Let me tell you what I think is happening or what should be happening.
As usual the mainstream press is be led around by the nose, nothing more than an unwitting pawn in the political chess game that is playing out before us.
Let us pretend for a moment that the Editor has been hired as a strategist for the Marois government and let's listen in on the private conversations he has with La Pauline.
EDITOR:
Madame Marois, it's best to proceed to an election as soon as possible, the economy is tanking and the province is bleeding jobs. If we are forced to table a budget with a huge deficit, we are sunk.
We'd have hoped that by this time the Charbonneau Commission would have exposed the Liberal party for the corrupt thieves that they are, but it is just taking too long.
The longer we wait, the worse for us. We're going to have to throw the dice at a certain point and earlier is better than later.
LA PAULINE:
But Editor, we don't seem to have the numbers. The last thing I want to happen is to lose power based on a premature election that I called, like that idiot Charest.
EDITOR:
We're close, the polling numbers indicate a PQ or Liberal minority, so let's see where we can go with this. We just need to boost up popularity a tiny bit, we only need a 2% swing.
My advice is to tell your key ministers to leak to their favourite reporters or journalists, the fact that we are likely going to an election. These not-for-attribution rumours will spread like wildfire, when reporters believe they have an inside track to a story they become as blind as a bat and as motivated as an addict given a free hit of heroin.
In the meantime, under NO circumstances should any Minister suggest in public that an election is in the offing.
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES!
LA PAULINE:
To What end?
EDITOR:
The journalists are idiots. They will report that an election is in the offing and this will be confirmed by other reporters who have also been so advised via 'reliable sources'.
We just sit back and watch the polling numbers. If our popularity goes up in reaction to the news, we proceed to an election.
If not, nobody here is guilty of anything. We didn't say an election is coming and we can climb down effortlessly, calling the speculation a flight of journalistic fancy.
LA PAULINE:
Are the journalists that dumb?
EDITOR:
Even if the journalists know that they are being played, what can they do. If the journalist doesn't play ball, access will be cut off and a journalist without sources is not a journalist.
LA PAULINE:
What if we don't get the bump we need after the trial balloon?
EDITOR:
Then we go to PLAN B, an election triggered, not by us but by the opposition.
If the polls indicate that the electors don't want an election, then put the election on the backs of the opposition and make it over the Charter of Values, an issue where we can win.
LA PAULINE:
How will that work?
EDITOR:
Table the Charter of Values bill in a form that is so harsh and unacceptable to the opposition that even the CAQ won't accept it without losing all credibility.
Get rid of the Crucifix in the National Assembly as the only compromise and stand tough on everything else, including applying the law to health care workers.
LA PAULINE:
Why the Crucifix?
EDITOR:
This plays to our own voters and will show them that we've compromised when in fact we haven't at all. For our base, it seems like a fair and equitable trade, the Crucifix for the Hijab, or so goes the logic. We satisfy a lot of fence-sitters with this idiotic compromise, but trust me, it'll work.
The CAQ and the Liberals will howl and scream that the law is too harsh, but we can point to the Crucifix that we've given up, a clever distraction that is bound to play to the base. In the meantime, we know the Liberals will vote against the law but when we offer the CAQ nothing, they too, reluctantly will vote against the law, to support it as is, would strip the party of any and all political legitimacy.
If the government falls under these circumstances, the opposition will be blamed and the one and only election issue will be the Charter, something we can actually win on.
Under these circumstances, I'm convinced we can win a majority, or the worst case scenario has us returning to power in a minority government.
LA PAULINE:
But what if the CAQ refuses to bite, they know that they'll be decimated in the next election and maybe they'll just hold their nose and vote with us?
EDITOR:Don't believe our idiot journalists who first told us we were going to have an election and then told us we were not.
An excellent outcome as well, it means that you can rule as if you have a majority. If they are too afraid to lose their jobs, you can safely ignore them because when push comes to shove, they're going to cave.
You can bring back Bill 14 and just about anything else on your political agenda. It all works out, no matter how the chips fall.
LA PAULINE:
Bravo, I like it.... Sounds like a plan! Editor, you are brilliant! (OK, I couldn't resist).
They have been played by the PQ from the beginning, traipsing around the floor like folk dancers obeying the caller's every command.
"No ideas and the ability to express them - that's a journalist" -Karl Kraus.Just because Pauline said she wouldn't call an election, doesn't mean we won't have one.
Know that the PQ is itching for an election based on a Charter of Values debate, so come hell or high water, the Charter, when presented, will be one piece of nasty...wait for it.
Hard to doubt that strategy, and having been in the game, I'll yield to their expertise. On the plus side, the rebukes of Pastagate and the first iteration of the Charter have already brought them negative press worldwide. All the PQ now will do is fortify it, and Quebec's reputation will once again go in the tank...and Quebec deserves all the disdain hurled at it.
ReplyDeleteI too hope it will add more fuel to Harper's fire to hopefully adversely stick it to Quebec, and furthermore consider cutting equalization payments to an ungrateful, rabid racist collectivity who has no respect for Canadian values, including the declaration that one of Canada's two official languages cannot lawfully be used freely within its territory.
I'm looking forward to them making bigger asses of themselves than they already are as painted by the international media. They're desperate, hateful and stupid enough to do so.
START THE COUNTDOWN, FOLKS!
DeleteWHOOMP! HERE IT IS! We're on the cusp of Caroline Van Vlaardingen's two-part story of The Quebec Exodus again. Be sure to watch it on CFCF at 6pm. Don't miss it! I'll catch it on the 'net. Tell everybody you know within the CFCF viewing area to watch, and for those you know outside the viewing area, send them the link once it appears!
To the fellow featured in the preview: Welcome to Ontario. We can use your mind, your expertise and best of all, your tax dollars! Remember: The license plate reads YOURS TO DISCOVER. Once you do, you'll wonder why you didn't leave sooner!
I did leave and I came back.
DeleteI left in Aug of this year.Left it all there and will never look back. Not sure why we waiting so long to leave, I guess we thought the shitty infrastructure , transit system and language would all get better ,but after 37 years the shit is still there. Leave you will feel better cause Quebec isn't.
DeleteWell, seems like the Gazette confirmed that there will be no election in 2013. Bets are on for when the 2014 general election will be called!
ReplyDeleteWe need to establish a protocol now for the future.
ReplyDeleteOnce the Red Cross has to come in and setup refugee camps and feed Quebecers that don;t have hove jobs or money anymore, how will the PQ and our Liberal friends determine who gets fed first.
These are serious issues of precedence that must be answered. How can Quebec make rules to deny food and medical care to foreigners that do;t not understand the delicate balance that has been struck in quebec over 40 without seeming "insensitive"?
When will the majority finally feel confident enough to properly codify the principles of two classes of citizen in the laws.
The charter is a good start but we must look to leaders and countries before that strove for linguistic, cultural and ethnic purity within their borders.
Every year Quebec inches (millimeter?) by inch closer to resembling Germany pre second world war.
In a shout out to our great example of courage (that's what we call surrender now) in the second world war France, current beacon of 75% taxes, strikes and no jobs.
Under the category of "everything that happens in France happens in Quebec".
France is worrying about booksellers being crushed Amazon now. Talking about laws to protect them, raise minimum prices etc. Do Quebec and France really think that when they mirror each other like this over and over in ideas that the rest of the world doesn;t see Quebec still simply striving to be little france?
All the angst seppies think anglo's have about our "anglo culture" being a "melting pot". I'm confused, you think that's an insult? You think I identify with a "culture" created by a bunch of overpaid government grant flunkies as something that is actually important in the day to day lives of Canadians?
On the other hand the open wound that is little Quebec desperate to try to peel itself off from Canada and North America and obsesses endlessly about cultural identity, how to be like france without looking like "little me" from Austin Powers. (Seppies, it's was a major movie like Bon Cop).
What other genius ideas can we import from France. They are such a model to emulate, I can;t even figure out where to start.
What needs to be understood here is that we must make the population at large understand that it really isn't about feds vs. seppies anymore.
DeleteIt's a war of ideology.
The Editor and I have been on the same page as far as the PQ getting roasted over its budget. Once those foul numbers are released, will the population FINALLY react accordingly?
