Tuesday, January 18, 2011

Ethnics - When Bashing Turns to Hate

As we learned of the weekend vandalization of five Montreal Jewish synagogues and one Jewish school, it's perhaps appropriate to discuss the rising tide of intolerance sweeping Quebec.

If history repeats itself, the attacker or attackers will ultimately be angry young Muslims and not francophones, who have rarely ever engaged in that type of overt antisemitism. That is because those who have a deep and profound problem with Blacks, Jews, Muslims and other minorities generally don't see themselves as racists at all.

The 'intellectual' bashing of "les Ethnies" is perhaps the most insidious form of racism, when it manifests itself in some sort of presumed 'legitimate' debate.

 When Jacques Parizeau made his injudicious remarks about minorities in his post-referendum speech in 1995, wherein he blamed the ethnics for the referendum loss, he paid the ultimate political price. The faux pas was likely fuelled by a well-lubricated and utterly frustrated politician vocalizing his inner most thoughts, when obviously it was in his interest to shut up.
Clearly he regretted his words and before being told to resign by others, he did the honourable thing the very next day.
But the genie was out of the bottle, Mr. Parizeau had said what so many separatists held, that ethnics were bad citizens because they did not closely pattern themselves after the Quebecois 'ideal.'

And so the notion that immigrants had an obligation to become like their francophone 'hosts,' became popularized.
This theory holds that immigrants should love hockey, eat poutine and bacon, listen to Quebecois music and watch French television. Most importantly, they should dress in western attire and avoid any religious articles of clothing. Regardless of their religion they should be largely non-practising and should avoid marriage in favour of common-law unions. They should abandon their native language, even in the confines of their homes and most importantly they should vote as Quebecois vote, some for federalism and some for sovereignty.
Of all the 'sins' committed by immigrants, the most unpardonable is remaining attached to their own cultural community and fostering a sense of belonging to a collectivity other than the Quebecois nation.

This fanciful dream is championed by Yves Michaud who popularized the theory that ethnics were bad citizens because they voted en masse against independence. Link
When he was reproached by a motion of censure in the National Assembly, for deeming the Jewish community contemptuous of  'real' Quebeckers, he became an instant celebrity and launched the ongoing crusade against the ethnics..

Quebec's separatist website vigile.net is perhaps the most successful purveyor of hate, using the cloak of honest debate and reporting to slip in the most shameful attacks on the recently arrived immigrants  as well as the more established minorities.

Bernard Frappier, editor of the vigile.net website has established a slick formula whereby he reprints news articles from mainstream media outlets that generally, (but not exclusively) supports a sovereignist, anti-Canadian/America/Israeli agenda.

'Jewish' rats abandoning Obama ship
There's nothing wrong with that, except when he salts among these legitimate articles, racist rants from from the fringe elements and assorted hate websites.
Perhaps  the best example is the thoroughly antisemitic article Mr. Frappier republished. Read a post about it

But the fun really begins in the section entitled "Tribune Libre " where crackpots readers can contribute a very special brand of hate. Here, pseudo-intellectual flights of fancy attack immigrants, established minorities, Canadians, Americans and of course the perennial favourite, Jews and Israelis.

It is on these pages that these pompous racists espouse a very special kind of hate tinged with paranoia and fantasy.

Let me share some of the more 'interesting' opinions.

Rejean Labrie is one of the most prolific hate-mongers contributors and has produced such pearls as; "Who should be allowed to vote in a referendum" You guessed it, certainly not immigrants!

In another article, "the next mayor of Montreal to be a multi-ethnic" he mockingly frets that the next mayor of Montreal will be a Haitian who has converted to Islam.  Even if you don't read French, click on the link to see the photos he's included with the article. I don't think we'll need to launch an investigation to discover that most of the pictures were shot outside Quebec.

He reminds us in another article that inter-marriage between Anglos and Francophones should be discouraged and tells us in another missive that it isn't too late to reconquer Montreal and take it back from the ethnics who are turning the city into a 'bidonville' (shanty town)

Of course nothing will top off his antisemitic denunciation of rich Quebec Jews from Montreal and Laval who control all the banks as well as the government through the insidious and pervasive Jewish lobby. While I won't bother to respond to a conspiracy theory, I would like to know if he can actually name one rich Jew from Laval, I can't!


Jacques Noël complains that there are too many ethnics in Quebec's parliament. His deconstruction of 'ethnic' names would make an attendee at the Wansee Conference proud. His methodology leaves a bit to be desired as he counts Russell Copeman twice, as both an Anglo and then separately as a Jew, thus boosting the 'ethnic' numbers. Come to think of it, at the time he wrote the article, Copeman wasn't even a member of the Assembly, having resigned two years earlier. Sheesh!
Admitting that anglophones are under-represented,  Mr. Noël tells us that having an anglophone Premier, makes up for the shortfall. Yup, according to him, Jean Charest is an Anglophone!
Of course, to him, it makes sense that there are too many minorities depicted in Quebec television shows and commercials. Mr. Noël labels this over-representation  as a case of 'pernicious multiculturalism.'

The list of these types of articles is endless.

Separatist after separatist discuss the scourge of the ethnics as if they were nothing more than dogs.

Cleaning up Montreal and restoring the city to its historical ethnic purity is an open obsession of the sovereignty movement. It is racism pure and simple.

There are apologists who say that people in the Rest of Canada are as racist and as intolerant, but try as I did, I couldn't dig up any article calling for the ethnic cleansing of the Chinese in Vancouver and the reconquering of Toronto's black neighbourhoods.

