Tuesday, May 7, 2013

Quebec's Biggest Language Issue.....Climate of Hate and Fear

After the notorious Pastagate kerfuffle and the painful and humiliating fallout that resulted from the widespread coverage of a story that had readers across the world snickering at the unbelievable stupidity of a government gone wild, it fell to Quebec's delegate-general in New York, Andre Boisclair to offer up some sort of defense, an effort that probably did more harm than good.
"It is absurd to claim that Québec is “at war” against English. The Québec nation promotes inclusiveness and is renowned worldwide for its creativity and economic vitality. Quebecers of all origins are proud of their unique identity. We cordially invite you to visit and see for yourself." Read the whole letter to TIME Magazine
Sorry Mr. Boisclair, to pretend that Quebec is not at war against the English is a notion that only a disinformationist could or would dare advance.

Now most mainstream francophones are people of good heart, who no doubt want to preserve their language and culture while acknowledging the contribution of Anglophones to the province and respecting their right to cohabitate in a climate of mutual respect
There really shouldn't be a conflict in that, somewhere along the line there must be a meeting of open minds where Anglophones respect the particular dilemma that francophones face in regards to preserving their language, while francophones accept and embrace English as not only a reality, but a welcome addition to Quebec.
Bill 101 was the law conceived by the separatist PQ government, thirty-five years ago, meant to address the language issue once and for all, where affording francophones the right to exist and flourish in a French milieu was the ultimate but not sole consideration.      
Unfortunately the other consideration was the very deliberate launching of an all out war on the English language and the Anglophone community with an eye to creating linguistic conflict whereby Anglos and francophones would be convinced that the language issue was a zero-sum game, where one side must lose for the other to win.

Now before readers get all hot and bothered at this assertion, understand that the author of Bill 101, the infamous Camille Laurin made no bones about this fact, the law was never meant to preserve and promote the French language exclusively, but also meant to create a climate conducive to sovereignty.
And so clause after clause of unconstitutional nonsense was inserted solely for the purpose of creating judicial strife whereby the 'francophone' side would suffer overwhelming and humiliating defeats in the courts, hopefully sparking enough rage to influence them to support sovereignty.

Rene Levesque himself was quite uncomfortable with the clearly hateful and illegal elements of Bill 101, but was overwhelmed by the party faithful who demanded that the punitive and illegal aspects of the law be preserved and enacted in order to send a signal to the English community that the rules had changed and that the not-so-meek Francophone majority had finally, 'inherited the Earth.'

The law enunciated a concept best described by paraphrasing George Orwell's 'Animal Farm;'
"All anglophones are enemies, all francophones are comrades"

Today, that PQ policy of enmity towards English first heralded 35 years ago has not only remained steadfast, but is now the focus of a renewed effort by the separatist government to embolden it's punitive provisions, an effort to re-ignite and fan the simmering embers of linguistic conflict into a roaring fire.
These new provisions are in no way meant to raise the stature of French across Quebec, they are meant only to stir up more conflict leading to Francophone and English confrontation .

In reality we have two Bill 101s, the one that francophones view as an instrument for the preservation of their French language culture and the anglophone version which is the view that it is an instrument of the destruction and ruin of their community and culture.

In fact, both communities are right, because that is exactly what Bill 101 is.

The very success of the law is that it has accomplished exactly what the PQ set out to do, preserve and promote French, discourage and obstruct English and most importantly create a climate of mistrust, fear and loathing, between the communities, a necessary prerequisite to a successful referendum.

In supporting this thesis, I've often been asked as to which provisions of Bill 101 or regulations are discriminatory, meant solely to attack English and Anglophones in an effort to trigger the fight or flight reaction. Unfortunately, too many Anglos have chosen to flee rather than fight, but that is for another post.

The requirement that the French text be larger than the English text in public commercial signage.
This  rule is purely vindictive, plain and simple. It is conceived under the maxim of "Out of sight, out of mind" and its intention is to make English as invisible as possible, creating the fiction that English and Anglos are unimportant or nonexistent.
I wonder how Quebec francophones would react to the situation where Prime Minister Harper enacted a similar law that forced English to be larger than any other language on commercial signage based on the fact that Canada is three-quarters English.
How would merchants react in overwhelmingly French cities and towns across Quebec in being told that their signs were illegal because English was either absent or not prominent enough.
Ridiculous?
This is the situation in English Quebec towns like Montreal West where 80% of its townsfolk are English and who are told that pertaining to commercial signage, their language must remain inferior.

