Wednesday, February 22, 2012

Pauline Marois Throws in the Towel.

Looking at the polling numbers and realizing that her dream of becoming the next Premier of Quebec is a nonstarter, it seems that Pauline Marois has made the only rational and expedient decision that she could, that is to save her own ass derriere.

Her decision to go hardline, that is, to embrace a platform that includes a referendum and promotion of independence isn't as bold or dangerous a strategy as one might imagine.

If you're going to lose, you may as well stand on principle and be seen as an honest separatist rather than a dishonest waffler.

It seems to me, that after the inevitable electoral loss that the Pq will suffer, Marois will be able to look hardliners in the eye and say 'told you so," instead of having the hardliners blame her for the loss because she soft-pedaled sovereignty.

For Marois, it's the only pragmatic avenue left open that will maintain her leadership.

The Pq itself has realized months ago that they are bound to occupy the benches of opposition for the foreseeable future.
You can always tell when a political party knows that it isn't going to win power anytime soon, they come up with the stupidest  policy proposals that nobody but nobody can take seriously.

The federal Liberal party proposal to legalize marijuana is just such a fantasy as is the PQ's proposal to allow 16-years olds to vote, or the nonsensical idea of publicly triggered referendums as proposed by the awkward fool, Bernard Drainville.

But let's not soft-pedal this stunning turnaround in direction by Marois.

For years she avoided pushing a referendum strategy, in fear that it would insure an election defeat, but with an election defeat a near certainty, the sovereignty/referendum platform becomes a viable option. At least she could get back the hardliners and maintain a certain credibility as a political force.

Why am I so sure that the Pq can't win?
Well, even with the polling numbers indicating that the three parties are neck and neck, it still looks like a difficult road ahead for the Pq.
As soon as the Liberals play up the spectre of a losing referendum and if they craftily describe such an undertaking as a further humiliation for Quebec after the inevitable loss, Quebecers will back off the Pq.

Even if that isn't the case, it's likely that a minority government will ensue and a coalition between the Liberals and the CAQ will happen. That scenario is more likely than a PQ/CAQ coalition, because in order for that to occur, either the PQ or the CAQ would have to betray it's most fundamental position over a referendum and be seen as betraying its base.

At any rate, back to Marois, who is orchestrating her 'Save Marois' plan with the consummate skill of an orchestra conductor.
In creating her new committee for sovereignty, she craftily cobbled together a collection of political lightweights, artists and has-beens, a group created in her own image and easily controlled and manipulated.
No Parizeau, Curzi, Aussant or Landry, just a bunch of nobodies.

Well-played!

No doubt that the committee, full of brightly scrubbed and eager faces will dance before the cameras for the amusement of all, like performing monkeys doing back flips for the edification of the masses, a classic and cynical case of  Panem et Circenses.

I am reminded of a favourite Shakespeare quote from Macbeth;
"a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing. "
As the election draws near, look for the majority of the separatist 'betrayers,' those who quit the Pq (Aussant, Curzi, Lapointe, et al.) to return, cap in hand.
(This doesn't include Louise Beaudoin, who won't be running.)

As things stand now, they are all dead politicians walking, not one will be able to save their National Assembly seats under the independent label and for these political animals, that is a fate worse than death.

For the betrayers, Marois' newly minted election platform putting sovereignty front and center is the excuse they need to return to the party.
Marois will accept their return like the proverbial prodigal son, as long as they agree to toe the line.
Again, Marois the manipulator, displays the master's hand, adopting the maxim first enunciated by Sun-tzu;
"Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer."
Although Marois has been dubbed the 'Concrete Lady,' I'm not sure it is appropriate.

I think the Pq and Marois should adopt as the theme song for the next campaign, Gloria Gaynor's "I'm a Survivor" just as long as they can get somebody to do a French version.

114 comments:

  1. She's an ignorant woman who should nor represent any Canadian's french or English.

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  2. Now, if only the Pq could throw the towel as well...

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  3. Boring topic, barely worthy of mention at all. The woman is how les Canadiens played last night...a big goose egg!

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    1. Will they fry her, poach her, make an omlette blanket covering her, or most appropriately, scramble her?

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  4. Editor,

    The phrase "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer." is misattributed to Sun Tzu. In fact the only documented sources for that quote refer to Michael Corleone in Godfather II.

    http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Sun_Tzu

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    1. It's Machiavelli, but it's not an exact quote.

      http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_said_%27Keep_your_friends_close_and_your_enemies_closer%27

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  5. PQ...not a popular choice with their pseudo referendum policy in place. now...a ruse for sure.

    CAQ....likely the most popular bunch if they didn't make the mistake of bringing language into the issue with further reinforcement of the langue francais.

    Libs...awful choice with all the allegations of corruption etc.... Charest,however, is a skillfull manipulator and and old dog at politics...Seems he wears a suit of Teflon...or maybe asbestos:)

    Anyways, I think if the PQ goes down and doenst generate a lot of postiive support the sovereigntist cause is likely done.

    Of course, Quebecers did vote for the NDP in the last election federally. Very strange bunch and sometimes strange results.

