Tuesday, September 10, 2013

Is Animal Cruelty Part of Quebec Values?

It's somewhat disconcerting to listen to Quebecers drone on about those infamous Quebec values as if those who live here are more open and fair-minded then anywhere else in Canada.
This is the rationale employed by the PQ to assert the need for Quebec's very own set of societal rules.

It's a slick, albeit dishonest ploy, flattering Quebecers with the nonsense that they are better, in order to win electoral favour.

It's like telling an ugly person that he or she is handsome or beautiful. Even though that deep down they know they're ugly, the compliment is deeply appreciated and welcomed. Let's be honest, who of us is not susceptible.

And so, if Quebecers accept the PQ version that they are kinder and gentler than Canadians, the Charter makes sense, an affirmation of that view.

It has become part of the great separatist narrative that Quebecers are more environmentally friendly, socially responsible and in possession of values morally superior to those in the ROC, when in fact nothing could be farther from the truth.
We'll get back to that superiority complex, later in the post.

Have you noticed that every PQ defender of the proposed Charter of Quebec Values, (or changes to the present Quebec Charter of human rights and freedoms,)  starts off the discussion with the same refrain, the principle of equality between men and woman?
Every time I hear the assertion, I ask myself in which Canadian province or American state is there a codified regulation or rule that stipulates that men have entrenched rights superior to women.
The truth of course is that we already have a Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms that guarantees gender equality, this since 1982.
 (1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability. Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms
In the comments section of the Journal de Montreal, I found this humorous exchange, one that actually sums up the reality surrounding the question of Quebec Values.

Christian Langlois
Can somebody name one great Quebec value that isn't already included in the Charter of Rights and Liberties?
     JM B-49
     Shepard's pie and baked beans!
           RFIDNATOR
           and poutine! poutine???
So why start off the 'values' debate claiming ownership of a right that is already fully entrenched in law and which ALL Canadians, including Quebecers are already subject to?
Why?
Because playing the gender equality card is actually a clever sales ploy, the famous 'bait and switch' tactic that dishonest sellers employ to fool customers.
"Bait-and-switch is a form of fraud used in retail sales but also employed in other contexts. First, customers are "baited" by merchants' advertising products or services at a low price, but when customers visit the store, they discover that the advertised goods are not available, or the customers are pressured by sales people to consider similar, but higher priced items ("switching"). Wikipedia
Including rights that we already own and cherish within the proposed Quebec Charter of Values makes the nasty bits that follow easier to accept.
Or as Mary Poppins told us, "A spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down!"

Bernard Drainville, as slimy a politician as I have ever seen, deposited his draft law yesterday, prohibiting the wearing of religious symbols in public schools, the government, and just about everywhere the government has influence.
I know that I predicted that the interdiction wouldn't apply to doctors and nurses and even though he announced that it would, I remain convinced that in the end, the medical profession will be left alone.

As for Drainville, I cannot stomach this loathsome excuse for a politician who oozes disdain for minorities while feigning concern. When asked by a reporter if he found it normal that under the law, the Premier of the province could wear a hijab or kippah, but not a public servant, Drainville retorted sarcastically, that it remains to be seen if Quebecers would vote for a Hijab clad candidate for Premier.
What a charmer!

Drainville justified his proposed law based on the popular support of the people. If the people want it, it must be right!

Now leaders must listen to the people, but in the end they must do what is right, not what is necessarily popular.

I am reminded of President John F. Kennedy, who imposed desegregation across the United States against the popular will of the people.
In 1963, when faced with resistance in the South, he held firm, to the point where he sent in the National Guard to enforce desegregation at the University of Alabama.
It was a gripping confrontation between popular sentiment and the emerging political principle of equality. There was violent opposition, rioting, injuries and even deaths. But Kennedy remained resolute.

Had you asked Americans back then if they agreed with the principal of equal opportunity for Blacks, you'd have found that the majority were against the idea.
Kennedy delivered the country a stunning lesson in leadership, doing what was right, not what was popular.
The rest is history!.... Read a gripping account 

Here in Quebec, leadership means doing the bidding of the mob, if it will help with reelection. And so Mr. Drainville, all I can say, (with apologies to Lloyd Bentsen) is that "You're no Jack Kennedy"

In a hysterical reaction on the French news station LCN, the text crawl under the commentators read:

"response to accommodation crisis"
"Crisis" What crisis?
I'll tell you what a real crisis is.... losing forty-thousand jobs under the year-old PQ regime!

Now back to those wonderfully superior Quebec values that the PQ is so very proud of.

Just a few days ago, we were treated to another raid on another Quebec puppy mill, as sickening a story as you can imagine, emaciated and sick dogs, raised in filthy conditions. It happens all too often in Quebec. Read: Montreal SPCA seizes 90 dogs from South Shore puppy mill
Unfortunately, cruelty to animals is a value that separates Quebec from Canada.

Quebec ranks at the bottom of the list of provinces. Link
And let us remember those other values that separate Quebecers from Canadians, the miserly attitude towards charity and volunteerism. Read Quebec's Hoity-Toity, Self-Righteous Delusion of Superiority

I wonder if these Quebec values will be enshrined  in the legislation, to go along with that other great Quebec value..intolerance.

205 comments:

  1. Best post this year ... thanks.

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    1. Agreed. There’s no such thing as permitting “exemptions” from supposedly fundamental values.

      The PQ is such a farce… yet they know that their majority rural, uneducated, francophone, 45-to-54 year old base that will never see an immigrant laps up these phony Quebec “values” like mother’s milk…

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    2. Where's Contra when u need him/her..."and you want to make a country out of this" ?

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    3. Contra doit présentement manger un bagel quelque part dans l'Ouest de l'île et contra ne doit pas posséder de téléphone multifonction (intelligent).

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    4. J'ai l'impression que tu sois plus mangeur de bagels que Contra, de cela je ne me trompe pas.

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      I think Contra probably relized tjhat the Editor asked us not to put in stupid one liners. Hopefullly that's why we have the pleasure of no seeing it. Ed

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    6. Oh put a sock in it Ed. Hopefully Editor leaves that one-liner up long enough for you to read it.

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  2. Québec is certainly the most progressive canadian province and nation.

    But being "tolerant" doesn't mean tolerate just about anything, for example promoting religions, especially sick religions.

    BobbyJoe

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    1. Please define a sick religion !

      Sick religion for you is having a woman wear a burqa in the same way your wife/girlfriend could show bad religion by wearing a miniskirt.

      And please tell how tolerating a religion promotes it ! I'm quite curious how your logic works because for me, your logic is paraplegic.
      I guess you are one of those offended if a teller at SAAQ is wearing a hijab ? Basically you cannot pay your annual tax because the woman is showing a religious sign?

      Jesus...you really should keep your head in a barrel from now on.

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    2. Vous savez bien...Les religions qui encouragent de couper les mains des voleurs et de lapider les femmes infidèles,même dans les cas de viol,les crimes d'honneur,entre autres choses totalement insensées.

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    3. Les religions qui encouragent de couper les mains des voleurs et de lapider les femmes infidèles…

      From the delightful Christian Bible that informs Catholic morality:

      Deuteronomy 25:11-12
      11 If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, 12 you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.

      Matthew 18:8
      8 And if your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life crippled or lame than with two hands or two feet to be thrown into the eternal fire.

      Leviticus 24:16
      Whoever blasphemes the name of the Lord shall surely be put to death. All the congregation shall stone him. The sojourner as well as the native, when he blasphemes the Name, shall be put to death.

      Deuteronomy 21:18-21
      If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they discipline him, will not listen to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones.

      Exodus 21:17
      And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.

      Leviticus 24:16
      And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him.

      Deuteronomy 22:13-21 (regarding marriage violations):
      13 If a man takes a wife and, after sleeping with her, dislikes her 14 and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, “I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,” 15 then the young woman’s father and mother shall bring to the town elders at the gate proof that she was a virgin. 16 Her father will say to the elders, “I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. 17 Now he has slandered her and said, ‘I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.’ But here is the proof of my daughter’s virginity.” Then her parents shall display the cloth before the elders of the town, 18 and the elders shall take the man and punish him. 19 They shall fine him a hundred shekels[a] of silver and give them to the young woman’s father, because this man has given an Israelite virgin a bad name. She shall continue to be his wife; he must not divorce her as long as he lives. 20 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you.

      Deuteronomy 22:23-24 (For adultery, including urban rape victims who fail to scream loud enough):
      If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city.

      Numbers 15:32-56 (For breaking the Sabbath):
      They found a man that gathered sticks upon the Sabbath day. ... And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones.... And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.


      When it come to religions that encourage the cutting off of hands and the stoning of women, it is all too easy to demonstrate the medieval savagery that is commanded by the Christian Bible, which the Catholic Church venerates.

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    4. R.S as usual, your posts are always a SLAM DUNK!! s.r. did that hurt too? poor lil' troll lolol hehhehehhe

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    5. "From the delightful Christian Bible that informs Catholic morality"

      Jamais vu un catho avec une ceinture d'explosif pour plaire à son "Dieu" :)

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    6. @Simon - you might want to read up on the Crusades: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

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    7. Nous sommes en 2013 et certains individus semblent l'avoir oublié.

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    8. And you know what they say about those who forget the past... :-)

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    9. Obviously you know nothing about the Catholic religion Catholicism is mostly based on the new testament. The old testament was how the world was and the we received the Messiah and now we follow the new testament.

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    12. As a "retired" Catholic, I'm getting nervous about lines like: "When it come to religions that encourage the cutting off of hands and the stoning of women, it is all too easy to demonstrate the medieval savagery that is commanded by the Christian Bible, which the Catholic Church venerates."
      All "Christian" religions base their teachings on the so-called "Christian Bible," so singling out the Catholic Church is unfair.