I have my doubts. Take Student for example.
Several commentors have given her all the numbers she needs to see that the PQ (as well as other separatist institutions) have gravely damaged our economy and put us into a very sever debt.
What does she automatically do? Outright denial and fudging of the numbers.
When people like this have the power to vote, we're in deep shit.
+10 - And they talk about lowering the voting age so even younger hormone spiked kids can vote and really do a good job on our economy! Only in quebec. I think they should have to prove they have a job, have had one for two years, own a home and have finished their education, at least high school, before they are allowed to even have a vote!
Delete"Once those foul numbers are released, will the population FINALLY react accordingly? I have my doubts."
DeleteI definitely agree, economic preoccupations are the last thing on your typical separatists mind. Or at least, for the minority of separatists that still remain. We all know the more intelligent separatists realize that it would be financial suicide, and no longer support that pipe-dream.
The people who are still separatists today typically live in a socialist fantasy world where money is not important (as long as someone else is paying), and less wealthy people simply means more "social justice". Take student for example, this person obviously has no clue what the real world is about.. a future Quebec politician (PQ or QS), artist, union delegate, or UQAM teacher for sure.
People who care about the economy wouldn't have voted PQ in the first place. I predict the next budget will simply roll out without too much of a fuss, besides the PQ can get their friends in the media to downplay anything they want. I doubt it will affect PQ support the least bit. Either way, they've already explained why our economy isn't doing good: it's because the federal government takes our money to fund Ontario. Right?...
It's always the fault of the ROC no matter what shit happens in this province. Everyone of the seppies should have caught on to these outright lies by now but you still see them stick by it everyday, all the time. Stupid people that will vote themselves into bankruptcy and civil rife for absolutely no GD good reason except to stick it to the anglophones. Sick society in which we live.
Delete@quebeker of tree stump
Delete"Take student for example, this person obviously has no clue what the real world is about.. a future Quebec politician (PQ or QS), artist, union delegate, or UQAM teacher for sure."
you forgot journalist, buisness owner, banker, welfare, book editor, engineer, writer, doctor and lawyer. you figured me out all right mate.
@anonymous coward
Delete"Several commentors have given her all the numbers she needs to see that the PQ (as well as other separatist institutions) have gravely damaged our economy and put us into a very sever debt."
you're wrong, nobody did. what numbers are you refering to mate? did you manage to calculate relative numbers for debt and deficit, or are you still relying on stupid iedm debt clock? and how did the pq "damage your economy"?
@ student
DeleteCalm down. No need to refer to the iedm debt clock as stupid.
PQ damaging the economy
@roger rabbit
Deletei'm calm. some statistics are stupid mate. context renders them bright.
@student
DeleteContext is that Quebec is one of the most indebted "nations," unfortunately. Look it up.
I don't think they realize that France wants nothing to do with them, like the younger sister chasing the older sister and the older sister constantly telling her to get lost.
ReplyDeleteTrue story:
Over the summer I was in Paris and the minute Parisians would hear my québécois accent, (which I am really proud of, especially since, if I am not wearing a name tag, in everyday quebec, no one is the wiser), I'd get the look. Without uttering another word that expression of disgust came over their faces with the usual redundant remark "Ah..you're from Quebec". By the third day I got tired of this and (cause I can pull it off), I switched to a Parisian accent, from then on, I sailed under the radar thankfully. LOL
Here's my true story:
DeleteI once worked for an ecommerce company in Montreal and the majority of our business came from Europe, namely France.
My employer was born and raised in Quebec, yet I'll never forget the first time I heard him take a customer call from France. He suddenly was speaking with the hoity-toity accent and was quite brash with the customer. When I asked him what's up he told me that under no circumstance do we ever speak with our Quebecois accents with them.
He told me that they simply don't respect or like us and that most of them will push for refunds if they suspect we're Quebecois because they see us a push-overs.
Yep - the separatists remind me of the Loony Toons cartoon wherein the little dog keeps chasing and jumping over the bulldog to no avail. They also chase their tails seeking respect from France who have absolutely no interest in being associated with them at all. France will choose Canada over a separate quebec every day, all the time. They are much more interested in a stable relationship with the ROC than with an unstable quebec.
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKUDRW9EA2c
DeleteI'm thinking Quebec logic is a bit more like a Mel Brooks comedy.
DeleteWe can have all the same politics as the pre-war nazi, but as long as the govt doesn;t do something "symbolic and cultural" like have everybody wear armbands they somehow think "Quebec is totally different".
Such is the PQ mind tho. They emulate and adapt policies of third party dictatorships and the "socialist national party" yet somehow because they are missing the clothing to go along with it they think it's totally different.
Such is the power of "symbols" to a PQ Quebecer.
An nazi is only a nazi because of his clothes not his thoughts.
In this way they always excuse themselves and their new repressive laws.
Les Juifs ne pouvaient s'enfuir...Mais vous,si.
DeleteI am quite familiar with France..been there many times. I can tell you that many french people have a hard time understanding les quebecois. They often will put subtitles on television in France when a Quebecois is speaking as the accent is just too hard for them to comprehend. And after living years here in Quebec the reality is that Quebecers have a lot more in common with North Americans than they do with people from France.
DeleteQuebecers like to think they are more European..better food culture and overall culture but its pretty marginal. I would say there is a bit better food culture here than the rest of North America but many Quebecois eat total crap like the rest of North America..and watch the same crap on tv. I think they are dreaming also if they think French people are enamored by Quebec. In fact in many case when french people move to Quebec they often feel Quebecois are somewhat hostile towards them and I have seen this on many occasions.
So basically les Quebecois dont seem to like too many other groups other than themselves. They want their cake and they want to eat it too and they want another cake made right after. They want the money from Canada but they want total control over the laws in this province even if it means discrimination against anglos and one of the official languages in Canada..they want francophone immigrants but they dont want the Muslim or black ones..but they also dont really like the ones from France because they feel inferior to them..they dont really want to work but prefer to work for the government or any of the many government owned institutions that are primarily funded by money from the very high taxes that private enterprise and individuals pay..of which a large percentage of this money comes from anglophones..how convenient.
I suspect if they do one day vote for seperation then their demands will be totally unreasonable..they likely will still want canada to share costs with them for the military..and countless other functions..they will want to keep the canadian dollar and so on. I hope if the day comes..that Canada will completely sever ties with Quebec..to me if they want to seperate then its a completely clean break.. no sharing of anything..they deal with their own currency..their own military..because as we have seen time in and time out les quebecois in general are always looking for a way to scam the system.
Slow clap
Delete@complicated
DeleteYou summed it up fantastically!
Standing Ovation!
@complicated
Deletewatch out mate. you are usually level headed but you let this one slip...
"but they also dont really like the ones from France because they feel inferior to them..."
that's totally false. french dudes are totally welcome in quebec. of course riffs can happen. nobody ever pretended that french and french canadians get along seemlessly but generally they integrate very smoothly. i understand why you want fabricate an alternate truth here. isolating french canadians against the rest of the universe is a cool fantasy for the average canadian angryphone and the easy way to project one's own inadequacies.
More likely YOU are fabricating an alternative truth pinstripes. I'm tempted to think so because of your obscene motives for hanging out here.
DeleteIs this yet another way of compensating for your sense of insecurity? Why would people make up that quebecers aren't particularly open-minded or welcoming to anyone except their own kind, if it weren't true? Lol Mmmm. Let's see now, ah yes...The Charter of No Values comes to mind!, maybe this is why they think you people are hostile.
You can dress this charter..anyway you like (pun completely intended), a dress code??? Lolololol
It's totally Fascist bullsh*t, any way you slice! and just cause you keeping insisting on standing in the corner with hands across your ears shrieking no, no no, doesn't make reality less true.
Quebecers are unwelcoming and the charter of no values, (we don't give a crap how you spin it,) is proof positive you don't want anyone around, who is different than you. You are xenophobic and you have basically outed yourselves by introducing this charter.