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    1. "Anyways, I think if the PQ goes down and doenst generate a lot of postiive support the sovereigntist cause is likely done."

      »Naaahhhhh, they're not done. Like an egg, they were at first poached, then they were scrambled and next they'll come back as fried. Either that or they'll be camouflaged as the CAQ-ers!

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  6. Quebecers voting for NDP were voting for Layton the Man (whatever faults may be attributed to the him), and happy to have a half-trustworthy face to vote for. Mainly, like I've said before, it was a vote AGAINST BQ/Lib/Con, rather than FOR NDP. Recalling all those I know who voted NDP, there was a strong contingency of 25-40 year olds who were/are looking for something else. Sadly, we don't seem to have that option this time around.

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  7. "Sadly, we don't seem to have that option this time around."

    Certainly not Charest (might have an half trustworthy face) but events would inidcate "not trustworthy"

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    1. John James "Goldilocks" Charest is the Quebec government, not the feds. Trust me, Layton was even less trustworthy than John James "Goldilocks" Charest if that's even possible, but I'd say so because there is no way in hell Layton would have been able to deliver. He was the sacrificial lamb putting his party in on impossible-to-fulfill promises. He'll never be around for the fallout.

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  8. Hey No Dogs, what a pathetic article. As you stated yourself, they are statistically tied with the Libs and the CAQ, and are the only party currently gaining votes since the beginning of the year. FYI, this also means that the Libs are going to get absolutely destroyed outside their core anglo strongholds. And yet apparently it's Marois that is in trouble...

    Black is white, hot is cold, up is down in No Dogs land.

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    1. And not even 6 months ago the libs were polling in the pits, just you watch, the PQ will be sinking. Despite all the scandals, the corruption that Marois is tied should worry you, if the PQ had a chance they woul be the clear front runner, they are not even close to that.

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  9. THe CAQ, PQ and QUebec solidaire might cancel each other from getting a majority. Liberals might squeaker through due to split in the pur laine votes.

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  10. There should be a reasonable, centrist Quebec provincial party (kind of like what the CAQ seemed like at first). They should be neither here nor there with respect to language/culture/nationalism (reassuring the public that everything is fine with the French language and it's well-protected as is, which would be a massive understatement), and focus more on actual problems such as corruption/unemployment/construction/economy (which Quebec has tons of). Such a party would be really popular with the general public (except for pur laine nationalists) and lead all the polls, but the nationalist media would go out of its way to wipe it out of existence, kind of like what happened with Ron Paul's presidential candidacy.

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  11. L'étau se referme lentement mais surement sur la minorité canadienne de Montréal.

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    1. Actually, it's rather the opposite, buddy. it's the Qubecois who happens to be the Minority in Montreal?

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    2. Ya and pretty soon "Les Quebecois de souche" are going up to their armpits in mosques

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    3. "Actually, it's rather the opposite, buddy. it's the Qubecois who happens to be the Minority in Montreal?"

      Une minorité sans aucun pouvoir mais qui nous rapporte du cash...Yessss!

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    4. Comme les separatistes que donne des impots au Canada! Oui!!!

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    5. Avec 8 milliards de plus...Merci les canayens :D Good deal!

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  12. The more the PQ chats up Separation from Canada, the more south their polling numbers go. Aslin has a good cartoon in the Gazoo today about it. Flogging a dead horse.

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  13. "You might say, well it's oppressive to force people to learn french. But that's just the deal - no one is forcing these immigrants to move to Quebec."

    BANG!

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  14. @seppie

    They don't come to Quebec, they come to Montreal, Canada. Where most of them find jobs and support from the English sphere of the city.

    BANG

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    1. People immigrate for economic reasons, not to shore up dying, backward ass cultures and languages that no one else speaks. Don't you find it odd that after 400 years, French in North America has experienced near ZERO growth outside Quebec's borders? That speaks volumes. The Québécois Nation (Metis in denial) should take a page from the Mohawk or Iroquois Nations and target growth from within. That immigrant kid from Bangladesh or Hong Kong that you coerce into Frech school won't be the ones to save Québécois Nation from being wiped out. Laws like Bill 101 just hinder the natural progression of English from taking over by artificially propping up this weird language that no one understands.

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    2. "You might say, well it's oppressive to force people to learn french. But that's just the deal - no one is forcing these immigrants to move to Quebec."

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    3. so what's your point seppie with the statement you copy-posted above?are you out of arguments to defend your points!!!seems to me your out of juice right now and not really in a position to counter-strike!

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    4. What a lot of these Septards don't understand is that the immigrants that get in the door via Quebec, by in large hightail it out of here after 5 years to other provinces where they can actually prosper. If they actually talked to these immigrants instead of telling them what to do they may have some clue as to what is happening.

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    5. "so what's your point seppie with the statement you copy-posted above?"

      Que si les immigrants ne veulent pas apprendre notre langue,ils ont une multitudes de destinations autres que le Québec.Si je veux manger chinois,je ne vais pas dans un resto italien.Qu'en pensez-vous?

