Tuesday, March 18, 2014

Péladeau Proves Money Can't Buy You Love

When Pauline dropped the bombshell that Pierre-Karl Péladeau would be joining the ranks of the PQ in order to give the party a semblance of competence in the domain of business, committed sovereigntists fell over themselves in giddy anticipation of victory, convinced that he would move fence sitters to make the jump over to the sovereignty PQ side.

Despite all the hoopla, some observers, myself included, were rather skeptical. Here's what I wrote a week ago upon the monumental announcement of the Péledeau candidacy.
"With the Quebec Liberals a lot closer in the polls than was predicted by the media of late, Péladeau will be the linchpin to an election win or loss for the PQ.
While Pauline sees Péladeau as a necessary component to election victory, she may be making a pact with the devil and the gambit could very well backfire.
 And so we find ourselves a scant week later looking at a three point Liberal lead in the polls, something that Pauline couldn't have imagined, her thinking being that the deal with the devil that she concocted would cynch her victory and she could live out the next four years as Premier of the Quebec, then retire, (turning over the reins to Péladeau) satisfied and content.

It's was a good plan, one that had a more than reasonable chance of succeeding.
But as the old Yiddish saying goes, "Men plan, God laughs"

The truth is that Péladeau was never a good fit and for most of the PQ faithful, the unionists, students, government workers, he is the antithesis of what they believe in.
For these voters,  accepting Péladeau into the fold is is strictly a question of holding one's nose and making an electoral compromise that remains hard to swallow indeed.
For some, too hard.

But for separatist militants (sovereignty at all costs,) and the PQ hierarchy, it was an easy choice, expediency over principle, that is.
That is why an old-time communist hardliner like Gilles Duceppe could accept so enthusiastically, a man who is Quebec's preeminent union buster, someone who inflicted fourteen lockouts in his various companies and a man that broke the back and destroyed the union at Le Journal de Montreal.

Now this latest poll is not definitive, in Quebec, polls never are and in the end voters may swing radically before the fateful day of reckoning on election day.

But it does indicate that Péladeau is not the panacea that Marois thought he would be and his maladroitness right off the start proves the political axiom that a successful businessman does not necessarily a successful politician make.

Péladeau's rush to establish his bone fides as a separatist was perhaps his most egregious error, re-opening up the dreaded referendum debate and putting paid to the carefully crafted PQ  plan to avoid that debate.

The unanticipated and unwelcomed re-opening of the referendum debate was about as well-received by the public as a sudden and unexpected pounding toothache, heralding the necessary but dreaded appointment with the dentist.

For Phillipe Couillard and the Liberals, this campaign has been one marked by what can only be described as uninspired, low-keyed caution, perhaps counting on the fact or hoping that the PQ would commit a strategic blunder, re-casting the dynamic.
But interestingly, perhaps it is low-keyed caution that Quebecers are looking for. Sometimes we just want a little less drama in our lives.

And so it has happened, the serendipitous turn of events and the Péladeau ineptitude has given the Liberals a lead in the polls, based solely on the toothache dynamic, the one in which even committed sovereigntists don't want a referendum, nor talk of a referendum.
Although support for sovereignty may sit at about 40%, support for holding a referendum, or even debating one is much, much lower.
This isn't a paradox, it actually makes perfect sense.

Sovereigntists realize that another failed referendum will be crushing and humiliating. It will weaken Quebec's position in its battle with Ottawa and this for another generation at least.

Considering the close vote in the last referendum, any new referendum loss will show support for sovereignty diminishing, another crushing blow to the movement.
As Canada's position on sovereignty has evolved to that of annoyed indifference, the Quebec's blackmail gambit of concessions or sovereignty has evaporated into thin air.

Nothing is for sure, the electorate remains fickle, but one thing we can deduce from the poll is that the CAQ is going down the drain to the detriment of the PQ.

Key to success: Keep up the referendum pressure
For the Liberals, it is important to keep up the pressure by hammering home the issue of referendums and sovereignty and even though Pauline's strategy is to downplay and ignore the issue, if the Liberals play their cards right, they can frighten voters into their camp.

The real disappointment in all this is the federal government, which promised to intervene in the debate if the PQ made claims or proffered assumptions about sovereignty that Ottawa disagreed with.

Well that has happened, when the PQ talked about the dollar, passports and borders, professing to tell Quebecers what will be, and how negotiations with Ottawa will win out.

I'm not saying that Harper himself should have waded in, but perhaps Denis Lebel could have fanned the flames of the sovereignty debate by scotching those nonsensical separatist assertions about the dollar and the border.
All he had to do is to tell voters that Marois and the PQ cannot make promises that presume Ottawa's hand.
That's it, the sovereignty debate relaunched!
Marois would have screamed about Ottawa's interference in a Quebec campaign, but the Conservatives could easily have told voters that it was the  PQ who started the debate......Touché!

At any rate, any discussion about sovereignty, squabbles with Ottawa and question of a future Quebec and referendum is music to Liberal ears, because voters just don't want to hear it.
Remember the Hollywood axiom that any publicity, even bad publicity is good publicity, because in the end, publicity is publicity.

To most Quebecers, the referendum and sovereignty refrain is like an annoying song that one can't get out of one's head, a song that turns voters off the PQ.
And so the Liberals should crank up th volume and inflict as much referendum and sovereignty pain as they can, because in the end it is music to Liberal ears.

It would be nice if Ottawa helped.

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  1. Could have written the above myself Editor - I agree with everything you've stated here and wish that Lebel would also dispel some of those outrageous claims about borders. As international law states that this kind of movement is illegal if it means breaking up the contiguous borders of any country, partition is still our only option to rid ourselves of this on-going toothache as you so rightly call it. Wish we could get on with it quickly!

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  2. I honestly think that Ottawa should be pushing Quebecers to have a referendum - Get the matter over with. You want to separate then get on with it. Do whatever you feel is best for yourselves but don't think that you'll be maintaining your Canadian passports in the event of a Yes win. The PQ may have a vision of what Quebec will be afterwards, they may even have ideas but that doesn't mean they will come true. (Like their ridiculous notion that they will have a seat on the Bank of Canada's board - that just goes to show how incredibly ignorant the PQ are to what is going on in the ROC)

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    1. Yes, in many ways the PQ sound just like they did 40 years ago (except now they're right wing instead of left wing, or centre-right, or something...) but the ROC has changed a lot. I mentioned in the other thread but I'll put it here again - the relationship between the ROC and Quebec is very much like the relationship between Quebec and New Brunswick. Sure, it would be good for Quebec if New Brunswick's economy was better, but it's not such a big deal. And sure, Quebec is glad that French is recognized in New Brunswick and that there are French high schools and a French university, but they have no problem leaving French New Brunswick behind in Canada after they separate.

