a chance to clean up this disgusting mess and he owes no one. You know that expression, 'Never say Never'? So yes he's a seppie, ( as far as many of us are concerned, THEY (party leaders) all are, but maybe he's (FL) the the guy that will fix the Economy. He has the Business expertise, so why shouldn't people give him a shot. When you have Financial woes, you go to the Finance specialist, you certainly don't go to a cardiologist, unless you have heart problems, plus I'd love for same cardiologist to swear on a stack of bibles that as a civilian, he never voted PQ or Bloc...rather, would love for him to take a lie-detected test. This to say, when it comes to quebec Independence...they're a slight variation of pretty much the same thing. That point is moot.

    CAQ really has a huge opportunity here to garner support. He said 10 yrs, let's see if he's a man of his word. The PLQ is pretty-much toast. And PQ...no comment.

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    1. Savie-vous que Legault a aussi comme projet d'abolir les commissions scolaires?Connaissez-vous l'impact qu'aura ce projet sur les écoles anglos du Québec si jamais il se concrétise?

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      "here was a CAQ representative, Cohen was her name, and she said something that really resonated with me. She mentioned that all previous and current reigning provincial parties have had affiliations/affinities with quebec unions, (which are the cancer eating up this province from the inside out), "
      WE know this is not true. The Unions have belonged to the PQ since 1976 Rene Levesque bought them out and gave them the power to act alone.
      When my grandson was refused welfare to go to school in 2009 the Liberals were in power. But it took our Local MNA Henri Gautrin who was deputy house leader at the time until 2011 to get him the help he needed. His parliamentary assistant told me the Unions were so strong even the reigning government could not control them. Ed

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    3. By AnecTOTE

      "Savie-vous que Legault a aussi comme projet d'abolir les commissions scolaires?Connaissez-vous l'impact qu'aura ce projet sur les écoles anglos du Québec si jamais il se concrétise?"

      Yes well aware, but right now if we don't fix the Economy, and get someone in there with a real plan..we are screwed. The End.

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    4. @go team canada.

      you need to research party leaders more. you have it wrong about francois legault he's not a finance dude he's a business dude. and there's no cardiologist running i don't know who you're ranting about here mate. a good comment involves research, analysis and writing style. you lack all three but the first two you can actually garner if you put a little effort. can you put in a little effort mate?

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    5. By AnecTOTE

      @Apple...ELIZA is on overdrive..lolol...did you happen to locate the remote control for it? OR do I just smash it to the floor and stomp on it.? Will that do the trick you think? I'm reminded of my aunt's coo coo clock, ahhh the times I wanted to rip it off the wall..lol

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    6. @go team canada

      "I'm reminded of my aunt's coo coo clock, ahhh the times I wanted to rip it off the wall.."

      yes and after you smashed it you realized time was still passing by you. same with me, violence will not solve your problem but understanding i'm part of nature will.

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    7. Anectote -

      Happy to hear you say that. I say it again..what do we have to lose in voting CAQ??? The Libs and the PQ have literally wrecked the economy over the past 40 years. We are out of time basically to fix it..Legault is the only one with business experience..what needs fixing urgently is the economy otherwise the rest is just moot. If there is a funding crisis then all the talk on language, values, health care, education is meaningless.

      The CAQ are the only ones who actually are on record saying they would tackle the unions. We all know how useless both the Libs and the PQ have been with the unions over the past 40 years..how they have racked up massive debts..cranked up the taxes. We all know how the Liberals have arrogantly taken the anglo vote without doing anything to help the anglo community. Once again..I cant see the CAQ being any worse and a significant chance they are much BETTER!

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      Anectote. Although we have crossed swords several times, I have alwys noticed that you come up with great depth in your posts. I often read you and think wow that's right. I have trouble though believing you would descend to Complicated's level. It was people like him pushing the CAQ in the last election that cost us a PQ government.
      We know the only chance for freedom we have is with the Liberals. Legault might be a genius eonomically but if he can't get elected he can do nothing. I have met Dr.Couillard personally and I can asure you he has the busines sense. He is a deeply caring person. He took my hand and looked into my eyes when he spoke and I sensed a love for human beings that is just the opposite to Marois and her hatred. He is just what we need. Please rethink your stance. Ed

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    9. @student said:" a good comment involves research, analysis and writing style. you lack all three but the first two you can actually garner if you put a little effort. can you put in a little effort mate?"
      You are a riot! You of all people presuming to talk to anyone about writing style is a complete hoot, and actually suggesting to someone that they do the research that we've never seen you do is sheer comic genius. If you ever graduate, you should change your name to 'juste pour rire'.

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    10. ED -
      You know ED we had pretty harsh words for each other at various times. But deep down I know you are a person of integrity and I respect that. I respect your care for others who are not so fortunate..you have a bigger heart than most of us here. I admire the fight in you and the spirit of never giving up.

      However I am disappointed in your tunnel vision when it comes to the Liberal party. I grant to you that they are better than the PQ..no question. But simply looking at the facts over the past 40 years or so indicate that the Liberals have failed miserably on many fronts. The debt has been increased by at least the same amount under the Liberals reign as the PQ reign..go look at the numbers if you dont believe me. In fact the PQ are the only party to actually balance the deficit in 1997 or thereabouts under Lucien Bouchard..these are facts.

      The Liberals were in power from 2003 until 2012..we all know via the Charbonneau commission that there was massive amount of corruption going on via the construction industry and implicating both the municipal and provinical governments. So either the Liberals knew what was going on and did nothing..or they didnt know what was going on which is also a sign of incompetence or both..either way a huge fail. My take on it is that this level of corruption was at a level never seen before.

      The Liberals enacted and maintained many of the illegal language laws in Quebec while pretending to be defenders of the anglophones. This is also fact.

      So we have a clear record of incompetence, mismanagement, possible criminal behavior and a certain level of contempt towards the anglo populations. If we anglos want to be taken seriously then maybe its time we call a spade a spade..this notion that we have no choice but to vote for the Liberals is sheer nonsense.

      We finally have a viable third option..the CAQ..granted they have fallen out of favout over the past 6 months but things can turn on a dime in Quebec politics. Legault was a member of the PQ and was a seperatist..who cares...he is a succesful businessman who understands how the economy works..his party is the only one on record talking about taking on the unions..about cutting waste..about a 10 year moratorium on the seperation issue. He is faer from friendly with the PQ..I suspect Mme.Marois and the PQ hate the guy and his party.

      The CAQ are the only reason the PQ did not win a majority in the last election. The CAQ were second in many more ridings than the PQ..in reality it was the stubborn Liberal vote in these ridings that prevented another 10 or so ridings moving to the CAQ which ironically would have given the win to the Liberals. I know this sounds crazy but I went riding by riding and looked at the numbers..the CAQ were far more competitive in at least 10 ridings than the Liberals..we all know that if the PQ had lost 4 more ridings then the Liberals would have won by default.

      So ED I know its hard to change your political leanings after decades of blindly supporting one party but I honestly wished you would open your eyes a little bit and look at the facts. The facts are that the only real change we will see in Quebec is an election of a third party..the Liberals and the PQ have driven this place into the ground for far too long.

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    11. Correction to my post above..
      it should read 'the CAQ were second in many more ridings than the Liberals.'