Miss ToTo serait donc voilée?Hmm
DeleteYes and pinstripes is a Janette. What one can't reconcile is how she looks at herself in the mirror after what she said yesterday. According to her it's no big deal that Muslim women are discriminated against, apparently it was happening before, so it's old news, no big, and her tone, totally unapologetic. To think she's a female and against her own kind. She has no business calling other people misogynist. It is pathetic to think that student is a girl and she hates other women. Dysfunctional much?
Delete@anectote
Delete"More likely YOU are fabricating..."
by jove. capital letters! you got me there mate. screaming. so much easier than addressing an argument.
"Is this yet another way of compensating for your sense of insecurity?"
no.
"Why would people make up that quebecers aren't particularly open-minded or welcoming to anyone except their own kind, if it weren't true?"
i responded to this very question in my previous comment. wasn't it satisfying?
"The Charter of No Values comes to mind!, maybe this is why they think you people are hostile."
i don't think so. the french have had their own version for a hundred years. and it's more stringent. i'm pretty sure the french are fine with quebec's effort towards secularity.
"a dress code??? Lolololol It's totally Fascist bullsh*t..."
no it's not. every employer has one. are all employers facists? no. on the other hand, you, yesterday, wrote that a big brother police state is not a bad idea. now that's a fascist idea. do you see the difference?
"the charter of no values, (we don't give a crap how you spin it,) is proof positive you don't want anyone around, who is different than you."
no that's not it at all mate. this charter proposal is proof positive that many people in quebec (and canada) think it's about time to put constraints on religious accomodation and kick religions out of quebec public institutions. quebec courageously did it once with its own religion it has now to complete the work and block other gods from crawling in.
"You are xenophobic and you have basically outed yourselves by introducing this charter."
no i'm not. what makes you think so? do you have a reasoning on hand or only slogans?
"According to her it's no big deal that Muslim women are discriminated against, apparently it was happening before..."
i was responding to the argument that racist incidents were the result of the charter proposal. somebody wrote it was a new phenomena. i never wrote that it's not a big deal. i understand it's easier for you to make up arguments that you can reach. but please don't do it again.
"She has no business calling other people misogynist."
why not, if the other people is misogynist?
"It is pathetic to think that student is a girl and she hates other women."
i don't understand this line? why do you say i'm a girl? and asusming i am a girl, where did you get that i hate other women? you really don't seem to care about making sense do you?
I love when you make this lengthy posts, this is when we know we've gotten under you skin. I didn't read it by the way. You will have to live with the fact that you flipped the bird yesterday to all Muslim women yesterday in a totally dismissive tone, it was clearly no big deal for you that these poor victims are being subjected to this hate and discrimination on city buses. Being female why do you show such aversion and disrespect to these women?
DeleteDo you hate all women or just Muslim women?
This is the only thing I saw and read and boyyyyyy is it revealing!
Delete"no that's not it at all mate. this charter proposal is proof positive that many people in quebec (and canada) think it's about time to put constraints on religious accomodation and kick religions out of quebec public institutions. quebec courageously did it once with its own religion it has now to complete the work and block other gods from crawling in."
I think it is interesting you use the term..."kick out"
So you want to kick Muslim women out? Or you just want to kick Muslim women? More bird flipping????
@anectote
Delete"...this is when we know we've gotten under you skin."
no it just means you previously wrote loads of crap.
"I didn't read it by the way."
why not?!? how else will you know that your speech is low quality? plus it's well written in a neat style. you're missing out mate.
" you flipped the bird yesterday to all Muslim women yesterday..."
when was that already?
"it was clearly no big deal for you that these poor victims are being subjected to this hate and discrimination on city buses."
no no it is a big deal. it's just not new and that was the argument i was running down. you misunderstood again.
"Being female why do you show such aversion and disrespect to these women?"
why do you specify i'm a female? is it ok for males to show aversion and disrespect?!? and where did you get i'm a female?
"Do you hate all women or just Muslim women?"
i don't hate anybody. life is too short to nurture hate, mate. you should let it slip, otherwise you'll turn out like you.
do you have other questions? better ones maybe?
@anectote
Delete"This is the only thing I saw and read and boyyyyyy is it revealing!"
read the rest then, it's full of revelations custom tailored for you.
"So you want to kick Muslim women out?"
not muslim women but religion. can't you read mate?
@ Sylvain Raciste,
DeleteThis ditz deserves what's coming to her. She has clearly demonstrated that Muslim women being discriminated are no big deal. She has turned it into a complete joke apparently, not even once apologizing for what she said. And she continues to show disregard and disrespect. It is vile.
Is this how you were brought up pinstripes? You ought to be outed, you deserve to be shown just as much disrespect as you show these Muslim women.
@anectote
Delete"...not even once apologizing for what she said."
what did i say that i should apologize for. please quote me.
"Is this how you were brought up pinstripes?"
what does "this" stand for mate?
"You ought to be outed,..."
editor says no. show him some respect. here's the definition as i'm not sure you ever eard of the concept: an attitude of deference, admiration, or esteem; regard. pissing on his rules doesn't fit mate.
Muslim women throughout this entire province are owed an apology by you pinstripes, you have treated them like a punch line and you should be ashamed. We'd like to hear you apologize to them.
Delete"no that's not it at all mate. this charter proposal is proof positive that many people in quebec (and canada) think it's about time to put constraints on religious accomodation and kick religions out of quebec public institutions. quebec courageously did it once with its own religion it has now to complete the work and block other gods from crawling in."
Deletestundent, don't you find it then a tad dishonest on quebec's part to accept religious people as immigrants and then, after being accepted, moving thousand of miles and building a new life, tell them sorry, we don't hire religiously observant employees? don't you find it deceiving? who knows, for shits and giggles, someone should sue the quebec government for misleading its immigrants... since the immigration process is quite rigid, I am sure one can add a few questions here and there that would easily eliminate the religious applicants, or at least the ones not willing to renounce their religion and even adhere to quebec's main religion... and since quebec so 'courageously' removed religion from its public institutions (has it really?), why then are not banned all religious symbols big or small - they do, after all, represent the same thing?
@p. darwinopterus
Delete"...I am sure one can add a few questions here and there..."
i agree with you after the charter is passed they should tell immigrants about it before they come over.
"the ones not willing to renounce their religion and even adhere to quebec's main religion..."
the charter doesn't ask for anyone to renounce their religion. you are ill informed mate.
"...why then are not banned all religious symbols big or small - they do, after all, represent the same thing?"
you're right there is an apparent contradiction there, the whole blue room crucifix thing. following this logic quebec would have to change all village's names and its flag. i think this would be innapropriate. so the line has to be drawn somewhere. remove jesus from over the head of the president, but live with the flag and st-everything street names.
@anectote
Deletewhich part of "please quote me" don't you understand?
@student
DeleteI love how you mention that people are fed up with religious accommodations as a justification for the Charter of Values.
Would you happen to be aware of precisely how many religious accommodations are made on a daily basis in this province? How many complaints are made because of religious accommodations?
The problem is not religious accommodation. The problem is PKP manipulating the Quebec public into thinking there is a problem in order to sell TV ads and newspapers.
There are 240,000 muslims in this province of 8 million. About 0.3% of civil servants are muslim.
What kind of society is so closed, so insular, so deathly afraid of anything not like itself that it feels the need to create special laws to shut down anyone who does not, superficially, look exactly like itself?
-Kevin
@Editor,
ReplyDeleteReding your new blog post this morning, I could swear you sounded a lot like our minister for Montreal, LOLOLOLOLOL, great role-playing by the way. Lol
A little off topic but very important. I have not seen this anywhere in the English media and it is a scandal!!!!
ReplyDeleteIs anybody wondering about the work ethic in this province? Is anybody wondering why our productivity is so low in this province? Is anybody wondering what it`s like to work a tough construction union job? The interview is in French.
"How it takes 16 employees 12 hours to move a little fence around and around in Lac Mégantic and how you are paying their salary to do it!
Interview with an employee who was hired to decontaminate Lac Mégantic, he didn`t appreciate being told to grab his ass all day and pretend to work. He was told in no uncertain terms that he asked too many questions and was told to get lost.
Ah the sense of entitlement pervades this society Laurie and to such a point that they don't even realize it! Shameful but not to them that believe they are perfectly within their rights to demand it.