The closest I came to finding a racist story was a mildly offensive Maclean's magazine article that discussed the effect of so many Asians attending Toronto universities. The controversial article quoted some white students saying that they wouldn't go to the University of Toronto because of its high Asian enrollment.
That story did not go unnoticed and did not go unpunished.
Over 2000 comments denounced the article as racist and a Toronto city councillor demanded that;
".....his fellow councillors to distance themselves from the views expressed in the article and ask the magazine to say it is sorry for the “negative stereotyping of the Asian-Canadian community.” LINK
I promise you that the article in question was not one-tenth as racist as any of the ones I have linked to above.

Articles on vigile.net don't get wide distribution, but they cannot be ignored, just the same.

Unfortunately, the anti-ethnic racism is spilling out to the mainstream and that is where it becomes dangerous.

Tomorrow; Racism in the mainstream media.

54 comments:

  1. Your link to http://draft.blogger.com/goog_580315011 seems to be broken.

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  2. Soon be the day where "les ethnies" will carry Yellow FdL's on the lapel with the words: "Non-Assimilé".

    Btw Ed, small typo in the paragraph indicating Tribune Libre (But the fun really begins in the section....), Should be pseudo, not psuedo :)

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  3. A general observation – has anyone noticed that it is virtually impossible to “integrate” with the Quebecois? How the knowledge of the French language doesn’t really guarantee you anything? I mean, after all, you still have an accent (no matter how slight), a foreign sounding name, different political inclinations, no patriotic drive ...I know “ethnics” who mastered the Quebecois French down pat (including the Quebec accent), and they are still considered less than worthy.

    All of this makes me think – is Bill 101’s purpose vis-à-vis immigrants to integrate them with the Franco side, or is its purpose to ensure that they don’t integrate with the Anglo side? If an immigrant can’t really integrate with the Franco side by default, the role of 101 seems to be to prevent such immigrant from integrating with a side with which the integration is at least possible. So maybe integration is not the objective of 101. Maybe the real objective is to ensure that the immigrant remains “ethnic” and is used to do the jobs that a self-respecting Quebecois won’t do? That he remains part of that “lower” race which makes the Quebecois “maitre” feel better about himself? That he remains tethered to the Franco side, since crossing over to the Anglo side might make him too “independent”?

    Losing immigrants to the Anglo side would also mean empowering the ONLY Quebec minority that poses a danger to the primacy of Quebec majority. All other minorities are too fragmented, and too “new” to pose such danger. So maybe it’s easier to keep them divided and attached to the “maitres”, rather than allow them to unite around another common language.

    So what is the role of 101 finally?

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  4. Chénier dit: C'est ça, continuez à penser que le nationalisme québécois est laid, raciste et affligé de tous les maux de la Terre. Pauvre Canada... Ah oui, c'est vrai le Canada, lui à un nationalisme inclusif, il fait la part juste aux francophones hors-Québec... ''Bullshit'' d'hypocrites !

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  5. Because racism and intolerance does not exist in all the rest of Canada...

    *roll eyes

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  6. Interesting point adski, there is definitely some truth to it.

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  7. Yes Adksi, Bill 101 is a law of forced segregation by language. It is not only a law which restricts francophone rights, but protects the provincial majority like a belt while they march through their lives in QC. Acting as if an unjust law will lead them to salvation - when it has only contributed to the déclin tranquille du Québec.

    ...and the PQ-BQ yahoos want to 'extend' this to all schools, etc. Jeez, how much bureaucratic oppression until we crack? Until some violence occurs...while we sit in this apathetic mode prior to such an event.

    Thanks again for blogging about this touchy subject Editor - we need this to be spread across QC to provoke change, instead of thwarting diversity.

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  8. "Because racism and intolerance does not exist in all the rest of Canada..."

    Racism exists everywhere, but in Quebec it's institutionalized and legitimized by the political representatives in the assembly and finds expression in legislation that makes it a corner- stone of the human experience in the province.
    Furthermore, this legislation is supported by the majority of the electorate who are consistently bombarded with xenophobic concepts in the educational system and the local media.
    Maybe you can tell me of another province in this country where speaking a language is considered an infraction that will be met with growing fines and can even result in a business being shut down.

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  9. Adski, tu parles de la difficulté pour un immigrant de s'intégrer à la société québécoise. Peux-tu nous renseigner sur comment il est facile pour un immigrant de s'intégrer à la communauté anglaise du Québec ?

    Plus précisément, est-il tout aussi facile pour un immigrant de s'intégrer à la part de la communauté anglaise composée de diverses communautés ethniques anglicisées, qu'il l'est de s'intégrer à ce qui constitue le coeur de la communauté anglaise, soit les anglos blancs de souche britannique ? Dit autrement, tes amis et connaissances "anglos" sont-ils uniquement issus de l'immigration ou un bon nombre d'entre eux sont de vieille souche britannique ?

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  10. Math (the apologist) said...

    ‘Because racism and intolerance does not exist in all the rest of Canada...’

    Not at all; however, the difference between Canada and Quebec is one of magnitude and theme. In Quebec it's organized and aggressive, tied to ethnocentric nationalism, institutionally and politically sanctioned, and generally socially acceptable among the Francophone 'master’ race. To most outside observers the difference is obvious and striking.

    But go ahead and dismiss the valid criticisms of more and more people, we’re all just mean-spirited and out to get you, right?

    *shake head and puke

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  11. "il fait la part juste aux francophones hors-Québec"

    Where else in Canada are you denied the use of the French language?
    In which Canadian province is speaking French an offense punishable by law?
    What other Canadian province employs a linguistic police that are required to measure signage to ensure that one language is visibly larger than the other?
    Nobody here is claiming that Canada is a utopia, but by comparison Quebec is the dystopian anachronism that can only find relevance in early 20th century concepts of race.
    The hypocrisy comes in when Francophones serve as apologists for clearly divisive and racist legislation claiming that it's necessary to protect a colonized and subjugated minority. What a joke, coming from a group that represents one of the large three colonial powers that played a large part in colonizing and eradicating cultures world wide.