      Try and understand this..the way our first past the post system works..the CAQ were within a few hundred votes of beating the PQ in many more ridings than the Liberals were. A swing of 5 or more ridings to the CAQ would have resulted in a Liberal win..yes a Liberal win. The math is below..

      PQ - 54
      Liberals - 50
      CAQ - 19

      The CAQ was far more competivie..ie second place in at least 10 ridings..if CAQ wins 5 more of those ridings..many they lost by only a few hundred votes then we have the results below:


      PQ - 49
      Liberals -50
      CAQ - 24

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      Complicated, I am very totally involved in the Liberal Party here in the Verdun riding. As a great organizer, our man Henri Gautrin has been houseleader, deputy house leader and held office here 28 years. He is a mathmetician and physicist and brilliant thinker. Because of this Dr.Couillard has been here several times and I have beome deep into the campaign.. Why can't you get your thinking out of the past and move on. Dr.Couillard is not Charest or Johnston or Bourrassa. He has a totally new outlook on people and politics. He has much the same thinking as Paul Martin. Pay the debt and reduce taxes. He has a totally clean image which investors will go for unlike Legault who has said separation in ten years. Until he renounces that, world wide investors will not come here, they do not want to build for only a decade. A lot of investments only start to pay off in ten years. Couillard has never been part of a separatist party unlike Legault who was a member of the PQ since 1979 at age 21. At ge 24 he introduced Pauline Marois during a 1981 convention where the whole room stood to give a standing ovation to FLQ murderers. He has been a separatist for 34 years. Does this sound like someone investors would trust. Dr. Couillard refused his invitation to the order of Canada because Harper had given one to Arthur Porter who Dr.C saw throuh and turned away from/. Other men have turned provinces aroundlike Klein in Alberta; Smallwood in newfoundland.. J. B. Bennet. Couillard is certainly better educated than any of them.
      You're right that I have tunnel vision and so do you. The difference is that my tunnel vision is looking towards the future. You keep looking at the past. Move on my friend life is passing us by and it will if we sit in a rut. Ed

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    13. You really are starry-eyed when it comes to Couillard. He is really no different than any other Liberal leader. Its the party that is the problem..changing the leader doesnt change the way the party is run.

      And its very rich for you to tell me to stop looking in the past..voting Liberal is for people who are stuck in the past. The CAQ is the future..its new and refreshing. The Liberals propose the same old same old. I havent heard one Liberal leader talk about the power and corruption in the unions in Quebec - wonder why? Why arent they talking about cutting taxes and reducing the debt?

      If Couillard was such a brilliant man then why has he been hiding..he has had ample opportunity to pounce on the PQ and has blown them all. Why not work with the CAQ to grill Mme.Marois husband..why not come out with a clear and consistent stance on the charter instead of waffling for 3 months..why keep Liberals in his caucus who contradict him..why do we see so little of him.

      I have seen way more from Legault than Couillard..it seems to me the CAQ have been a much bigger thorn in the side of the PQ than the Liberals have. Its time for change..real change..not more of the same from an arrogant, incompetent party that has had decades to prove us wrong. The proof is in their record ED and your awe of Couillard frankly is naive.

      We need a businessman to fix the real problem..the economy..Couillard is not a businessman but a lifelong doctor..a smart man sure but not what Quebec needs.

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    14. I'm still laughing at "you have it wrong about francois legault he's not a finance dude he's a business dude.", putting aside the ridiculous phrasing and logical fallacy of thinking someone who runs a business knows nothing about finance (we know what area student has not been studying anywhere near of), Legault was a finance director at nationair! Then student goes onto chide others about not doing research, hilarious!

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    15. @diogenes

      "If you ever graduate, you should change your name to 'juste pour rire'."

      haha. mate that's a real funny punch. by jove so original and witty. and never heard before.

      @thatguy

      was he? ok then he probably knows finance. it's still a stretch to assume a business owner is always fince savvy. also, i think it's useless for a premier candidate to be a finance guru. he'll have a team around him won't he?

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    16. "it's still a stretch to assume a business owner is always fince savvy."
      Not really finance is one of the main pillars of business, and a business owner needs to be competent in it in order to survive...unless you want to assume everyone is terrible at their jobs and know nothing about their profession. Of course that's besides that point as Legault has never been a business owner, though he has been a finance director, an auditor, and a CEO all of which deal directly with finance. Look you just didn't do your research stop trying to dig yourself out of this one, you're going to need a much bigger shovel.

      "also, i think it's useless for a premier candidate to be a finance guru. he'll have a team around him won't he?"
      Knowing how to pay for things, raise capital, make a budget, all kind of seem like important qualities to have in a leader...lest you end up with a premier who makes decisions based on unrealistic ideology or pandering, spends way out of control, increases taxes beyond the breaking point and can't stick to a budget, maybe a couple billion outside the budget. I'd prefer a candidate with real world experience over a career politician, though some people prefer style over substance.

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    17. By AnecTOTE

      @thatguy

      It's a stupid machine...I wouldn't bother, tell it..go energizer bunny ..and be done with it.

      What's running it?.....A chess piece. Lol

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  9. To all seppies littering this blog.

    Just a (quick) history lesson.

    Do not forget that Jean Charest called the 2012 election because he thought he had it in the bag.

    Despite widespread protests against his tuition hike policies, his party sensed that public opinion ultimately favored the Liberal stance.

    We all know how that turned out.

    I see the separatist camp arrogantly riding its high-horse into battle thinking the war is won before any swords have been drawn.

    I sincerely hope more and more polls come out revealing that the PQ is ahead in the game.

    If I was the PQ, that's actually the last thing I'd want to hear.

    Especially since Couillard has dropped off the media map. Let's face it - the man isn't stupid. He's remaining silent, because he's biding his time.

    Don't understand what's going on?

    Then I recommend all federalists and separatists alike read The Art of War by Sun Tzu.

    There's nothing quite like using your enemy's arrogance to lead them into a fatal trap.

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    1. "I sincerely hope more and more polls come out revealing that the PQ is ahead in the game."

      ah. i see you matured into thinking the pq's cool. keep it up anonymous coward, maybe all is not wasted inside you after all.

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      A.C. keep in mind ther Libs lost the elerction because of false accusations of corruption which we knw now does not exist. I met Dr.Couillard at a meeting here in Verdun. He sys we will explode into action one minute afterte election is called. He intends to bring out all the economical things the PQ has done wrong or i not doing. Toward the last days before the election he will bring out how we will fix them. We don't ant to give the enemy ideas they can use too soon. We will win. Ed

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      Dr.Couillard kniws that voters have short memories they will remember what's being said last. Ed

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    4. @ed

      "Toward the last days before the election he will bring out how we will fix them."

      that's a funny one ed. please write more things like that.

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  10. Hahahahahahahahha!

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BgKFDazCEAAVnay.jpg

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    1. Except for the fact she's hideously ugly, uneducated, toothless PQ member that thousands of uneducated FTQ union idiots will vote for, what's so funny?

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  11. Rich Liberals drive cars.

    Poor seppies take the bus.

    http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Quebec+transfer+billion+from+roadwork+budget/9491462/story.html

    That's why we won;t be fixing our roads anytime soon. Pulling all the money out to support racist STM union employees.

    With the FTQ/Mafia tax on construction in Quebec it's unlikely that we will even get 100 meters of new roads per billion spent.