      But really that separation won't happen and there won't be any need for partition. It'll be a toothache for a while longer, but it will fade.

      And as for the federal government not saying anything, well, there's a lot of election left. It's probably going to get crazy, especially if the PQ keep fading in the polls, so hang on, lot's more is going to get said - by everybody.

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    2. No need to force Quebec to have a referendum. After all, This province has already decided -- twice -- to pledge its loyalty to Canada.

      And for the 30% who want one? When 1/3 of PQ voters don't want one?
      Forget it, let them stew and fade away.

      -Kevin

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    3. Kev, I have said there will be no referendum, no separation and no ridiculous partition or city state. Let's get back to reality of a simple election after which the new government will decide the direction of our political lives. Ed

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  3. https://transferwise.com/blog/2014-03/watch-as-1000-years-of-european-borders-change-timelapse-map

    Just like the borders in Europe have been shifting for hundreds of years, so can the borders of Quebec change.

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    1. Wow, that was very powerful! Makes you wonder what's next.

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    2. Nice video, sent the link home. I'm about 1/3rd way into a European History textbook which I read daily in the washroom, never seen the history animated before.

      That being said, I suspect few of those border changes were bloodless. Quite suprized by how much territory Poland controlled at its peak.

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  4. Hey, do you all remember several years ago when she was first chosen as the PQ leader, Pauline Marois had the idea of Quebec citizenship? That even though Quebec is part of Canada, residents still need to gain Quebec citizenship to get access to a number of rights, including right to vote and right to run for elected offices? Whatever happens to that idea?

    Fast forward to today, Marois also said that citizens of independent Quebec could maintain Canadian citizenship and Canadian passport.

    So there it is, for the province of Quebec, part of Canada, Marois wants exclusivity for just a group of people. A Quebec citizenship that only certain Quebecers could have. And for independent Quebec, Marois wants inclusiveness from Canada that Quebec citizens maintain Canadian rights.

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  5. Anonymous Buster of Shit ArgumentsTuesday, March 18, 2014 at 1:01:00 PM EDT

    Re: the polls favoring the PLQ

    1. Marois has really got to be one of the dumbest individuals: http://bit.ly/OtcIWx

    She is calling out the Liberals and saying they're corrupt and that if Quebeckers elect them, they're setting themselves up for more corruption. Guess what happened? That's right - social media lights up with people asking her about the deal between her husband and the FTQ.

    2. Shitloads of seppies are denouncing the new CROP poll and claiming it to be inaccurate or interfered with. Funny, they weren't saying anything like that two weeks ago when CROP showed the PQ had a healthy lead.

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  6. "That is why an old-time communist hardliner like Gilles Duceppe could accept so enthusiastically, a man who is Quebec's preeminent union buster, someone who inflicted fourteen lockouts in his various companies and a man that broke the back and destroyed the union at Le Journal de Montreal."

    One study of the Polish Communist Party (PZPR) towards the end of the 1980s revealed that only 4% of the members were "ideological" left wingers. The vast majority were opportunists and careerists. This is why they became admirers of Friedmanite neoliberalism almost over night, it's because they had no social democratic convictions to begin with.

    I always had the same feeling about the PQ. Though nominally social democratic, most pequistes are probably business oriented careerists.

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  7. Porter: «J'en ai plein le dos!», tonne Couillard

    Philippe Couillard s'est emporté mardi lorsqu'on lui a posé des questions sur ses liens avec l'ancien patron du CUSM, Arthur Porter.

    http://tinyurl.com/qceet3q

    Mais voyons...On se calme M.Couillard...Haha!

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  8. Another interesting article... However I would simply say this, given the unpopular sentiment towards Stephen Harper in Quebec, his silence has permitted Mr. Couillard to become the official spokesperson for federalism and increased his appeal to voters by demonstrating leadership. Mr. Harper and others should be complimented for this!

    Frankly, I am more disappointed that Mr. Mulroney in his defence of PKP, did not take the opprtunity to defend the very nation he led...

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    1. When people talk about somebody doing ANYTHING for money.

      That's Brian.

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    2. I agree with that Pierre. The only thing conservative Mulroney conserves is his own ass. He left us 384 billion more in debt than the 200 billion we already were and created the GST to pay for it with nothing to show for all of it. Trudeau and Chretien spent 200 billion on the housing renovations program. At least they left something worthwhile for the expense. ,Mulroney as much as said my friends have got your money so I've gotta go now and by the way I want two million more because the RCMP told the truth about me. Ed

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  9. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE FRANKFORTTuesday, March 18, 2014 at 1:37:00 PM EDT

    @ S.R.:
    Tu sais que Pauline fait tenir cette election provinciale - au cout de $85 000 000 - afin de detourner l'attention que son mari Claude Blanchet et son "deal" avec la FTQ?

    Mais voyons...On se calme le separeux...Haha!

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  10. Madame Marois can retire on March 29- She will be 65.

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  11. You know what the cold hard truth is?
    These poll numbers underestimate Liberal support.
    The graphic up there includes the undecideds and splits them 1/3 to Libs, 1/3 to PQ, and the rest among the fringe parties.
    The reality is that the Libs get 1/2 of the undecideds, and it has always been so in Quebec

    So if an election were today it'd be 41% Lib and 36% PQ. A big difference from 2012's 31% and 32%

    The key, of course, is vote concentration, and Jean-Francois Lisée agrees: http://t.co/ClT75Ykcvj
    In fact judging from his post, I think internal polling is showing the PQ that Quebec Solidaire will win more than two seats in Montreal, which means stealing from the PQ. On verra.

    -Kevin

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  12. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE FRANKFORTTuesday, March 18, 2014 at 1:53:00 PM EDT

    @ S.R.:
    Je t'appelerai dorenavant Roger. Comme dans Roger Binette. En passant, ton nom fait super quetaine, champion. Ca fait comme Robert Gratton, mais en version separeux ;)
    Ti-cul PQ Binette!!!!!
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    I will hefefore brand S.R. with his real name: Roger Binette. It is terribly quebecois as names go nowadays. Cliche!!!!

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    1. Remember it's "Rodger" not Roger.

      Rodger Pinhead is all big on how Eugenie Bouchard spells and pronounces her name.

      Rodger is all frustrated because he wants to date Pauline "head cheerleader" offspring and he's been rebuffed.

      He hangs around here trolling since the priest told him masturbation isn;t allowed.

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    2. Only 1 word is needed to explain Brian.

      Airbus.

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  13. IMO, as long as the polls continue the way they are, there is no reason for Harper to open his mouth. There is nothing the PQ would love more then to have an unpopular conservative, non-Quebec PM telling Quebecers what to do (that is how it would be spun). The PQ thrives on conflict with Ottawa. It feeds the narrative that Quebecers are being screwed and would be better off on their own.