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  12. Bill 101 will never go away, because 90& of the Quebecois want it to be there. They may not necessarily view immigrants as inferior, but they believe that because English is such a powerful force in N. America, that it must have a limited role in Quebec society. They're so paranoid that they think any presence of English where there's supposed to be none will pose an imminent threat to the French language, even though through history the population of Lower Canada (now Quebec) was always roughly 13% Anglo and 80% Francophone. Statistically, there were more French only signs than English only signs prior to the Charter of Charters. The English-French rivalry in Montreal was almost non-existent 60 years ago and people lived in harmony

    Also, immigrants who were not Catholics were not allowed to attend French schools until 1968, which is why many Anglos over 60 are not fluent in French, nothing to do with disrespect of the majority. I know I already said this, but the Quebecois are a paranoid bunch. They think that everyone is out to get them, openly or covertly. They're extremely nostalgic and would do anything to make the French language relevant again in N.America. This a case and point example of an inferiority complex. It's like your typical playground bully, they think so lowly of themselves that they need to oppress other non-Quebecouis pure laine to make themselves feel like somebody.

    I wish the Quebecois would finally wake up and smell the coffee and integrate to the democratic nature of the modern world (of course, that can be debated)

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  13. "Plus précisément, est-il tout aussi facile pour un immigrant de s'intégrer à la part de la communauté anglaise composée de diverses communautés ethniques anglicisées, qu'il l'est de s'intégrer à ce qui constitue le coeur de la communauté anglaise, soit les anglos blancs de souche britannique ? Dit autrement, tes amis et connaissances "anglos" sont-ils uniquement issus de l'immigration ou un bon nombre d'entre eux sont de vieille souche britannique ?"

    Here's a breakdown of my close circle of friends:

    - Filipino
    - Canadian (English) / French (France)
    - Canadian (English) / Italian
    - Canadian (Irish) / Canadian (English)
    - Canadian (English) / African
    - Haitian
    - Canadian (English) / Canadian (Quebecois)
    - Canadian (Quebecois)
    - Canadian (Quebecois)
    - Guatemalan
    - Filipino
    - Indian
    - Indian
    - Pakistani

    Those are just my males friends. I'll stop there but if we added the females we could add a couple Polish, a couple Canadians (English), a few Italians, an Egyptian, etc.

    All are bilingual or trilingual and master or at least understand very well both offical languages of Canada.

    Myself: English (Canadian) / Italian
    My girlfriend: 1/4 Haitian, 1/2 Irish, 1/8 Canadian (Quebecois), and 1/8 French (France)

    Yes I would say immigrants integrate well into our society and I'm proud to be a progressive part of it.

    Long live English and French CANADA!

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  14. Someone wrote: "In which Canadian province is speaking French an offense punishable by law?"

    Is speaking English punishable by law in Quebec?

    No.

    Bunch of weirdos. If In Quebec, it is in French. If you are not happy, you've got a lot of other provinces to choose from.

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  15. "Long live English and French CANADA!"

    Long live Quebec ans long live Canada (without Quebec)

    You are so out of the map. Even the "federalists" in Quebec don't give a shit of the Rest of Canada.

    Wait, you will see. http://thealbertanclown.blogspot.com/

    The federalists, both liberals in Quebec and Canada, screwed everything up. The conservatives will never get a grip in Quebec,, other than where French canadian rat were brainwashed by the garbage radios in Quebec city.

    But YOU all think that the separatist are "racist nationals" as in fact, the French canadian liberal rats live just to fuck everybody, the Anglophones all over Canada and the separatists.

    But you prefer to spit on the separatists.

    Good for you, but when Charest is down, that the rest of Canada will be fucked by Harper and will be ridiculised around the world, guess what will happen?

    YES! Quebec will separate and the ROC will sink.

    So, in the meanwhile, keep all of you your whining, you are laughable. :)

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  16. to answer to Rubber Bullet..

    "But go ahead and dismiss the valid criticisms of more and more people, we’re all just mean-spirited and out to get you, right?"

    I didnt dismiss anything from this article....so stop putting words in my mouths with your false ''honest'' question, good sir.

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  17. Ta raison VB, parler anglais n'est pas encore un crime au Quebec...j'ai pas encore vu un swat team defoncer la porte d'une maison a Baie d'Urfer encore pour ce genre de chose....ni de camps de la mort...ni de prison remplie d'anglo-saxon qui ont oser par parler francais,etc etc.

    Oui y a des racistes anti-ango, oui y a des politicien qui profite de cet apartheid la ((autant franco que les anglos))...mais faut quand meme pas exagerer.

    Le plus ironique dans ca est que l'office de la langue francaise est maintenant sous financer et under-staff....c'est a peine si y peuvent accomplir leur boulot...je dirais meme que sans les organisation civiles comme MMF et la SSJB...l'Office serait pratiquement obselete.

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  18. On va les garder à l'oeil. J'ai déjà dénoncé ce site pour l'image antisémite. Le gars se pense fin en tentant d'associer Vigile.net à cette image plus haut. J'ai fait une capture d'écran.

    Le gars va avoir l'air con en disant "but but but, I put this picture because of Vigile.net"

    Mais l'image n'a aucun rapport avec Vigile.net, donc elle a rapport avec CE SITE.

    Good luck. And change your title. Dogs doesn't deserve to be associated with your délire obsessionnel. We are lot of people watching you. We know of you page on Facebook. Every racist comment towards Quebec is print sreen and compiled. You are a a watch list, all the people commenting on Facebook.