Delete@Laurie
DeleteNo surprise the Unions rule the roost. They're the other puppet master behind the scenes, I suppose the puppet masters take turns based on the occasion of the situation. Lol
Question is, how do we stop the charade?
@Laurie
DeleteIt's totally relevant, because we all know who those lazy turds are going to be working for.
Actually, a while back someone here posted a link to an article about something like Toronto vs. Montreal and it compared the student strike in Quebec to Toronto's startup scene.
Can anyone find it and re-post it?
@ Laurie
DeleteWow, I can't believe all the buck passing in that report. Kudos for the employee who worked two days for bringing some media attention to the Lac Megantique cleanup scam. The ex-employee said one job would normally be taken care of by 2 people for maybe a few hours and instead they had 16 people working 12 hour days doing absolutely nothing. Free meals, free accomodations...I just can't believe the waste!
I guess this is how the corrupt PQ and their construction friends get the economy going...
@sylvain raciste
Delete"Can anyone find it and re-post it?"
i think you're the one who should look for your own stuff mate.
Yes, and let's remember, this abuse is going on under the PQ, now.
DeleteMore annoying pointless trash @ 7:16
DeleteSylvain Raciste,
DeleteI was unable to find the exact story you talked about. Although, I did find this:
http://startupnorth.ca/2012/11/20/toronto-vancouver-waterloo-where-is-montreal/
Montreal not in top 20; Toronto ranks 8th.
Troll Alert lol First World Promble,s
DeleteI think when the budget comes out in March, the PQ government will NOT be tumbled. Why would the CAQ vote against it and lose so many seats? I think the CAQ will have a virus going around their MNAs and enough of them will be home with the flu so that the budget will pass....Editor is correct in saying that the CAQ can be ignored because they will not vote with any intention or conscience, they will just thing about saving their own hides.
ReplyDeleteThis is true across the board, and true of all MNA's. We just saw it with the voting on bill 99. The problem is no one ever makes anyone accountable in reference to a upholding standard, at least no one in main stream media. It will always be about rote ting their cushy jobs.
DeleteProtecting their cushy jobs
DeleteLD
DeleteThe CAQists have a clear option to save their elected asses, then can "cross the floor" and become Liberals without an election. They can claim to their voters that they are doing what's best for Quebec's economy. The Liberals would take them in with open arms.
The problem is that they could also cross the floor and join the PQ which I think would be more likely as they are a separatist party anyway. The only thing that may stop it is Legault's dislike of Pauline and having to work for her would probably hurt his pride. I think all their members will have to look at their individual ridings to see exactly where they will fit better if they want to retain their jobs!
Delete@LD
DeleteIf he is smart politically, he would do that. He will never sway PQ votes, those are pretty much spoken for, but he may have a chance to win and acquire greater credibility with Liberal voters, who as we know, most of the time vote that way cause they feel they have no choice. Just sayin'
@AnecTOTE - Do you not think the each member will have to consider where their riding votes lie - either with or without Canada?
DeleteWhy would the CAQ join either the Liberals or the PQ?? It would be political suicide..they brand themselves as a real alternative to the other two parties and their platform shows that. They are the only party that has made a committment to change the way we have been governed over the past 50 years. They are the only party on record as stating they would not talk about constitutional issues for 10 years..that their main priorities are cutting taxes, cutting waste and dealing with unreasonable unions.
DeleteThis party IMO was a great chance to unite the more fiscally conservative anglos and like minded seperatist/non-seperatist francos. There are many francophones who are fed up by the corruption..the high taxes..the mismanagement..the weak economy..the obsession with language..but some of them still have seperatist leanings..but they want to see a government in power that will fix the big problems here in Quebec. Likewise I believe most anglos are in this category.
The problem is that most anglos refuse to consider any party that is not 100 percent federalist..they would prefer to support an incompetent and corrupt federalist party that has a very poor record than supporting a new party which has some seperatist links even if many of the policies of this new party are exactly what many anglos want to see. Likewise there are also many francophones who live and die by the quebec nanny state and find the CAQ threatening their cushy lifestyle. So the only way the CAQ could form power is off the backs of a united anglo/franco conservative seperatist/federalist joint force.
And once again if the CAQ actually is able to move this province away from the brink then I could care less what they do in 10 years. At least during those 10 years we might see lower taxes, a better economy, less militant unions and less corruption. I believe its well worth any risk. I dont see any downside risk..if the PQ win the next election..especially a majority which is a real possibility then the anglos are all royally scr**wed. If the Liberals win again then its more of the same..more debt..continued indifference to the anglos..continue slow decline in Quebec. I see little chance in the Liberals winning a majority anytime soon.
They would join one of the other parties to keep their jobs complicated - that's what politicians do; especially our politicians in quebec. Whichever way the wind blows, they will follow. And do you think the unions will ever vote for the CAQ when they promise to take them on? I think the whole party is in trouble because of the mentality of the quebec voters.
Delete@cutie003
Delete"They would join one of the other parties to keep their jobs complicated..."
as things stand they can keep their jobs until 2016. that's what they'll do unless their numbers increase and an election can better their position at the national assembly. if you want to see the pq down you need to start cheering for the caq cutie003. what are you gonna do?
OK, we already talked about how the upcoming budget numbers are likely to hurt the PQ in a major way, but I think this is going ot be far worse:
ReplyDelete"Depuis plusieurs semaines, le Fonds de la FTQ tente par tous les moyens d'empêcher la commission Charbonneau d'utiliser ces enregistrements. Mais le 18 octobre, la Cour d'appel a tranché en faveur de la commission en l'autorisant à se servir des écoutes dans le cadre de ses travaux."
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2013/10/28/le-grand-retour-de-pereira
Given that the FTQ and the PQ are essential one and the same, I think La Marois has hung herself by getting the commission started.
They're all guilty of collusion and bribery - there is no doubt about it but the seppies will not believe it until they are hit over the head with the evidence. Maybe then they will recognize that this province is going down the tubes but they are so pig-headed, even then it may not sink in that their whole culture is crooked and unethical.
DeletePreview of Quitting Quebec which is going to be on CTV News at 6:00 on Wednesday:
Deletehttp://montreal.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.1514752
Cutie - I see "Quitting Quebec" as the only viable option left. Whether the next government is Liberal or PQ is meaningless now, both will continue inflicting damage on this province and its people for years to come until it is literally unlivable...and that isn't very far off. I'm not just speaking economically, the PQ has opened Quebec's own Pandora's Box with the so-called Charter of Quebec Values. Whether it passes or not isn't the point, they've ignited something extremely dangerous. A government releasing a pictogram of ethnic "targets"? The average Quebec citizen doesn't see this as what not to wear, but who is the enemy of the state and an invitation to take action into their own hands. Allow an ignorant government to send dangerous messages to an even more ignorant population? We're talking fire and gasoline here. It's not a matter if violence will erupt, it's now when!
DeleteNothing will change here. Not the corruption, not the hate, not the downwards collapse towards the very bottom.
Even the Equality Party 2.0 has given up and called it quits. They were certainly not our saviors from this mess, far from it, but they were at least symbolic. Someone, ANYONE, who would stand up and defy the racism and hate we've been facing the past 40+ years. If we cannot even have that, then all is lost....
"We're talking fire and gasoline here"
DeleteQue diriez-vous plutôt d'un homme souffrant de la maladie de Parkinson et d'un litre de Nitroglycérine.
I admit it is depressing Apple - Partition is the only answer for our area, that's for sure. We can't live with them but we sure as hell can live without them without any problem whatsoever. Their choice, time to go.
Delete@apple iigs
Delete"I see "Quitting Quebec" as the only viable option left."
where are you off to mate?
"mate" is going to learn how to fly an airplane.
DeleteThen next time the PQ hold a brain trust meeting all in the same hotel, he's going to save Quebec from itself!
Seriously tho, it's a testament to the weak mental condition of Richard Bain if he couldn;t figure out a better way to take some seppies out.
Little does the PQ realize that they with all the hatred they create in society, they "ferment" people like that with axes to grind.
@cebeuq
Deleteyou've got violent fantasies mate. eeew.
do you also blame americans for september 11th attacks on them?