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    13. I regret that the PQ is trying to divert attention from its poor performance by using religion as a bulwark. It is all too easy to fall into their cheap trap and I apologize for having succumbed to their diversion.

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    14. I don't know why SR is attributing violent ideals to religions, they haven't cornered the market on that. More separatists have set off bombs and murdered people in Quebec than religious people.

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  3. Intolerance is not new in canaya, particularly with respect to anything not WASP.
    Please keep your lessons.

    BobbyJoe

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  4. @Bobby

    BANG!!
    canaya?...Haha!

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    Un peu d'humour:

    Harper place le Québec sous tutelle

    http://lapravda.ca/harper-place-le-quebec-sous-tutelle/

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  5. You just demonstrated that you are not progressive as you claim.
    Please keep your ideas to vigile.net

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    1. Il n'a pas dit qu'il était (personnellement) progressiste,si je comprend bien,il fait référence à la société québécoise.

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  6. The survey found support for the proposed Quebec Values charter ​​is higher in the following segments of the population:

    Quebec Internet users who live outside of Montreal or Quebec City (70 per cent);
    those 45 to 54 years old (72 per cent);
    those with less formal education (no degree or equivalent to the high school diploma: 70 per cent);
    those who have French as their mother tongue (71 per cent).

    Drawn your own conclusions as to the type of person that supports this charter.

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    1. Vous oubliez l'ensemble de la fonction publique ainsi que plusieurs politiciens dont beaucoup d'anglophones à travers le canaya.

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    2. The PQ knows that their bread is buttered by rural, uneducated, francophone, 45-to-54 year olds.

      Knowing that are facing defeat in an upcoming election, given their record-setting unpopularity ratings, they went straight to the bottom of the barrel in a desperate attempt to try to drum up support.

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    3. Can't wait to take out the garbage!!! Spring can't come soon enough.

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    4. And yes..from here to then....it's gonna stink.

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    5. Don't smile just yet: http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/politique/politique-quebecoise/201309/10/01-4687939-charte-des-valeurs-publication-dun-manifeste-des-inclusifs.php

      Remember, the main electorate that supports your are backwoods bumpkins who've never met a non-white.

      In this link you'll find a statement that certainly jumps out: "Le manifeste, qui dit être signé par un regroupement de fédéralistes et souverainistes, explique en quatre étapes pourquoi il faut être opposé au projet de Charte des valeurs québécoises."

      Some seppies feel the movement is going too far.

      Not a good sign for your cause.

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    6. "Some seppies feel the movement is going too far."

      Nous allons toujours trop loin pour ceux qui ne vont nul part.

      :)

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    7. Way to paraphrase one of the worst separatist racists.

      Let us not forget that Falardeau referred to David Suzuki as a "japanouille."

      David Suzuki was an immigrant who did damn well for himself in life.

      And he did it all without trying to sell shitty picture of Anarchopanda. :-)

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    8. He did it by pulling off the great global warming scam. Suzuki is a fraud!

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    9. Re: "David Suzuki was an immigrant who did damn well for himself in life."
      David Suzuki was born in Vancouver. Maybe Pauline Marois considers him an "immigrant," but she would be wrong.

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    10. @ Joey,

      Do you have a background in science? The overwhelming majority (97 percent) of scientists agree that global warming is real and it is being caused by humans.

      Please read the following link closely:

      http://www.iop.org/news/13/may/page_60200.html

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    11. "Vous oubliez l'ensemble de la fonction publique"

      Other than lives outside of Quebec city the majority of them fit the other 3 criteria. Also I didn't know you had stats on the rest of Canada's opinion, considering you keep complaining about Quebec bashing I'd assume they'd be swinging the other way, can't really have it both ways.

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    12. @thatguy

      New survey suggests growing support for Quebec secular charter

      Says 66% want religious symbols banned for civil servants

      http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2013/09/10/quebec-montreal-survey-suggests-secular-charter-support.html

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    13. Le syndicat des fonctionnaires appuie la charte des valeurs

      http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/politique/politique-quebecoise/201309/11/01-4688273-le-syndicat-des-fonctionnaires-appuie-la-charte-des-valeurs.php

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    14. Actually you arn;t up to date anymore.

      Even the most ardent beleiver in global warming is having trouble with the data these days.

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/10294082/Global-warming-No-actually-were-cooling-claim-scientists.html

      If you want a good laugh watch this 1 min ad from 1976

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUq0JnaIock

      We have a minute effect on the temperature of the plant. We can pollute and radiate our land yes. The sun is in control of temperature. Co2 and our brief period onthe plant are an insignificant influence vs the energy radiating from the sun every day.

      Politicians and actors like Leonard Nimoy have been oscillating about this for years.

      Let;s review

      first we though we were goign to have global cooling
      then we learned that global warming was really the problem
      now we are learning that it's going to be global cooling again..

      Cooling is 2 for 1 so far even if you arn;t a man of science.

      Remember into your childhood and somewhere at some point you learned that the sun will burn itself out. This part isn;t conjecture, like AL Gore inventing the Internet(ha), or being a global warming leader (profiteer).

      As it burns itself out over the next million of years the intensity will go down. When you turn the heater down, what happens..

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    15. If you dig into the poll SR (which is the same one I posted from originally) they bias the results. They do this by having a misleading preamble, it does not actually say what the charter actually says, it implys all religious symbols will be banned equally, including the cross, which makes the charter seem more equally applied and not hypocritical, which it is in it's current form. Their scale does not include a neutral point. The 66% also includes 28% of extremely limp support for the charter (tend to agree). They also fail to report any demographics, means, std, or most questions and results, it's hard to even guess at the generalizability of this poll as hardly any information is given. Its good for a laugh but that's about it.

      As to the Civil servants union, these are the same people who supported bill 14 for the sole reason that if it passed they wouldn't have to speak English and it would make their jobs easier, what a class act. Considering how they are notorious for discriminating and not hiring either minorities or anglos and hence are mostly old francophones, I can't say it's surprising, they also know where their bread is buttered and who to suck up to to get plum jobs (hint it's the party in power). Shocking how most other unions are coming out against it though.

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    16. cebeuq

      One outlier year does not completely reverse a model, it might modify it slightly but all of the "experts" and "scientists" they quote as claiming an ice age is coming in are the same nutters who have been against global warming for years, they haven't changed their minds based on new data.

      this is a response peice http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/09/10/climate_change_sea_ice_global_cooling_and_other_nonsense.html

      and this is a graph showing the opinions on global warming:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Climate_science_opinion2.png

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    17. cebeuq,

      "As it (the sun) burns itself out over the next million of years the intensity will go down. When you turn the heater down, what happens.."

      Actually, the sun will become a red giant in several BILLION years and will expand in size. Then the earth will be engulfed by the sun, cooked, and all life will be extinguished.

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    18. cebeuq,

      "The sun is in control of temperature. Co2 and our brief period on the planet are an insignificant influence vs the energy radiating from the sun every day."

      The level of CO2 does have a major impact on the temperature of planets. Venus is a good example. From Wikipedia:

      "The CO2-rich atmosphere, along with thick clouds of sulfur dioxide, generates the strongest greenhouse effect in the Solar System, creating surface temperatures of at least 462 °C. This makes the Venusian surface hotter than Mercury's, which has a minimum surface temperature of −220 °C and maximum surface temperature of 420 °C, even though Venus is nearly twice Mercury's distance from the Sun and thus receives only 25% of Mercury's solar irradiance. The surface of Venus is often described as hellish. This temperature is higher than temperatures used to achieve sterilization."

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  7. Intolerant ...WASP...great. Not even when they let the French stay here? Hypocrite...

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    1. "Not even when they let the French stay here"

      Je crois que nos amis Acadiens et franco-manitobains auraient deux mots à vous dire.

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  8. Quebec's Values Charter Buzz Boosts Parti Québécois, Poll Suggests

    "A poll by Léger Marketing for Le Devoir released over the weekend showed the PQ gaining five points since June to hit 32 per cent, putting them a close second to the Liberals, who were down two points to 36 per cent. François Legault's Coalition Avenir Québec trailed in third with 18 per cent, down a single point."

    "A poll by Forum Research also showed a divide between Quebec and the rest of the country, but not to the extent some had perhaps expected. Overall, Forum found that 42 per cent of Canadians approved of the PQ's plan (including 58 per cent of Quebecers, very similar to Léger's findings), while 47 per cent disapproved. A majority of Canadians disapproved of it in every region outside of Quebec, except Alberta. But a significant minority were not put off by the plan either, with approval ranging from 35 to 40 per cent depending on the region, and disapproval never being higher than 56 per cent."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/09/04/quebec-values-charter-pq-poll_n_3862546.html?utm_hp_ref=tw

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    1. Vous avez trouvé d'autres racistes pour être d'accord avec vous! Est-ce le commençement du dégel des relations Québeco-Albertaines?

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    2. You have found other racists to agree with you! Could this be the beginning of a thaw in Quebec-Alberta relations?

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    3. Hai trovato altri razzista d'accordo con te! Questo è l'inizio del disgelo delle donne relazioni Quebec-Alberta?

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    4. How strange… I’m certain that the Editor immediately zaps comments in other languages from every single earnest contributor, as per his rules, and yet he continues to blatantly give preferential treatment to a nuisance poster who does exactly the same thing… which is all meant to demonstrate the Editor’s total open-mindedness, I suppose.

      Life is good for useless internet trolls on this blog, obviously.

      Just like it is for the useless separatists who suck upon the teat of Canada without ever having to actually stand up for themselves independently… Hello, “Vive le Québec”… I’m looking at you!

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    5. Les Italiens ont beaucoup contribués à l'essort du Québec R.S...Seriez-vous raciste?

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    6. When it suits him they are noble contributors, but most of the time he refers to them as mafia bums....