    You cause is lost. If you don't want to accept that it is in French in Quebec, so too bad. It is not a bucnh of weirdos like you that is gonna change anything. You cause is lost in advance. The only thing that can happen is that you end up in prison for you hate-mongering towards Quebec.

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  19. 'I didnt dismiss anything from this article....so stop putting words in my mouths with your false ''honest'' question, good sir.'

    Really? When your response to the article is to roll your eyes and flippantly say Canada is also racist, you imply that the type of racism we see in Quebec is no different and not really worthy of analysis or discussion. I’d say that dismisses the entire article and the valid points it expresses.

    I guess some folks want to see the writing on the wall, other don't.

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  20. Editor, you wrote above "Clearly he regretted his words and before being told to resign by others, he did the honourable thing the very next day."

    That may be so, but about seven weeks later while on some kind of political junket in Calgary, he disclosed the "ethnics" he had in his sights: The Jews, Greeks and Italians. Interestingly, when he needed some kind of medical procedure months ago, it was done at the "Ethnic" General Hospital, the very institution where I was born and my late mother MSRIP, was a head nurse many, many years ago.

    Yes, it took lots 'n lotsa money for that hospital to be built because hospitals in the past in Montreal were not sensitive to the dietary and chaplaincy needs of the Jews and other minorities back in those days. The result: The Jews had to build their own hospitals...and hospices...and parochial schools...and retirement homes, etc. etc. etc.

    The Jewish philosophy: "If we don't build our own community, there won't be a community".

    The «Québécois pur laine» philosophy: "The government will build our hospitals, schools, etc. etc. etc..."

    Interesting how Chrétien, Parasite and the rest of them choose the "Ethnic" hospital. Chrétien couldn't find a decent hospital in Shswinigan? What does that tell the rest of the townsfolk? Go West to Montreal until you hit le coin des côtes?

    Love us or hate us, Quebec NEEDS us! (Of course, I'm no longer a part of us--I chose 401 over 101)!

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  21. If the RoC were to sink, what would happen to a leech of a province that gets 8 billion a year in transfer payments from the said RoC? What an average seppie might not realize is that whatever plague he wishes on Canada, he wishes a plague ten times worse on Quebec.

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  22. To VD at 3:44 PM,

    "Is speaking English punishable by law in Quebec? No."

    But speaking English ALONE in many instances in Quebec is punishable by law. It is against the law to speak English ONLY if you run a business or work in many corporations. And you cannot post signs in English only. There are not any similar restrictions on French anywhere else in Canada.

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  23. To VB
    Every time I read a ridiculous threatening rant like yours I take solace in that I can cause you such distress.

    I'm very frightened..... M.Bonhomme Sept-Heures

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  24. 'Every racist comment towards Quebec is print sreen and compiled. You are a a watch list, all the people commenting on Facebook.'

    Threats, threats, and more threats. On a watch list? How f*c*ing diligent. If this blog threatens you, it must be working. Awesome!!! Seriously, I think you meant to say 'every observation or comment that does not conform to or support the dogma of xenophobic Quebecois nationalism.'

    'The only thing that can happen is that you end up in prison for you hate-mongering towards Quebec.'

    I bet you would love to have that power. Isn't that the wet dream of every seppie? You better build bigger prisons dude, the dissent is growing.

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  25. Chénier dit : À Ethnic January 18, 2011 2:18 PM ''Where else in Canada are you denied the use of the French language?
    In which Canadian province is speaking French an offense punishable by law?
    What other Canadian province employs a linguistic police that are required to measure signage to ensure that one language is visibly larger than the other?
    Nobody here is claiming that'' Franchement, allez consulter, votre cas est grave... Je n'ai jamais vu d'anglophones recevoir être condamné pour avoir parlé anglais ?!% Vous fumez de bon matos ! C'est bien ce que je pensais, ça existe partout mais ici c'est pire qu'ailleurs ! La vieille rengaine usée du canada anglais pour déblatérer son fiel sur la francophonie et plus spécifiquement sur le Québec français ! Pas sérieux, allez donc !

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  26. Name me in Roc a town where there are 3 French universities?

    No. And by the way, in the Roc, they have closed French schools and French hospitals. Francophone in the ROC had to fight to keep them open, but were basically all closed.

    But this you have no idea, because history doesn't matter for English Canadians.

    History of English Canadian is british loyalists who come up when USA did its independence while London was burning Scotish and Irish farms, steeling their lands, severals came to Canada, Montreal, eastern provinces too.

    Today, those British loyalists and, funny enough, the same who had to leave because London burned down their farms and stole their land, now they go hand in hand and whine about bill 101.

    My roots go, as most of Québécois, as far as the fist French settlers and have a history of 400 years old. Buut I would not be pround of having British loyalist roots.


    Get to know your history. You have 2 nations in Canada: Québécois, with a long history and unique culture. The other side, a melting pot, with basically beer and hockey and the invention of multiculturalism to counter the lack of culture.


    Never forget, your history starts with British loyalists in the 1800s. Mine 200 years before, with French culture and today we live in French, have our own distinct culture shining all around the world.

    I don't mind Anglophones. See, I am not to bad in English myself and was born in the big pure-laine centre du Québec.

    The more I read Anglophone press all over Canada, the more I want to separate.

    So, maybe you should not pray to much for pure-laines to learn English, because it gives us a big advantage.

    And you wanna know the funny part: I work in Ottawa because I can English. Thanks for the Canadian language law, we can get very good job. We the Québécois, getting more and more bilingual, will have you both way, within or without Canada.