The rule is expressly meant to be cruel and humiliating and when French language militants tells us it is a question of respect, they really mean it is a projection of power.

The attempt to get stores with English banners to modify their names.
Another nonsensical attempt to project dominance. Nothing else.
Of all the attempts to humiliate English, none is so nakedly obvious and so patently stupid. Not one French language militant will ever propose that modifiers are required for informational purposes so that consumers don't show up to Toys R Us attempting to buy power tools or Home Depot to buy toys.
Is the next logical step the requirement for English and Ethnic citizens to change their names to a French version to show 'respect' to the majority?  Reductio ad absurdum,  I'm not so sure....

Forcing English people to attend French schools
Under Bill 101, a family immigrating to Quebec from Australia or Jamaica, who speak only English, must send their children to French school, even though English schools are readily available.
Do militants believe for one moment that going to French school will transform the children into francophones?
It is clearly a case of linguistic cruelty and vindictiveness, nothing else.

OQLF Inspectors
Nothing is as frightening to a small merchant, in a small store as is being pounced upon without notice by a humourless jack-booted French language bully who swoops down upon the hapless merchant looking for trouble with a camera and notebook, gung-ho to intimidate and humiliate.

Let us remember that the big boys get waivers, the little merchants, the shit end of the stick.

You might remember the list I published a few days ago with all the companies that were given a waiver so as to operate in English?
Well, the list is more telling by whom and what businesses are not on the list.

How about the Montreal Canadians, who clearly haven't been given a waiver and who clearly operate 100% in English.
How about all those video game companies in Montreal who all operate in English without the benefit of waivers?
Why are they given a pass while a small bake shop in the West Island is not?
The answer is clearly about intimidation and nothing else. Frightening small merchants is part and parcel of the intimidation game.

I could go on and on, but I wish francophones of good heart to understand that all this is a gambit meant to create an atmosphere of fear and intimidation, in no way an attempt to  advance the French language situation. It is nothing more than a cynical strategy by a government which wishes to achieve sovereignty by advancing a climate of hate through language conflict.

While Andre Boisclair claims how good the Anglos have it here in Quebec, he never addresses the politics of hate and the climate of fear.

All day long Quebecers are inundated with hysterical cries of impending gloom and doom in the media by French language militants and politicians who are really just promoting their separatist agenda by whipping up a climate of fear.
It is a credit to most francophones that they remain steadfast in resisting and resolute in their determination to make up their own minds on the issues of language.
Quebec francophones are by nature mistrusting of authority, perhaps a result of generations of real domination and so, are much less likely to be influenced by manipulative politicians and language fanatics who attempt to frighten them about language and the utility of English.
Good on them....

Unlike other places in the world, where linguistic, religious or ethnic hate is easy to brew up, (Hungary is just the latest victim to succumb), the dogged determination of francophones to resist demagoguery and make up their own minds frustrates those with a separatist agenda, forcing them to ramp up the rhetoric of hate.

But the ongoing climate of hate does have an impact over the long term, Quebec has become angry and polarized.

And so Anglos feel threatened by the francophone majority and francophones feel threatened by anglophone minority.
It is surreal because it need not be that way.
In fact without interference, we get along famously. We live together, work together, shop together, play together, party together and even marry and procreate together.

This morning I went to change my winter tires and spoke to the clerk in my semi-perfect French only to be answered in his semi-perfect English. We both persisted.
The same goes for the repairman who came to my house the other day to fix our dryer.
Both the clerk, the repairman and myself determined to demonstrate our linguistic prowess.

French language militants would call these people colonized, that is of course, the politics of hate.
Myself, I call these people empowered, master of their own skills, oblivious to the insults of the ignorant.

If leaders preached the politics of cooperation instead of the politics of fear we would all surely be  better off.

195 comments:

  1. Demographics determines everything. Anglos can fume all they want about Quebec's language legislation, but at the end of the day, they are a tiny proportion of Quebec's population. Even in Montreal where their numbers are concentrated, they aren't really a major influence. The fact is, pro-French language policies enjoy broad support from Quebec's majority Francophone populace. Why should the National Assembly care if Quebec's Anglos are a politically irrelevant force?