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    6. Wow, three lines, Seppie? It must have taken you all night to write that! Where to start: people migrate to Canada, not Quebec. Quebec is IN Canada, so if you migrate to Canada, there is a chance you might end up in Quebec. Or you might choose Quebec because you look up the statistics and you see that there is a majority of the population that in TWO SUCCESSIVE REFERENDUMS voted to REMAIN CANADIAN (Notice: not to BECOME, but to REMAIN!). Also, people might choose Quebec because they see that at least half the population speaks Globish, so they think they can still function, work and settle while they get to grips with the funny local dialect. Or they just like the cheap housing. Or they see a place like Montreal with people from all over the world and think it must be a good place to land, find your footing and then, maybe, create a business to make themselves rich and, by ways of repaying CANADA or Montreal for the good hospitality, create some jobs for the locals. But then they might not settle in Saguenay, where everybody speaks French. However, if given the chance they might visit Saguenay and, given it a bit of thought, once they had the time to familiarise with the language, decide that they like it after all and that they are ready to live life in French. However, the odds are that this won't happen when the Nordiques treat everyone who's not as pig ignorant as they are as if they are the scum of the earth. To a lot of people coming to CANADA bilingualism is a selling point, as it allows to hear a different side of the story from different outlets than the usual suspects. And, given that Quebec is THE MOST BILINGUAL PROVINCE IN CANADA that might prove an attraction. That, and the fact that the choice of where to migrate is a lot more complicated than the choice of a restaurant (not that you'd know, as no one would have you: Ottawa doesn't pay your welfare abroad...). Of course, I have been advised that Ottawa might be a better bet and reading this blog and other media outlets I'm beginning to see what lurks beneath the manipulated statistics, and I'm beginning to see some sense in other options, but I'll always be happy to volunteer for the hounding of the sick b**tards who turned the engine of the CANADIAN economy into a socio-economic pariah, a hotbed of corruption and a perfect hideaway for organised crime just because they thought that those problems were not nearly as important as SUPPRESSING THE USE OF ONE OF THE TWO NATIONAL LANGUAGES IN ONE PROVINCE!

      Zobi la Mouche!

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    7. Vous allez peut-être nous quitter ? Mais qui prendra la relève afin de partitionner Montréal? :(

      Je ne savais pas que les immigrés avaient autant d'attentes et d'illusions à propos du Québec.Une campagne de sensibilisation s'impose auprès des éventuels immigrants et en premier lieu mettre l'accent sur certains points importants dont la langue officielle du Québec.

      Correction:SUPPRESSING THE USE OF ONE OF THE TWO NATIONAL LANGUAGES IN NINE PROVINCE!

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    8. No seppie, it's ONE not NINE and you know it, silly!

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    9. "No seppie, it's ONE"

      Comme aux derniers jeux olympiques de Vancouver et sur les ailes d'air canada?

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    10. "Correction:SUPPRESSING THE USE OF ONE OF THE TWO NATIONAL LANGUAGES IN NINE PROVINCE!"

      If indeed you and yours are so worried about the Quebecois 'culture' and language shouldn't you want to be PART of Canada, to ensure language's the continuance in the 'sea' of anglophones? Separating from Ca won't give you too much power. Come to think of it, it would be close to none on this continent. I think all this bitching and moaning is just a lot of bullschlachen.

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    11. Seppie, well done on finally admitting you're Canadian after all. However, you might notice that the difference between French in the RoC and English in Quebec is that people CHOOSE to speak English in the RoC, but are FORCED to speak French in Quebec. And it wouldn't take that much to make the situation fairer on both sides: just teach whichever is the minority language as a foreign language in school, get out of the business of telling companies what to put on their stationery and signs and let people find their own arrangements. Your way of doing things, with its emphasis on confrontation, only serves the purpose of giving you vicarious kicks by fooling you into believing you have some power to wield: in this you're no different from too many Italians back in the Old Country. And still, nothing peculiarly Quebecker about it... talk about phoney identity!

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  15. "Where most of them find jobs and support from the English sphere of the city."

    Tant mieux alors.Pourvu qu'ils paient leurs taxes et leurs impôts à QUÉBEC :)

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    1. It would be fun if Montreal separated from Quebec so it could actually quit paying taxes to the Quebec government!!!That way, the newly-made province would gain a whole lot more in term of taxes and thrive by wider extent.

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    2. Bloc Montreal for a bilingual city state within Canada.

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    3. It would be fun if we can fly...

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  16. I think Pauline Marois's strategy is to firm up her core vote, or as they say in French "sauve les meubles". You're correct to assume that those that jumped ship will probably return to the PQ, their desire to save their seats will trump all else. Also, the Liberals will probably continue to rise in the polls, albeit slowly. The three party race will create a new, and long overdue, dynamic in Quebec politics and the probability of some sort of coalition government is greatly increased. I would like to see a non-Francophone equal rights party emerge. Who knows one day we poor, much maligned, non Francophones may one day hold the balance of power. I am probably dreaming in technocolour, but I for one feel that the Quebec Liberals have taken our votes for granted for far too long and unless they start helping our community soon we should start shopping for another political formation.

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    1. Because you insist on calling yourself the English Community, I repeat this post hoping you will stop helping the seps!!!