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  14. Appuyez Heurtel... au nom de Dieu

    Une bénévole a sollicité l’appui des militants pour le candidat libéral David Heurtel au nom de Dieu, mettant le député sortant dans l’embarras.

    http://tinyurl.com/o9kbmt9

    Quoi ?!?...OMG!!

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  15. Sondage: Couillard en tête, mais éclaboussé par une entreprise illégale

    http://www.lesaffaires.com/secteurs-d-activite/gouvernement/sondage-couillard-en-tete-mais-eclabousse-par-une-entreprise-illegale/567261

    Hoho!

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    1. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE FRANKFORTTuesday, March 18, 2014 at 4:01:00 PM EDT

      S.R. aka Press 9 aka Roger Binette

      Demasque.

      Hoho!

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    2. Je sais pas comment t'as fait un gars mais good job on that.

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  16. Joy! Joy! Joy! We're on the way to the gold. I like that Dr.Couillard says Liberals will be good to old persons, I happen to know one
    The PQ was good to old people. They were good to not cancel the programs started by the Libs.
    It's a shame the lad who posts as anonymous doesn't trust us enough to put a name up, his posts are often so right on. He is right about Harper keeping out of the fray. Couillard is in a better position to judge how much federalism should be mentioned.
    I said away back that Dr.Couillard would have a calming influence on things. In spite of unknowlegdable self declared pundits trying to push him to declare his intentions and quislings like McPherson detracting from his image, he has carried on steadily toward the goal. We owe him our support.
    EDITOR une arse seems determined to out somebody. Friend or foe it is illegal. Might be a good opportunity to get rid of him once and for all. Can you use a blocker like the email to delete any posts coming from him?
    International law, which is really toothless, states that no one can change borders without the will of the original country and any abutting neighbours. Ed
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    1. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE FRANKFORTTuesday, March 18, 2014 at 4:48:00 PM EDT

      @ED: Brilliant, old man that you can call me "une arse". You must be some genius to have found a play on my avatar.
      A lifetime of living in queerbec and you still got it grammatically wrong while attempting to "write" in French (the few words that you know of). It's "un" versus "une". Nappy time now. If one uses ED as an acronym one could get very nasty.

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    2. Une arse bien sympatique de Frank fart...Haha!

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  17. Not in a major rush to see Ottawa get involved, although I would, yes, like to see Ottawa get involved. No need for speed in this situation.

    Yes, though, to an eventual Ottawa-held referendum: independence or sign the big-C constitution. Let's do this and get her done.

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  18. >>>> And as for the federal government not saying anything, well, there's a lot of election left.

    Yes
    That said, I'll be somewhat let-down if the Feds contribute NO rebuttal to the PQ/Marois fantasyland drivel.

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  19. >>>>>>> No need to force Quebec to have a referendum. After all, This province has already decided -- twice -- to pledge its loyalty to Canada. 

    You call this loyalty; your bar is low compared to mine

    >>>> Sovereigntists realize that another failed referendum will be crushing and humiliating.

    Agreed 100%
    Bring it on, bitches. Let's do this.

    Referendum: In or Out. Conrad Black is right, the logjam must be broken, enough is enough

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    1. Yes - for sure - let those areas leave in peace that want to go and the rest of us can get on with our lives - except the editor because the blog will be pretty boring after that! :)

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  20. "PQ leader acknowledges that businesses could face legal action if they adopted secular-charter rules"

    lol any idiot business owner who believed Pauline when she said they should apply the charter to their employees to what will clearly be an unconstitutional law deserves to be sued into the stone age where the charter belongs.

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  21. Rodger Binette is really S.R.

    I don't see evidence backing it up. Just a fb timeline coincidence.
    Moreover, who the hell really cares? Get lives, mes concitoyens.

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    1. Sylvain, we do not have the right to reveal anyone's identity, friend or foe Outing someone else on a blog is taboo. EDITOR has given him the right to post here which gives him the same protection as you or I. The fact he promotes hate is called free speech. Would we tie our opponents gloves together behind his back and call it fair fight. We must listen to our enemies for our own protection. ED

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    3. Sylvaine, I don't give a shit what he says. He has the righttonsay it. You are playing with fire and someone innocent will get burned by it. Cool it and let EdITOR be the sheriff of the blog. Ed

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  22. Good evening all. Bonsoir/Hi, Hi/Bonsoir...or even Nos da,

    Thought I’d just say hello and stick my head above the parapet and see what comes my way so to speak. I didn’t know where to post so the current front page seems as good a place as any.

    Well chaps and chapesses, I'm not a French speaker, living as I do in the UK, I am however; bilingual and I live in Wales, (that's Pay de Galles....for the separatists watching from inside queen Xenophobia’s palace).

    I have to say that the methods and psychoses of the separatist appear to be common to both the Scottish National Party and the Parti Québécois. Many Québécois consider themselves to be French, even the ones who have never actually been to France or have a demonstrably French ancestor. Someone once told the leader of the Scottish National Party that somewhere in his past was a Viking even though he is a short balding rotunned man with a sallow complexion.

    He campaigns on stronger links with Norway and using the Norwegian Krone as currency and failing that he thinks that Scotland can just keep the Pound Sterling without actually asking the country with the bank which is backing the currency. The SNP think that Scotland can simply leave the UK and still enjoy the Security of the bank of England guaranteeing the deposits in their banks, join the European Union without any of the other member states having any say in the matter and form closer ties with Norway...when Norway thinks the Scottish First Minister is a joke.

    He feels he has lived under the English 'heel' for too long and is completely sick of being bullied and stifled by them, though he gratefully accepts the £2500 per capita Scotland receives from the rest of the UK and feels he is entitled to it, then he claims credit for the provision of free school meals for children when this is only made possible by extra money provided from London to bring Scotland into line with the social safeguards enjoyed by England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

    The SNP also have a certain faction who dress up their anti-Semitism as pro-Palestinian, as do the PQ who appear to be the reincarnation of the Vichy regime with their views on eugenics, linguistic apartheid and ethnically cleansing the province of monoglot Anglophones.

    Disagree with the SNP and you will be labelled as a brainwashed bully in the pay of the English. Do you see any similarities so far?

    The PQ also campaign on a platform of ramping up the fear that the dilution of the language will bring about the downfall of society....

    My country was invaded by William, King of Normandy(that's in actual France) and I have to say after being conquered utterly by a French King we seem to have done quite well out of it. I wonder what supernatural and mystical quality they[the separatists] attach to linguistic development? After almost 1000 years I don't speak French and in 1000 years no inhabitant of Quebec will speak anything resembling French....nor will the actual French who live in France....and if the Scottish follow the nocturnal emissions of ‘Wee Eck’ and wish to re-invent themselves as a Viking settlement they will certainly not be speaking Old Norse.