    Editor said: “This is the situation in English Quebec towns like Montreal West where 80% of its townsfolk are English and who are told that pertaining to commercial signage, their language must remain inferior.”
    One of the reasons why even though I am one, I don't like Quebec Anglos. What kind of people lets themselves be linguistically marginalized in towns where they make up the majority? Certainly not one deserving much respect.
    There is a strong contrast with the political impotence of Quebec Anglos and the success of linguistic minorities in Europe. The Galicians and Catalans in Spain, Highland Scots in Britain and Bretons in France have all been able to win rights for their local languages. Meanwhile, Quebec Anglos keep their heads down and try not to rock the boat. A shameful group.

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    1. I agree, it seems impossible to get the to do anything to fight for themselves. a bunch of wimps the lot of them

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    2. The provincial government shouldn't be involve in municipal affairs. If the government of Ontario, removed Ottawa bilingual status this would be undemocratic. The Province needs to respect local will, or else it is removing local representations. This is the importance of municipalities. Allowing the population to have a say in towns operation, or else why have City Halls.

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    3. Cecil Haverford writes:

      "A shameful group."

      Sadly, yes.

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  2. My comment that is totally not related with the topic: I think Quebecers will have one more reason to hate Ottawa.

    The Senators will end the Canadiens season this Thursday.

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    1. Habs fan whining about loss
      http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Letter+Game+gift+from+Ottawa/8354301/story.html
      Like all Quebecers, Habs prefer to whine and blame anglos for their problem.

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    2. Liam,

      The name of the writer of that letter does not sound francophone.

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  3. Editor, you write "the dogged determination of francophones to resist demagoguery and make up their own minds frustrates those with a separatist agenda, forcing them to ramp up the rhetoric of hate."

    The trouble is, they keep getting elected. It ebbs then it tides, and the way I see it, there is no end in sight...unless we cut Quebec off at the knees, starting with those completely undeserved equalization payments. Let Quebec see what life would be like without an extra almost $10 billion a year. How would Quebec make up the gap on thatÉ

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    1. Editor, you also wrote: "Unfortunately, too many Anglos have chosen to flee rather than fight, but that is for another post."

      Did you honestly think I was going to let this go unanswered? So when is this post going to appear? How about your next post? Didn't Howard Galganov stay and fight? He toted that banner pretty high, and while the rebuttals from the French media was fully to be expected, the rebuttals from the English media were worse.

      Anyone who thinks he got well-paid for the morning radio show he had, think again. He sacrificed his business for the radio show, i.e., he could have made more tending to his business than the radio show, but he did it anyway, promoted various charities, and still held several rallies. In the end, it was for naught, so he finally packed up stakes and moved an hour away over the border to Ontario. This way he can come to Montreal to see his doctors, visit friends, conduct business, etc., but not pay Quebec taxes. He came along almost 20 years too late as nobody BUT NOBODY toted the banner higher than Galganov did before or since.

      My story? I saw my parents' complacency, admitting they were sitting ducks no matter what the Quebec government did, and their contemporaries did much the same. I figured with all this complacency, what's the point? I had to start an independent life, I didn't see career opportunities in Quebec, or I'd have to fight much harder to succeed whereas there are more peaceful, stable climes where my only fight is to compete with others for a good job; besides, the job market in Ontario compared to Quebec was much more positive. Too, I should pay THEIR high taxes for the privilege of fighting for every inch for the privilege to live my life in English? Faggedaboudit!

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    2. "....there is no end in sight...unless we cut Quebec off at the knees, starting with those completely undeserved equalization payments. Let Quebec see what life would be like without an extra almost $10 billion a year...."

      Yes by all means...serve Quebec some Tough Love...problem is...up to now, there hasn't been anyone in Ottawa with guts enough to execute, and I don't see it happening, unless....the ROC stirs up such a raucous over it,..that it forces Ottawa to act. It is incredible what those in power will do when there are riots outside their doors....they cave. But...I don't see that happening. There is a 'silent majority' in the ROC too.

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  4. According to these French language militants, the world was created in 1977, and has slowly been anglicising more and more, and english montrealers are demanding that english be given status as a superiour language and that english be forced down the throats of french canadians.

    The truth is the exact opposite, Bill 101 was created to assimilate the english population, and that it has done. All that's left of our past in Montreal are ourselves (our numbers getting smaller and smaller every census), our memories, and the city we built, the credit for building it stripped from us.


    Here are some things I think Quebec should do to warm this climate of hate and fear...

    1 Integrated, bilingual schooling. Mandatory bilingual education with classes in both English and French. French Canadians, anglos and allos sharing classrooms and growing up together as equals. Both languages are essential in Quebec, and both languages need to be taught to both communities. If other provinces do it first, it will be easier to get it done in Quebec.