    We need more no show seppie crane operators to help out.

    There is no end to seppie union corruption.

    http://www.montrealgazette.com/business/years+inquiry+told/9490022/story.html

    200 useless union francophones watching 100 Germans work.

    Typical Quebec project for francophone to be proud of.

    Why does the average Quebec union worker never complain about his union?

    Quebec values don;t allow independent thinking.

    What Pauline thinks all francophones must think.

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    1. By AnecTOTE

      @cebeuq

      With any luck the others, and especially CAQ will focus in and shine a huge bright light on PQ sublime incompetence. Popo is preoccupied with saving her hubby since he is alleged to be colluding with a quebec union, if Francois L. Is smart he'll milk this for all it's worth...nothing would give us greater satisfaction than to see this useless government crushed and kicked to the curb. It has made a mockery of this province's political office. Rather than governing and finding solutions to the...serious economic problems that haunt us...they pull out a cardboard with drawings of clothing, and what accessories are considered acceptable in their racist bigoted milieu. Even a U of M representative said it like it is, also a Doctor, he admits " I would not prescribe medication to a patient who is not sick". The charter is the medication he would not prescribe. It was truly amusing witnessing drainville's face turn red and then purple during that hearing session.

      FIX THE ECONOMY...stop f...around with nonsense. This is your chance CAQ...go slam 'em.

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    2. "...if Francois L. Is smart..."

      Il l'est certainement mais n'a aucun talent pour le communiquer,idem pour Couillard.

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    3. By AnecTOTE

      Yes and popo is lucky she has that serpent of the minister for Anglo-Montreal as a mouthpiece, cause let me tell you, listening to her is like nails on a chalkboard...the most irritating sound ever invented. She has even less talent then the other two. AND don't even get me started on ALL the other pq ministers ..pahleeeeese. Where's that Maltais recording again? Cause..oh boy...she's just a bevy of chatty talent alright.

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      Cebeuq right on. By importing crane operator they are also admitting that separatists are not smart enough to learn how. Ed

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  12. How dare you sir, to post my photograph with that cad Mario Beaulieu! I look quite dreadful....hideous, monstrous!

    At least allow me to display my proper and respected visage under more amicable lighting conditions
    http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111130161018/muppet/images/6/6f/Uncle_deadly_interview.jpg

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  13. By AnecTOTE

    The Fed's are releasing their Budget today, but what WE want to know is ...where's the PQ's Budget.

    After 17 months in office they've managed to fix nothing but rather break quite a few things. Now there is rumor of an early election. So if we are to understand this, they have screwed around for an entire year and a half, twiddled their thumbs and causing havoc ON OUR DIME and playing us by introducing a divisive charter which was just a dumb excuse to distract and divide us since they will call an election before it is ever tabled at the National Assembly, and if they do end up calling an election, it is proof positive, that bill 60... was nothing but..Sound and Fury signifying Bull Crap, ...to play the electorate. I hope people realize this and are outraged by it. I hope they remember how little this government thinks of them...literally and figuratively, when we go to the polls in March.

    "Are you tired of being played? I sure am"... That should be the CAQ new slogan.

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    1. Holy crap AnecTOTE - how'd you guess?

      Here's Francois Legault totally losing his shit (in English) on TV and announcing his campaign slogan: bit.ly/1kymXWP

      Judging by the reaction of the Quebecois at the end of the video, I think he might be on to something.

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    2. By AnecTOTE

      @AC

      I want to thank you for that...it brought a real smile to my face and what an incredible scene that was... if only the citizens of this province would borrow a page from it.

      WE ARE MAD AS HELL, AND WE ARE NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANY MORE!

      (All this free advice we're giving these dummies...hopefully it amounts to something my friend.)

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    3. @go team canada

      "WE ARE MAD AS HELL,..."

      i've been told not to care much about emotion filled outbursts from anonymous blog contributors. doesn't your culture teach the same go team canada? if it does, i hope you are not expecting anyone to consider what follows this confession of yours mate.

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  14. Martine Desjardins candidate du PQ ?

    http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2014/02/10/martine-desjardins-candidate-du-pq

    Bonne communicatrice,charismatique,cette jeune femme aurait beaucoup d'avenr au sein de notre parti.

    Excellent placement stratégique.

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    1. It's perfect really.

      Martine totally reminds me of Marois - a fake socialist with a hunger for power.

      Like Matante Popo, Martine DesJardins never gave a flying fuck about anyone but herself.

      Would you like some proof, SR?

      EXACTLY ONE YEAR AGO TODAY:

      "Martine Desjardins, the head of a university student association, said Marois was playing with words. Desjardins said her group will fight against a tuition increase of any kind at the summit, though she said there were no plans for another student strike yet."

      http://oncampus.macleans.ca/education/2013/02/11/quebec-student-groups-jostle-with-government-over-tuition/

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    2. @sylvain raciste

      i don't see how the martine desjardins quote you chose proves that she "never gave a flying fuck about anyone but herself".

      even though i doubt you can do it, i urge you to explain further.

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  15. 1:21 - "Vous sortez du metro puis on vous accuille avec: "Bienvenue a Montreal, Welcome in Montreal, Bonjour, Hi"

    http://www.985fm.ca/lecteur/audio/la-fete-des-neiges-est-elle-adaptee-pour-les-enfan-209943.mp3

    It looks like Dutrizac uncovered a crime against humaninty. Better report it to the Human Rights Watch.


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    1. @adski

      Pas un mot au sujet de l'animation unilingue anglaise et de la musique beaucoup trop forte exclusivement pour adultes anglophones,à 10h le matin?

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    2. 35 years after the passage of 101, with the PQ currently in power, you go to an event and you're inundated with American music.

      What's going on? Why is this still happening? What are these forces behind it? It surely must have to do with "accommodating" the anglo minority, in case one or two of them felt like driving from West Island to Longueuil to attend this momentous event.

      Talk to your PQ MP about his plans to take on the power of event organizers, sponsors, advertizes, financial and economic forces...and see how fast he will change the subject and point you rather to an elusive powerful "minorité gâtée" which runs things from their secret headquarters in Kirkland.

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    3. @adski

      Être accueilli en bilingue non seulement cela fait bâtard, mais en plus si on se laisse faire, plus tard ça sera Welcome in Montreal/Bienvenue à Montréal, Hi/Bonjour, et encore plus tard ça sera Welcome in Montreal, Hi. Comme cela était jusqu'aux années 1960.

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    4. "mais en plus si on se laisse faire"

      But you are allowing to happen because you don't (and can't) take on the forces that are behind it. You are too weak to fight the real causes of "anglicisation" and too busy fighting decoys and easy targets, like the "minorité gâtée". You either don't know that these are decoys, or you suspect that they are but won't admit it because then you would be stuck doing nothing, with your lives deprived of the sense of mission.


      " et encore plus tard ça sera Welcome in Montreal, Hi"

      If that is meant to happen, pequiste technocrats won't be able stop it. Ultimately, it will be up to the people influenced by a myriad of factors (many of them coming from outside Quebec) to decide, not the technocrats in Quebec City. The technocrats can put up roadblocks and annoy, but all they can do is to slow things down.