      What ever the reasons for the existence of the Room 101 Law may appear to be, lets remember that those who enforce it, do not do it for love of language and culture. I suggest that evidence is plentiful to prove the contrary.

      This kind of overzealous extremism has not come about only because of the hate that resides in the heart of the separatist movement. It was aided and abetted by the now victims too. I remember as a boy how arrogant the English were in their belief that they would never need to learn to speak French. As time passed I notice that many English people decided to embrace the French language and even went so far as to call themselves the English Community. But English Canadians are not a community. They are among the three founding peoples of Canada. They fought in all the conflicts and wars, which threatened the sovereignty and freedom of Our Home And Native Land. It is for that reason that Section 133 of the BNA Act and the Federal Official Languages Act make English an official language of Canada. The self imposed term “English Community” only empowers the separatists to continue their thrashing of the rights of a founding people.

      French and English people of this province have learned to live together leaving the separatist extremist minority far behind. However, these extremists control many functions of government and sabotage the peace towns like Huntington and Montreal have achieved.

      In a healthy society, the pendulum needs to keep swinging, but disease has set in when that pendulum has been taken off its hinge and is being used by one side to beat the other side to a pulp!

      Since the separatist extremist minority will not open its heart, perhaps the time has come to ask:

      "Do you agree that Montréal should become a Province of Canada after having made a formal offer to Quebec for an economic and political partnership within the scope of the will defending the future of Montréal and the agreement of July 1, 1996?"

      VIVE LA PROVINCE CANADIENNE DE MONTREAL!!

      English Community? Just what the separatists ordered!!

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  17. Good thing No Dogs likes to stay anonymous 'cause I don't think he could show his face in public ever again with a laughable article like this. To expand on my comment yesterday, here is a headline from La Presse this morning:

    "Marois bounces back." The PQ makes a spectacular comeback in voting intentions and now leads every other party.

    http://www.cyberpresse.ca/actualites/quebec-canada/politique-quebecoise/201202/22/01-4498820-marois-rebondit.php?utm_categorieinterne=trafficdrivers&utm_contenuinterne=cyberpresse_B4_manchettes_231_accueil_POS1

    Any other smart predictions, oh most incompetent of all bloggers?

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    1. and what about you???why don't you come out of your anonymity so we can laugh at you instead???

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    2. Dans la presse en plus!On devrait assister à une remontée spectaculaire.

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    3. Just like the Bloc when they wheeled out Jacques Parizeau's dentures in last year's Federal election, the more the PQ talks up Seperation, the more votes they will lose. It's the economy, stupid.

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    4. "the more the PQ talks up Seperation, the more votes they will lose"

      Selon La Presse,on dirait que c'est totalement l'inverse :D

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    5. Not The One, La Presse like the rest of the press is playing their own game and has its own agenda. La Presse specifically is known to prop up the PQ when it needs to be propped up, and bash it when the PQ is doing too well. It's been doing it for years. You'll see it if you follow it closely.

      The mainstream press in general is a political force of its own, and its major role is not to provide us with news, but to spin news so as to preserve the status quo. The press is always a guardian of status quo. In the case of La Presse, the goal is to promote the separatist threat when it is on the wane, and discredit it when it starts polling too high, and overall remain federalist Quebec-style (La Presse's chief editor Andre Pratte openly favors the "Reconquer Canada" option, that is stay in it, and spread out the influence of French as much as possible). Essentially, La Presse plays the same cynical game that Quebec as a political entity has been playing for decades, which shows how entangled the paper is with the power centers.

      On another topic, in the article you linked to, I find it funny how the poll results are divided in 2 categories: Francophones vs. The whole of Quebec. It's funny how this sort of racism is so mainstream in Quebec. Imagine a poll published in an Alabama paper that broke down the results between the Whites vs. The whole of Alabama? That would be along the same lines as this.

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    6. La Presse:Pro-Parti Québécois?Pratte:Pro-souverainiste?Un deuxième café adski?Les racistes (angryphones) sont ceux qui votent en un bloc homogène contre l'ensemble des francophone du Québec.Pas besoin de faire de distinction,c'est l'évidence même.

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    7. "La Presse:Pro-Parti Québécois?Pratte:Pro-souverainiste?"

      As I clearly explained: La Presse - federalist Quebec-style, Pratte: federalist "reconquer Canada" style.

      The gang of "souverenist" sheep is just a tool they use to put leverage on the rest of Canada. Which means that occasionally they will side with the the PQ strategically, only to change sides again soon after.

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    8. La Presse - federalist Quebec-style?

      Savez-vous à qui appartient La Presse ?C'est comme si Fox news,pour des raisons stratégiques faisait l'éloge de Obama O_o

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    9. You give me an impression of someone who is incapable of thinking about social issues critically. You seem stuck in the rigid federalist vs. separatist paradigm with nothing in between the two. In the meantime, the hidden agenda of most Quebec politicians is exactly something in between separatism and federalism. Even Parizeau insists that Quebec should continue using Canadian currency and keep Canadian citizenship. And that's the most hardened "separatist" talking. Federalists like Charest, on the other hand, don't flinch from using the separatist threat when they feel Canada's attention for Quebec starts slipping.