Hey folks,
ReplyDeleteSince the topics of discussion here are always serious, I thought I'd break things up a bit with some humor completely unrelated to our usual debate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mao7lRVMgKc
Swear to God I can't watch this without having a sore stomach afterwards.
Hope you all find it as funny as I do.
Funny Sylvain - thank you - we all need to laugh once in awhile.
Delete@Editor - Can you please zap student's comment. She's blatantly trolling again.
Delete@sylvain raciste
Deletehaha! good one mate. very funny video. keep it up.
Le PQ a déjà des règles d'éthique strictes...Contrairement aux "liberals"
ReplyDeletehttp://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/politique/politique-quebecoise/201310/28/01-4704529-le-pq-a-deja-des-regles-dethique-strictes-affirme-pauline-marois.php
Off topic but here's another example of a contest where Quebec residents are not welcome to participate. The contest is linked to National Geographic and the popular Jeopardy television quiz show.
ReplyDeletehttps://secure.sonypictures.com/tv/shows/jeopardy/sweepstakes/lindblad/?hs308=email
Preview of Quitting Quebec which is going to be on CTV News at 6:00 on Wednesday:
DeleteLe PLQ adopte son code d’éthique: tous les députés doivent démissionner
ReplyDeletehttp://lapravda.ca/le-plq-adopte-son-code-dethique/
Héhé!
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ReplyDeleteYou have to change the web address, Cutie. It goes to the login for outlook.com
Deletejust lose the links cutie003. you can't do it.
DeleteThanks Roger - went back to check if it worked and it didn't so I just deleted it. You can check our the Conservative Party of Quebec Website anyway - sure all videos are available there. They are a federal party and just getting up and running.
DeleteI wish we could lose you.
Delete@cutie003
Deletelikewise mate.
Cutie003, I think she is already lost.
DeleteI took a look at their website: http://particonservateurquebec.org/en/
I saw the leader's video on the Charter of Values. It's okay. It's not for me but I'm sure that it will be an option for some people. It's always good to have different options.
He does have Claude Garcia in his party, who was the president of Standard Life, and who has often spoken of privatising Hydro Quebec, which I believe is a good idea, considering the amount of debt we are in.
The other thing that should be privatized is the stm. Can you imagine earning what they earn and the bloody perks they get to drive a bus? I hear people saying all the time that it's just cheaper to take their car most of the time. Someone was telling me that she has her boyfriend drive her every morning to cote vertu metro but it is impossible to be dropped off there. Basically, they force to take the bus and obviously have to pay the ridiculous bus fares.
DeleteThatcher had the balls to do it in the UK, let's see who will have them to do it here, but I suppose the first thing is the unions have to go. That's the first order of business.
@anectote
Delete"Can you imagine earning what they earn and the bloody perks they get to drive a bus?"
how much do they earn and what perks do they have?
"I hear people saying all the time that it's just cheaper to take their car most of the time."
i think this is pure bullshit. care to share the calculations mate?
"...have to pay the ridiculous bus fares."
what woud be a fair fare in your humble opinion?
Speaking of which:
Deletehttp://www.montrealgazette.com/news/montreal/City+Côte+objects+plans+reserved+lanes/9093769/story.html
More bloody congestion to be expected because of dedicated bus lanes for buses that are too expensive to take apparently.
Your first order of business punk, is to apologize to Muslim women everywhere, for your shear disrespect, apathy and overt dismissive attitude for the abuse they are enduring. You are a dishonor to women everywhere and you won't get the time of day until you duly apologize for being so cavalier and nonchalant towards the bulling and intimidation they have endured since the introduction of this stupid charter.
DeleteYou will be boycotted until you do so and everyone should follow this lead.
"and nonchalant towards the bulling and intimidation they have endured since the introduction of this stupid charter."
DeleteLe meilleur est à venir ... ...
@ Anectote
DeleteThere was a time when unions represented the workers as they should and they were valuable for such things as getting minimum wages and having some regulations in the workplace.
That time has long passed and as for unions in Quebec, as can be seen in the Charbonneau Commission, they are as corrupt as they come. They no longer represent the workers. The head of the unions represent themselves and they try to figure out how to scam the most money they can from our economic system. They are fat, lazy, and lose their workers jobs through their intransigence
I think privatising the STM might be a good idea. Imagine if transit workers had to try to be nice to their customers in order to keep their jobs because the owners of transit would want to have repeat customers. And you're right, for driving buses, STM workers get too many benefits and too high of a wage compared to the private sector. Who has to pay for that? The overtaxed taxpayers of Quebec.
@RR
DeleteDon't even get me started on the AMT. Because there is no metro going to the West Island, West Islanders MUST commute by train to get downtown. Do you know how substantially more expensive a train pass is than your regular OPUS card? Screw it, I stopped taking it and now take my car. The best is their so called security agents who make $55k starting salary apparently..to do what exactly, I don't have a clue. Every time I see them, they are standing around and at odd times they will show a customer how to work the ticket machine. Freakin' sickening.
@anectote
Delete"...who make $55k starting salary apparently..to do what exactly, I don't have a clue..."
right. you don't know how much they're paid and you don't know what their job is. but you're brash enough to have a firm opinion on the matter nonetheless. fascinating.
@AnecTOTE
DeleteIt kind of sounds like the union driven construction workers with a government contract that Laurie was talking about (for the Lac-Mégantic clean-up). Sometimes you can't blame the workers. You have to blame those in charge. I think alot of workers would be happy to do nothing but stand around all day and chat with each other for money. That why certain services should be contracted out to the private sector (which are hopefully not union controlled) or there should at least be competititon from other jurisdictions (outside Quebec) for contracts to keep things in check, which is something that Bill 101 prevents to a large deal. Quebec has to open up to the rest of the world to succeed.
As for transportation, at least you have your car. I feel sorry for people who live in the west island and have to rely on the public system.
Hey Cutie, read this webpage On Imperatif Francais:
ReplyDelete- To ensure that French is the common language in Quebec public use language that everyone must know and speak , otherwise learn;
Totally unacceptable, now french has to be the common language of all in Quebec!
- Will understand that everything is in French only, in addition to being perfectly legal, is for everyone without exception, and that French is the language of inclusion, the common language of diversity , language to share ;
Not true, re-read Bill 101, it sets out the truth about english right isn the province.
- Cease to practice institutional bilingualism and encouraging thereby excluding the non- learning French and anglicized ;
How ironic from the group that wants Ottawa and Ontario bilingual. This from the group that accused former Ontario premier Mike Harris of being racist. Mike Harris in 1990 saying he supports French language services in Ontario:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYtv3IOnsY4
Do you think a seperatist would have said that? No! Who is the Racist? Lucien Bouchard
- To be committed to act against theft, fraud and corruption practiced by many Ontarians who , although residing in Quebec , evade their obligation to pay their taxes in their home province to pay for Ontario , flying and their fellow citizens who are thus forced to pay more and too many taxes and taxes;
Oh god I can't beleive Mr. Perrault still believe this conspiracy theory.
- Undertake to organize an extensive promotional campaign , released in Ottawa and Ontario, enhancement of membership in Quebec , Outaouais to counter the campaign in Ontario by real estate developers who invite Ontarians settling in Gatineau , never bother with promoting Quebec's identity and the French character of our cities and villages.
Why don't you raise the funds yourself, welfare frauds.
He is literally killing our real estate market with his damn nonsense.
DeleteYou notice he is telling our voters to vote carefully in the upcoming municipal election without mentioning which ones are supporting HIM and his racist views and bigotry. He was really pissed at the mayor's meeting last week because he wasn't allowed to stand up against the anglophone group that had organized the meeting. I'm telling you straight out though that the guy running against our mayor is an outright separatist. I've had it confirmed that our mayor isn't as much as I can confirm that because they say what they want of course depending on who is asking the question. I was outright honest with Stefan and told him I will not support his running partner because he is a separatist. I will still support Stefan because he has always been straight forward and helpful to me and everything he puts out is bilingual.
Here is what McPherson says about the potential election:
Deletehttp://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Macpherson+Another+months+government/9092635/story.html
You are right. The guy challenging Marc Bureau is a separatist. I will not be voting for him. Although. Mayor Bureau second mandate was better than the first, I will be supporting him for his third.