    My wife is Canadian and was brought up bilingually, we recently went to visit my in-laws in Ottawa and decided on a whim to go and visit Parc Omega, so we crossed the river and had a wonderful time and on the way back to the ferry we stopped at what I can only describe as a 'biker bar' to sample the poutin....

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    1. Continued:-

      I was sitting at the table with my wife and daughter, my wife chatted to her sister in law in French and being my daughters first language she and I conversed in English. Her accent is somewhat like Hermione from Harry Potter, the fact that she was not Canadian was obvious.

      The woman behind the counter came over to us; obviously not understanding the somewhat cosmopolitan dynamic at work and she almost suffered an aneurysm on the spot, apparently said to my wife in shrill screeching tones (I'm paraphrasing here as I don't understand conversational French) "why do let her use cursed English at the table, you should be ashamed?" She then turned to my daughter and said while wagging her vinyl gloved finger, "your Mama speaks French why do you disrespect her by speaking (once again) the cursed English when she is speaking French".

      ....my daughter is 8 years old and does not actually speak French.....the woman then remonstrated with my child...apparently for being rude and not replying to her. She spoke at breakneck speed and gesticulated wildly at the customers who had begun to take an interest at the scene which was now enfolding as the waitress suffered her meltdown.
      I attempted to speak to her and she shook her head, squinted her eyes and shrugged her shoulders feigning being unable to understand me as my daughter now began to cry.

      My sister in law told me what was said and explained to the woman(in French) that we were not natives and came from Wales, "at least they aren't English", she said(somewhat perversely in excellent English)...and smiling like an idiot now.

      I thought we would try something so I began to speak to my daughter in Welsh as I explained to her what had just happened making no secret of the fact that I was speaking about her to my daughter. This aggravated our server yet further because she REALLY couldn’t understand me at this point and combined with the embarrassment at herself now, she practically ran back to her kitchen muttering, in tears and ensuring that she did not meet anyones gaze least of all the leather clad motorcycle enthusiasts who had also just stopped for poutin on their Saturday ride and were looking at her like she had escaped from the cracker factory.

      The sound of English to these people is like garlic to a vampire, the complete loss of control we witnessed is typical of someone in a cult who has been conditioned to act in a certain manner when presented with the required stimulus.

      Many of the bikers apologised profusely and made a great fuss of my daughter providing many photo opportunities with low riders and other quite exotic machines, rather interestingly; the ones who spoke to us all had Ontario plates.

      My daughter does not recount our visit to Parc Omega when she speaks about our Quebec adventure...only the mental French(SPEAKING) moonbat from the biker bar. She described her visit to Quebec as, “odd”.

      So there you have it, from an 8 year old bilingual Welsh girl(just neither of the languages are French) born in Cardiff..........something ‘odd’ is happening in the province of Quebec and I am inclined to agree with her.

      Noson Dda.

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    2. Ah Noson you ran into "one of those" I'm afraid. I live in quebec and was up at the clinic today and people all around me were conversing in both french and english and no one, but no seemed the least bit upset about it, thank goodness. Those people are not those in the majority and I, as a resident of this province, would like to apologize to you for the horrible experience you had here.

      This is the type of thing that had been going on since the separatist government came into power but each time they are elected, I'm afraid that some of the brain washed minority grow in attitude that this kind of behaviour is acceptable in a civilized world. As a proud Canadian, I'm sure you would run into none of that had you not ventured into certain areas of quebec. Hopefully April 7 will bring a change of government and maybe then these people will return to the woodwork where they belong. Canada has a lot to be proud of and the way both francophones and anglophones can live in harmony is just one of the many things. And yes, it does sound like both Scotland and quebec have collaborated on some of these crazy notions they have about how wonderful things will be when they start their own country - I think Cameron is doing a good job of making most of them face reality. Thank you for the little in-sight on how our tourists are treated - wish I could say we had done better.

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    3. "As a proud Canadian"

      You're not a true canadian peggy sue.

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    5. Selon les vrais Canadiens,vous êtes un Québécois S.R ,que vous le vouliez ou non...Désolé :(

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    6. Looks exactly how I thought he would - brrrr.

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    7. J'ai aussi vu votre photo Wendy R. oups!,désolé peggy - Arrrgh

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    8. "Selon les vrais Canadiens,vous êtes un Québécois S.R ,que vous le vouliez ou non...Désolé :("

      Haha!

      The loser is writing posts to himself again. No friends!

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    12. Je suis de Sherbrooke,pas de l'Abitibi.

      Vous sous-estimez mes connaissances du web S.R :)

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    15. Je ne suis pas du genre à paniquer,votre amie Wendy peut-être,mais pas moi :)

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    16. Afin de respecter l'editeur du blogue,je ne révélerai pas votre identité ni celles de quelques uns de vos amis.
      Seulement un petit avertissement amical,j'espère que vous aurez assez de morale pour ne pas attaquer des inocents,qui n'ont jamais écrit sur ce blogue.

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    17. You've tried this dodge and weave stuff using that lady's name on here before SR and the Editor told you to knock it off. Don't put her name on here and expect people to believe it because they won't. I hope the Editor removes it tout suite just like he did last time - you have no right to name her or anyone else you may believe I am just because your a troll. At least she isn't trolling - she's putting her name on her posts in the Gazette which is more than you do.

      Editor: Please remove that lady's name - I don't want her subjected to anything because of things I have said. Thank you.

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    20. Anonymous Buster of Shit TrollsTuesday, March 18, 2014 at 8:54:00 PM EDT

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    21. @Anonymous Buster of Shit Trolls

      S les sociopathes vous intéresse,voici une ressource intéressante :

      https://www.facebook.com/DOWNWITHPAULINEMAROIS?fref=ts

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    22. The funny part is how much of this validates his original posting.

      The thinking is the same it appears.

      Meanwhile "Plan 9" Rodger further validates the crazy position of waitress and other small minded people the author describes.

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    24. "pur laine"

      Effectivement peggy est incapable d"écrire "pure-laine" :)

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    25. haha. antoinette mercurio. right on s.r.

      here's a bit that's identical to what anectote writes here:

      "already someone is calling me delusional ..because of what i said in the video.... posting it in all groups....and proving my point, not the seps attacking..."

      same paranoid victim as she is here. plus she's italian like anectote regularly boasts about.

      @anectote

      do you have enough guts to admit you are antoinette mercurio?

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    27. Si les petits crétins qui s'amusent à essayer de trouver mon idetité continuent le petit jeu,j'ai quelques surprises pour eux :)

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    28. "do you have enough guts to admit you are antoinette mercurio?"

      Don't see you putting forward a name student, people in glass houses and what not.

      Anyway back to the original poster. I'm sorry your daughter had to experience the worst of Quebec on your brief foray into Quebec Mr. Graves. Alas the small world bigoted viewpoint that was on display is prevalent among the less education, less well travelled and small angry people in Quebec. Perhaps one day they will join the rest of modern Quebec society and get over their misplaced hatred for other people who are slightly different than them.