      Fox News won't support Obama because Obama is their enemy. La Press will occasionally side whit the PQ because the PQ is not always their enemy. That is exactly the point I'm trying to make. Quebec "federalists" (La Presse) and "separatists" (the PQ) are not always enemies. Their interests do overlap. In fact, the major political current in Quebec is that of federalist nationalism (CAQ, PLQ, La Presse, some in the PQ who now defect to CAQ). Separatism and non-nationalist federalism are much more rare. Much more rare.

      So why don't you use this blog to open your mind on certain issues? You're here everyday, so you might as well use this time to learn something.

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    10. Adski : some of us do use this blog to open our minds. But those who comment on this blog (yourself and apparatchik, and a few others exluced) are often so close-minded that we feel defensive as a result.

      There has been a LOT of racist comments I've seen on this blog. Comments like how Quebec people are all on BS, lazy, entitled, they get immigrants that are inferior because they speak french (really, I've seen people label people from North Africa and Haiti as intrinsically inferior), even labelling Mexicans as intrisically lazy, etc. When you take the same part as those, and don't dissociate with them, it makes it seem like you agree with their racist comments even if you don't. The racism then seems to be representative of the blog in general.

      The editor seems to pull his punches, but he's not much better. Words like poutineism are attempts to disparagate a whole culture.

      And then if you disagree on something, even if you try to argue logically without painting all anglophones with a single brush, you get personal attacks - you are endangerings the blog as an echo-chamber where angry anglophones can come and agree with each other.

      Certainly if you want us to have open minds (which the ones of us who come here regularly DO, otherwise we woudn't come!), you might want to show us you have open minds too.

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    11. And then there's there's this : if there are ever two people disagreeing in the same way, pretty soon someone comes in and accuses them of being the same person.

      It express disbelief that TWO PEOPLE might disagree with the editor, implying that either one of the posters are such a special brand of stupidity that they can only ever agree with themselves.

      It also says that you think disagreers have enough time to lose that they would post themselves agreeing with themselves just to try and make themselves look better.

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    12. So just stop posting things agreeing with yourself, then. It's getting to be ridiculous.

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    13. If you really believe that and aren't just trolling, I feel sorry for you.

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    14. @ Anonymous Feb 23 at 3:55 PM,

      "And then there's there's this : if there are ever two people disagreeing in the same way, pretty soon someone comes in and accuses them of being the same person."

      I doubt you have been following this blog for very long. There is a Quebecois nationalist/separatist troll who has been posting comments on this blog for several years under many different names, such as Seppie, OQLF, 101 ou 401, Martin B and multitudes of others. His writing style is very distinctive. It IS the same person. He is probably trying to make it appear that there are more commentors who share his opinions. Most of his comments are rabidly racist one-liners and they generate angry responses from others not of his ilk.

      "It also says that you think disagreers have enough time to lose that they would post themselves agreeing with themselves just to try and make themselves look better."

      Our separatist troll posts comments to every thread daily and he does occasionally respond to himself. For example, as "Martin B", he replied to "Seppie" and "OQLF" on Feb. 23 at 6:47 AM. Martin B, Seppie and OQLF are all the same guy. He spends a ton of time here...he can't possibly have a job. I wish the Editor would stop humouring him and start blocking some of his crap.

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  18. Hahahahahaha!Je n'avais pas vu cet article,Merci NTO!

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    1. De 21 à 30% dans les intentions de vote...Ho boy!

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    2. it doesn't matter what to vote intentions are! the pq is still bound to fail!

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    3. Le Phénix nous montre son bec...Quel oiseau magnifique.

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    4. Doesn't that mean that 2 in 5 unilingual Francophones still won't vote for the Nordiques (never mind everybody else)? Nobody ever got a majority from 30% of the votes.

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    5. La question repose sur la pertinence de ce parti.30% après tout ce qui a été dit à son sujet,c'est quand même pas mal.Attendons la suite...

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    6. It's not that great. Normally a government like Charest's should be behind by about 10 percentage points but the PQ is not a strong draw.

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  19. @not the one,

    Yeap as usual the poll dismisses the non francophone vote that is significant in the Montreal and Hull areas. The 3 way split will effect the PQ more in its heartland then that of the Liberal voting areas.

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    1. Nope. The Liberals will get their supermajorities in the usial places and are non starters everywhere else. They may end up being "the anglo party", and not by choice.

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    2. Yes, You're right on that point! They will get their supermajorities in their usual places...where they're currently at now, in Quebec City's parliament, you clown!!!

      looks like you have fallen into the trap of your own words.

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    3. "where they're currently at now"

      Pour encore quelques mois seulement :(

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    4. no, no, for a few more years at least!!!

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  20. "more in its heartland then that of the Liberal voting areas"

    Les anglouilles vont encore voté libéral?...Ouch!

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    1. At the moment Anglos and allos vote liberal because its the least worst choice. Back in the 1970s the union nationale was an alternative.

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    2. "Les anglouilles vont encore voté libéral?...Ouch!"

      The proper way to say it would be "Les anglouilles vont encore voter libéral"

      Voter, not voté.

      It must feel awful not to speak a single language properly.