DeleteGlad to hear it Liam - better a devil we know.
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ReplyDelete"You want to start shit with me?"
Deleteno i don't. what is it that gave you this impression mate?
@anectote
Deleteare you pushing another contributor to break the blog's rules? i think you should be more respectful for the editor if you want to keep the privilege to post on his blog.
Sounds like you're a little afraid and you're hiding behind Editor's good graces. You should fight your own battles or are you just too much of a coward and have to run for cover? I have to repeat that this is a blog for grown-ups and little girls shouldn't play with fire..savvy? Lol
Delete@anectote
Delete"You should fight your own battles..."
of course, but i still need to call out gross disrespect when i see it. it's just me.
Typical separatist mentality: "It's ok if I do it, but if you do it it's plain wrong."
DeleteKeep going student, keep going. You'll see what's going to fucking happen.
"You'll see what's going to fucking happen."
DeleteEncore des menaces ... Lol
Hey racist we dont tolerate threats on this blog. Grow up and shut up!!
Delete@Marc
DeleteI'll tell you what really don't tolerate here:
1. Noobs who suddenly appear just to pontificate just as you have
2. Trolls (you already appear to fit that bill)
3. Separatists (you're defending one of the biggest scumbags trolling this site, so I guess we know what camp you belong to.)
4. Double-standards: People like S.R, Student, Y.L and others here have published many veiled threats here, only to get away with their buffoonery.
Buck stops here little man - besides, I'm not going to hurt student - I'm only going to out her identity.
@S.R: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 at 10:13:00 AM EDT
Delete"You'll see what's going to fucking happen."
Encore des menaces ... Lol
AND YET JUST 13 MINUTES EARLIER:
Tuesday, October 29, 2013 at 10:10:00 AM EDT
"and nonchalant towards the bulling and intimidation they have endured since the introduction of this stupid charter."
Le meilleur est à venir ... ...
World heavyweight hypocrisy champion.
At 10:10:00 AM EDT s.r. ...(in response to what I had written: "and nonchalant towards the bulling and intimidation they have endured since the introduction of this stupid charter.")
DeleteThe troll wrote:
" Le meilleur est à venir ... ..."
Well...that sounds like a threat as well ....or is it a threat to Muslim women, in particular?
Gee ....marc archambault, didn't see you leap to deliver the same message to s.r.
I suppose like that little punk student you don't give a flying crap about Muslim women either and the despicable abuse they've been subjected to since the into of his charter?
Thanks Sylvain ...for confirming that it has all the indications it is one.
DeleteLe meilleur dans le sens que le jeu devrait se calmer avec les immigrants post charte.
DeleteIs Celine Dion endorsing the PQ values charter?
ReplyDeletehttp://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canada-politics/celine-dion-endorsing-parti-quebecois-values-charter-155718081.html
Excellent!Beaucoup d'indécis viennent de choisir leur camps :)
You mean celine is a janette? Lol lol who's surprised? HAHAHAHA
DeleteJust another in a long line of francophone hypocrites.
DeleteOn ne dit plus "francophone",nous sommes des Québécois depuis plus de 50 ans.
DeleteCeline Dion is American.
DeleteWhy do we care so much about our little artists opinions on everything in this province? I've always found that a bit pathetic.
DeleteLoco Locass, Roy Dupuis, Céline Dion, etc etc...
There's always an "artiste" ready to chime in on any social topic in this province, from the exploitation of our natural resources to language laws to elections.
Are these people suddenly experts on everything simply because they've been on TV?
I'd say that these people have even less credibility than any regular "nobody" citizen, as they generally don't live in the "real" world. When your entire live is funded by the government, I'm not sure you represent the population. Tell Roy Dupuis to go work for a living and pay taxes for a few years, then I might be more interested in what he has to say.
Does anyone really care what Céline Dion thinks about our province, from her castle in Las Vegas while her husband spends millions on a few poker games??
Do you mean that we have nothing to learn from Miley Cyrus and Justin Bieber about government and social issues?
DeleteI couldn't agree more - what the hell do we care what these people think about anything? God, it's not like they live the life we do in any way, shape or form. I can see teenagers caring but anyone past the age of 17 should know better. It's a sad reflection on our lives that our politicians care what they think either.
Delete"Celine Dion is American."
DeleteElle aura donc de l'influence sur les canayans.
@cutie003
Delete" It's a sad reflection on our lives that our politicians care what they think either."
which politician care about celine dion's opinion? i missed that bit.
"Elle aura donc de l'influence sur les canayans."
DeletePlutot sur les quackbecois comme toie.
Unfortunately, Roger Rabbit, your approximation of French is not really helping the cause.
DeleteObviously, for healthy societies around the world, imperfect efforts at speaking (let alone writing!) their language are gladly welcomed with open arms. It is only in unhealthy societies, specifically such as that envisioned by Quebec nationalists who revel in perpetual victimhood, that such efforts are viewed negatively.
I was trying to respond in hillbilly so that SR would understand
DeleteHa Ha - even the great language bigot Brule didn't show up for the militants meeting - some of these politicians are finally catching on that being bilingual isn't a curse!
ReplyDeletehttp://montreal.ctvnews.ca/top-candidates-snub-meeting-with-language-hardliners-1.1515704
@Cutie
DeleteOnce again thank you for that link. What I found particularly interesting were people's posts at the bottom, and especially this one:
"Language should be a non-issue. How about the blue collar pension plans that have almost as many on 'over the top' pensions as those working? How about taxpayers being held hostage if the market drops and the pension plans lose money? Who supports my pension plan - me and no one else. How about the infrastructure? How about investors? How about the over-taxing of Montreal citizens on car licences and gas? How about the West Island largely ignored when talking about Metro extensions? Who will stand up to the Provincial Government when decisions they make negatively affect Montreal? We have so much more to worry about that affects all Montrealers no matter what language we speak and answers to these questions should be what we're looking for in a future Mayor. Montreal is a multi-cultural city - we need to vote for what's best for Montreal and if best for Montreal will be best for all Montrealers. This focus on language is what put Montrealers and all Quebecers in the mess we're in - Montreal drives the economy in Quebec and we need to focus on what needs to be done to see it continues without impediment."
And the native guy who basically tells everyone, "you're All immigrants" lol I think I've said that once or twice.
Again thx Cutie.
Coderre, for his part, has expressed no plans to touch the language dossier. He has frequently repeated that, “everyone is first-class citizen” and noted that three of the four flowers on the city flag represent non-francophone groups.
DeleteRead more: http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/top-candidates-snub-meeting-with-language-hardliners-1.1515704#ixzz2j4e0cf2K
Bang on. Coderre would het my vote if I lived in Montreal. The English, Scottish and Irish all built Montreal. We need to take back Montreal from the separatist and make it a true bilingual city.
"and make it a true bilingual city"
DeleteBonne chance...Vous en aurez besoin :)
@ Liam
DeleteI agree with you that Coderre has the right attitude for running Montreal. I do live in Montreal and I will vote for him. He has been the strongest against the PQ's Charter of Xenophobic Values and as immigration minister, he knows how to work with people of different backgrounds, perfect for Montreal. Although he is considered an old style political backslapper type politician, I do not see this as a bad thing. As he says, he likes being close to the people.
I would not vote for Cote because Harel is part of his Coalition and she, true to her PQ background, has been making noises about having a French language commissioner or something of that nature. No more language police, thank you very much.
Bergeron is a no because he wants to blow our money on a tram fantasy while saying that our infrastructure is okay, which it is not.
As for Melanie Joly, she has no experience and I didn't like when she answered in an interview that we must move on from corruption by allowing corrupt construction companies to bid for city contracts if they pay money back to the city.
No, let's not give them contracts, Melanie. Let's just expect them to give money back to the city.
Coderre will become the next mayor of Montreal and I am glad that I will be voting for the winning candidate.
Bergeron is a 'no' because he is a crackpot. He stated that 9/11 was an inside job by the U.S. and he also believes that man never walked on the moon. He wouldn't receive a very warm reception from Americans if he ever had to travel to the U.S. on business as mayor of Montreal.
DeleteIs there something in the water here? We have more than our fair share of nutty people that's for sure.