    2 Make the province officially bilingual (like New Brunswick), or no official language and de facto bilingual (like Manitoba).

    3 More immigration. Quebec needs to make Montreal Canada's immigrant capital again like it was before Toronto took its place. The provincial government should invest money in promoting the province overseas.

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    1. "3 More immigration. .... The provincial government should invest money in promoting the province overseas."

      It does, with more than half a dozen offices around the world:
      http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/reach/adresses-continent.html

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      Unfortunately the half dozen offices are in poverty sticken countries where low intelligents speak French.
      Also groups that have tried to unite Anglos are mainly unpublicized. Asking people to sign up to a party or sign a petition is only good if people know about it. Announcements on blogs like these are not enough. We need the mainstream media and that seems reluctant to get involved. Ed

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    3. Other provinces give parents a choice on their childrens education. Quebec is the only place that gives no option and segregates children based on language.

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    4. @ed

      "..poverty sticken countries where low intelligents speak French."

      racist. your comment should be removed.

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    5. No it should be kept from the "Canadian human rights tribunal".

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    6. Exactly. Keep all comments.

      Investigating discussions on the internet creates much needed jobs in Quebec. Don;t you know the "knowledge economy" is replacing the old economy of making things like potato chips.

      Bureaucracies like OLQF don;t create themselves.

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    7. Ed writes:

      "Unfortunately the half dozen offices (of the Quebec Government) are in poverty sticken countries where low intelligents speak French."

      Interesting comment. Let's examine it.

      When one goes to the link supplied by ConfusedInQuebec -- to which Ed was referring -- one can see, by continent, where the Quebec offices are. Well, the "countries where low intelligents speak French" other than France, Belgium, and Switzerland could possibly be are the countries in Africa where, of about 44 countries, more than half have French as an official language.

      Africa is home to the Negro race. Is this the location of Ed's "countries where low intelligents speak French"? I cannot come to any other conclusion. If there is another one, perhaps someone can show me.

      Recalling Ed's previous posts -- many of them, in fact -- in which he deems to assign certain characteristics to the Jewish race, I cannot help thinking that this is, once again, an example of Ed spewing his racist garbage.

      And, no, this cannot be explained away (as others did in the past in attempting to defend Ed's previous racist rantings) an example of an elderly gentleman using terms and phrases of a bygone era that he can't help using.

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    8. And I think that, despite the odd bigoted comment, Ed's anecdotes are one of my favorite comments on here, and that you two should stop this childish flame war you have going on between the two of you.

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    9. Yannick:

      "the odd bigoted comment"? It's become de rigeur with Ed.

      When he came out with his first anti-Jewish generality and it was pointed out to him, the reasonable thing for him to have done was apologise and make a point not to say it again. Instead, he doubled down and repeated the smear and attempted to justify it.

      No, I think there is a pattern here and I for one will call the Old Fart on it each and every time he transgresses. And I don't use the term "Old Fart" in the figurative sense.

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  5. "3 More immigration. Quebec needs to make Montreal Canada's immigrant capital again like it was before Toronto took its place."

    Why?

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    1. Hi student. We know it's you even if you change your screen name.

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    2. Obviously, not student, as he writes in complete sentences, knows how to use the shift key, and there is not a "dude" or "mate" anywhere in his posts.

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  6. Editor, you wrote "Now most mainstream francophones are people of good heart, who no doubt want to preserve their language and culture while acknowledging the contribution of Anglophones to the province and respecting their right to cohabitate in a climate of mutual respect."

    Over the past 36 years, how often have Quebecois citizens, businesses or associations publicly denounced each additional restriction imposed on the anglo minority by successive provincial governments (PQ and Liberal)?

    Truth is, most Quebecois are indifferent to increasing restrictions of our rights and our dwindling numbers - they see it as a victory of sorts, payback if you will.

    Many believe that for every anglo person or business that leaves, a new job or business opportunity is created for a francophone (providing an imaginary transfer of wealth and status).

    Even our community of anglos, it would appear, are not particularly concerned about their future.

    Since February, a petition has been available online at
    "https://www.assnat.qc.ca/en/exprimez-votre-opinion/petition/Petition-3559/index.html"
    asking members of the National Assembly to reject Bill 14. It doesn't require much effort to sign the petition. Yet, to date, less than 38,000 signatures have been submitted (slightly less than the entire population of Cote Saint Luc and Hampstead combined).

    38,000 signatures won't save our community - half an million would be more convincing.