      It is quite embarrassing because I spent a wonderful summer in your homeland of Wales, visiting Aberystwyth, Rhayader, Brecon, and touring much of the later's national park, very beautiful, and all of the people were exceptionally nice and never mocked me for not speaking Welsh. Alas the same treatment cannot be said of your time here, which is terrible. Anyone who thinks it is appropriate to harass a stranger because of the language they speak, let alone doing it to a little girl, should be completely embarrassed and has some growing up to do as a human being.

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    29. By AnecTOTE

      "do you have enough guts to admit you are antoinette mercurio?"

      The only reason I am even addressing this, is that I don't want problems befalling this person whoever she is because of things I state on this blog.

      You are trash student, but then again you know this. Whoever AM is, I hope she kicks ass too!

      Long live The Message!

      Long live the idea of Montréal pour une ville état.

      Bite me Bitch!

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    30. Comment va M.Galganov Anectote?Allez-vous acheter une moto et rejoindre sa bande de motards?

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    32. Arrêtez votre petit jeu de cache-cache S.R , nous ne sommes pas sur vos pages FB de "haters".

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    33. @Cutie003: I have absolutely no doubt that the offending lady(and I use the term loosely) was definitely in an infinitesimal minority of the Quebec populace. The thing about that kind of person is that they are the most visible, vocal and indeed memorable. My wife always says that the 'squeaky wheel gets the grease' and they always seem to be the squeakiest. Hence the temptation to give them what they want in an effort to help them shut up.

      The effect of this is cumulative and before you know it you have conceded to them so many times that they have everything they need to achieve their aims and more.

      I hadn't even heard of 'the language police' until last night and I didn't actually believe it for 5 minutes or so until I had done my due diligence. It sounds like something from an Orwellian dystopia with the terms newspeak and thought-crime replaced by 'goodspeak' and 'badspeak', the badspeak being anything other than French and especially the dreaded English. It is a hairs breadth away from banning and burning books.

      This kind of creeping fascism has also taken hold in Australia too with a crop of far right ultra nationalist parties who don't have a braincell to share between them. Canada as a country needs to collectively act and legislate to stop it quickly and finally.

      Kind Regards,

      Julian.

      P.S. "Noson Dda" is Welsh for goodnight, how dare you be so insensitive as to disregard my preference of language for your reply, you are a bully and I feel completely violated on behalf of Welsh people everywhere who will learn of your behaviour by psychic osmosis and be wounded as deeply as you have wounded me........:oP

      That was my impersonation of a language zealot, how did I do? LOL

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    34. @whowhatzit: I'm glad you enjoyed Wales, and we thoroughly enjoy Canada every time we come.

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    35. lol - Thank you Julian - Shows how much Welsh I know! Get used to the language police if you're going to move to Ottawa - you'll hear about them at least once every couple of weeks for some of the ridiculous things they do! Ottawa is a great city and I live right across the river unfortunately in quebec so be careful of where you buy property! lol - I do hope you enjoy living here; mainly a nice group of people with all kinds of backgrounds that get along just fine. Quiet city but lots of activities for your daughter to enjoy and plenty of parks and recreational areas. Thank you also for a bit of history and tales of adventures.

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  23. Sam Hamad à Radio X: «Je ne veux pas d’un gvt qui me dit quand mettre mes pneus d’hiver» #qc2014

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    1. Quelle bourde! La loi sur les pneus d'hiver a été voté par les Libéraux...

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    2. Haha!...C'est vrai ça!...Bien vu Mo :)

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    3. One of the most sensible laws ever put in place in this stupid province - haha yourself.

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    4. Yet, your liberal friend Hamad doesn't seem to enjoy it.

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    5. De toute façon, je me moque du manque de logique de Hamad et non de la loi sur les pneus d'hiver.

      Il faut croire que c'est difficile de faire preuve de bonne foi quand on déteste aveuglement ses "adversaires".

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    6. haha. this hamad guy. is it fair to say he his a typical liberal candidate?

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    7. Are there actually any policy differences between the PQ and the Liberals?

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    8. @jay

      yes, pq wants to put independance policy in place. liberals don't have any grand idea like this. big difference.

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    9. So your tuition fees go up either way?

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    10. As long as seperatism is the only issue that you really care about none of your other concerns need to be dealt with - by either party. And now that both patties are populated by extremely wealthy people (whose money is made inside and outside Quebec) don't you worry that any victory you may achieve will be pyrrhic?

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  24. Yet, your liberal friend Hamad doesn't seem to enjoy it.

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  25. >>>>> The point about revealing SR's identity is that he deserves to be shoved into the limelight


    I believe in confronting separatists.

    You're wasting your time and have zero "proof" whatsoever that you've even located the right person.

    Mocking an internet troll doesn't count as confronting separatists.

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    1. "Mocking an internet troll doesn't count as confronting separatists."

      Then where do you begin?

      Hmmm? First we're not mocking, we're shining the light on a honky who's severely lacking in brains and class. Think of it as us saying, that THIS is what has voting power in the province. THIS is what has the power to make Bill 60 an actual law.

      You can affront the problem on the mainstream media level: bit.ly/1gyD1AD

      It will be dealt with on a political level come Sunday.

      However, at the same time, making sure some of these vile trolls understand that there is a price to pay is a necessary measure.

      "You're wasting your time and have zero "proof" whatsoever that you've even located the right person."

      Zero proof? Then I'm sorry Bronto - the power of observation is not you're strong suit. Hint: you don't have to be Francophone to pick up where the clues are left. However, anyone following this blog long enough and knowing SR's style can match it to Binette's FB posts.

      Roger holds to his anonymity to protect his identity from his heinous crap

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  26. Mon cher Julian Pierre Graves,
    I'm "Scottish" and I despise Scottish separatists; liked your story.
    My favorite boss was Welsh; now there wasa lass worth working for.
    Hope your wee bairn had a better rest of the trip after her encounter with the wingless Harpie. Don't mind that separatist cow; haters gotta hate!

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    1. Thanks for the reply, she was a little traumatised at the time but over time her mother and I have turned the memory of the mental waitress into a figure of fun who is to be laughed at rather than feared.

      A Welsh female boss? Sounds wonderful.

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  28. "Let Them Learn French": Canada's Bilingual Elite Hold All the Power
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    I 100% agree

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    1. Un autre de ses torchon qui prône l'unilinguisme?

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    2. Tough one.

      Yes, most Montréal bilinguals are cocky and arrogant pricks who don't appreciate their privilege.
      (And it is a privilege)

      And yes, a good many unilinguals are dumbasses. J Trudeau is a la fois right on the money AND a cocky prick unaware of his privilege. La vie, c'est compliquée.

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    3. The comments in the article are interesting. He's not getting much support.