      And yes, les anlouilles and les allouilles will end up voting Charest in for another term. And if we're willing to vote for such a suckie guy again, imagine how suckie the other alternatives are.

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    3. "It must feel awful not to speak(sic) a single language properly."

      les anlouilles?Parfois on écrit rapidement.N'est-ce pas?

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    4. "will end up voting Charest in for another term"

      Même avec les enquêtes sur la corruption?Quelle morale ces anglophones...

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    5. @ OQLF,

      What about the morals of pur laine who vote for parties that would decrease rights of minorities and make policies that make quebec more weak economically.

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    6. "What about the morals of pur laine who vote for parties that would decrease rights of minorities"

      Tout à fait morale et légale de vouloir protéger sa langue et sa culture.Une cause beaucoup plus noble à mon sens que l'appât du gain $$$.

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    7. Seppie, deep down within, you're just a sad lonely loser whose live has taken a wrong turn,convincing himself that the source of his failure is directly linked to the presence of Anglos in the province... People like you have already fallen and won't likely pull any comeback whatsoever to get back on track ...Face it, You're just one of those many "wankers" that has no meaningful ambitions and whose goal in life is to troll around this blog to vent out his rage on those who he thinks are his enemies...Perhaps, you should start taking on the PQ for inducing you into a string of lies and poverty, they are the ones who you should put the blame on. NOT US!!!

      BTW, How is life int MTL-EST or Hocheloga.

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    8. "BTW, How is life int MTL-EST or Hocheloga (sic)"... (Point d'interrogation ?)

      Avec le sondage publié ce matin?Tout va pour le mieux,une excellente journée et surtout une très belle campagne électorale en vue,merci :)

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    9. a "belle campagne elctorale" that will end up being a heart-breaker for you!

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    10. La seule façon de me briser le coeur serait que John James soit réélu.J'ai donc toutes les chances de mon coté.

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    11. Pas vraiment. Le difference de 30% pour le PQ vs 29% pour les Liberaux est dans la marge d'erreur.

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  21. Effectivement les anglophones de Montréal sont dans une impasse.Ils sont coincés avec Jean Charest,imaginez lorsque les histoires de magouille vont sortir dans les médias suite aux enquêtes en cours.La CAQ avec une de leurs 4 lignes directrices portant sur la culture et sur la langue va faire hésiter plus d'un anglophone sur ce choix.Anon feb 23 et OQLF,vous ne devriez pas être aussi "baveux" avec notre minorité anglophone,je crois qu'ils ont assez d'ennuis comme ça,pas besoin d'en rajouter.

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  22. Correction:Pas Anon feb 23,mais bien Seppie,désolé.

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  23. @ Martin B,

    You are the same individual using the names "OQLF" and "Seppie". I find it very amusing to see you respond to your own comments. You're pathetic.

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    1. Yeah, he just want to make seem that the seppies are in a huge number trolling around this blog when in fact there is only one. How pathetic he is if he think he's going to intimidate us just to make us back down.

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    2. Not many "seppies" here for the same reasons you don't get many jews on Stormfront. The basic premise of this blog is franco-bashing, which by definition attracts mainly non-francophone extremists. There's not much to discuss, really, other than pointing out absurd articles like this one. Poutineism??? Ha ha ha!!!

      No Dogs knows his target audience and writes accordingly. He stays anonymous because he knows he'd get laughed at constantly and would likely embarass his Liberal buddies. There's enough idiocy and blatant racism in his archives to ruin his reputation a dozen times over.

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    3. Continuons à jouer le jeu.Pour ma part je trouve l'exercice tout à fait amusant et surtout divertissant.J'adore frapper ces angryphones en bas de la ceinture.Ils me font rire!

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    4. I have read most of his articles up until recently, and none of them bears any french-bashing traits...Guess you should consider booking an appointment with an eye optician just to make sure you're not developing any form of vision impairments, because if you don't, further down the road, you will see things in a blurry way, thus making you interpret stuffs the wrong way ...or maybe it's because you just lack intelligence in understanding the English language clearly.

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    5. "I have read most of his articles up until recently, and none of them bears any french-bashing traits"

      Lisez vous les commentaires aussi?

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    6. Continuons à jouer le jeu.Pour ma part je trouve l'exercice tout à fait amusant et surtout divertissant."J'adore frapper ces angryphones en bas de la ceinture.Ils me font rire"!

      Wow, I didn't know you had such a sexual thrill in "hitting on anglophones"!tell me,do you come on this site just to make your twisted fantasies come true?:)

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    7. Ok,Seppie. if you think this site is too much for you to handle, then why bother coming here???

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    8. Parce qu'il est plus important de bien connaître ses ennemis que ses amis.

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    9. C'est dommage que tu penses que tout le monde qui n'est pas separatiste est ton ennemi.

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    10. Il n'y as pas que des anti-séparatistes ici, il y a toute une panoplie d'anti-francophones aussi (sans que ce soient que des anti-francophones qui postent).

      NB- je ne suis pas Seppie.