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    7. Moi j'aime les pasta lorsqu'ils servent au "Québec bashing".J'aime lire les menus de restos en italiens mais je suis d'accord pour les banir des médias sociaux.

      ?!?

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  9. Editor, I really think you're losing it!


    This following is a cut-and-paste of what you wrote above: "...if Quebecers accept the PQ version that they are kinder and gentler than Canadians, the Charter makes sense, an affirmation of that view."

    "than Canadians"? Is that what you meant to write? I hope you intended to write "than other Canadians". Your lexicon in these articles is really starting to scare me. It's bad enough the term "English Canada" exists. There is no doubt the separatists like to use semantics to try and soften their true agenda, but here we are entering the 40th year of the post-Bill 22 era and with each passing government, the screws are continuously and perpetually tightening.

    In the last ongoing 40 years, we've seen English, an official language of Canada, from being a freely used language in Quebec to having to be second or smaller on outdoor signs than Canada's other official language, to English being for all intents and purposes forbidden on ALL signs (indoor, outdoor, lit and unlit, large and small), to being ruled unconstitutional but intercepted by a supposedly federalist government legislating a law invoking the notwithstanding clause, to twice the size and twice the number and indoor and outdoor to laws to close off admission to English language schools due to too many "loopholes" by a supposedly federalist party to that same so-called federalist party hiring more language inspectors and hiring a head of the anti-English language "offeese" that is a fascist zealot to having another fascist zealot who now comes up with a new Charter of Bigotry that goes around deciding the size of religious symbols that are allowed vs what are not allowed and what clothes you can and cannot wear.

    So there is the last 40 years in a nutshell. What is the next thing this nutbar state is going to rule illegal or unlawfully distasteful? This bullshit has been going on for going on a half century, so what's next?

    Somebody answer me, puh-leeze...WHAT'S NEXT?

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    1. Your manifesto is not bilingual, therefore don't expect my signature, regardless of my ability to read it nor my support for your cause.

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    2. Even after we have spent 300 years contributing to the development of Quebec, a group that claims to be dedicated to our inclusiveness continues to marginalise its anglophone population with unilingual manifestos and yet is seeking our support.

      Cherchez l’erreur. SMH.

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    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJUJSaE154E

      Some day, just maybe some day it would be nice if the truth finally came out about Trudeau”s deception, this fraud that was forced upon the country. Yes his charter of wrongs and restrictions.

      Some of what really went on was printed in French in Quebec, but the brain dead media outside kebec refuse to talk about the truth. They refuse to discuss the lies, the main reason this charter was forced upon the country in the first place. All we get outside kebec is spin, BS and more spin, all lies.

      You have to fully understand who this person was. Trudeau was an anti-English language metis (he was not French) bigot. He despised out real BNA history. He was anti-Semitic, hid in a monastery during the war, supported separatism, supported a French only Kebec, supported the banning of the English language in Kebec, while forcing the French language all across the country. He bragged about doing this. He bragged and wrote about turning Canada into a french nation…he truly was a despicable, conniving, dishonest man. Go do some research, his true feelings are in print.

      Taking all this into consideration, why do you think he forced this French style charter on the country and why do you think his good friend Levesque did not sign it? This was planned all along. Create chaos in kebec and Ottawa…force everyone but kebec to sign it… There was nothing wrong with the BNA act, our original constitution.

      People keep saying that it was not signed by kebec (original spelling). Well now, Trudeau, Chretien and Ouellette are the only people to sign it, all from Kebec. It came from Kebec, Trudeu and gang of anti-English language, anti BNA bigots are the ones who came up with the idea in the first place. Yes indeed, force the rest of the country to fund whatever the French demand, enshrine it in the constitution, force bilingualism, multiculturalism on the rest of the country but don’t dare try and force this crap on kebec, no, no ST, not for our beloved Quebec

      “French power” folks, this is the term brought to Ottawa by Trudeau and his gang from Kebec, Marchand, Pelletier and the rest. They bragged about it and did it. You can find their quotes bragging about this online. I have read them myself.

      Until the charter is repealed and we go back to our original constitution, the BNA act, this country will continue to be divided, will continue to further and further into debt, will continue to live the lie of being a bilingual country, and all the spin and propaganda that has come with it, yes the linguistic duality lie, the 2 founding nations lie, the french only Kebec lie…See what he really did? We have lived this lie for 30 years now and its about time someone starts speaking the truth openly about what really went on in regards to the forcing of this mess, Trudeau and Kebecs charter of rights and freedoms. We have fewer rights and less freedoms now because of this hoax, this fraud.

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    5. Yes, I agree - why is this manifesto in french only? If you don't believe in discrimination, then prepare this in english also and renounce discrimination against the anglophones that reside here as well. I too will not sign it until you take ALL discrimination into account and not just religious discrimination! The discrimination started with the anglophones; let it also end with the anglophones!

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    6. Give it a rest, guys. The authors are practically all (with one notable exception) de-souche. Sure it'd be nice to have it in both languages... but are you seriously gonna pooh pooh it over that?!

      Either way, I leave it up to you to look within yourselves and, if you can, appreciate the message distinct from the unilingual packaging.

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    7. "The authors are practically all (with one notable exception) de-souche"

      2 out of 3...

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  11. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE FRANKFORTWednesday, September 11, 2013 at 6:15:00 AM EDT

    @Editor:

    Your quebec bashing seems to have reached beyond the obsessive.
    I do recognize that quebec - along with its inhabitants are not perfect (read separatists) and the place kinda sucks more and more (crumbling infrastructure, enormous public debt, etc)but sometimes you are -Editor - what you post about: you display indications of being intolerant and racist yourself.
    If you hate quebec, move away. If you prefer to stay, put up and shut up. At the very least learn french and fully integrate into quebec society.
    In your case I would totally move out of there...

    I hate when people complain about a situation but offer no solution!

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    1. If we didn’t care about living here, we would be indifferent to its problems and have left already… just like you.

      So shut up already, you dingleberry.

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    2. Thank you R.S. - I agree with you entirely. This guy never has ANYTHING TO OFFER THIS BLOG except insults and telling everyone to move. He is even more annoying than student and S.R. and I wish to hell he would keep his stupid opinions to himself. I resent him making the same comment to the Editor of the blog as we need more people like him to speak out against what is going on in quebec rather than keeping everything under the carpet as the seps usually try to do. Go to some other blog and annoy people - which is what you excel at un gars! You're in Germany now - forget us and we will forget you immediately when you stop putting your stupid comments on this blog. So shut up already, you dingleberry. The best advice ever!

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    3. "If we didn’t care about living here, we would be indifferent to its problems..."

      Une chose est certaine,c'est que vous et peggy,semblez fort indifférents à la nécessité de pouvoir communiquer en français au Québec.

      Je me trompe ?

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    4. Just to be clear, on the subject /definitiont of "dingleberry"

      din·gle·ber·ry
      /ˈdiNGəlˌberē/
      Noun
      vulgar. A particle of fecal matter attached to the anal hair.
      vulgar. A foolish or inept person.

      Hahahahahhahahahahah.. Something tells me that the first definition rather than the second is more in line with what R.S was thinking....LOLOLOLOLOL...

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    5. Moving forward...I say we refer to blog trolls as dingleberries !!! Very catchy and very apropos, Iolololol...(yes, I have a lot to say this morning)

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    6. Depuis que vous avez joué avec mon gros nerf ToTo,je suis prêt à vous suivre n'importe où.

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    7. Lol lol...ahhh out of the mouths of babes...and dingleberries lol....you clueless schmuck...I'd re-think that one...lol

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    8. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE FRANKFORTWednesday, September 11, 2013 at 11:42:00 AM EDT

      @cutie:
      "He is even more annoying than student and S.R. and I wish to hell he would keep his stupid opinions to himself"

      I trust then, than anyone with an opinion different than yours is labelled "stupid".
      That's pretty intolerant, but from you cutie, an intolerant anglo racist it comes as no surprise.
      TO R.S.: OBVIOUSLY MY MOVE AWAY OR SHUT UP REVELATION STRUCK A CORD, HE HE...

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    9. You say you are an intelligent person (or at least pretend to be) - what exactly are you doing on this blog? What is your purpose here? You do nothing but antagonize both sides of the debate with stupid comments and I just don't get what the hell you're up to. Does anyone get what you're up to? You think I give a shit what you call me you ignoramus? Why don't you shut the hell up and leave us alone? Take your girlfriend's advice and screw off with your stupidity. We have no interest in anything you have to say. At first I thought you were a nice francophone that had moved away and had something meaningful to tell the francophones that read this blog but it became very apparent very quickly that you don't give a shit for anyone but yourself.

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    10. Cutie.....Exhibit B

      He is living proof "They" suffer from an acute identity crisis, half the time he indulges in self-loathing, and the other half, trying to defend what's left of the French Canadian in him....classical ! I repeat....Exhibit B !!

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      AnonymousTuesday, September 10, 2013 at 9:07:00 PM EDT

      FROM ED
      I don't know if anyone got the point from my earlier post. Simply that French having more babies does not help the economy because they grow up and land on welfare which is more of a drain. Educated immigrants is the answer. Ed
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      UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE FRANKFORTWednesday, September 11, 2013 at 6:19:00 AM EDT

      @ED

      Your biased thought process has all franco people growing to be on welfare. You should revive the KKK in Montreal. Very racist of you. I am not on welfare.
      AnonymousWednesday, September 11, 2013 at 12:55:00 PM EDT

      FROM ED
      You are also not in Quebec. Thankfully. Ed

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    12. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE FRANKFORTWednesday, September 11, 2013 at 4:13:00 PM EDT

      @cutie
      It must just kill you being way too poor in order to move across the river, eh?
      That thought alone makes me win this debate. Keep your insults with your foul mouth.
      Real ladies never swear BTW...

      @ED
      Only a narrow minded racist such as yourself paint all peoples with the same brush. All quebecois are raised to become welfare recipients? WTF?