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    4. "He's not getting much support."

      He doesn't deserve any.

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  29. Propos osés: une employée caquiste renvoyée

    http://tinyurl.com/pghf5mo

    Toute une équipe de champions Err

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    1. Too be fair, she did nothing out of the extraordinary...

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    2. Avec l'autre assis sur les toilettes,c'est un peu trop dans une seule semaine...Surtout dans l'état actuel où se trouve la CAQ.

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  30. I wouldnt get too excited yet. So the Libs are leading by 3 percent in one poll for the first time. Its still very close and there is still 3 weeks left. Lets see what other tricks the PQ have up their sleeve.

    Still not that impressed with Couillard. Now he is talking about scrapping the health tax..so where is the money going to come from to replace that? Easy to say but again I think people should all pay some part of their health care costs..its too heavy a burden to expect it to all fall on the shoulders of the taxpayer. 1.3 billioin in cuts..doesnt make any sense where he is getting these savings from. The Liberals track record on spending is as bad as the PQ.

    Honestly I am not that excited about the prospects of Couillard running things either..he sounds like another guy who is making all sorts of promises he wont keep. Oh and keeping the day care fees with inflation..give me a bloody break..is 1 dollar per day really too much to ask..are you kidding me. It should be at 10 dollars per day and anyone with a total income over 80,000 should have to pay more.

    Harper should get involved somehow..but obviously their strategy is to say and do nothing which I think will backfire on them at some point. Maybe Harper wants the PQ to win..maybe the deal with PKP was to help the PQ..have a referedum which would result in Harper being re-elected in 2015. I still think Harper and PKP are up to something behind the scenes.

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    1. @complicated

      of course a canada without quebec means perpetual power for the conservatives. i guess it's something harper considers.

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    2. No it doesn't. Without Quebec the NDP would have chosen Bill Blaikie as leader. The Liberals may go with someone like Robert Ghiz. It's hard to say how things would change, but things would definitely change.

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    3. Complicated - Agreed. Three weeks can play out like an eternity in an election campaign, nothing is set in stone yet.

      It's also worth remembering the 1998 Quebec election. The Liberals and PQ were neck and neck with each party attaining around 43%, and as a matter of fact the Liberals even WON the popular vote, with close to 30,000 votes MORE than the PQ. What was the end result? The PQ still won the election....with a majority--76 seats for the PQ and only 48 seats for the Liberals!

      I think we're headed for something quite similar on April 7th. The only factor is the possibility of CAQ and QS grabbing JUST enough seats to prevent either party from forming a majority. We could very well have another PQ minority....or Liberal minority, sending us back to the polls in a year's time.

      Should be interesting to see how this plays out....though whoever wins, I still see Quebec going rapidly downhill.

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    4. I dunno, Apple. Elections at least make for a better blog and the Editor these days is doing a daily posting, something he normally doesn't do anymore.

      It has come to the point this be the norm until one party comes up with a means to run away from the rest of the pack, with the PQ having the least of the challenges. Had Charest been less negligent during his two majority opportunities and balanced the electoral map, this would not have happened.

      You're right about your last paragraph, i.e., there will be no economic resurrection for Quebec, and Couillard has already demonstrated quite clearly he's a timid sheep, not a leader.

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  31. Julian, it's wonderful to know we think so much alike living so far apart across the pond. I always hoped to get to England to visit my sister who married and lived at Stoke on Trent until her death. I consider England my mother country since they are responsible for settling this great land of Canada. I was a tot when my beloved uncle went off to war in 1939. When I asked why he had to go he answered, "My King needs me." He never came back. We did not go to fight for England, we knew it was our fight as well. England owes us nothing. Soldiers returning after the war had stories of how kindly they were treated. Many said the Queen Mum would visit Canadians stationed at the camp in Aldershot and she was like a mother way from home to the young Canadian lads.
    I'm glad you enjoyed Canada and I'm glad you met a rude separatist. You will be able to tell them over there what we're putting up with and speak from experience. I'm sure your daughter can use it for school reports.
    What you say about language is right. When King James ordered our Bible translated the scholars asked into what English should we do this. (There was 16 dialects in London alone.) he answered, "Why into the King's English of course.'"
    The Anglican Church where I play organ Sunday mornings still uses the same order of service that started in Rome and came to England when King Henry made himself Pope. Our unity is essential in these unruly days. My wish is that There'll Always Be An England,. Ed
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    1. I think that another commonality we share is basic common sense.

      “I'm going to eat my cake, I'm going have my cake, and did I mention that you’re going to BUY the cake? I also claim the license to call you every dirty name, bomb your coffee shops, abuse you on the radio, in print, on the internet and on TV....simply because of your language. If you or any English speaker in Canada or anywhere else stands in opposition to anything I say or do I shall cry and whine while accusing you of being a big bully toward my peaceful well mannered minority.”

      This is their entire political platform.

      Interesting fact: no Canadian has ever been conscripted to fight alongside the UK, your Uncle included, every one of them was a volunteer. Canada has never had any need for conscription(the draft) because their people for the most part have a strength of conviction not found elsewhere in The Americas. I lived in Keogh Barracks in Aldershot myself for 2 years until they became unfit for human habitation...

      I heard a very young US soldier once say that he loved the Canadians because they always brought the coffee and doughnuts to war. I informed him that a Canadian would offer him a large double- double and a cherry cheese Danish and when he lowered his mouth to eat it he would find his carotid artery bitten out if he didn’t check himself. Canada has ferocious warriors alongside whom it has been my intense privilege to serve, I even had the pleasure of hearing a Canadian soldier yell, “fix bayonets” during a contact in Kandahar which raised a spontaneous cheer from us in the Regiment of Welsh Guards who felt we were reduced to simply ‘along for the ride’ status at that point(ISAF was under Canadian command at that particular time), so he must really have been in amongst it. They have distinguished themselves above and beyond in Iraq and Afghanistan and indeed every conflict in which they have ever served. I am very happy that the last of them left Afghanistan today(19th March 2014).

      We often attend Cardiff Castle which contains the ‘Firing Line’ which is the national museum of the Welsh soldier, my wife always stops at the ‘Canada Case’, we met a Canadian colonel there once who just so happened to have been born in my wife’s hometown.

      I worship in an 11th century Norman church, we are both also part of the Anglican Communion(my wife is a catholic but we've moved past that!). I like the 1662 Book of Common Prayer but the Church in Wales has embraced a more modern and inclusive form of service with ‘crystal clear’ English which I believe has taken a lot away from the Eucharist. I’ll mail you some pictures of the French Knights and their Wives at rest in our Lady Chapel who ruled over this land....maybe if the separatists actually realised that England’s modern history begins with a French king and a complete and utterly unequivocal conquest by the French then they may grasp the artificiality of the concept of ‘race’ and acknowledge that the English in the long run are just as ‘French’ as the French.