DeleteVous seriez surpris de voir la quantité d'amerlocs qui pensent la même chose et ce qui est encore plus stupéfiant,à mon avis,c'est de constater le nombre impressionnant d'amerlocs qui croient toujours que l'humain est l'oeuvre d'un dieu quelconque.
DeleteI like Côté better, harel notwithstanding, I think he's a strong enough manager, he'll handle her appropriately, basically shuting her up. I think Côté will be an excellent mayor, we need someone with a great business sense, enough with the politicos already, sooty.
ReplyDeleteI don't think voting for a party where one would have to hope that one would shut up the other is a recipe for success. I am sure that Harel would get along famously with the PQ government now in power, and that would mean trouble for Cote. You have made your point, however, that he has business sense and I have made my point that Coderre knows how to get things done politically, in my opinion. So, to each person, their own. I think my candidate will win, though =P
DeleteI agree he'll win by a landslide since it is Montreal, and Montreal has a propensity for the Libs. It's too bad, cause if Côté didn't have to bear the cross of Harel, who is just out to save her own skin or she's on the hook to pay back sh*tloads of money in taxes if they don't get in even as opposition, I think he would stand a real chance. There's something honest about him. Yeah imagine actually saying that and feel total bewilderment, like Honesty today is a rare Find. How depressing for us all.
Delete@roger rabbit
Deletevote for coderre's union montréal if you prefer the city to be run as it has been run in the last ten years. he's your man if you don't want things to change.
I agree AnecTOTE - I don't live there, as you know, but watching the candidates I too feel that Cote is the most honest and straight forward of the lot - Too bad about Harel; she is a real millstone around the guy's neck. Roger's right though, Coderre will walk away with it. People know the name and his political experience will carry the day. We could probably do with less politicians and more business people in these elections especially here in quebec but they're smart enough to stay back and watch it all happen.
DeleteFriends in low places (wink, wink):
ReplyDeletehttp://www.linkedin.com/pub/julien-larocque-dupont/57/787/95
8540, avenue De Gaspe, Montreal
A drinking buddy.
I'm not sure I understand who this random person from the internet is.
DeleteI'm assuming it's some rabid seppie PQ supporter that has to spend all day working with english computers making web sites.
Poor seppie, having to work to make money in English.
How do we know he works in english? There are 500 approx ENGLISH computer languages. There are 3 french ones and all the french ones are OBSOLETE.
Poor seppies, having to struggle from insult to insult.
Ce n'est pas la langue qui nous offusque,ce sont les individus...comme vous :)
Deleteso what'up with julien larocque dupont sylvain raciste?
DeleteJust spoke to a headhunter from a decent shop the other day. Usually this is his busy season & he's doing OT & weekends and all. Right now, dead, nada. The market don't lie folks.
ReplyDeleteInvestors ‘more comfortable’ putting money into gas projects in Iraq than Quebec: says head of Quebec Oil & Gas Assn.
ReplyDeletehttp://business.financialpost.com/2013/10/28/investors-more-comfortable-putting-money-into-gas-projects-in-iraq-than-quebec-banker/?__lsa=7d55-b5a6
"Millions in market capitalization were destroyed." Right on! This is Premier Marois dream, stooping private sector employment in the Province. Moratorium on a deserted island, moratorium on fracking in unpopulated and away from water sources. The way the Premier is acting, the welfare frauds in Gaspesie shouldn't work for a living. The corruption in welfare cases in the provinces of Quebec is astounding.
“I think it would be very hard for me today to go out and raise any money for any project in Quebec.” Yes bankers are reluctant to raise money for the racist Quebecois project. Are we surpassed? Absolutely not. Take Redpath Sugar a former Montreal-based company, they moved their headquarter and refinery to Toronto. Would they continue investing in Quebec. Absolutely not! This is the future of the Province! What should we do? Call their bluff! Look at the action of the premier. She refuses to pass a budget. She knows that when Quebeckers realize she has no clue how to balance the budget, the story that anglos don't anglos don't listen to Marie Mai won't be enough to re elect her. This Premier will be defeated! I will be voting Conservatives.
Thanks Liam - we are tanking for damn sure. Says a lot about quebec when we have no one willing to put or keep a cent here. Don't know how many candidates the conservatives will have for the provincial election. Not enough to go around I'm sure. We will have to wait to see when the witch will be brought down or will call one herself.
DeleteAnd catch the CTV News at noon today via the internet and what Carole has to say about the new exodus of both anlophones and allophones from this lousy province. So far, 17,000 since the election of the PQ. Should make the seppies happy; driving out our tax dollars again. Pretty soon they will be alone to copulate amongst themselves which is what they are striving for obviously. Sickening society where no one feels at home except the bigots. God, it is so disgusting.
ReplyDeleteCutie, they have already tried to "copulate amongst themselves".
DeleteThe hinterland of Quebec is already suffering the effects of a small gene pool and it's not pretty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacsin
or
http://www.medgen.mcgill.ca/SACSIN/
It's obviously not a big leap from genetic diseases to "students" inbred lack of deductive reasoning. At least we know the root cause for the "la petit petit janette" hiding in her parents basement getting paid $7/hr to troll on anglophone boards.
Obviously Peledeau and Marois kids arn;t going to waste their time making $7/hr doing that. they are getting educated so they have options to leave Quebec after it fails.
It's only "les autres" like student that get left behind and can;t figure out what went wrong.
Ah but she so deserves it cebeuq - I can't wait until the day they're all in the soup line - spoiled, selfish idiots.
DeleteJustin Trudeau est un bel exemple de croisement génétique entre un Québécois et une anglo : Une étrange créature canadienne bipolaire...comme sa mère.
DeletePretty low blow, SR.
DeleteOf course it is, Roger Rabbit. That is the reason why he has been allowed to post here: he helps the federalist cause by demonstrating the vacuousness of your standard, run-of-the-mill, typical separatist. Personally, I think it would be best to leave good enough alone by leaving his asinine stupidity dangling out there by its lonesome for everyone to see and judge for themselves.
Deletehttp://tvanouvelles.ca/lcn/economie/archives/2013/10/20131029-115125.html
ReplyDelete"Pour la première fois en dix ans, l'investissement minier dans la province diminuera, selon des données recueillies par l'Institut de la statistique du Québec."
"D'ailleurs, le mois dernier on apprenait que sur les 11 projets majeurs annoncés au cours des dernières années, plus de la moitié sont remis en question ou ont subi des révisions à la baisse importantes."
PQ Power!
"PQ Power!"
Deletehere's a better explanation for you as you don't seem to have had a view of the big picture: http://tinyurl.com/mvx3cn9 .
metal prices have dropped.
More crappy news about the resource sector:
DeleteAlcoa menace de plier bagage
Quebec is one of the best places in the world to obtain cheap and abundant electricity. I am surprised Aloca can threaten to pack up and leave as I am not sure where they would go. However I would be even more surprised that Pauline would call their bluff when 3,000 jobs in the Saguenay are on the line.
@Student
DeleteNice try mate but... that article is from late May. How 'bout providing us with a more up-to-date status on the metals sector?
Alex
@alex
Deleteyou can check for yourself here: http://www.lme.com/metals/non-ferrous/#tab2 .
although prices seem to have bottomed since july they are still much lower than at the beginning of 2013. this explains why there'll be less mining investments in quebec this year. a 10 per cent drop is nothing to cry about. mining is a volatile sector. i'm glad i could help you understand things mate.
@Student
DeleteHmm, won't have anything to do with the PQ increasing royalty rates as well would it???
Alex
@alex
Deletehow much were the royalties increased already? i could look it up of course but since you think this is the main factor you must have this info readily available.
@student
DeleteI never said it was the main factor mate. But it is one of the factors. As for how much it increased by, ill let you look that up.
http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.1518473
ReplyDeleteGovernment incompetence at it's finest, it seems like the PQ knew about the PCBs in Pointe Claire when they were in power 12 years ago and did nothing about them. This from the party that wants more powers, when they aren't even responsible enough to handle the the powers they have now.
It is more important for the separatist to target anglos. Enforcement of Bill 101 is more important then the environment.
DeleteIf this was a normal province that would be headline news in ALL the newspapers but because most of our journalists are separatists, it will make a little para on the back page of Le Devoir.