      99% of quebec anglos have their heads screwed on straight and are nice, outgoing citizens. The 1% hang out here complaining how racist the francos are while dishing out some of the most serious racist remarks that nonetheless remain only perceptive.

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    13. Pee off you idiot! You're not wanted here. Your opinions and quotes are stupid and self absorbed. You wouldn't know a "real lady" if you fell over one.

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    14. Well said Gars!!
      Cutie you're the one with stupid opinions and we're all tired of youre whining.

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    15. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE FRANKFORTWednesday, September 11, 2013 at 5:45:00 PM EDT

      @Joey
      Don't mind "cutie" too much; she is an old bag with antiquated beliefs. Not her fault, she is an anglo stuck in quebec because she has no money to move out, hence her miserable attitude. I pity her husband however he must have left her since she is sooooooo negative. Plus the swearing out of her foul mouth is borderline repugnant. She whines all day and everyday here. Her comments are far from constructive all the while offering no solutions to her problems.
      She is a bitter bigot.

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    16. Speak for yourselves you racists. Everyone on here knows Un Gars and has no time of day for his whining about all his money from Alberta coming to quebec. And you know bugger all about me = only what I say on here and like the rest of you miserable bigot separatists, I can lie with the best of you. One solution would be for all the separatists to get the hell out of Canada and live by themselves. Does that solution suit you and your buddy Joey? Bitter yes; bigot = not on par with the rest of you!

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    17. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE FRANKFORTWednesday, September 11, 2013 at 9:17:00 PM EDT

      @cutie.
      You live in quebec, Peggy. quebec is not Canada, Peggy.
      Maybe you should leave quebec Peggy. quebec has no room for anglo racists, Peggy.
      You wish you had my money, Peggy. I'm having a friggin' blast in Germany working with an intelligent team, without any racists or bigots or bitter folks like you, Peggy.

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    18. Wednesday, September 11, 2013 at 1:39:00 PM EDT
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      AnonymousTuesday, September 10, 2013 at 9:07:00 PM EDT

      FROM ED
      Wednesday, September 11, 2013 at 1:39:00 PM EDT
      FROM ED
      AnonymousTuesday, September 10, 2013 at 9:07:00 PM EDT

      FROM ED
      Wednesday, September 11, 2013 at 1:39:00 PM EDT
      FROM ED
      AnonymousTuesday, September 10, 2013 at 9:07:00 PM EDT

      FROM ED

      HOPE IT HELPS!

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  12. The most delicious proof that Drainville's Charter is just a way to target muslims was when he was asked if officials would still place their hand on a bible to swear oaths.

    The question caught him completely off guard, and he mumbled "Oh my god... we'll get back to you."


    Secular? My hairy bits.
    --Johnno

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  13. LordDorchester

    The New York Times, a newspaper of record unlike Le Journal de Montreal has an unflattering piece about the PQ values charter.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/11/world/americas/quebec-calls-for-ban-on-wearing-symbols-of-faith.html?_r=3&

    Is this how we attract the best and the brightest to Montreal? The PQ is doing its best to expel as much "NO" voting Federalists out of Quebec as possible and thinks this will work. The PQ are gravely mistaken. We will stay and we will fight back even harder. If this is a glimpse of what an independent Quebec will look like, then we have to beat these assholes down. No village idiots will dictate the laws of this land. Montreal is not Herouxville and never will be no matter how hard the PQ tries.

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    1. I say Chantal Hébert gives popo some English language lessons LOLOLOLOLOL !!!!

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  14. Nothing new: a crisis fabricated by the PQ in search for a new enemy to justify its presence on the political scene and to whip up emotionally le petit peuple (and of course to keep the small uneducated flock under its thumb)...As new as snow in December.
    We might be calling it la Charte des Douleurs as in the end it will hurt back the PQ and its downtrodden desperate flock.
    The priority are JOBS right now plus a shaky, stagnant and almost dead economy.

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    1. @newCA, were it that simple and you would think that when ANY gov gets elected, they would take care of business...The People's Business, and therefore address urgent issues such as the Economy,,first and foremost, especially when u consider that you're walking in and the books are in the red by 251 billion $$$$$$$$. But no, not this government. This is Wonderland...and popo thinks she is Alice. This is also what happens when you have an irresponsible citizenry albeit a small portion of it who rallies to elect an incompetent government. We have sooooo much to be proud of!!! On the up side, one can only hope that from now till when they get the boot, they will just keep finding more rope to hang themselves. That alone should yield warm fuzzy thoughts in the rest of us who actually do have real value...and values!

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    2. Hang themselves politically of course...

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    3. Quebec's debt now stands at over $258 billion... your figure must have been from several weeks ago because another $7 billion have been added to it in that time.

      http://www.iedm.org/27-quebec-debt-clock

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  15. I think it is good to inform the American media, which is read by the Jewish community there, that one particular point about this Charter is the prohibition for staff in hospitals, schools and universities to wear the yarmulke. I would really like to see Andre Boisclair explaining it to New York Jewish community.

    Editor, maybe your son and your connection in New York can help to spread this issue?

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    1. I say let the world weigh in lol...worked for pastagate lol....and it is always a fine day when the nitwits are yet again embarrassed internationally. Popo maybe could care less cause she doesn't get out much, but the rest of them do, and when they do, they'll face scorn as usual. Newsflash: quebec is not an island on this planet lol. Let them learn the hard way...that it isn't. I say...LET THE WORLD WEIGH iN !!

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  16. And the PQ government does all this for short-term political gain. They try to pass a rather fundamental piece of legislation, which they know will not pass anyway, for vote-gaining purpose. Never mind the reactions from the population, never mind that it encourages professionals to move, never mind the condemnation from the outside world.

    It reminds me of a quote in Game of Thrones when Lord Varys talks about Petyr Baelish:

    "He would see this country burn if he could be king of the ashes."

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  17. These people are the most racist, bigoted, corrupt, xenophobic people in all of North America. If the world only knew what was going on in Canada, what the “French” (metis) were really up to…along with the racist anti-English language laws in Quebec a la bills 22, 178, 101…they have bragged about taking all of Canada and everything seems to be going as planned…”first Quebec, then the rest of the country…one step at a time…” PET, “how to take over a country through bilingualism…” SD

    If you only knew how bad things really were…the video clips below expose some of the scams…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW33xkVB-oI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhPcV0gtFR0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abOWJkf-Vh8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iGZE6zxoKQ

    Enjoy the latest video exposing this bilingual scam…and if care please pass it on.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZz61S3sTA8

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    1. Why always the emphasis on the word "Metis". How does it matter...

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  18. Interesting article editor, although I was expecting you to dedicate more than 5 lines to the actual topic (Animal Cruelty). It seems that we don't have very much to be proud of in that respect here in Quebec.

    I'm not sure if this was meant to be an argument to dismiss the animal cruelty caused by religious motives (mainly Halal and Kosher slaughter practices), but seems to me that just because something is already bad, that's not a valid excuse to continue or to make it even worse.

    You can't simply dismiss things like this
    http://tvanouvelles.ca/lcn/infos/regional/archives/2011/11/20111108-090143.html

    Maybe if we stopped accepting these kind of practices, we'd have a better record when it comes to animal welfare.

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    1. I'm not at all surprised with the terrible record of animal abuse in Quebec. I owned a summer cottage near a small, rural Quebecois town in the Outaouais region and I met some of the inhabitants. Some of them were extremely cruel to animals. For example, a trapper in the area got his jollies by skinning alive some of the beavers he caught. Trapping is cruel enough but to torture the animals like that is absolutely outrageous.

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    2. Quebecer of Tree Stump and lord Durham
      QUEBEC is the capitol of ANIMAL ABUSE AND ANIMAL TORTURE for the following reasons:
      1) Dog and cat torture in Mills. Factory Farming of PETS. Quebec has the highest rate of PUPPY MILLS per capita of population in the world. Please just google it.
      2) PET ABANDONMENT is triple the "normal" rate for civilized societies.
      3) There is No legislated protection for animals and no punishment for criminal torturers.
      Quebec is a safe haven for animal abusers and torturers.
      Quebec is known as the best place in the civilized world to be an animal abuser.
      please see my last post for more details.

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    3. Shameful to say the least. As an animal lover, I hate these people that care not a damn about them.

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  19. Great article. Don't listen to the trolls. We stay because we have hope for Quebec, but right now there is a lot of crap going on as you mentioned, and lots of xenophobes. Peace!

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  20. With the PQ in power, it has given license to ALL xenophobes to come out of the woodwork. Yes, so much to be proud of indeed ..in this province.

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  21. I really like the closing statement from Don MacPherson's piece: http://www.montrealgazette.com/opinion/Macpherson+Values+charter+conspicuously+about+secularism/8894631/story.html

    "One of the few Quebec commentators who supports the PQ values charter, Mathieu Bock-Côté, wrote on his Journal de Montréal blog that the crucifix in the Assembly is a symbol not only of religion, but also of identity.

    “It represents the symbolic predominance of the historic French-speaking majority in the public space,” he wrote.

    That’s what the PQ values charter is about. It’s about the supremacy of old-stock French-Canadians, and the ethnic nationalism characteristic of right-wing parties elsewhere in the world."

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  22. Francophones with real pride in "their" culture need to find a lab test they can use to genetically identify each other.

    Perhaps they can start a society "slaves of the king"/"La Premier 8000" etc.

    Every Quebecer gets a DNA test. Every Quebecer that can show he has genetic material from the original Francophone settlers is a real citizen with full voting rights etc.

    The rest of us, we can be "les autres". Makes it much easier to identify the pure laine and prove that they are.

    Makes a great exact basis to determine who is "culturally" superior to others.

    Simon can design the identity card for "primary citizens".