      I mean really, how far back does one go? My Father was born in Pakistan, my mother in England and I was born in Zimbabwe or Rhodesia as it was then and raised in West Wales. What am I? Am I Welsh, English, Pakistani or African? Wales is just where I live.

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      I’m a Caucasian and I’m physiologically identical to every other human. I speak English which is the International Language of Commerce, I also speak Welsh. Welsh is an ancient Celtic language spoken only in Wales and in the Chibut province of Patagonia in Argentina, nowhere else. Culturally, ethnically and physiologically my particular race is currently citizen of planet earth, if I am HONEST with myself and everyone else I can’t seem to attach any other more meaningful label given my personal heritage.

      Race is completely artificial and if someone is going to substitute ‘ethnicity’ for ‘race’ then I have to say I didn’t see much difference between someone from England, Ireland or Wales or Scotland or Quebec..........unless of course you’re simply being a bigot with language as the qualifier rather than skin colour.

      Welsh can be used to construct the most beautiful poetry but I do not feel personally affronted that Boeing will never publish an instruction manual for the 787 Dreamliner in Welsh simply because I recognise that the Welsh words do not exist to make that a practical endeavour and it would simply consist of English words with welsh vowel sounds. Bilingualism is very cool, but it is not something to base an entire political movement on unless you have a terminal inferiority complex.

      I love Canada, Ottawa is now my favourite city in the entire world and my wife goes home regularly. Our daughter enjoys a good lifestyle, we can be anywhere in Europe in two hours from here in Wales and she gets to spend her summers in cottage country in Ontario. In the next few years I may convert my Law Degree and become one of those hideous English speaking immigrants being as I am, the spouse of a Canadian citizen...and Canada could always use another lawyer *tongue in cheek*.

      Our daughter may do high school in Canada and we do mention the ‘Quebec Poutine Incident’ quite often as does our child, which then always triggers lively discussion on the subject.

      I shall now go back to reading your blog and leave the commenting to those most directly affected. Thanks so much for the reply, good luck, and keep on keeping on.

      Kind regards,

      Julian Graves.

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  32. Harper and Canada should continue to keep their comments to themselves, at least until the election is over. If there's one thing that Quebec separatists hate, it's an Englishman telling them what they cannot do.

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    1. Harper is not an "Englishman." He's a Canadian -- and, as prime minister of Canada, part of his job is ensuring this country remains intact. That includes "telling them (separatists) what they cannot do."

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  33. Why don't any of these trolls EVER address the topic that the Editor writes about? Trying to read comments and all this crap and giggling and taunting just makes them look like complete idiots -
    Don't they know people outside of Quebec read this blog?
    Wouldn't they at least make an effort to look a little more intelligent - and capable of conversation - or debate? How utterly and completely embarrassing for them.

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    1. @jhfagfjahgfjakfhliaysf87ydsjds

      Shhhhhh...Relax...Écoutez cette belle chanson qui devrait vous aider...shhhh

      Mommy Daddy

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zebHLzhFMd0

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    3. The trolls don't write about the EDITOR"S topics because it's their duty to do otherwise. Their job is to detract from serious debate and suck others in to waste time with them. Unfortunately, some of our best members choose to satisfy their needs to corrupt our words. The trolls do their job well, they seek out the weakest and most selfish minds and prey on them with ease. Ed

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  34. Hi all,

    So I am in Montreal tonight. I attended Montreal Board of Trade conference with Hillary Clinton at Palais des congres. It was a full-house event with who's who of Quebec business and politics are all there. I would think that Mr. Berlach was there, being a successful businessman he is, but I guess not. I guess he was at the Bell Centre watching Vanek scored his first Canadien goal - and getting a hattrick in the process - during the Colorado game.

    Anyway, the screen showed when the VIPs entered the hall and took their place. When Philippe Couillard entered the room he was greeted with roaring applause. So much so that he had to stop and waved to the crowd before taking the seat. When Denis Lebel, Denis Coderre, Regis Lebaume, Francois Legault, John Baird entered the room, the crowd did not react. When Pauline Marois entered the room, she was booed voraciously, making her hurriedly scurry to her seat.

    I do hope that it is a good omen to the upcoming election. But again, the participants represents the best and brightest of Quebec and Montreal society. PQ voter bases are in the Gaspe, Saguenay and Chicoutimi. Those who have no idea what lies behind their county lines.

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    1. "Those who have no idea what lies behind their county lines."

      Alors que les électeurs libéraux étaient bien au courant de toute la corruption qui existait au sein du parti.

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    2. of course. they are not even ashamed. lpq's president fears they may lose friends if they agree on an ethics code. not even a joke:

      http://tinyurl.com/l6tyksj

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    3. "But again, the participants represents the best and brightest of Quebec and Montreal society."

      what makes you think so troy?

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    4. TROY, thank you. Your words are digging deep into my heart. What you've just said peaks louder than any poll Ed.

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    5. " lpq's president fears they may lose friends if they agree on an ethics code."

      Hmm sounds like the PQ and talking about separation or a referendum. Passing an ethics code isn't hard for the PQ they are of the opinion they can break and ignore any law or code the place upon others. PKP is fine with his company ownership where others are not, and the PQ can call an election where it is undemocratic if others do it! Still waiting to hear more about Pauline's dealings with the FTQ...

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    6. student Tuesday, March 18, 2014 at 10:40:00 PM EDT

      "But again, the participants represents the best and brightest of Quebec and Montreal society."

      what makes you think so troy?



      Because I was there and you were not.

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    7. @student

      apply water to burned area

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    8. "Ethics"??????????? What is quebec even doing talking about ethics? Has anyone even been listening to the Charbonneau Commission? It's clear that none of these people have "ethics" so for the PQ to bring up "ethnics" when talking about Dr. Couillard is laughable. I hope he makes her look like the fool she is when she brings up Porter (nothing has ever been proven against Dr. Couillard in this regard) and brings up her and her husband's dealing with the FTQ. I know he says he doesn't like these personal attacks but sometimes you have to fight back with the ammunition you have at hand and Miss Piggy is guilty as sin in all these backdoor deals done with crooks and the unions. Tit for tat Miss Piggy! I hope you go down big time you old bat!

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    9. " the participants represents the best and brightest of Quebec and Montreal society"

      Troy, never thought I'd say this, but in student's defense... Marois was there. I doubt she represents the best and brightest...

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    10. Now that Rizutto is dead they think they have turned the corner on crime in Quebec.

      That's mighty big of them standing up to face the problems head on finally at the same time wink wink.

      The replacement mobsters are slowly moving into place. They will be allowed entry as usual. If Quebec can;t steer construction business to corrupt companies and unions, the Quebec model becomes broken.

      It's the same incompetent bunch running everything. Just look at the traffic construction madness that is about the seize Montreal/NDG/turcott etc.