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    5. By AnecTOTE

      @Y.L

      What is bastardly is the way you butcher the French Language every time you open your mouth or reach for that keyboard. If the French Language could talk...lolololololololololo....it would shun you.

      @Apple, I'm wondering if this is an ELIZA-bot too....but the stupid version...as opposed to the other one which is plain dumb..lol...Thoughts? Lol

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    6. adski,

      Actually, some separatist elements expect that that force be stopped. To whom do they run for help? The government of course! Particularly the separatist government. Here is how they expect the government to take a stand against the NHL, in which I fully expect the government will simply ignore.

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    7. @troy

      i think it's totally legitimate to expect referee calls to be made in french in the bell center. it's very rude to the french majority not to do so. don't you agree troy? if you don't it kinda means you endorse the infamous eaton racist lady. can you confirm this troy.

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  16. C'est vrai que la ville s'anglicise de plus en plus et ça, ça m'inquiete beaucoup, puisque j'aime le français, cette langue historique et culturelle, je ne voudrais jamais la voir disparaître, et c'est pour ça que je suis fierement indépendantist, que je suis farouchement souverainiste, bien qu'anglophone d'origine. Les anglophones ne s'intéresse pas du tout en la survie d'une langue historique qui ne veut que de survivre librement . Les anglo canadiens ne le regrette jamais si cette langue va a la fenêtre, ils voudraient tous que Montréal s'anglicise ou point qu'ils peuvent s'y installer pour avoir l'occasion d'en profiter sans la peine d'apprendre une deuxième langue. Dégoulasse.

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    1. By AnecTOTE

      I am not even going to appear apologetic for what I am about to state. If that is your opinion and your point of view, we respect it and you can go be all that you can be as you are in the rest of the roq where they speak your language and only your language. Your narrow-mindedness and your archaic beliefs have destroyed my wonderful city, economically most of all. This short-sightedness has now become intolerable and unacceptable. Montrealers are better than what you describe and it is time they demand Retribution and Respect.

      ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. If bilingualism scares you than you are not fit to live among us, move to abitibi. This is Montreal-city state and we are not afraid to be French, English, Spanish, Italian, Russian, Greek, South African, Asian, Middle Eastern, Jewish, Hindi, Catholic, Protestant, Lutheran, Muslim, and some of us, just plain Spiritualists! This is what Montreal-City state is, if you don't like ..you can lump it...right outa here. I want to include everyone, but I will be damned if I stand here and beg the Losers who don't want to be included. Dehorssssss

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    2. "ça m'inquiete beaucoup, puisque j'aime le français, cette langue historique et culturelle, je ne voudrais jamais la voir disparaître"

      If something bothers you, do something about it. Fight it, but fight the real causes, not decoys.

      I look at pequistes and indépendantists who spend a lot of energy fighting things that are not even the cause of their malaise.

      Btw, saying "fierement indépendantist" is a tautology, isn't it? Aren't you "proud" by definition if you are an independentist? Are there any non-proud independantists, non-proud pequistes, non-proud defenders of the French language? I haven't met one yet who would not drive home the point of being proud.

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    3. "Les anglophones ne s'intéresse pas du tout en la survie d'une langue historique qui ne veut que de survivre librement"

      Some people are interested in A, some people are interested in B. That's life.

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    4. @anonymous 11h45:
      Avant de chialler contre tous et tout et d'affirmer que tu aimes le francais, apprends donc a l'ecrire sans faute, petit cancre.

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    5. From Ann,
      Is Quebec the champion of the French language for the whole Francophonie? How is it that French as a language will die if there is English in Montreal? Do Anglophones in Montreal have that much power that we can collectively cause the entire French language to die in the entire world!!! Quebec does not represent the entire French-speaking world. The French language will live on quite successfully even if Montreal is a bilingual city. Quite frankly I am sick and tired about hearing Quebecers moan on about the survival of the French language as if they are the sole keepers of the French language for the entire world. There are plenty of Francophone speaking countries compared to, Polish speaking, Czech speaking, Italian speaking, Greek speaking countries.
      Quebec is a huge province...if you don't want to see English then how about living outside of the Greater Montreal areal. Anglophones helped build Montreal and we have as much right to our language here as francophones.

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    6. I understand the fear factor when it comes to the francophones losing their language..they have seen it over and over across North America. On the other hand there comes a point where you need to let go of the language..its not the end all be all of ones life. How many millions of immigrants came to Canada and more or less lost their language or at least their offspring lost the native language and now are often thriving in Canada but speaking english, french or both.

      My grandparents were not anglophones and now I am and I even speak french fairly well. None of us are complaining about losing the language our ancestors spoke..life goes on and honestly there are more important things in the world than language. I think having a decent job, happiness, friends, health are far more important..its fine to protect the french language but there is a point where you cant trample on other peoples rights to do so.

      My sense is that we are heading towards a battle over Montreal..the more I look at this. I suspect that another PQ majority will unleash a wave of anglos and allos who are going to push for Montreal to get out of Quebec and ultimately that might be the price that Quebec needs to pay if they really want independance. Lets face it..Montreal has been built by many different groups..the anglos, the jews, the italians, the greeks and of course the french but les Quebecois in my opinion do not have any more claim on this city than the other groups..I would argue they have less.

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    7. The Italians and the Greeks in Montreal keep their language and culture. Why can't the French? It is the responsibility of the parents and the family to preserve one's heritage. Do the French have good family values?

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    8. @Anonymous: "C'est vrai que la ville s'anglicise de plus en plus..."

      No it is not true. Where`s the proof?

      I tried to find the link that Editor posted a while back but could not. I did find this video of Montreal in the 1950s. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTEeBaZPff4

      Notice how much more French there is in Montreal today compared to back then? Montreal is not anglicizing, it is a myth:

      http://nodogsoranglophones.blogspot.ca/2012/01/myth-of-anglicization-part-one.html
      http://nodogsoranglophones.blogspot.ca/2012/02/myth-of-anglicization-part-two.html

      There have never been more anglophones that speak French, we have made great efforts and great strides to learn French...but of course that is not enough, it will NEVER be enough for the likes of you and we have finally been pushed to our limit. We have not forgotten: http://www.lactualite.com/societe/que-veulent-les-anglo-quebecois/

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    9. "...If bilingualism scares you than..."

      ...Faites comme les dizaines de milliers de courageux anglos qui ont quitté l'an dernier en prenant la 401 vers les vastes plaines canadiennes,là où les chevaux et les "pickup trucks" sont rois :)

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    10. @Anonymous: "puisque j'aime le français, cette langue historique et culturelle, je ne voudrais jamais la voir disparaître..."

      Me too! But it does not necessitate the oppression of one language to promote another.

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    11. @ Anonymous: "je ne voudrais jamais la voir disparaître, et c'est pour ça que je suis fierement indépendantist, que je suis farouchement souverainiste...."

      I always suspected the separatist movement was all about language but seppies will tell you that's not really it at all. It`s for more freedom, blah, blah, blah (like they are oppressed!). I would like to understand just how an independent Quebec would help preserve the French language, what steps can be taken to preserve it above what is already in place? What do you think will happen? English will be banned? English schools will be outlawed? No bilingual signs. No English in the streets? All anglos must move? What about the allophones? Will they have to move too? Will there only be white people allowed? What about other religions....only Catholics I suppose. Well then, you can have your French ghetto and not have to deal with the rest of North America or even the world for that matter. You can deal with French speaking countries only. DONE!