    Do you start to understand that the French Canadian federalists also screw you big time, everyday, when they vote just to keep their job in Ottawa, just to keep their job in Shawinigan because Chrétion open a Canadian Bureau de chômage there, and same for the Passport center in Saguenay.

    They may vote NO, but they don't care about Canada ATT ALL.

    I Insist, BOTH WAYS!

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  27. "Name me in Roc a town where there are 3 French universities?"

    Last time I checked, there were only 2 English universities in Montreal: Mcgill and Concordia. And these institutions were built by the English speaking community.

    "And by the way, in the Roc, they have closed French schools and French hospitals. Francophone in the ROC had to fight to keep them open, but were basically all closed."

    How many French schools and hospitals have been closed in the ROC?
    What about the English hospitals and the enormous numbers of English schools that have been forced to close in Quebec?

    "Thanks for the Canadian language law, we can get very good job."

    The Official Languages Act, passed by Pierre Trudeau, is nothing more than affirmative action for Francophones in federal jobs. We Anglophones in the rest of Canada will have to do what we can to modify or eliminate the OLA.

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  28. "You are so out of the map. Even the "federalists" in Quebec don't give a shit of the Rest of Canada."
    Good. About time they realize Quebec is a waste of time.

    "YES! Quebec will separate and the ROC will sink."
    Really? Look who's talking? Quebec's very economy depends on Canada's equalization payments and many politicians have pointed this out. Without it, you're the Mexico of the North. Like Reed Scowen says, Canada will be a much more prosperous country without Quebec not only on an economic level, but on a social level as well.

    "Never forget, your history starts with British loyalists in the 1800s. Mine 200 years before, with French culture and today we live in French, have our own distinct culture shining all around the world. "
    LOOOOLLLLLL I can assure that your "culture" does not shine much after crossing the river from Gatineau.

    "The more I read Anglophone press all over Canada, the more I want to separate."
    Glad to hear it. You're getting the message. The anti-Canada press in the Quebec media is yet another reason Ottawa needs to ask Quebec to leave. Also another reason to have a federal party which does not cater to any of Quebec's demands but rather, puts MY people first, the Anglophone majority in Canada

    "And you wanna know the funny part: I work in Ottawa because I can English. Thanks for the Canadian language law, we can get very good job. We the Québécois, getting more and more bilingual, will have you both way, within or without Canada. "
    This was Trudeau's dream when he enacted the OLA in 1969. He wanted to make it easier for les petits kebekua to have federal jobs, at the expense of discriminating against the English majority of Canada. We need a party that puts an end to this and puts US first

    VP, the only time French schools were abused in the ROC was in the early 1900s when Manitoba banned French as an official language and closed down French schools. The Canadian govt forced the provincial govt to overturn the decision. A similar thing happened in Ontario and the Canadian govt did the same. In Quebec, English schools are being forced to close down due to low enrollment thanks to the Charter of Charter. There are more French schools in Ontario than there are English schools in Quebec. See unlike Quebec, Canada actually takes care of its historic minorities and doesn't treat them like 2nd class citizens.

    "But this you have no idea, because history doesn't matter for English Canadians."
    You should know, vous petits kebekua have spent 40 years rewriting history to suit your political agendas.

    "They may vote NO, but they don't care about Canada ATT ALL."
    Another reason to kick Quebec out and create a federal party that puts the ROC first.

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  29. @VB

    Wow!Tu devrais écrire plus souvent sur ce blogue.
    Tes propos sont justes,tellement justes que les anglouilles vont êtres en furie et pas a peu près.

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  30. VB said :

    "[...] And by the way, in the Roc, they have closed French schools and French hospitals. Francophone in the ROC had to fight to keep them open, but were basically all closed.

    But this you have no idea, because history doesn't matter for English Canadians."

    _______________________________________

    No one is saying that enrollment in French schools is extremely high - no one is even pretending and saying that French has a huge place in the ROC.
    But the point is that there are French schools in EVERY province and territory.
    Most of them each have a commission scolaire Francophone.

    Here's a short list of French schools in other provinces I found in about 10 minutes on google. I can probably find more if you want me to.

    Ontario
    http://www.csviamonde.ca/csviamonde/

    Alberta :
    http://www.csno.ab.ca/fr/Programmes_991.html

    Colombie Britanique
    http://www.csf.bc.ca/default.php

    Manitoba
    http://www.edu.gov.mb.ca/m12/progetu/prog-fr.html
    http://www.edu.gov.mb.ca/k12/schools/fr_ang.pdf

    Saskatchewan
    http://www.cefsk.ca/

    Nouveau Brunswick
    http://www.district1.nbed.nb.ca/index/index.cfm

    Terre-Neuve
    http://www.csfp.nl.ca/boreale/

    Nouvelle Ecosse
    http://csap.ednet.ns.ca/

    Ile du Prince Edouard
    http://www.edu.pe.ca/cslf/

    Territoires du Nord-Ouest
    http://www.csftno.com/

    Yukon
    http://commissionscolaire.csfy.ca/fr/

    Nunavut
    http://www.csfn.ca/

    Again, I'm not saying that someone can live their whole lives in French in other provinces, what I'm trying to show is that French, although a minority, is not banned elsewhere in Canada like English is in Quebec.
    Parents could easily find schools for their kids in French in ever province if they truly wanted to.
    Anyone can go to French university, there are French universities in Manitoba, Ontario and N-B at least, and of course all the ones in Quebec.

    can someone do their education from kindgarden to university in French in Canada? Yes.

    Can someone go to English school in Quebec? Only if you're part of the lucky anglophone minority, in which you're allowed to choose whichever school you want to...everyone else has French forced upon them.

    Don't get me wrong, I actually love French, I speak it every day and I will always live in Montreal...what I hate is ignorance.