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    11. Ouais, mais je pense qu'il y a des commentaire anti-francophone au lieu de anti-separatiste parce que les gens deviennent frustre par les commentaires des certain separatistes sur ce blogue qui ecris des choses contre des anglophones, les chinois, les anglophone, que ecris 101 ou 401 et ecris des choses comme Connard a le fin de chaque message. Il ecrit aussi que les francophones federalist sont des "Elvis Gratton." C'est facile de devinir trop emotional mais moi, je sais que c'est ca que ces separatistes veuillent. Moi, si j'attaque quelqu'un(e), c'est juste en reponse de ce qu'il/elle ecrit comme denigration, mas pas contre les francophones.

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    12. C'est vrai, seppie et 101 ou 401 trollent pour avoir des réactions, mais ce n'est pas une raison pour dire des propos racistes. Surtout si on déplore le racisme suposé des québecois.

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  24. @ Not The One,

    "No Dogs knows his target audience and writes accordingly. He stays anonymous because he knows he'd get laughed at constantly and would likely embarass his Liberal buddies."

    He stays anonymous because he knows that he and his family would likely receive death threats, just like Howard Galganov. After all, this is the province that spawned the terrorist FLQ.

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    1. "He stays anonymous because he knows that he and his family would likely receive death threats."

      Pourtant il n'y a aucune raison.Cela veut dire que nous n'aurons plus la chance de voir naître aucun parti anglo/allo/nono au Québec?Pourtant,avec le nombre de Libéraux qui seront bientôt au chômage,ce serait une bonne occasion de faire du repêchage.De plus,plus il y aura des anglos de votre espèce chez nous,plus les chances de voir naître des groupes extrémistes comme le FLQ sont augmentées.

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    2. Avez vous des statistique de ça? Anyhow, the threat of violence won't do anything for your cause. The majority of francophones, anglophones, and allophones in Quebec would not stand for it, just like the FLQ wasn't supported in the past.

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    3. "He stays anonymous because he knows that he and his family would likely receive death threats"

      That has to be a joke, right? Do you even live here? FYI there are dozens of journalists, bloggers and other commentators in Québec writing everyday about politics from every angle and NONE of the have ever been threatened. What makes Mr. No Dogs so special I wonder? Nothing.

      Occam's razor: He doesn't want to be publicly associated with his writings, or with his "fans". He'd be publicly embarassed.

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    4. Personne n'accepte ces groupes extrémistes mais malheureusement,la plupart naissent ou s'expriment lorsqu'un peuple est poussé dans ces derniers retranchements et ce fût le cas du FLQ dans les années 70.

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    5. To; Not the One

      How come my choice to remain anonymous is somehow worse than your choice to remain anonymous?
      I am amazed at the utter hypocrisy.
      Who I am is as unimportant as who you are.
      If you don't like my ideas, counter them with your own ideas, I promise you a forum.
      Instead, you resort to Ad hominem attacks devoid of content.
      Is that really the best you've got, because it is unimpressive.

      Your insulting comments would not be published on any other blog and you take advantage of the free nature of this forum and my tolerance of practically anything that is not racist.

      However, if you said what you said about another commenter, I would have deleted your comment based on the utter banality and mean spiritness.

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    6. "FYI there are dozens of journalists, bloggers and other commentators in Québec writing everyday about politics from every angle and NONE of the have ever been threatened."

      These bloggers are a boring and spineless bunch spewing out non-controversial mainstream drivel. You can read the same stuff in any of the mainstream papers if you like (including the gazette). Go read Christopher Hall's column at JdeM if you want to hear an anglo blowing smoke up your arse. This isn't the place.
      http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=blowing%20smoke%20up%20my%20ass

      What makes NoDogs special, in my view, is that you get to read criticisms of the status quo that many people identify with based on experience, but noone in the mainstream press or blogoshpere dares to touch upon, preferring substitute topics filled with banality.

      Also, I find your insistence on Editor identifying himself very suspicious.

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    7. TO EDITOR, REGARDING YOUR LAST COMMENTS TO ME

      YOU are the one running a blog attacking any individual or organization connected to nationalists in Québec, and producing biased, incorrect, demeaning, insulting and bigotted ad hominems on Québec culture and values. Someone attacking another ethnic or cultural group with the same zeal (800+ posts in three years), like Muslims, Jews, blacks, mexicans, italians, etc, would be branded a bigoted zealot. Poutinism? Marois throwing in the towel when she's leading? Har har har! Par for the course here at No Dogs.

      Don't get me wrong, rational criticism is fine, but that's not what you're doing. You are intentionally painting a false, misleading and slanderous picture of my province and I find it repulsive. More than 95% of francophone Québécois would ROTFL at your portrayal, as would most of your anglo bretheren I suspect, which seems to be validated by the rather narrow and simplistic points of view of your most dedicated supporters. I'll also note the anemic turnout for that anglo protest you supported last summer near McGill. The real tragededy is that visitors to your site from outside Québec have no idea how distorted and disconnected form reality your site really is.