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    12. @Anonymous: "ils voudraient tous que Montréal s'anglicise ou point qu'ils peuvent s'y installer pour avoir l'occasion d'en profiter sans la peine d'apprendre une deuxième langue. Dégoulasse

      Nobody wants French to disappear, where the heck do you get that from? Is it your paranoia and insecurity that make you think that way? And why do you want Quebec to be independent again? So that you don`t have to deal with any other languages, so you can have homogeneous one-language society? When you are "surrounded by a sea of English" as you seppies like to put it, it might be beneficial to promote learning a second language, rather than banning it and being afraid of it? How disingenuous. Deux poids, deux mésures!!

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    13. Les séparatistes voudraient tous que Québec rejette toute autre langue que le français au point qu'ils peuvent s'y installer pour avoir l'occasion d'en profiter sans la peine d'apprendre une deuxième langue. Dégoulasse.

      Deux poids.....

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    14. "...Faites comme les dizaines de milliers de courageux anglos qui ont quitté l'an dernier en prenant la 401 vers les vastes plaines canadiennes,là où les chevaux et les "pickup trucks" sont rois."

      Are there any reliable figures as to how many people left Quebec? And further, has anyone ever broken it down into how many were transferred by the companies they worked for and how many left of their own accord? Many members of my family were essentially given the choice to stay in Montreal and be unemployed or to accept the transfer.

      It's always a little sad how quickly some people jump to the argument, "Just leave then." We are forever being divided and conquered.

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    15. J'aurai tout vu...

      Laurie la Québécoise pure-laine qui s'attaque à un de nos bons anglos parce qu'il sensible à la réalité des francophones.

      Laurie Gratton...Vous n'avez pas honte?

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    16. "Faites comme les dizaines de milliers de courageux anglos qui ont quitté l'an dernier en prenant la 401 vers les vastes plaines canadiennes"

      What did it change for you that these people left? Nothing. You still have to speak English to get a job, and the people that left were replaced by immigrants who learned English, because they need it to get a job (you got rid of the people but you did not change the underlying economic structure). So you still hear English everywhere, this time spoken more and more with accents by the newly arrived, and less and less with no accents by the anglos whom you reduced to 8% of the population. Accents have changed, but the language hasn't - it is still English. In 2014 in Montreal, English is as alive as it was in the 1970s, and you're as alive trying to curb it as you were in the 1970s. Look at all these years you have wasted.

      now you can now drive out these "new anglos" of immigrant extraction and replace them with new immigrants, and in 10-15 years you'll end up with the same thing. It's because the causes anglicisation are beyond your reach. It's not who you drive out and who you bring in, it's about what forces drive the economy and your livelihood.

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    17. "it is still English"

      Faux...C'est du Globish

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    18. Good points adski. Are the seperatists going to take on the world? Do you reall think its english canada that has made english the international language? i would say that the dominance of the usa has made english the international language and the one that all people want to learn to interact with each other..its not Canadas fault.

      Hence Quebec like the rest of the world has no choice but to accept and use english if they want to be part of the world economy. You can whine all you want about it but thats the reality.

      Oh and if you really want people to speak to you in french only then you need a LOT more economic clout. Quebec is close to being the poorest province in Canada now..hence it has no clout anymore and it continues to diminish and a big reason is because of seperatist neanderthals who obsess day and night about the language people speak.

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    19. "No it is not true. Where`s the proof?"

      For them, it is true. It's not about the figures, it's about what they feel. And they do feel swamped by English.

      The problem is that it is something that clearly bothers these people but that they cannot do anything about it and unable to accept it. Not being able to to change things and refusing to live with these things is a recipe for a neurosis, a common ailment of the pequistes.

      By refusing to quit, by refusing to accept things they cannot change, you would at least hope they will attack the real causes of the thorns in their side. But they don't (either they are either confused or know that they can't beat the real causes).

      They won't quit, they won't face the true source of their problems, and they won't accept things the way things are. What's left? Swinging fists at false and innocent targets, like the girls who served Bock Cote in French but then had the gall to talk to each other in English, or a store clerk who greeted Marechal with "May I help you?").

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    20. To Anonymous of 3:25:00 PM EST:
      Here is a chart from Statistics Canada regarding the movement of English-mother-tongue Canadians into and out of Quebec, covering the years 1971-2006. (I reckon the numbers are reliable. If you can't trust StatsCan, whom can you trust?)
      Fun fact: Between 1976 and 1981, the number of English mother-tongue migrants was 131,500 from Quebec to other provinces and 25,200 from other provinces to Quebec, for a net migration of -106,300. (StatsCan)

      http://www.pch.gc.ca/eng/1359053019560/1359061092477

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    21. By AnecTOTE

      "It's always a little sad how quickly some people jump to the argument, "Just leave then." We are forever being divided and conquered."

      I don't feel divided or conquered, Montreal City-State is non negotiable. We, the multi-cultural facet of society live here, work here and pay taxes here and we will decide for ourselves what is best for us and the island. We're the kippah wearing, hijab wearing, turban-wearing, and just plain (en masse) citizens of this city AND we shall decide. Bring forth that referendum, so we can vote ourselves out of this looney bin that this crazy province has become, and then we can start rebuilding this incredible city from the ground up. We can start encouraging Industry to come back and invest OUT OF THEIR POCKET rather than bribing them with money we don't have. We will focus on the Montreal Economy rather than language police and what people display on their heads and we'll attract the worlds finest, Minds and Money to come to this fair city. It will grow again, and prosper again and see Success again, it has been sabotaged for too long and finally it's time for it to flourish again but first it has to lose some rotten limbs that have been holding it back. Those cannot be saved and can never be healed and they must go. On the upside for them, they have expansive territory they can choose to go to. Chicoutimi, Matane, Ville de quebec, Saint Anselme, Saint Apollinaire Saint Agapit, Saint Raphael, Sainte-Claire, Saint Henri-de-Levis, and so on...to go to...to be uniquely White Catholic and Unilingual, miles and miles of territory, to be estranged from the real world and remain insular. But we, Montreal City-State dwellers will breath life back into this remarkable city, or die trying. AND we will settle for at least trying. C'est assez!

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    22. "Fun fact: Between 1976 and 1981, the number of English mother-tongue migrants was 131,500 from Quebec to other provinces and 25,200 from other provinces to Quebec, for a net migration of -106,300. (StatsCan)"

      It would be interesting to see how many of those people were working for companies that transferred them out of Quebec.

      It's also interesting to note that the Expulsion of the Acadians amounted to 11,500 people...

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    23. @anonymous

      are you trying to compare chicken shit runaways with forced deportees?!? yannick care to take over this one?

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    24. No, your first statement is a lie.
      Montreal is not anglicisizing. It is seeing francophones fleeing for the suburbs.
      The rest of your paragraph is equally false and attributes false motives that cannot be backed up by any realistic view of people who actually live in Quebec.


      -K
      Thank you for playing, try again with some real

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    25. "are you trying to compare chicken shit runaways with forced deportees?!?"

      No, I'm just trying to get your attention. But I do wonder about the phrase, "chicken shit runaways." I don't think that was the reality and for any discussion to move forward it should be based on reality and not myth or bigotry.