      They only important thing is the union is home by 2:30 pm just like all the super hospital works that leave early every day.

      You don;t want to be on Decarie at 2:30 in the afternoon on a "work day". It's a stampede of construction workers leaving early the super hospital.

      It's most important the the union construction worker is not inconvenienced.

      Working 3 shifts a day to get the work done and not inconvenience all the CITIZENS? Nah. Not important.

      This is Quebec. Citizens are here to serve the interests of politicians and the unons and provide the money.

      Inconveniencing 30% of Montreal for years at a time, filling the air with pollution simply so lazy Quebec overpaid construction workers can work 7-3 M-F and not a moment outside of that without double and triple pay.

      None of which we can afford.

      If KPK agreed to dismantle all the construction unions and open competition in the construction industy by tearing down all barriers Quebec might have a chance.

      This is what Quebec really needs. A massive kick in the pants and dismantling of the failed Quebec model of supporting the unions at all costs.

      With freedom of choice you can;t force French down people's throat all the time however.

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  35. "Those who have no idea what lies behind their county lines."

    Alors que les électeurs libéraux étaient bien au courant de toute la corruption qui existait au sein du parti.

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    1. of course. they are not even ashamed. lpq's president fears they may lose friends if they agree on an ethics code. not even a joke:

      http://tinyurl.com/l6tyksj

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    2. Hmm. Don't hear much about PKP in last few days.

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  36. With all the plan-less separation talk as of late, this seems oddly appropriate

    http://tinyurl.com/lyvj54b

    Work? Lets talk of other things! Said the Pauline.
    Follow me my naïve separatists, said the Pauline, but lets talk of other things, callooh, callay!

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  37. From the Rationalist:

    I disagree with you, Mr. Editor.

    Stephen Harper is wise to remain silent during the election campaign. If forced to pick sides, francophones would choose their native son, or in this case, their native daughter over a Westerner who is very unpopular here. Also, intervention from Ottawa would diminish Philippe Couillard's stature as leader of the NO forces in this referendum, correction: election.

    While Harper may be silent, his presence when it counts the most will be felt. He's scheduled to fly to Kiev next weekend. As the only western government leader to visit since the occupation of Crimea, he will be covered by the international press and undoubtedly by Quebec media. He needn't say a word about referendums or separation. He will be in a land shaken to the core by these two events with the resulting instability for all to see.

    Instability. The last thing Quebecers like.

    That together with what will probably be a good performance by Couillard in the debates should put the Liberal Party in majority government territory by April 7th.

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    1. I'd hope Harper would correct pie-in-the-sky separatist dreams in a referendum, actively calling out lies and nonsense.
      I agree w/the Rationalist here, though - - he's playing it cool on the sidelines

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    2. Yes, there's really been nothing for Harper to talk about. Does he need to actually say, no, you can't have a seat on the Bank of Canada?

      This is what's so amazing, after 40 years of this there still isn't any kind of a plan. What's been said so far this campaign, using the Canadian dollar, open borders, Canadian passports, etc., sounds exactly like the way things are now. What would be different?

      Every industry is regulated in Canada, from the Dairy Board to the SEC to the CRTC, labour laws, drug laws etc., and still, after all this time we have no idea how any of these would change in an independent Quebec.

      It's kind of surprising that separatists haven't demanded any details at all, but it seems now that hardline separatists will accept any kind of independence. It really isn't a political movement, it's about, "feelings." And that can't be addressed through politics, that's personal. Clearly many Francophones "feel" perfectly at home in Canada and some don't.

      It does look now like separatism will go the way of socialism in Quebec and fade away.

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  38. And for your reading pleasure:

    http://goo.gl/1vNTcE

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    1. And just in case the seppies keep insisting that the natives are interested in a separate quebec:

      http://goo.gl/FJSDqe

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  39. Good morning REPLY. I see that at the bottom of your post and I take it that's the name you've chosen to grace us with. Good name, I see it lots of places on the blog.
    Seriously, keep posting you're straight thinking words. While others are begging Ottawa to intervene they don't realize that a word from Harper could be the catylist that sends separatists running back to the Marois camp. Ed

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  40. EDITOR< It seems that none of the REPLY are working.
    Kevin, I tried to answer but the REPLY buttons don't seem to open. You are right about not needing a referendum before or after the election. We have already poled the hoi polloi about signing the accord. The people said yes and Levesque said no. It's on record that the Quebec wants to sign, we don't need a referendum to see if they have hanged their mind.
    Arse,
    Kevin, you make a good point when you say polling for the Libs is often under rated. I've noticed that too. Another important detail will be not having the useless CAQ to split the vote. Kegault might have had good intensions but when he said separation possibly in ten yeaers he made his party redundant. Most large investments only start to pay off in ten years.
    The CAQ votes will go mostly to the Liberals. Anyone voting for the CAQ in the last election was voting away from the PQ. I can't see them going back.
    Thank you EDITOR for deleting Une Arse. Insults we take but attacks do not belong. Ed

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  41. Anonymous Buster of Shit ArgumentsWednesday, March 19, 2014 at 1:15:00 PM EDT

    Editor,

    Will you have a fresh debate page open so we can communicate in the comments section?

    Would really hate to go into tomorrow's debate with 200+ comments.

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  42. Straying a little from Quebec, I hope they can find a solution where Mr.Putin remains at the top. Perhaps a union like the E.U or
    the British Empire wit the Queen ofr an overseer. Russian leaders hve always held the power over Eastern Europe, probably because of their geography and history which is neutrally sited.
    I hope theydon't make the same mistake jfk made in the sixties when he gave in to hi brother against a man who knew more about the world than all of them . Adlai Stevenson asked Kennedy to send a message congratulating Krushchev for making a wise decision. Robert Kennedy furiously said, "no we won and that's it." Kennedy gave in to his brother even though Adlai advised him that at the moment he had the Russian leader in his pocket and it was essential to keep him in charge of the Kremlin. Kennedy refused and just like Stevenson predicted, the cold war lasted twenty years until Gorbachev, (good man that he was) stopped it. and cost untold fortunes that have hurt the American people needlessly. Do not corner the Russian bear. Ed

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  43. Shit buster, let's give people a chance to read and comment on what we have posted here. You're fights iwth the trolls don't leave us anything to talk about. Ed

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    1. Anonymous Buster of Shit ArgumentsWednesday, March 19, 2014 at 3:07:00 PM EDT

      Ed,

      I rarely, rarely interact with trolls and I won't apologize for getting excited over the fact that S.R / Roger Binette has finally been exposed.

      Second, you missed the point of my request to the Editor entirely. On debate night, tons of readers will be following and wanting to comment about what the candidates are saying.

      What this means is we're looking at getting about 200 comments in one night from the debate alone.

      Get it?

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