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    1. No one is saying we are superior. Everyone is welcome to Québec as long as the enter legally and they must obey the law of the land. Just like any other place on earth. If you dont like it dont come. Would your mother move to saudi arabia where she would have to cover herself , not be able to drive, not be able to leave the house unless shes accompanied by a male relative. No she wouldnt and i doubt she would try to change the law. So everyone is welcome here but dont expect to change out laws for you.

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    2. Who the hell expected you to change your laws? Name one incident of this happening - all of this is so racist it's unbelievable. Telling people how to dress and what jewelry they can wear! Who the hell do you people think you are? You are so stupid to think you can control this type of behaviour. How exactly do you propose to measure what size a cross is and who are you to tell people that they can't wear turbans rather than a hat especially in the winter? What harm does any of this do to the people of quebec? You are the most selfish, self centered people in all of North America. You tell people they are welcome here but then think it's OK to tell them how to dress! The nerve of you! Do they tell the girls in quebec not to wear shorts? No. Saudi Arabia tells people how to dress - are we to be like them? God what a bunch of bigots.

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    3. Vive le Quebec,

      Everyone is welcome to Québec as long as the enter legally and they must obey the law of the land.

      Which law? Quebec Charter of Human Rights and Freedom clearly states:

      Every person is the possessor of the fundamental freedoms, including freedom of conscience, freedom of religion, freedom of opinion, freedom of expression, freedom of peaceful assembly and freedom of association.

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    4. Yeah we're not allowed "Freedom of Expression" as we are anglophone and the allophones are not allowed either "Freedom of Expression" (forced to go to french language schools, no "freedom of religion" no "freedom of opinion", and if the PQ have their way, they will next be told who to associate with! They break their own Charter without a second thought to gain votes from the pur laine francophones that have been reassured that they are more "special" than anyone else. What a province and what a bunch of racist bigots.

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    5. All employers have right to impose dress codes. The ban is only for employees. The gov. has a right to create and change laws as it sees fit. The people voted the PQ and the people support this.

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    6. @Vive le Québec (libre)

      Certains anglos ont beaucoup de difficultés à comprendre cette chartes.Je crois qu'ils comprendront mieux lorsqu'elle sera mise en application...Enfin je l'espère.

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    7. @Vive - what part of Hooterville do you live in? Bigot. You only support rights for your own kind. Shame and pox on the lot of you! You will be outed by the whole world not just Canada for the miserable selfish gutless people you really are!

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    8. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE FRANKFORTWednesday, September 11, 2013 at 6:35:00 PM EDT

      cutie is obviously the resident WASP/KKK of this blog. Bravo?
      Haven't you ever thought "cutie" that you are the one who is miserable?
      Seek professional help from a psychologist, then move out of quebec. May I suggest Swift Current, SK?

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    9. Said it before but will say it again. Suck rocks you separatist and stay to hell away from Canada. We don't need your asinine comments here or anywhere and I intend to go back to ignoring your stupid posts.

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    10. @ Vive le Quebec (mort),

      "Everyone is welcome to Québec as long as the enter legally and they must obey the law of the land."

      Quebec doesn't follow the law of the land of the country of which it is a part - Canada - by bypassing the constitution and ignoring the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. It also disobeyed international law by contravening the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights with the discriminatory Bill 101. Quebec should practice what you're preaching.


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    11. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE FRANKFORTWednesday, September 11, 2013 at 9:13:00 PM EDT

      @cutie

      Me a separatist? You obviously had too much to drink tonight, Peggy.
      You live in quebec, Peggy. Not I. Suck rocks? You are a weak person, Peggy. A very ugly personality you possess, Peggy.
      Maybe if you stopped insulting perfect strangers on the net, maybe if you'd also get out more often, maybe if you'd learn a little french, you anglo racist, maybe you'd be happier, Peggy.

      In any case, Ottawa will NEVER stand up for anglos in quebec. Never. Peggy. Ugly. You.

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    12. New rule.

      cutie and un gars are only allowed to have one pissing match in one thread at a time.

      please

      Personally I'm tired of hearing about this bill and we have months yet to go.

      This is much like Bill 14 etc. The PQ doesn;t really care about winning. It's about rallying the troops and convincing them they have different values then canada(or the rest of the world).

      Can somebody remind me why a politician and party that do their utmost to avoid serious issues that plague our province should be rewarded with another election let alone giving them control of the "country"?

      Yet the uptick for the PQ bloodline in undeniable. the gazette might try to pass it off as Pauline "handling" of Lac megantic but it's the charter that excites the family.




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  23. Let's be done with Theatre....it's racist and he's racist...he can hide in his closet of excuses, he can spin it anywhichhway he wants, he can dress it up, dress it down put a crown and lipstick on it...It is Racist...He is Racist. At this point, one can only anticipate the next move.

    After all, what is left, except for an open admission..the likes of: "Yes we are RACIST...and what are you gonna do about it". Yep...It's coming fast like a fast train to nowhere.

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    1. AnecTOTE,

      Politicians these days can stand in front of a concrete wall. You ask them if there is a wall nearby. they spin around looking in all direction except where the wall is.

      Then they declare there is no wall nearby.

      The doublespeak from lawyers has infiltrated the rest of society. We can no longer get clear answers on anything.

      You can ask them if the grass is green. They will claim it's not actually green, it's just your cultural bias that makes you say that.

      People are so easily put off from pushing to get the real answer.

      Journalists no longer do their jobs. That's fallen to bloggers now. Journalists are largely just cheerleaders of whoever is in power at that moment.

      Unfortunately it seems to be everywhere. Look at Obama. He's managed to fuck up the Syria issue about as badly as Pauline could yet his liberal media friends just keep tossing him puffball questions and stroking him.

      The idiot is considering putting a largely "christian" (ie not crazy religious) society in between two warring factions of muslims. The Sunni and the Shia fighting in Syria.

      What kind of idiot would get into the middle of that? Only a fool would get involved. Obama is learning that running the USA isn;t like being a community organizer. His credentials up to this point consist of running around Chicago with a clipboard getting signatures and writing books about himself.



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    2. Oh oh. Here is more cultural insensitivity to others. In this case towards the REAL founding people of Quebec.

      http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2013/09/01/montreal-udm-red-face-frosh-native-dress.html

      From red squares to red faced war paint.

      What time does the French re-enactment of taking over and crushing the native land, culture and language show start?

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    3. Case in point - this scathing, sarcastic and satyrical blog post about the so-called charter of values called "the national beard".

      Simply said, it takes the ridiculous ideas to their logical conclusions.

      R.S., you should really translate this one if you have the time. It really is too delicious. Some excerpts:

      "vi)if the beard is justified by a "personal negligence" argument, the Inspector of Quebec Values will administer an alcohol test to the bearded suspect. Upon a positive result, the beard will be declared as conforming to Quebecer Values. In the case of a negative test, the inspector can infer a presumption of ostentatiously religious beard."

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    4. Yannick,

      While I understand that the article is a parody in nature, there is serious element in it. I raised this issue several weeks back.

      Sikh men are prohibited to cut their hair and beard as commanded bu Guru Gobind Singh. Muslim men keep their beard to follow the example of prophet Muhammad. Therefore, for them beard is an article of faith, and a visible one indeed.

      How then the Province will enforce which beard is an article of faith and which beard is ZZ Top or Duck Dynasty?

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    5. They won't, presumably. They'll stick to head scarves. For the reasons outlined by the satirical article above - only Muslims wear hijabs (or so the argument goes), but many people have beards. Therefore, much, much harder to make up a rule that only targets religious beards without also hitting pur-laine beards.

      There's also no faux-feminist point to be made by forcing men to shave their beards, so no easy capital to be gained.

      Though following the article, exemption 1 is "i) if the beard is declared "hipster", the bearded suspect will have to provide proof of residence in a radius of 1 km of the St-Viateur/St-Laurent intersection in Montreal"

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  24. http://www.cjad.com/CJADLocalNews/entry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10587221

    "Quebecers among the poorest in Canada: StatsCan"

    Imagine how little Quebecers would be making if Canada wasn;t sending all the cash.


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    1. En plus d'être raciste,vous méprisez les pauvres?Quelle vie pathétique vous avez.

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    2. Oh, it's not Quebec bashing anymore?

      When you choose to take a degree in "Art history" and then you can;t get a job, that's your own damn fault and you deserve what you get.

      Decisions have consequences. More students should be thinking beyond their next "student protest" and think of what they will need to do to make money in the world beyond having your hand out like the PQ teaches you.

      The more Quebecers that are dependent on the govt the better it is for the PQ. People that are dependent on the govt for all their money toe the party line much better and will not go against the govt for fear of losing all their benefits.




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    4. it's an ellipsis for "...how little MONEY Quebecers would be making..."

      Seriously S.R/BobbyJoe/jamal, If you spent less time rabidly posting inanities all day like this guy and actually tried -- even passively -- to lose your accent both in writing and in speech, maybe you'd be able to catch such (non-)subtleties of language and participate with more valuable content on this blog and elsewhere.

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    5. Je ne doute aucunement de vos qualités à titre de "coach de vie" et de pédagogue Tchiko mais ce n'est pas tant la qualité du contenu qui m'attire ici (et me fait perdre mon temps) mais davantage le plaisir de taquiner l'anglouille.

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    6. Pauhhhhhleeezzzeeeee...it's your insurrmountable sense of insecurity that keeps u glued to this blog. You fear the power we may gain in uniting and sharing and expressing what we really think and feel. You FEAR that we gain momentum that what is espoused and expressed on this blog reaches the far reaches of the globe....( too late for that I'm afraid) so you and the other dingleberries hang out here to constantly monitor and police and make nuisances of yourselves. AS IF lol

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    7. Bonjour ma chérie...Tu as fait de beaux rêves?Ta bonne humeur habituelle ensoleille mes journées et dis-moi,comment pourrais-je me sentir en sécurité lorsque tu es si loin de moi?