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  31. Andreamad,

    I'll only answer to you, because the other ones also agree that Quebec should be kicked out.

    As a matter of fact, I am for letting everybody to go to English schools because I know it will open more eyes of French Canadians in Quebec, like me. he more I learn English, the more I learn English, the more I want to separate.

    Otherwise, the more Quebekers will learn English, the more we will get the job in Ottawa and around the ROC, because, you and I, know that Canada will NEVER touch Trudeau's chart.

    It is a win win situation for us, QUÉBÉCOIS. And the day some politicians will touch Trudeau's chart, you will have a referendum which will be win by separatists haut la main.

    Until then, If I am here, it is only to make those narrow minded anglopone who doesn't get what really think Quebeckers. My grand mother could not care less about Canada, but she voted NO in 1995 because she was afraid of losing her pension.

    This is what you have those are the federalists, the French Canadians you think they are so open minded, you think they understand, as in fact, they don't fucking speak a word of English. People in Saguenay, do you really believe, where they don't speak English, who have never been to Montreal, give a damn of Canada, even if they voted for Stepehn Harper?

    Get real! We in QUebec send the bloc Quebecois in Ottawa, and as a result, you get Harper in the ROC.

    When Canada looks stupid on the international scene, I say " I am Québécois, blame the Anglophones".

    You know, it is a game. And the more separatists. Anglophones make 2 big mistake:

    1- You think that Elvis Gratton is the representation of Québécois separatists, as in fact, for me, there are the French Canadian liberal rats whoyou believe are the good ones.

    2- You have more people in the separatist movement who are bilingual than in the federalist side (talking about the Elvis Gratton).

    I worked for free for the Bloc Quebecois, and I got to see during elections how look like the people working for the Liberals. They are all on the BS and look all like Elvis Gratton. You know why? Because the LPC pays them, even if they are supposed to be volunteers. But chut, let the other anglophones believe that the separatists are the morons and that they are the unilinguals.

    Time will give me reason. I am not stressed at all.

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  32. The best solution to all this bante. Kick Quebec out of Canada and partition it... It's time to play hard ball with these Bananna Repulicans to be!!! as Galganov once said BASTARDS

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  33. Oh, very last thing, thanks to this blog, and other newspaper in the ROC, above all comment sections, I can copy comments that looks hateful towards the Francophones in Quebec. Then I posted translated in French in the region, on different newspapers and blogs, so I win one by one new separatists everyday.

    You, with my comments, if you post them to your fellow anglophones in the ROC, they will want to kick Quebec out.

    See, the both side win for me?

    And Trudeau is probably the most hated man in history of Quebec. His son, Justin, is a big joke since his clip where he speaks Franglais en mongol.

    See, if you wanna blame someone, blame Trudeau, and Chretien, Charest. All French Canadians, and we both dislike them.

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  34. @ VB

    Honestly, I don't mind if bilingual French get more jobs in Ottawa.
    I'm actually all for bilingualism, and if being bilingual gives you benefits (whether you're Francophone and you speak English, or anglophone and you speak French), then all the power to the bilingual people.
    The unilinguals will be left behind in the dust, but new generations are more and more bilingual.
    I come from an English family but went to French school for elementary and high school.
    A lot of other kids at my school were English and went to French school as well.
    Why? because 1) we do like French 2) We know it's important to speak French if you live in Quebec.

    My kids will also go to French school, whether they like it or not, because being bilingual makes you open your mind just a tiny bit more.
    It gives you jobs and opportunities.
    How can anyone be against that?

    the only thing I'm against is separation. I have absolutely no faith in any separatist government respecting the English minority and respecting immigrants -- I don't see separation as offering anything positive at all actually.

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  35. Dear VB get a life and face the facts of how bilingual anglos and allos are the future of this province. Bill 101 has effectively made French the official language of Quebec; we are very comfortable with that. Unfortunately, the same law has effectively marginalized Quebecois de souche unilingual and 'provincial'. They have been subdued by the repressive non-progressive ideals of the nationalist, elite . So, the Quebecois people are no longer repressed by the Catholic Church, but by the linguistic gestapo freaks. So many Quebecois de souche do not have English bosses but neo-Anglos and allo bosses! Irony. The nationalistic policies of the last 50 years have effectively stopped the progression of the Quebecois de souche. Now they can look forward to the future as serfs: habitants. Thanks to their so-called 'leaders'. I look forward to see Francophone Quebecois unite and reject the un-productive, out-dated ideas of the Péquistes and kick their sorry, whiny butts for once and for all. The real Francos of Quebec are great people, it's the so-called unintelligent, 'intelligentsia' that should call it a day. Move on, people. Get a hobby or a job!

    Ton arrière-arrière-grand-père, il a défriché la terre
    Ton arrière-grand-père, il a labouré la terre
    Et pi ton grand-père a rentabilisé la terre
    pis ton père, il l'a vendu pour devenir fonctionnaire

    Et pi toé mon p'tit gars, tu sais pu c'que tu vas faire
    Dans ton p'tit trois et d'mi ben trop cher, frète en hiver
    Il te vient des envies de dev'nir propriétaire
    Et tu rêves la nuit d'avoir ton petit lopin d'terre

    Ton arrière-arrière-grand-mère, elle a eu quatorze enfants
    ton arrière-grand-mère en a eu quasiment autant
    Et pi ta grand-mère en a eu trois c'tait suffisant
    pis ta mère en voulait pas, toi t'étais un accident

    Et pi toé ma p'tite fille, tu changes de partenaires tout l'temps
    Quand tu fais des conn'ries, tu t'en sauves en avortant
    Mais y'a des matins, tu te réveilles en pleurant
    Quand tu rêves la nuit d'une grande table entourées d'enfants