      Most of us try to make the best choice out of the options available. For members of my family who had young children, mortgages and 10-15 years on the job the choices were to lose that job or accept the transfer. Believe it or not, it was very rarely an easy decision. I don't know anyone who was happy about being transferred away from their home.

      The real decisions were made in boardrooms and, to use a British expression, "above my pay grade."

      Most of us know Ken Dryden's excellent book, "The Game," but he also wrote a very good book called, "The Moved and the Shaken." That's us, we're not the movers and shakers, we're the moved and the shaken. And we're the manipulated.

      The biggest change in Quebec over the past forty years has been in ownership. Maybe it makes you feel better than the new owners placate you with language laws and you don't care that they sacrificed a big part of the culture of Montreal and ran a lot of people out of their homes.

      You can admire all those companies that moved out of Quebec and took Anglos with them, but I can't. I see them as the chicken shits and I wish that 'the people' (not to sound too socialist) had united against them. But we didn't.


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  17. Hmmmm...is it just me or is Team No Dogs clobbering the crap out of Team 101-60?

    Just today alone, the likes of S.R, Student and Y.L have been totally owned (even worst than the two previous days) - so much so that they simply cannot comeback.

    I'd have to hand it to Adski so far today for laying major waste to the canned seppie arguments.

    Complicated is returning today in much the same form he exhibited yesterday, but he will have to pick up the pace to maintain the gold medal he got in the long-distance STFU event.

    Sly Raciste's pointing out that exactly a year ago today, Martine Desjardins was butting heads with Matante Popo, only to join her team 365 days later was pretty good, but since we all already what a slimy duplicitous opportuniste Desjardins happens to be, it's not quite as much fun as the other posts.

    What will Student do to earn her bronze medal in the cross-country bullshit biathalon?

    Will Y.L "juice up" in order to gain a medal in freestyle propaganda regurgitation?

    Can S.R out-do himself at the 200-metre downhillbilly racism jump?

    All that and more later this afternoon.

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    1. By AnecTOTE

      @AC..

      OMG....you kill me...lol

      And now straight from Sochi...St.Louis kicks buttttttttt!!!!!!!!

      Goooooo Martinnnnnn!

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    2. "Martine Desjardins was butting heads with Matante Popo, only to join her team 365 days later was pretty good"

      I've been seeing Desjardins more and more on television in the past few months (especially on MaTV), invited in the capacity of an "expert" to talk about this or that. It was obvious that Comedante Desjardins was undergoing domestication by admission into the ivory tower circles, and that she wasn't minding it at all. Her becoming a PQ candidate or some commentator on television was in the making for a while.

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    3. FROM ED
      It's not the USA that has spread English world wide. It was the British colonization that brought it into India, Africa; the mid East and of course North Amerca. World War II spread the good word throughout Europe and the U.S, Englishanized Japan and the south Pacific area. Ed

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    4. By AnecTOTE

      I find it very interesting that all the student protagonists who played major roles during the student strike are all being cajoled with positions in PQ politics.

      Lemme see, maybe just maybe, these "students" were already recruited to play a part way before the student strike. Maybe just maybe the political party in power now colluded with the unions months before the liberals announced that meager increase in education fees and knew that education was the weakest link they could attack and go after to cause havoc on the Liberals. After all, playing young impressionable inexperienced minds isn't a challenge really, if you use the right words, it's a red rug to a bull really. What I'm getting at is....it was all pretty much planned way before the students even knew that they would be the major victims to be played in a government take-down by the unions and a party that lusted for power again. Except for those aforementioned protagonists who now are being compensated for cooperating.

      Yes I know, very Machiavellian ...mmmm ...but let's consider it for a moment...they gambled and won...and now, they are gambling again. All I'm saying is..let it marinate...(who's the walrus...??)

      But the more important question beckons: What was it the Liberals did to piss off the unions that these same wanted them gone and colluded with the other seppie party playing unsuspecting students like concert cellos?

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    5. @go team canada

      "...before the liberals announced that meager increase in education fees..."

      it was 82%. proving you're full of scheiß. is the rest of your comment low quality too, or should i spend time reading it?

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    6. @student
      Percentages always make very low figures sound impressive.
      Tuition was going from under $2000 to under $5000 over 7 years.
      $5000 a year for tuition is in line with the Canadian average, and still peanuts.

      Although for the average BA from université de rien faire, even that is too much since the degree will not permit anyone to actually do anything in life.

      -Kevin

      -Kevin

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    7. "it was 82%."

      This is a form of disinformation. The "striking" students make the situation sound very drastic when they present such a figure...until you find out that the 82% amounts to $254 a year, which broken down comes out to 69 cents a day.

      What kind of loser cannot put together 69 cents a day?

      I've never heard one student ever counter that one.

      Another shit argument busted.

      82% amounts to

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  18. CBC'S HARD FRENCH ACCENT
    http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/featured/prime-time/867432237001/cbcs-hard-french-accent/3183707157001
    CBC goes all out in its Francophone pronunciation of Olympic athletes' names.

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    1. Oh brother..Sun news has nothing else to whine about than this..what a bunch of sour-pusses..really. These athletes are francophone and its a sign of basic respect to pronounce their names the correct way..the correct way is the french way as they are french names..if anglophones dont like then they can stuff it.
      I am pretty sure the francophone announcers pronouce the anglo names more or less the anglo way..nobody complains.

      This is such a class less report..Mr.Lilley is like the sterotypial anglo in Montreal circa 1960 who thinks its their god given right to have everything anglicized and spoken the way they want it.

      I can see why Sun News has such poor ratings..what a bunch of ignorant hypocrites..

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    2. Agree 100%. consider the source complicated.

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    3. lol They've already posted a apology

      http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/3188260034001

      They're about as bad as some of the French press who keep adding an accent and pronouncing Eugenie Bouchard's name incorrectly. Regardless of what language you're speaking at least try to pronounce a person's name as they want it to be pronounced.

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    4. @thatguy

      who knew that you know better than french journalists how to pronounce a french name! fascinating.

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    5. (zoom) The sound of student missing the point again, as it flys right over her head.

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    6. @student
      You've obviously never heard her pronounce her name -- GENIE BOOSH-ARD.
      Elle ne dit pas oo-jean-ee boushar'

      -Kevin

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  19. PQ Budget Feb 20. Will be a mess - hopefully voters will remember that we do not have the money to buy business to move here. They have to want to come here and MAKE A PROFIT in whatever language they want to - Bill 14 will kill off any hope of that ever coming to be.

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    1. "PQ Budget Feb 20. Will be a mess..."

      how do you know? is this another rash of your allergy to good faith?

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    2. @student
      Because Nicolas Marceau has already admitted he's $3 billion off in projections for the current fiscal year?

      -Kevin

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  20. When an athlete, who according to S.R lacks the intellect, opens his mouth, this is what you get:

    "“We’re both proud to be Quebeckers... But we’re very proud to be Canadians … yes, we do a lot of good things in Quebec but there are great things all across Canada.”

    Alexandre Bilodeau, Olympic Gold Medallist

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    1. @troy

      that's easy to say. i can say it too! do you take this quote as a proof of anything more than being able to acknowledge that great things happen all accross canada?