      A+ ma toute belle (même au levée) :)

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    8. Can someone hand me a can of RAID please? Thank you.

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    9. I have no sympathy for Quebecois even if they are poor. They deserve that! How can you be a decent person if you are lazy, racist, hypocrite, living off of Canada money but still brag about how superior you are?

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    10. "How can you be a decent person if you are lazy, racist, hypocrite, living off of Canada money but still brag about how superior you are?"

      Si je comprend bien,vous n'avez aucun respect pour les sénateurs canayens.

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  25. Laïcité: cessons de crier au loup

    http://blogues.journaldemontreal.com/martineau/franc-parler/laicite-cessons-de-crier-au-loup/#.UjCDhtkoW4a.facebook

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  26. Good post overall. This is just another example of why I feel that there is no future at all in this province except perhaps for the pur laine government worker for life. Other than that everyone else should be very worried. This charter is meant to appeal to the old school rural voter that has no experience dealing with immigrants and is worried about an increasing number of them coming here. As I said before I can sympathize one a few points but this charter is way over the top and totally unecessary..there are much more subtle ways one can deal with certain sticking points. This is pure politics and unfortunately our archaic first past the post system gives too much weight to the rural vote and not enough to the urban vote.
    Still not sure what is so grand about Quebec culture or values..honestly as the editor pointed out I am not impressed by many aspects of this supposedly superior culture. In the end the vast majority of quebecois I have met live more or less the same as any other canadiand or american..they eat the same crappt processed food..they watch the same tv shows and movies but dubbed in french..ok they do have a stronger entertainment industry but still it tends to mimic what the rest of north america is doing..they are as materialistic as other n.americans..but they have a much stronger attachment to the welfare state as their incredible sense of insecurity makes this a necessity to fight against their difficulty to compete with bilingual anglo/allophones..so the state does everything in its power to keep the pur laines hires in the public service of quebec. They have the sugar shack, poutine and are a bit more savvy gastronomic-wise..they are a bit more environmentally conscious but still use massive amounts of energy, a bit more european but that has more to do with their desire to emulate france yet most quebecois barely have a grasp of their own language. So in the end I think they will be in for a rude awakening one day when the bond agencies force their interest rates up and they are forced to cut their massive public infrastructure..the same day is coming to france too in the near future. You can only borrow so much so long..

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  27. Les anglos-canayens devraient aussi remettre leurs cours d'histoire au menu.

    "Now what you have to realize is that this whole time marois has created propaganda after propaganda causing a divide amongst people. The same clear division that levesque had back in 1995."

    -Jonny Dee sur "Put the canayan flag..." Machin truc

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  28. http://video.ca.msn.com/watch/video/canadians-deserve-better-than-the-pq-charter-trudeau/185tsy63n?src=CPPlayer%253ashare%253afacebook%253auuids&from=shareembed-facebook&ogvars=Y29uZmlnQ3NpZD1NU05WaWRlbyZmcj1zaGFyZWVtYmVkLWZhY2Vib29rJmFwPXRydWUmc3luZGljYXRpb249dGFnJmNvbmZpZ05hbWU9c3luZGljYXRpb25wbGF5ZXImbWt0PWVuLWNh

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  29. Thanks for the nod to animal abuse in Quebec as a distinctive feature of Quebec values since this month is the two year anniversary of the most historic bust of a puppy mill in history. Over 500-600 dogs rescued from one puppy mill, Paws R Us. FIVE- SIX HUNDRED TORTURED to the point of death..puppy dogs.
    The Humane society estimates there are 100,000 ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND TORTURE operations running in Quebec.
    If you estimate around 100 tortured animals per mill that equals 10,000,000, TEN MILLION victims of Quebec "values", starved, raped, beaten, disease ridden, SCREAMING IN PAIN AND HORROR every second of their SHORT lives crammed like factory farmed chickens in chicken coups, dying in their own piss and shit pus and blood.
    TEN MILLION of MAN'S BEST FRIEND AT THIS VERY MOMENT, RIGHT NOW, RIGHT HERE.
    WHY?
    the puppies sell for between 400-600 a piece. Do the math.
    Human trafficking ANIMAL trafficking have replaced drugs as the most profitable multi billion dollar industry in the world.
    Why is QUEBEC the capitol of ANIMAL TRAFFIKING in NORTH AMERICA? THE BEST PLACE TO BE AN ANIMAL ABUSER?
    Why are their only 5-6 inspectors for the ENTIRE territory of QUEBEC?
    Why is there NO legislature to punish millers and animal torturers?
    Why does Quebec still allow pet shops to sell puppy mill victims?
    Why are puppy mills in Quebec linked to biker gangs and drug trafficking?
    FOLLOW THE MONEY.
    Follow the little brown envelopes starting with the "inspectors" ending with the ministers.
    That's Quebec baby, not merely the MOST CORRUPT territory in modern history but the MOST EVIL.
    The relationship between animal torture and psychopathology, serial killers etc is well known.
    They start off TORTURING ANIMALS.
    and here in Quebec, end up eating their young.
    Wake up Canada. We have bred an evil puppy-dog torturing monster in Quebec. 2-3 million SOCIO/PSYCHOPATHS running amuck.
    MAN's BEST FRIEND is the most HORRIFIC VICTIM of Quebec's CULT of HATE and DESTRUCTION
    AND TRY TO SLEEP TONITE..IMAGINING THE SOUND OF TEN MILLION DOGS SCREAMING IN PAIN, right here in Canada in "La Belle Province"...
    while billions and billions are WASTED on " pretending" that this EVIL that is Quebec needs "protection"

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    1. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE FRANKFORTWednesday, September 11, 2013 at 5:48:00 PM EDT

      Your comment above is baseless unless backed by irrefutable proof. Why do you dish out such repugnant racial profiling?

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    2. PROOF? you obviously paid evil monster from the Quebec ministry of propaganda and disinformation)
      1) GOOGLE IT.
      2) follow media pages animal rights activist groups fighting daily the HORROR that is Quebec.
      3) anecdotal evidence. For the rescue of the 500-600 from the PURE EVIL that is Quebec, we had to call in an American special force, the same group that rescued the animals of Katrina, to RESCUE THE DOGS FROM THE QUEBEC MADE DISASTER/ HORROR of Quebec.
      The SIX HUNDRED tortured animals were subsequently tortured in a QUEBEC ministry facility for THREE MONTHS MORE under MAPAQ while the EVIL courts of Quebec decided their fate.
      This three month incarceration cost the tax payer "allegedly" 6,000 dollars a day.
      Of course, Quebec court gave PAWSR US a slap on the wrist and within a month they were up and running again.
      In fact, Quebec millers welcome busts. It is a grand opportunity to get rid of old sick dying stock at the tax payers expense and replace them immediately with new young stock.
      An never ending nightmare of animal torture for PROFIT of the pur laine.
      QUEBEC MAKES BILLIONS on animal abuse and torture.
      To fund their terrorist and treasonist agenda.
      Oh and btw.. the three month care of the 600 required at least 20 volunteers working 14 hour days..where did these volunteers come from? FROM FRANCO QUEBEC? The monsters responsible for the atrocities? OF COURSE NOT!
      THEY CAME FROM ALL OVER NORTH AMERICA, on their own dime. They came from Miami, Texas, Ontario, Nova Scotia....
      YET, we were FORCED to WASTE thousands of hours TRANSLATING everyday for the ONE ignorant unilingual "FC", thousands of hours lost that could have been spent helping the suffering dogs WASTED on the sociopaths of QUEBEC who caused the horror in the first place.
      There are truly no words, no modern concepts to "explain away" the pure horror and evil that is Quebec and bred where?
      CANADA, allegedly "one of the best countries in the world"


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    3. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE FRANKFORTWednesday, September 11, 2013 at 9:08:00 PM EDT

      Again, your comment above is baseless unless backed by irrefutable proof.
      Hope you feel better after all your ranting.

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    4. thank you for exemplifying, for proving, my case to the international community. that is QUEBEC spends millions a year on its MINISTRY OF PROPAGANDA AND DISINFORMATION to cover up its evil..and you are nothing but a squalid paid slave..
      a sociopsychopath
      sincerely, I do not know how your kind sleep at night, look yourselves in the mirror...
      ALL YOUR SELF HATE projected on the world...
      ALL your SELF HATE enacted torturing puppy dogs and kitty cats
      The TRUTH about the pure evil of Quebec is easily available to any real academic research.
      Which is of course why your MASTERS keep you uneducated,illiterate,unilingual,believing anything your masters dictate..
      meanwhile in the abomination that is Quebec MILLIONS of puppy dogs are being tortured to death. HOW THE FUCK DO YOUR KIND SLEEP AT NIGHT.
      Hopefully, your suicide rate, your low birth rate, the self hate and self destruction, of your kind will KILL YOU ALL OFF eventually.
      And the USA will take over Quebec as planned by Ottowa and Quebec City all along.

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    5. I have to hope you're right - that's one way to get rid of the separatists - let quebec become part of the U.S. They would put a stop to all this nonsense tout suite! Can't wait - can we vote for this tomorrow?

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    6. Cutie, you are a sad lot. You are trying to tell us that you are a seppie?

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    7. FROM ED
      Anonymous, you ask how can this happen? It's because we have a Prime Minioster who is a heartless coward. All this could be ended by him doing his job. Instead of facing Marois he hands her billions to go on torturing us. Trudeau, Chretien or Martin would have acted against bill 14 and her present abomination. Instead our prime Minister puts his head in the sand. Wait until a Fedral election comes along he will move then to get the vores. For now he figures he owes us nothing since we didn't vote for him or his party.. He will move when it's convenient to him. I blame Canada directly for our pain. We all elected Federal representatives to Ottawa who say and do nothing. If you have No one in Oattawa cares about a million suffering Canadians.here. Just mentioning that he might cut off equalization payments wouldmake Francophones sit up and ay attention even of Parois doesn't.
      I compare Stepjhen Harper to Stalin with his 'scorched Earth Policy/. Ed

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    8. Ed,

      The liberal Prime Ministers were cowards too. They could have intervened with the racist Bill 101 but did nothing at all to modify the law or eliminate it.