    Ton arrière-arrière-grand-père, y'a vécu la grosse misère

    [ From: http://www.metrolyrics.com/degeneration-lyrics-mes-aieux.html ]

    Ton arrière-grand-père, il ramassait les cents noires
    Et pi ton grand-père, miracle, y'est devenu millionnaire
    Ton père en a hérité, il l'a tout mit dans ses réers

    Et pi toé p'tite jeunesse tu doé ton cul au ministère
    Pas moyen d'avoir un prêt dans une institution bancaire
    Pour calmer tes envies de hold-uper la caissière
    tu lis des livres qui parlent de simplicité volontaire

    Tes arrières-arrières-grands-parents ils savaient comment fêter
    Tes arrières-grands-parents ça swingnaient fort dans les veillées
    Pis tes grands-parents ont connu l'époque yé-yé
    Tes parents c?tait les discos c'est là qu'ils se sont rencontrés

    Et pi toé mon ami qu'est-ce que tu fais de ta soirée
    Éteins donc ta T.V. faut pas rester encabané
    Heureusement que dans vie certaines choses refusent de changer
    Enfiles tes plus beaux habits car nous allons ce soir danser

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  36. Here's an eye opener for the Francophone malcontents:

    How many French hospitals and schools have closed outside Quebec?

    IN QUEBEC, at least 60% of the English schools have had to close down. In his book "Time to Say Goodbye" [former MNA and senior Quebec civil servant] Reed Scowen pointed out that enrolment in English schools from the mid-1970s until the mid 1990s dropped from about 250,000 to 100,000. That's a 60% drop!!!

    Of course, that was the sociopolitical engineering of successive Quebec governments over that time that has caused this phenomenon. Here is the score in 1991:

    French schools in Ontario 419
    English schools in Quebec 305

    Considering French speakers make up about 3-4% of Ontarians and minorities make up about 20% of Quebec, that says a lot.

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  37. VB, allot of diarrhea opinions come out of your mouth. Care to offer anything to back up anything you say?

    And by the way, and I know this may come as a shocker, but you don't speak for all Quebeckers. I actually know for a fact that you don't speak for 50.8% of them. Actually we could probably increase that figure now since immigrants have continued to pour in over the last 15 years.

    Oh and posting needlessly long rants repeatedly doesn't make you right. Hitler liked to hear himself rant too...

    "I can copy comments that looks hateful towards the Francophones in Quebec"
    I'm glad you admit that seppies selectively choose comments to suit their agenda. I suppose it would kill you to present an honnest depiction of the comments on this blog wouldn't it?

    Oh and you have a sick brain

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  38. @Jason

    Je suis Québécois (pure laine) et je peux affirmer que VB rejoint la majorité des Québécois...Pas les importés mais les vrais Québécois.

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  39. "Je suis Québécois (pure laine) et je peux affirmer que VB rejoint la majorité des Québécois...Pas les importés mais les vrais Québécois."

    Un peu moins de 60% est une grande majorite pour toi? No wonder high school testing is so horrific here. I don't think Quebeckers understand the concept of percentages. "Ooooh j'ai 55% dans mon examen! J'ai repondu a une grande majorite des questions correctement!"

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  40. "...Pas les importés mais les vrais Québécois"

    I can't decide if that statement makes you stupid or racist or both. Guess what tardo? White French people aren't indigenous to Quebec. Fak t'es pas un vrai toi non plus.

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  41. to Rubber Bullet

    "Really? When your response to the article is to roll your eyes and flippantly say Canada is also racist, you imply that the type of racism we see in Quebec is no different and not really worthy of analysis or discussion. I’d say that dismisses the entire article and the valid points it expresses. "

    Ca reste ton opinion, pas la vérité. Car tous sur le net peu être interpréter de la maniere qu'on veut bien lire.

    And sorry if i hurted your feeling pour si peu...mais ce fut divertissant (o;

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  42. Bravo AngloBuster, c'est grace a des tatas comme toi qu'on aura jamais le pays.

    /clap clap clap.......

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  43. @Math

    Dis-moi Math,t'es nouveau sur ce blogue?Je te suggère d'aller jeter un coup d'oeil sur les posts antérieurs et tu vas comprendre que tout est grossier ici (a part quelques-un).

    Ici on se tape sur la gueule.C'est pas un blogue politique mais de bashing.Pour les opinions plus raffinées,va plutôt voir Louis ou Vigile.net.Moi quand on me tape dessus,je rétorque.Ce blogue représente a lui seul une condition gagnante.

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  44. "Ici on se tape sur la gueule.C'est pas un blogue politique mais de bashing.Pour les opinions plus raffinées,va plutôt voir Louis ou Vigile.net.Moi quand on me tape dessus,je rétorque.Ce blogue représente a lui seul une condition gagnante."

    So from what I can gather, the only sites that are classy and refined are the ones that agree with your opinion? LOL biased much? There's just as much aggressive yapping on French sites you dumb truck.

    And by the way Captain Oblivious-to-Himself, you and VB are the only ones here spewing hate and intolerance. "pas les importes.." what kind of backwards shit is that to say.

    And before you go assuming something (which you seem to do so masterfully) like that I'm insulting you 'cause I hate French people, you are wrong. I'm insulting you because I hate people who have the intellect of a 3-week-old foetus that go around shooting their mouths off about stuff they don't fully understand.

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  45. @Jasons de Montréal

    J'ai la vague impression que tu n'es pas un prix Nobel.Y'avait-il quelques produits toxiques dans le container qui t'a servi de taxi jusqu'a la civilisation?Des gaz de sikhs peut-être?