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  21. We all know how corrupt and filthy the public unions of Quebec happen to be, but this takes the cake:

    http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/dossiers/commission-charbonneau/201402/11/01-4737647-placement-les-entrepreneurs-etaient-sous-le-joug-syndical.php

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  22. Wow.

    First Marois openly admits that she subsidized her new cement factory to buy votes.

    Now, the PQ openly admits that they'll call a snap-election earlier than April so that Philippe Couillard only appears in the National Assembly for one week prior to elections, and to present a budget before the opposition has adequate time to examine and debate it.

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    1. FROM ED
      Couillard is not intrested in the budget. He knows likenthe rest of us do the condition of the economy. He wants the election. Ed

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    2. @ed

      "Couillard is not intrested in the budget."

      thanks for the scoop ed. i think you should vote for someone who is.

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    3. @ Ed
      He should be interested in the budget as it will show to Quebec how piss poor the economy is doing, it's way the PQ have no interest in tabling it before an election.

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  23. Régis Labeaume révolté par le port du burkini

    http://www.lapresse.ca/le-soleil/actualites/societe/201402/11/01-4737799-regis-labeaume-revolte-par-le-port-du-burkini.php

    Quoi ?!? ... Un birkini ?

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    1. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE FRANKFORTTuesday, February 11, 2014 at 5:38:00 PM EST

      Un birkini!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????????
      Au Canada?
      Dans mon Canada il n'y a jamais eu de birkini depuis je suis ne.
      Les immigres doivent se plier aux coutumes canadiennes ou aller ailleurs!!!

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    2. Je serais curieux voir le Burk-string maintenant.

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    3. Of course, when immigrants land at YUL they should pledge that they will wear bikinis. genius

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    4. "Dans mon Canada il n'y a jamais eu de birkini depuis je suis ne" ?

      Née ou nue ?

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  24. http://www.ledevoir.com/politique/quebec/399648/labeaume

    "Québec — Le maire de Québec Régis Labeaume a invité la population à ne pas s'en prendre aux femmes musulmanes qui sont «obligées» de se couvrir entièrement le corps pour se baigner dans les piscines publiques.

    Mardi matin, Le Soleil de Québec révélait que la piscine Lucien-Borne avait posé des affiches signalant que les maillots de bain recouvrant tout le corps, les «burkinis», étaient permis.

    Interpellé sur d'autres sujets vers midi, le maire Labeaume a tenu a lancer un appel au calme dans ce dossier afin d'éviter les dérapages.

    «Ya des gens qui pourraient être tentés de blâmer ces femmes-là. Je voudrais dire à ceux qui pourraient être tentés de faire ça à Québec de ne pas le faire. De surtout avoir beaucoup de compassion pour ces femmes-là qui sont obligées de s'attriquer de cette façon-là à cause de préceptes religieux, à cause d'interprétations d'une religion qui quant à moi sont fausses.»

    M. Labeaume a par ailleurs indiqué qu'il n'avait aucun problème à laisser ces femmes porter de tels maillots. «De toute façon, des nageurs professionnels ont à peu près le même», a-t-il dit.

    Il n'a pas caché par ailleurs qu'il les plaignait beaucoup et espérait qu'elles «se révoltent un jour».

    À une journaliste qui lui demandait s'il permettrait à des sauveteurs employés par la ville de s'habiller ainsi, il a par ailleurs indiqué que ce ne serait probablement pas permis."

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  25. http://www.cjad.com/blog/the-exchange/2014/02/11/coalition-election

    Interesting proposal..some have mentioned this before. I have to admit that it makes a lot of sense but politically very risky. In reality 60 percent of Quebecers voted for the CAQ and Liberals. The majority of Quebecers chose these parties..should they not be leading the province in a coalition. I could see them working together..but they would have to make many tough decision..ie cuts which could cost them in the next election.

    I doubt it will happen..

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  26. Cutie - You mention PQ budget Feb.20th..where is your source for that? I dont see any mention anywhere..if anything I understood that the PQ want an election without a budget.

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    1. I believe this is the source : http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/Politique/2014/02/11/004-marois-budget-possible-fevrier.shtml

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    2. Budget preview: http://chaoticsoulzzz.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/no-money.jpg

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  27. Saw it posted on FB - not sure of the source. Thought it was announced in the assembly but will keep an eye open to see if I can confirm the source.

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    1. By AnecTOTE

      They will never table a budget and never table bill 60 to be voted on, they will never pass Go and the will never collect 200$. They will just call a snap election hoping they've played the electorate right into oblivion and maneuver themselves back in with a majority, where then they can finally execute their true agenda, this will be DIRE for us economically. It cannot happen. Vote CAQ.

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    2. By AnecTOTE

      No election "in the next days"... If that isn't a huge tell-tale...not sure what is. Oh yeah she is getting ready to pounce in the next few weeks, otherwise she would have been crystal clear, no election anytime soon. On top of all the games this incompetent government is playing, they're also playing Semantics.

      Please can we finalyyyyy take out the trash once trash day comes around?

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    3. If they get a majority government this place may well be burned to the ground. Problems like we've never seen before with these A$$holes in charge of anything including the city dump.

      What are they doing getting involved with the running of the JGH for anyway? What are they trying to accomplish with their stupid nonsense telling people where they can go to get treated for their medical needs? They are the craziest bunch I've ever seen! Why don't they mind their business and trying fixing the damn economy instead of telling doctors who they can and can't treat? They are control freaks not fiscal managers as a government is supposed to be!

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    4. "They are the craziest bunch I've ever seen!"

      Vous n'avez jamais rencontré ma belle-famille.

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    5. @cutie003

      "They are the craziest bunch I've ever seen!"

      you need to go out more.

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    6. Sorry AnecTOTE and complicated - can't see how voting for the CAQ is going to help us or this province and they were more than willing to negotiate with the PQ on a FEW changes to both Bill 14 and the racist Charter. These two policies alone will more than devastate the economy so it will not matter whether they tackled the unions or not. Hundreds of thousands will again leave crippling our tax base and no one will move here. The francophones that have left will not return - I never see any of them comment that they would like to come "home" save one that is in BC. The whole political movement in this province has to change their attitude towards the minorities that sustain the system and this will not happen under the CAQ. Again, the best of the worst is the liberals - I know it sucks but there it is.

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  28. Sotchi 2014 – Pourquoi le Québec domine le Canada

    http://www.lerepublique.com/1129332/sotchi-2014-pourquoi-le-quebec-domine-le-canada/

    En effet, nous apprenions ce matin dans le Globe and Mail que le Québec a investi 2,6 millions pour le sport amateur pour 2012-2013. En comparaison, l’Alberta aurait investi un maigre 159 000 $.

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  29. Les vraies couleurs de nos championnes.

    http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/interima/media/1662691_611718398914158_2117695052_n.jpg.html

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    1. Keep masturbating, champion.

      They have the gold and the silver.

      In one picture they're dressed in red and white. In your picture, they;re dressed in blue and white.

      They're superstars, and you're nothing, just this angry spammer troll from Sherbrooke.

      What I'm saying is, I ddon't give a rat's ass if those girls are actually sovereigntists (video and audio proof shows they aren't) but let's say they were.

      There still 100X better than you and any loser part of your family will ever be.

      Aren't you happy February is a short month SR?

      You get your welfare check 3 days early. Go get your welfare check SR, and the real winning Quebecois will be winning medals.