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    9. It's a very slippery slope on the federal side..
      The separatists do all this with the goal of getting that kind of reaction from the ROC, then they can twist that around and tell all the Québécois "Look, Canada does not share our values and they won't respect our choices"

      The Federal gov. is better off sitting back staying quiet while the PQ does whatever they want to do, to not play the separatists game. It's not like if Quebec brings much to the rest of the country anyways.

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    Really R.S. i can't believe you would post these ancient words from the old testament to decribe the Church today. Any Christian knows these words mean nothing. They were taken from the passage when Noah landed on Ararat and God gave his survivors a set of rules. None of this is Christianity. Christianity began when Jesus took over the power of Heaven and declared, "I am the way, the truth and the life only through me will you get into the Kingdom of Heaven. That is what Christian Churches today are based on. Having suffered the pain of the cross ordained by his Father the power became his. The only words of the old testament that Jesus follows are the ten commandments which any right thinking person would agree are necessarry to live together.
    Jesus made it clear that the way to Heaven is to follow the two great commandments, Love God and love Thy fellow man. Common sense tells us there was no Cjristianity before Jesus Christ arrived.
    This is the love that Churches teach today. The love of the Holy Spirit which Jesus left for all of us to enjoy seeing others happy. The same thing is happening with Islamists. My Islamist freinds are all lovely people who believe in the same things we do (Allah told Mohammed to study the teachings of Jesus Christ) but some have taken the worst from the Koran and used it to kill and maim and denigrate the name of religion as you are doing here. I'm disgusted and feel his is so beneath you. Why would you do it? Ed

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    1. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE FRANKFORTWednesday, September 11, 2013 at 9:38:00 PM EDT

      @ED
      You have no idea what you speak about. Islamists? You have Islamists friends, ED?
      This is the definition of who your "friends" are ED:

      Islamist: "a supporter or advocate of Islamic fundamentalism"
      http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Islamist
      Islamic fundamentalism is what al-Qaida groups relate to, ED. In what way are your terrorist, Christian hating friends "lovely people", Ed?
      Hamas is an Islamist group: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_fundamentalism#Hamas
      You have found another way to bring shame upon you, terrorist lover Ed.

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    2. Oh jesus, he meant ISLAMIC friends, not ISLAMIST friends.

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  31. 5 million FIVE MILLION DOGS ARE SLAUGHTERD EVERY YEAR IN NORTH AMERICA in GAS CHAMBERS thanks in great part to Quebec.
    The civilized human mind is not capable of understanding the literal body count of FIVE MILLION, A YEAR.
    Its like the Olympic stadium being filled to the brim with dead bodies every day.
    The civilized human mind cannot process the horror and suffering of being gassed to death.
    Do not deceive yourselves that these FIVE MILLION a year are humanely euthanized.
    The majority are thrown into bins and gassed to death, the pain is excruciating.
    Just google the videos it if you dare.
    Quebec as a major world player in puppy mills and animal trafficking is NOT MERELY responsible for the millions the tortured dogs and cats here in Quebec's with its HUNDRED THOUSAND PUPPY MILLS.
    QUEBEC is directly responsible for the FIVE MILLION dogs gassed to death EVERY YEAR in NORTH AMERICA.
    WAKE UP THE WORLD to the pure horror and EVIL that is QUEBEC.
    WAke UP WORLD to the evil that is CANADA.
    Where basic human rights, freedom of expression, religion, FREEDOM of CHOICE, have been eliminated to pacify the 2-3 million animal torturing psychopaths of Quebec.

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    2. Hi Anonymous - Sorry I can't fully read your posts because they are very disturbing and as an animal lover I can't bring myself to read such things. I also know quebec is the worst province in Canada for lax animal abuse laws. I would like to know though what makes you think that the PawsRUs puppy mill is up and running again and under what name? I know they were fined $10,000 dollars (at least that's what I read) and were not supposed to own animals again for a number of years. If I know they are in business again, I too will call the SPCA and report them personally. Thank you.

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    3. hi cutie
      they were up and running again almost immediately.Importing new dogs from the states to start over again.NEVER NEVER BUY DOGS FROM INTERNET OR PET SHOPS.KIJIJJI is the worst. Just scroll through dogs for sale. They are all milled.There is a petition going around to stop KIJIJI.
      There was a group formed of very dedicated volunteers who worked the three month long sheltering of the 600 and did follow up on their eventual placements. we were all very emotionally invested in these poor creatures..i will never forget the horrors. trying to teach them to WALK for the first time in their lives...to be just dogs again.
      The group is called FreedomDogs Unite and they have a facebook page and website. They and other groups do their best to monitor pawsrus but there is little to do when there is so much money and corruption involved. The SPCA knows. THAnks for your care anyway.

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    4. Hi - thanks for the info. I would never ever buy a dog over the internet or from a pet store; my last one I adopted because my vet (who is a friend) called and told me this 10 week old golden needed a home. So far, so good. He is six now and in great health to the best of my knowledge. Just brought him back from grooming about half an hour ago and he's such a sweetie. I will look up your group and pass the word about the work they do. Thank you so much for all you do on their behalf - our furry friends need us; that's for sure. Good luck and please keep your health in mind when you're doing this work - they need you. I admire anyone that can emotionally handle this sort of thing - I would never sleep again I'm afraid but I can assist with donations and passing the word around about adoptions. Try to remember that there are lots of people around like me also and I would never hurt a defenseless animal - ever and 99% of my friends are animal lovers.

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    5. Sorry - is there a petition to sign to get the animals off Kijijji? I will sign it if you can provide the info. Thank you.

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  32. Well done Pauline and her PQ followers, you are probably doing a great job reminding all new immigrants with an ethnic background that you are not "Quebecois" and never will be truly accepted in the Quebec civil service (and de facto as a member of society) unless you fully assimilate in language, dress and culture. I guess the PQ and separatists are not counting on the ethnic vote for a few decades to come.

    In reading various articles over the last few days, this will only reinforce the hold of white francophones to have something akin to 98% of all provincial and municipal govt jobs, though one assumes that cleaners and janitors maybe permitted to wear their headscarfs or turbans etc as they are not in a position of authority or leadership. Welcome to Quebec values as interpreted by the PQ.

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  33. it is absolutely incredible to me.
    The truly unique modern Canadian capacity for denial,ignorance, impotence,incapacity, cowardice..
    If the PQ banned chocolate, you would all be merrily debating the issue, the pros and cons of chocolate...Like it was really serious.
    Just like they want you to do.
    Meanwhile KEBEK exacts its reign of terror, destroying everything in its wake.
    50 years now of empirical evidence, of the sick destructive hate cult that is Kebek.
    Its absolute destruction of montreal.
    The billions and billions of dollars wasted protecting the sick hate cult that is KEBEK and funding their destruction of montreal.
    their unabashed torture and slaughter of animals
    their unabashed destruction of their own children..
    Meanwhile..dumb fuck CANADIANS debate about their banning chocolate.,,whatever distraction,,they mount
    Seriously, CANADA, why are a few million inbred psychopaths ruling our country while you opine about about absolutely nothing. DO NOTHING>>>
    WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH CANADA
    A KEBEK could never exist anywhere else in the free world.
    ONLY IN CANADA


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  34. Someone published a phone number on the Gazette to vote against the Charter of Quebec Values if anyone would like to vote: 514-790-1212 press 1 then 2 to vote against. Not sure if it works.

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  35. Did it ever occur to anyone that all the crap ..excuse my French..that the PQ has stirred up since getting elected is simply to sabotage Montreal? Think about it. These new laws they're trying to pass ..who else would be greatly affected by them but the minorities who live in great numbers in Montreal. I dare say...anyone would be rather hard pressed to find a hijab, kippah or tuban in chicoutimim or some other hick town in this province. I think it is intentional..to try and run this city into the ground so that maybe then...Quebec city can slide in line ahead of it? Think about it folks. Montreal has a hugely multicultural face and identity. I am quite sure that all the pur-laines consider the entire city just one big ghetto and it is, I am sure, the biggest thorn in the PQ thigh...that Montreal is soooo different, so diverse, it's a flavor they no longer savour and well...this is their..Final Solution. It's worth considering ..anyway.

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      This is all part of the post 1995 referendum strategy the PQ brain trust cooked up to sow division amongst Quebec and the ROC. This is their last chance before demographics pushes the separatist option out of reach. Paul Wells in Macleans has a good article on this.

      Here is an excerpt ,"one of the tactical tricks Jean-François Lisée cooked up during the long years before he entered electoral politics. In his 2000 book Sorti de secours, Lisée suggested the PQ cook up some scheme that would be rejected by the rest of the country, so Quebecers would feel insulted and want to secede."

      Article: http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/09/12/old-dogs-nous-tricks/

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    2. Nothing surprises me and I don't put anything past them, they r so diabolical. Thing is ....there r people wise to them so they aren't fooling anyone. How sad for them that they have to lie, cheat and steal ! So soooooooooooo...soooooo so..much to be proud of!,, what a weak People...no wonder they never get anywhere in Life, such a nuisance of a people. They shall never see their dream realized hungering for what they never had a chance to savor. That's Justice.

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    3. Speaking of stealing AnecTOTE one report on the Gazette says that municipal assessments have jumped liked 20% this year and one fellow was saying that his home is now evaluated at $500,000 been on the market for 6 months for $450,000 and he hasn't been able to sell. Everyone should be objecting to these assessments as it's only money for the coffers of the municipalities and the houses are way overvalued.