Delete@thatguy
Delete"it seems like the PQ knew about the PCBs in Pointe Claire when they were in power 12 years ago and did nothing about them."
that's false. there was a failed inspection report in 2001, the company didn't comply and finally they were found guilty of illegal storage in 2003. then nothing until 2013. the period while which something should have happened is 2003 to 2012. does it ring a bell mate?
@thatguy
DeleteI am sure the reason they didn't give a sh*t is because it's in the West Island, it's always neglected but the PQ takes special pride in ignoring all together.
Un candidat de l'Équipe Coderre démissionne
ReplyDeletehttp://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/elections-municipales-2013/201310/29/01-4705017-un-candidat-de-lequipe-coderre-demissionne.php
Mauvais,très mauvais pour Coderre
let's see if our mate roger rabbit still thinks coderre is the best pick to clean up montreal.
DeleteYes I do, thanks for asking. One person had to leave the Cote-Harel team and Melanie Joly had to get rid of an escort from her team. These things happen. Basically one canditate from each party has had to go.
DeleteThe most important thing is the leader and Coderre is the one that most Montrealer's know and trust.
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DeleteWell at least we know our veteran is getting the care he needs now:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.cjad.com/cjad-news/2013/10/29/veteran-at-centre-of-hospital-language-fight-being-transferred-to-ontario#comments
So much for trust in the quebec health care system in our time of need.
And at the Charbonneau Commission:
Deletehttp://www.cjad.com/cjad-news/2013/10/29/current-pq-ministers-name-comes-up-at-charbonneau-commission?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
he he he as SR likes to put it! First of many of the PQ to be outed!
Oops - wasn't there a couple of others a few months ago? Sure I heard that somewhere wherein Miss Piggy asked the commission to "tread softly"! Damn shame that all this is coming back to bite them in the ass right Miss Piggy? Pure as the driven snow, right Miss Piggy? Whole culture of thieves and thugs - something to brag about alright.
Delete"[...] he head of the FTQ's construction wing, Jocelyn Dupuis, is overheard saying he wants to speak specifically with Elaine Zakaib, a current PQ minister," A separatist named at Charbonneau Commission? Impossible! Only the Liberal are corrupt according to unemployed Student.
DeleteLe rapport est d'environ 1 péquiste pour 20 "liberals"
Delete@liam
Delete"A separatist named at Charbonneau Commission? Impossible! Only the Liberal are corrupt according to unemployed Student."
yes she was named. the ftq boss wanted to speak with her, as she was a ftq fund manager, about a project. and then the ftq fund did not invest in said project. them are the facts.
what's your point liam? is your capacity to grasp a situation so low that you'll accuse all names that come out in every piece of evidence shown before charbonneau? by jove are you bad.
@Liam
DeleteThe FTQ runs the PQ, if and when they find it is corrupt to the core, well you know what they say: guilty by association.
The Truth is always the Hero, and finds its way to the surface, ALWAYS! LOL
It should comfort us to know the longer this deadbeat party stays in power, the faster it'll implode. I call Ring-side seats lol.
@Liam
DeleteOn the news tonight the've just repeated:
"[...] The head of the FTQ's construction wing, Jocelyn Dupuis, is overheard saying he wants to speak specifically with Elaine Zakaib, a current PQ minister," A separatist named at Charbonneau "
Okay, that was fast lolololololololololo...where's Miley Cyrus?....Wreakinggggg Ballllllll lol
Where there is smoke there is Fire. !!!
What will be hilarious to watch is that since the PQ is in Power, when ALL the 'chit', lol, is uncovered, it will be the PQ's responsibility to be the heavy with their friends from FTQ, otherwise they lose face...
DeleteLOLOLOLOLOL, I know I know..like they give a crap.
Don't forget the construction workers strike this spring, and how the PQ was willing to give the unions pretty much everything they wanted, probably as a "Thank you" for starting and supporting the student crisis last year, which helped get the PQ in power.
DeleteLuckily the opposition didn't let the PQ give these criminals everything they wanted.
http://www.lapresse.ca/le-nouvelliste/actualites/201306/30/01-4666499-lopposition-fait-reculer-le-pq-fin-de-la-greve-de-la-construction-mardi.php
This seems to have gone mostly unnoticed, people in this province tend to be very selective about what gets to them. I don't really think any union corruption will cause much outrage in this province. The separatists don't seem to mind being robbed, as long as it's by one of their own.
START THE COUNTDOWN, FOLKS!
ReplyDeleteWHOOMP! HERE IT IS! We're on the cusp of Caroline Van Vlaardingen's two-part story of The Quebec Exodus again. Be sure to watch it on CFCF at 6pm. Don't miss it! I'll catch it on the 'net. Tell everybody you know within the CFCF viewing area to watch, and for those you know outside the viewing area, send them the link once it appears!
To the fellow featured in the preview: Welcome to Ontario. We can use your mind, your expertise and best of all, your tax dollars! Remember: The license plate reads YOURS TO DISCOVER. Once you do, you'll wonder why you didn't leave sooner!
Mississauga,
DeleteJust for shits and giggles, I chose my plate as "Tant a decouvrir".
'YOURS TO DISCOVER"
DeleteDécouvrir quoi exactement ? Lol
http://blogues.journaldemontreal.com/sophiedurocher/societe/ctv-et-la-peur-de-la-charte/
Delete"Imaginez: vous êtes un anglophone, vous avez accès à des universités et des hôpitaux en anglais mais dans un resto de la rue St-Laurent vous ne pouvez pas commander des pastas. Scandale! Honey, let’s pack our things ! We’re leaving this godforsaken province where we are treated like animals !"
DeleteHahahaha!
Selon statistiques canada :
DeleteL’Ontario a perdu 17 000 personnes vers une autre province en 2012. Le Québec en a perdu 6 000.
Allez!!Une petite dernière...
Delete"(Gee. J’imagine ce que CTV ferait comme reportage s’ils s’intéressaient aux francos du Manitoba. Ou du Nouveau-Brunswick. Ça, ça ferait pleurer dans les chaumières.)"
Sadistic, sick bunch of bigoted francophones that deserve to be spit on! Their f---ing attitude will drive this place to civil war where they will go cry in the corner at the treatment they will get and deserve from the rest of North America. I'm hoping the day comes sooner than later and feel more like that each and every day. Their whole f---ing movement must be stopped before they harm anyone else!
Delete"Selon statistiques canada "
DeleteNo links?
Voilà ...
Deletehttp://www.td.com/document/PDF/economics/special/jb0613_interprovincial_migration.pdf
J'ai oublié...Page 3,premier tableau.
Delete"sick bunch of bigoted francophones that deserve to be spit on!"
DeleteCe ne serait pas la première fois :)
Comedian Guy Nantel reminds us of the depth of thought that Quebecers bring to the PQ’s proposed charter: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=613808025351786
ReplyDeleteNo surprise that the Jews seem to be the only people in that video with decent logic.
DeleteVery discouraging but true - the provincial government in this province has total control over everything:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.montrealgazette.com/news/doesn+matter+wins+Montreal+mayoralty/9097942/story.html
La fonction principale du gouvernement est effectivement de...Gouverner.
DeleteEditor, I recommend this article for you. As an anti-status quo blogger, you should be aware of these things.
ReplyDeletehttp://wakeup-world.com/2012/10/03/pay-for-comments-confessions-of-a-paid-disinformation-internet-shill/
This is quite interesting, thanks for the link.
DeleteIf this applies to our resident seppies/"trolls", they aren't very good at their job.
Although their posts do seem to upset many of you, so maybe they are...
Governments Hire Web Trolls to Sway Public Opinion
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zVgy9Jk0Ec
http://www.montrealgazette.com/business/Alcoa+threatens+shut+Quebec+smelters+reports/9101488/story.html
ReplyDeletehttp://www.theglobeandmail.com/commentary/dear-celine-dion-youre-wrong-about-the-veil-law/article15132164/comments/
DeleteAnd the unions in this place are not crooked:
Deletehttp://montreal.ctvnews.ca/convicted-criminal-worked-hand-in-hand-with-ftq-leader-1.1520018