      Sweet dreams loser.

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    2. Héhé...Avouez que le bleu est une couleur plus naturelle pour ces Québécoises,non?

      Tellement plus jeune,tellement plus cool :D

      N'oubliez de faire le 9 pour le service en Globish :)

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    3. Wow, that's just pathetic ;) Even Guy Lepage and Pierre Curzi admit to being Canadian during the Games ;)

      -Kevin

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  30. By AnecTOTE

    Gee, you sure have a lot to say for someone who called Athletes intellectually inferior just the other day. You just can't let it go, it's eating you up inside that they stood on the podium, put their hand over their heart, sang "Oh Canada" while the Canadian Flag was raised and meant it. It is a tough concept for you to grasp that people can be many things simultaneously and proud to be so. But here you are proving adski's theory all over again.

    "The problem is that it is something that clearly bothers these people but that they cannot do anything about it and unable to accept it. Not being able to to change things and refusing to live with these things is a recipe for a neurosis, a common ailment of the pequistes."

    Amen.

    Ps: seek Therapy.

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    1. @go team canada

      "...sang "Oh Canada" while the Canadian Flag was raised and meant it."

      how do you now? hint: you don't.

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    2. Si au moins les canayens avaient eu l'originalité et la créativité pour écrire leur propre hymne national...Mais non,ils ont encore volé le voisin.Quand c'est pas les Américains,c'est le Québécois...Misère.

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    3. @ S.R.

      Quebec has been conquered by the English. That means everything that comes from Quebec belongs to Canada and that also means you. Deal with it.

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    4. Adski partage les même frustrations que vous Tote.Vous êtes incapables de vivre dans un milieu francophone et vous n'avez pas les moyens ou le courage pour quitter.

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    5. By AnecTOTE

      Ahhh it warms my heart that you've taken the time to try and figure me out s.r., I'm truly touched. Lol

      You can think and believe whatever you like about me, it's completely the fantasy between your ears who you've decided that I am...and who I am to refute or validate it. It's YOUR fantasy. But your reaction just now, and this sad attempt at projecting, lol, is very very telling. We hit a nerve and narrowed in ..on the depth of your psychosis. Shall we go further?

      Here's the thing: the people in charge ...in quebec City right now, ....they know this, they understand how you're a slave to this mental decease and they play it, and they play YOU. You're so helpless you can't even get yourself to a place wher you can start to contemplate it. The plan, the mechanics. You and all those like you who cannot manage the least bit of objectivity become pawns for them. You're a nothing but piece..on a chess board...to be played first and then sacrificed ..to appease the grandiose ambitions of the little greedy queen.. presently at the helm. You are an object, you are a thing and your refusal to see it...is checkmate for them.

      Now go to bed and sleep on that.

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    6. @go team canada

      "You and all those like you who cannot manage the least bit of objectivity..."

      you wrote earlier that you were "mad as hell". do you think you can still "manage the least bit of objectivity" yourself mate?

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    7. By AnecTOTE

      Go energizer bunny..lol..

      Check mate.

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    8. "Vous êtes incapables de vivre dans un milieu francophone et vous n'avez pas les moyens ou le courage pour quitter."

      I am capable of living in a milieu where French is spoken. I have a hard time living in a milieu where French is endlessly spoken about (and it is designed to be endless). I have little patience with the politics of culture and identity politics in general, of which the Canadian politics of language is just a part.

      "The point about disputes on such topics as the value of sexual abstinence, the role of religious charities in state-funded activities, the question of gay marriage, and the like, is that they are not framed to be resolved. The political function is to divide citizenry while obscuring class differences and diverting the voters' attention from the social and economic concerns of the general populace. Cultural wars might seem an indication of strong political involvements. Actually they are a substitute. The notoriety they receive from the media and from politicians eager to take firm stands on non-substantive issues serves to distract attention and contribute to a cant politics of the inconsequential."

      Prof. Sheldon S. Wolin - "Democracy Incorporated - Managed Democracy and the Specter of Inverted Totalitarianism"

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    9. Student, just to let you know, "mate," is very English but there were never many English in Montreal, it was almost all Irish and Scottish.

      But I'm sure you knew that... ;)

      - Jay

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  31. And Marois back-pedals on elections for a third time: http://www.montrealgazette.com/business/There+election+planned+Marois+tells+Couillard/9496401/story.html

    ...and she also feels a need to present a budget now. Guess her advisers finally got through to her that coming up victorious in an election would be impossible without a budget.

    Seppies, take note. This is your new political reality.

    You can no longer cry Anglo-wolf and get yourselves a referendum.

    The Quebecois state is falling to pieces. People are liteerally dying in waiting rooms, massive layoffs are occurring across the province, roads and bridges are crumbling and people are so over-taxed that they can barely make ends meet.

    Take all that into account and you'll find that this isn't 1980 anymore.

    You may think that the Anglos and immigrants are the only ones opposed to the sovereignist movement, but just read teh comments section of le Journal de Montreal.

    Or look up le mot-clic #PQ in Twitter.

    What you'll see is that the vast majority of Francophones are sick and tired off living in marginal conditions.

    So instead of coming here and trying to start shit with us on our blog (our community, not yours), perhaps you should go deal with the 75% of FRANCOPHONE Twitter users and JdM readers who want to kill the sovereignist movement and move forward.

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  32. A perfect example of what I just said: http://screencast.com/t/XiTd5QsuOcT

    Now, it really is no longer about French vs. English.

    It's the progressives (both Francos and Anglos) banding together against the entitlement class.

    Hard-working, honest Francos and Anglos have had enough of sustaining parasites like Student and S.R who protest in the street over pathetic tuition hikes that amount to 69 cents a day over the course of a year, while their roads cripple their vehicles (costing them even more money) and they have to pay even more taxes on that bottle of wine they want to treat themselves to after such a long day of bullshit.

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  33. Raciste & coward sont probablement les gourous ou des disciples des pages FB : "Le 67% contre le PQ" ou " I hate Pauline Marois"

    Pages sous surveillance de la SQ

    Une impression comme ça.

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  34. Well, well, well....the truth comes out:

    http://cdnolympicfr.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/20130512_sb_coc_chloejustinedufour-lapointe_4305.jpg

    Fucking separatists...there really is no limit to how low and fickle they are.

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    1. Je crois que c'est vous qui avez posté ce lien,non?

      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BgKFDazCEAAVnay.jpg

      Vraiment plus bas et malhonnête que ce montage ? ...Je ne crois pas.

      "fucking federalist"

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  35. Laïcité: Fatima Houda-Pepin dépose son projet de loi

    http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/dossiers/charte-de-la-laicite/201402/12/01-4738150-laicite-fatima-houda-pepin-depose-son-projet-de-loi.php

    Pour embarrasser les troupes de Philippe Couillard, le leader parlementaire du gouvernement, Stéphane Bédard, a demandé que le dépôt du projet de loi fasse l'objet d'un vote nominal - chose rarissime.

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    1. From Ann
      Yes, Stephane Bedard wanted to go for maximum embarrassment of Couillard. I guess some people applaud those who like to humiliate others, I think it looks bad on the one who has the malicious intent to cause someone humiliation. It is so very high school..but then again it seems like many politicians never evolved beyond high school mentality.

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