      Lastly, on the topic of your identity, I honestly understand why someone wouldn't want to be associated with your writings. Your refusal to do so is telling enough. How hard have you worked on this site for the last few years? I'd guess at least a few THOUSAND hours. Most genuine journalists would envy that kind of output. Yet they, unlike you, put their name on each of their articles, opinions or editorials. Their reputation is what gives their views and opinions weight. It's how I know that Jack Todd is an idiot, that André Pratte is a good writer with whom I often disagree, and that Jean-Francois Lisée is someone I like. I don't know who your are, or what drives you to continue this crusade but I do know that you have no reputation. You attack, ridicule and criticise but hide behind your anonymity, and deep down I suspect that you don't really believe half of what you put forward. If you did you wouldn't hesitate to fut your name on it, like everybody else that matters. Maybe you're just a troll, No Dogs.

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    8. What drives him to continue this crusade is no different than what drives the septards to continue theirs. So, it is quite hypocritical on your part to tell the editor to stop doing what he is doing while on the other hand, you keep preaching out bullshit and your political ideology around the internet for whatever fucked up reason it is...You, my friend, seem to feel highly insecure about the articles that the editor has posted! Is it because you simply refuse to face the truth and see things the way they truly are!

      If you want to editor the reveal himself, then I am afraid to say that you will have to do same as well because otherwise, he is allowed to remain as anonymous as you are and for as long as he wishes to be...

      on the side note, if you are not happy with what this site provides, then feel free to leave. We don't need to put up with pathetic whiners and NOBODIES LIKE YOU who try to ruin the concept of democracy and free speech(typical of septards). People here are entitled to speak their minds and voice their opinions as they intend to. GET IT! btw, People like you are definitely a threat to society and so, should be locked away for good.

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    9. Not the One: "I don't know who your are, or what drives you to continue this crusade but I do know that you have no reputation."

      So you know he has "no reputation"? So what.


      "You are intentionally painting a false, misleading and slanderous picture of my province and I find it repulsive."

      Then find it repulsive. Again, who cares.


      "Someone attacking another ethnic or cultural group with the same zeal (800+ posts in three years), like Muslims, Jews, blacks, mexicans, italians, etc, would be branded a bigoted zealot."

      There is a difference between railing against power wielding communities by members of non power-wielding communities, and the other way around.

      So, railing against Jews is different in Israel is different than railing against them in Germany. Railing against the Muslims in Iran is different than railing against them in France. By the same logic, railing against the French in the US is different than railing against francopohnes in Quebec.

      Don't try this prank gain.


      "Most genuine journalists would envy that kind of output. "

      Editor of NoDogs NEVER, not a single time, claimed to be a journalist.


      "More than 95% of francophone Québécois would ROTFL at your portrayal, as would most of your anglo bretheren I suspect, which seems to be validated by the rather narrow and simplistic points of view of your most dedicated supporters."

      They have every right to come here to express their "ridicule", in BOTH in English and French. Unlike for example Jean Francois Lisee, who screens all the comments in English, and withholds many comments in French.


      "It's how I know that Jack Todd is an idiot, that André Pratte is a good writer with whom I often disagree, and that Jean-Francois Lisée is someone I like."

      Wow, back the truck up. You mean to say you like Jean Francois Lisee? What?

      Here is a surprise of the century.

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    10. Not The One,

      "He stays anonymous because he knows that he and his family would likely receive death threats"

      "That has to be a joke, right? Do you even live here? FYI there are dozens of journalists, bloggers and other commentators in Québec writing everyday about politics from every angle and NONE of the have ever been threatened."

      Howard Galganov was threatened. He had to hire bodyguards 24/7 to protect his family, his property and himself when he lived in Quebec.

      Hugo Shebbeare, who campaigns for equality in Quebec and who comments here occasionally, received death threats from a member of the Patriotic Militia of Quebec - Serge Provost.

      The Editor is wise to keep his identity private.

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  25. I find it funny that the 2 separatists on this NDOA website are so excited that the PQ has 30% support and the Liberals 29% support in the latest CROP poll, lol. And this after 9 years of Liberal rule with all the scandals. WoW!

    Wasn't there a poll by that was done a week or two ago by Leger Marketing that showed that the Liberals had 30% support and the PQ 29% percent?

    My gawd how things have changed since that poll, eh?

    You would think the PQ could muster about more support than that.

    Anyhow, when you look at it, the fact that some people abandoned the CAQ to go to the PQ means, in my opinion, that some federalists will abandon the CAQ to go to the Liberals.

    I hope for my separatist friends that the PQ hasn't peaked too soon, like the CAQ before them.

    Bonne Nuit!

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  26. "Also, I find your insistence on Editor identifying himself very suspicious."

    Ce bon vieux adski,toujours aussi suspicieux.J'aimerais bien savoir comment vous réagiriez si le blogue de Louis Préfontaine ou les auteurs de Vigile écrivaient sous le couvert de l'anonymat.

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  27. Youhouuu...Adski?Tout va bien?Pas de réplique...

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  28. Keep it up racist extremist separatist minority and watch LA PROVINCE CANADIENNE DE MONTREAL emerge 'cause there isn’t room enough it Canada for your hate!!

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  29. Je watche,tu watches,ils watchent,nous watchons...

    Prévoyez-vous une équipe de hockey?Allez-vous continuer à vendre de la poutine?Tant de questions...

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