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  46. "Des gaz de sikhs peut-être?"

    lol just one racist comment after another with you isn't it? Why don't you take a shot at the Jews next? I hear it's quite fashionable. Wait... unless you're a complete moron and meant to say gaz de schiste.

    You pick: moron or racist?

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  47. @Jason the moron (Ça sonne bien non?)

    "You pick: moron or racist?"

    Hmmmm...disons un savant mélange des deux.Moi qui croyait que c'était les Québécois la cible du jour mais si tu insistes...C'est quoi la différence entre un Juif et une boîte aux lettres?

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  48. "@Jason the moron (Ça sonne bien non?"

    Ah the classic "repeat the same insult back" response. Still in grade 3 are we?

    "Hmmmm...disons un savant mélange des deux"

    Au moins t'assume ce que t'es

    "Moi qui croyait que c'était les Québécois la cible du jour mais si tu insistes"

    Absolutley not. I love Quebecois. I even get along with several Seperatists. I'm blasting you, and retards like you will always be the "cible du jour".

    "C'est quoi la différence entre un Juif et une boîte aux lettres?"

    Only a minor difference really. Racist Quebec nationalists want to blow them both up but have only gotten around to one so far.

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  49. "Racist Quebec nationalists want to blow them both up but have only gotten around to one so far."

    Confondre le nationalisme Québécois et le FLQ démontre une fois de plus la grande confusion qui reigne dans la tête de certains anglos ainsi que leurs connaissances restreintes de l'histoire de notre Nation.En passant,je ne t'enverrai jamais poster une lettre.

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  50. "En passant,je ne t'enverrai jamais poster une lettre"

    Oh thank heavens. That was my number 1 concern. Care to add any other useless sentences to your comments that add no substance to this discussion?

    "Confondre le nationalisme Québécois et le FLQ démontre une fois de plus la grande confusion qui reigne dans la tête de certains anglos ainsi que leurs connaissances restreintes de l'histoire de notre Nation"

    FLQ = Quebec nationalISTS
    PQ honours and romanticizes FLQ as does mainstream French media with memorials and news coverage.
    Thusly FLQ = Quebec NationalISM or at least a symbol of it.
    And once again you = retard

    And before you jump on it not all separatists are as radical as the FLQ but to say they aren't at least symbolically linked is simply absurd. But if that is the semi-retarded logic that you want to run with then peep this : Confondre les Canadians avec l'empire Britannique demontre une fois de plus la grande confusion qui reigne dans la tete de certains francos ainsi que leurs connaissance restreintes de l'histoire de notre nation.

    You've just been served. Kindly step away.

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  51. Mettez ça dans votre pipe les 7-8 anglos frustrés:


    « La communauté juive croit qu’il faut encourager l’épanouissement de la culture et de la langue française parce que cet épanouissement reflète les aspirations légitimes de la majorité de nos concitoyens. La communauté juive est favorable à une politique linguistique qui fait du français la langue commune au Québec. »

    Jérémie Tapiero
    Directeur des affaires publiques
    Congrès juif québécois
    http://www2.lactualite.com/jean-francois-lisee/le-congres-juif-sermonne-le-suburban/7312/

    La communauté juive fait partie de la nation québécoise. Le problème, il n'y en a pas.

    Autres que les anglos mongols comme au Suburban et ici, ce blogue of retards.

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  52. "My grand mother could not care less about Canada, but she voted NO in 1995 because she was afraid of losing her pension"

    The old French colonial line runs strong. France sold a chunk of its North American holdings, and her descendants pawned it off for a pension.

    Are these the patriotic hallmarks your 'nation' is built on?

    The truth probably lies more in a desire for French Canadians to retain their identity as part of the whole, and not as the maladjusted, racist apologists of 101 would have you believe, that there was no real choice for Quebec independence available.
    The fact that cessation was overturned twice serves to show the willingness of the local Brownshirts to not only stifle and repress the minorities among them, but their evident desire to overturn two democratic results and cast away both the votes of 'les autres' and the pur laine to achieve their own goals that evidently have little to do with the desires of the French majority.

    The essential toolkit of every Quebecois nationalist includes a copiuous amount of fearmongering, the essential ingredient that will allow them to step in as 'protectors' of a sort. This is otherwise known as fascism.

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  53. "« La communauté juive croit qu’il faut encourager l’épanouissement de la culture et de la langue française parce que cet épanouissement reflète les aspirations légitimes de la majorité de nos concitoyens. La communauté juive est favorable à une politique linguistique qui fait du français la langue commune au Québec. »

    Jérémie Tapiero
    Directeur des affaires publiques
    Congrès juif québécois
    http://www2.lactualite.com/jean-francois-lisee/le-congres-juif-sermonne-le-suburban/7312/"

    Right, 'cause he's the king of all Jews and speaks for all of them and they all agree with him obviously. Much in the same way that Pauline Marois speaks for all Quebeckers.

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  54. Sorry but many Separatist's are racist, its a fact and the QC Gov't laws support this as do the votes they receive. You can't crush another language to promote your own but it is legal here. BTW their is absolutely nothing original or culturally different between the Qubecois and English Canada, EXCEPT language. I have lived here all my life and I am part Irish, French, Scottish and English. All my French friends listen to English music, Brit Pop/Alternative at that! LOL, English Movies and the French Quebec Music scene is just really bad tacky American music with French lyrics.

    Racism is unfortunately all over the world...I actually believe its some form of survival/protectionist instinct or brainwashing for groups of people to make themselves feel protected and justify their irresponsible behavior. To many small minded flag wavers who need to find a hobby to occupy their time more constructively...Maybe George has the right idea for everyone?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cwOqKfEYTg

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