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    4. My dear Cutie it is a sad sad time. The whole language thing is one thing....and I wouldn't ever move away on that basis, frankly I don't give a rats aSS...yes I get worked up about the injustice of it...etc...but it isn't a problem for me, it doesn't get in my way to live my life and earn a living. Mostly if I am not wearing a name tag, they aren't the wiser, HOWEVER, unlike these losers, I have assets, like many people who have worked hard and contributed have and would like to protect, so I have to think of a plan B. if and when I do leave, I would not look back in rage or bitterness, I consider that it would be like, the house is on fire and to survive you leave, you feel bad it burns down, but there's insurance and life goes on. Lol.. And Life really does go on. I have lived my entire life here, I have travelled extensively, I wouldn't mind living somewhere else for a bit, most people do it, just as added adventure to a rich Life. So yeah Montreal is a fantastic city but so what....the world is full of fantastic cities, and I already don't live here full-time anyway. So I am thinking of various things, maybe sell the house, get a really small place just to still have something locally...I don't know, I reviewing the various options OR I may just stick around since I smell blood.... Lolol...so to speak lol. It is doubtful that a country such as Canada will allow this nonsense to continue. It is just not possible and CANADA does have a reputation to uphold, so there is that. We shall see what Act II brings forth lol

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    5. Yes AnceTOTE - many heavy decisions to make regarding our assets in this province. It's like betting on a long shot in the last race so to speak! I guess all of us have to do whatever we can to make our lives as happy as possible. I do hope not too many suffer much loss when they decide to leave this place behind and yes, pretend it burned down. In for the long haul right now and we have to hope that things get better quickly.

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    6. "In for the long haul right now and we have to hope that things get better quickly."

      Don't hold your breath peggy :)

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  36. This is so sad and it has been going on for a long, long time. I have a rescue from Quebec as do many people I know…

    They treat animals they way they treat just about everyone…like crap…anti – English language racism, bigotry, animal abuse, corruption…it is a cesspool of slime, and sleaze. It is the french way and has been for a very long time. Take, take, take…what a province…just sickening…

    And the police, the law makers, the politicians allow of this…and are part of the problem…what a mess Quebec is, a bloody mess.

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  37. Maria Mourani expulsée du caucus du Bloc québécois

    http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/Politique/2013/09/12/002-maria-mourani-expulsion-bloc-quebecois.shtml

    Dehors les...Traitres.

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    1. Hopefully now she can realize that after all her energy and efforts trying to help these idiots obtain their sad little goals, deep down they had nothing but disdain for her. She was never really invited to the Show. Hopefully too, she realizes what a bunch of losers she was hanging with this entire time and how at the first opportunity they reared their giant ugly head of intolerance and racism, even with her, even with someone who stole time away from herself and her family to give to them and their cause, they kicked her in the rear the second they had the chance.

      Welcome to the real world Maria, time for sleeping beauty to wake up. Smiles lol

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      Mourani was the Separatist's immigrant poster child. Immigrant separatists are already a rare and peculiar bunch. They are granted the privilege to live in Canada yet seek to partition and destroy it. A more ungrateful duplicitous bunch would be hard to find. When you sit down and grill them, they spout he same half truths and lies their Separatist masters do, complete with historical grievances that they have litte to no conection too. At least this will open up a spot at the Separatist kiddie table this Thanksgiving dinner next to Khadir and Kotto.

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    3. Of course Maria Mourani cannot support the Charter. The riding of Ahuntsic is filled with voters from ethnic communities. It is one thing about independence, it is another thing about ethnic and religious discrimination. Should she remained supportive of the Charter, her constituents would eat her alive, particularly considering she is an ethnic minority too.

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    4. I really hate the idea that the PQ are wrong for imposing their ideas and values on immigrants, including the primacy of French, etc... but that somehow immigrants that willingly CHOOSE to side with the PQ are doing anything else but exercising the rights and freedoms that you are purportedly fighting for! Talk about hypocrisy.

      It's one of the most obvious blind spots in the 'anglo/allo rights' movement, such as it is.

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    5. This lesson will do her good. She must now realize what useful idiot she was for all these years.


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    6. The PQ resorts to the power of the state to "facilitate" choices.

      We don't resort to any power when critiquing choices.

      When we are finally able to utilize the powers of L'Office Contre les Idiots Utiles, you can come back with these comparisons. But for now, all we can do is point certain things out.

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    7. And even if L'Office Contre des Idiots Utiles existed, I would be so against it, for two reasons.

      First, because I think people should make their own decisions and choices, even if I disagree with them.

      Second, poster people of political groups which obviously do not represent the interests of the communities to which the poster boys and girls belong, like black Republicans or ethic Quebec nationalists, are either victims of false consciousness, or opportunists who know exactly what's going on but do it anyways for personal benefit which can be quite lavish if political groups accused of prejudice are desperate for token members. So something like L'Office Contre des Idiots Utiles would be totally useless against these people. False consciousness cannot be cured by coercion, it can only go away after a long process of learning and experience. Similarly, opportunism cannot be cured with coercion either.

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    8. "I really hate the idea that the PQ are wrong for imposing their ideas and values on immigrants, including the primacy of French, etc... but that somehow immigrants that willingly CHOOSE to side with the PQ are doing anything else but exercising the rights and freedoms that you are purportedly fighting for! Talk about hypocrisy.

      It's one of the most obvious blind spots in the 'anglo/allo rights' movement, such as it is."

      What is deplorable and an act of treason really, is that Canada allows these people in and then they give Canada the finger. There is no blindspot in our Anglo/Allow community, we know exactly what we r dealing with, we don't consider the Maria's M's of the world to be remotely associated with what we r all about. Adski got it right...the lesson will do her good indeed. But if we take a moment and look at it for what it is, she was probably looking for an easy ride into a gov job, from the back door, and they were only too willing to let her in, obviously for their own hidden agenda. Now they can all look at themselves in the face with the disdain they feel, Then and Now. But WE feel vindicated by this, one more time the Seppies show themselves for the Bigots and Racists they are. Lol great day at the office.

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    9. I don't like the term "treason". In fact, we should all be in a treasonous state of mind, if treason means a critical stance towards the state, whether province-state or nation-state, in which we happen to reside at a given moment.

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  38. FROM ED
    I posted this already and don't know where it went. So I'm repeating it here.
    FROM ED
    Anonymous, you ask how can this happen? It's because we have a Prime Minioster who is a heartless coward. All this could be ended by him doing his job. Instead of facing Marois he hands her billions to go on torturing us. Trudeau, Chretien or Martin would have acted against bill 14 and her present abomination. Instead our prime Minister puts his head in the sand. Wait until a Fedral election comes along he will move then to get the vores. For now he figures he owes us nothing since we didn't vote for him or his party.. He will move when it's convenient to him. I blame Canada directly for our pain. We all elected Federal representatives to Ottawa who say and do nothing. If you have No one in Oattawa cares about a million suffering Canadians.here. Just mentioning that he might cut off equalization payments wouldmake Francophones sit up and ay attention even of Parois doesn't.
    I compare Stepjhen Harper to Stalin with his 'scorched Earth Policy/. Ed
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  39. How to permanently "fix" Quebec... (S.R can push the button)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjnm3V0xYjI

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  40. Just the start:
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2013/09/12/quebec-values-charter-ads-mcgill-lakeridge-oshawa-hospital.html

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    1. Belle propagande pro-islam enrobée de bonbons.

      Donc,cet hôpital serait prête à engager une personne avec un mohawk,un punk ?

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    2. Oh god, more doctor leaving this province. God those separatist will only be happy until all doctor have left this province.

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    3. My dear Liam they could care less. What they give a crap about is a tool that helps them shop and support FRENCH.."boxes" lol...nitwits..n'est ce pas?

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  41. The author think Quebecois are suffered from superiority complex, I think it's reversed. They are underdogs in all games. They lost all the wars. They produce no Nobel laureates. Their greatest invention are poutine and Celine Dion. Their best architecture is the Big Owe. They speak some language even their French brother don't understand. They live off Canada money, and many more, you name it. Logically, they will try to show they are more cultured, more environmentally friendly, socially responsible,.. blah blah blah. Without these BS, how can they survive from inferiority complex?

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    1. Et sont incapables de se trouver un pseudo lorsqu'ils écrivent sur un blogue.

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  42. http://www.thestar.com/opinion/commentary/2013/09/12/pauline_marois_issues_fatwa_on_quebec_secularism_siddiqui.html

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    1. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/pq-presses-private-sector-to-follow-its-lead-on-secular-workplaces/article14268573/comments/

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  43. J’achète en français!

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?hl=fr&id=com.hiddenbrains.postfeedback

    Très bonne idée

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  44. http://www.torontosun.com/2013/09/11/pqs-tower-of-babble

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    1. Good for Pauline.

      She is simply doing what the rest of the country wishes someone had the b alls to do.
      Why is it that special interest groups and specifically the cult, feel they have the right to be "special" while in public/public institutions?

      Why do they feel they should be able to proclaim they are "different" from the rest of the citizens? Why do they feel they are superior and we are below them? What is wrong with everyone being equal and proclaiming that there is no "special" groups in the taxpayer funded jobs?

      They came here to be equal. Get with the program or move somewhere else where "your" program is welcomed.

      proud shirk

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  45. The PQ are spending 1.9 Million Dollars on advertising for their "charter of values", an amount which they compare to what was spent on promotion for "Le Plan Nord".

    http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/politique/politique-quebecoise/201309/12/01-4688830-laicite-un-budget-de-promotion-comparable-au-plan-nord.php

    Nice to see PQ priorities. How many jobs lost in Quebec this year alone again?

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  46. When will the Insanity end?
    I'm in the twilight zone, no Exit sign in sight.

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  47. Bowser and Blue's views on immigration :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiSv26OFQl4

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