    However, without active support from the Quebecois majority and future Quebec governments with the political will to pass laws that fairly balance the concerns of both language groups, the anglo community will eventually dwindle into obscurity.

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    1. For sure - it's a war of federalist vs separatist options but the federalist francophones, not being affected by the bigoted language laws and being somewhat in favour of them, say nothing and we federalists desperately need their support in order to challenge the separatists. This is a well thought out plan by the separatists - they need to get rid of us because of our "no" votes but yet make the francophones feel this is not their war. If the federalist francophones could just see through this, they would be on our side, but I'm afraid it's going to take some kind of violent incidence(s) to make them realize just how this is being played out. Sitting with a francophone friend yesterday and when I asked her if she read Bill 14 she said she heard a bit about it but didn't know any of the details. This lady is a staunch federalist but Bill 14 does not affect her personally so what does it matter? Sad but true - how do we mobilize the francophone federalist population outside of a referendum? That is the huge problem. Trying to get our own anglophone population to do anything is another problem but, as is proven on this site, few are willing to take any action whatsoever. There are exceptions but they should be the rule rather than the exception - not so in our community.

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    2. Two Cents Worth, above, supplies a link to an online petition demanding the rejection of Bill 14.

      I really wanted to sign that petition. But I could not and cannot.

      Why?

      Because of the first line in the petition which reads:

      "CONSIDERING THAT the French language in Québec needs to be protected and that the officials elected by the general public are to protect the rights of all citizens of Québec regardless of linguistic, ethnic or socio-economic status;"

      Once one accepts that "the French language in Quebec needs to be protected", the door is open -- wide! -- to accepting government doing that protecting. My contention is that it is not the purview of government to protect language. Indeed, it is, I believe, illegal to do so by virtue of Quebec's own Charter of Human Rights and Freedoms which lists "language" as a prohibited base of discrimination. And "discrimination", according to the Charter's section 10, includes not only an "exclusion" but a "preference".

      Legislation that promotes one or more languages is most certainly a "preference".

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    3. "Truth is, most Quebecois are indifferent to increasing restrictions of our rights and our dwindling numbers - they see it as a victory of sorts, payback if you will."

      Yes, I think that would be the 'silent majority"?

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  7. Not just Time, but CNN and the BBC have recently had stories on their front pages.

    CNN: 11 things to know before visiting Quebec
    BBC: Rebelling against Quebec's 'language police'

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    1. Glad to see this happening. Cutie and Ed have written many letters to CNN and I wrote one as well, and gotten a message acknowledging they received it. Maybe they've been reading the letters of the readers of this blog. The BBC, I'm not sure about. I'm glad that two of the largest news broadcasters in their respective countries are giving these issues publicity. This is very good news.

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    2. Spoke too soon. Read through the comments, and the Americans are on their side.

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    3. Most are only tourists that are treated differently when visiting rather than living through this disaster. Don't worry, as more incidents like last night's beating for speaking English occur, word will soon get out that it's not safe to visit any longer. The ones supporting the language laws in the comments section are our usual separatists that haunt the web with their "rhetoric" about anglos being the best treated minority in the world blah blah conveniently forgetting that they themselves are the "best treated minority in the whole world" and then some - letting them make their own laws, promoting hate and dissension living amongst peaceful people, threatening people with fines and physical violence if not speaking the language of the majority, removing the rights and freedoms from individuals to make laws to support majorities, shall I go on? The Americans do not realize the scope of the problem and are only saying what happened when they came to visit quebec.

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  8. LordDorchester

    Demographics is destiny. Les Québécois aren't procreating as much as they used to even with all the taxpayer funded benefits we entice them with. I believe we've reached the high water mark population wise for them historically. The party is over. The handpicked French speaking immigrants that are coming to Quebec from places like Haiti and Maghreb don't have the same anti-English chip on their shoulders that les Québécois do and are attached to Canada by in large. The anti-English indoctrination that is supposed to occur in the French school system isn't taking hold with ethnic kids as it was designed to do (hence the drive to get them to go to French CEGEPs and University now). Once their numbers start to spiral downwards things will gravitate towards normalcy again, language laws and restrictions will be voted out democratically and maybe perhaps, Montreal can steal back some of its lost thunder and instead of division, both communities will work at building Quebec up again.

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  9. "acknowledging the contribution of Anglophones to the province and respecting their right to cohabitate in a climate of mutual respect"

    Si les Anglos ont contribué au Québec, c'est parce qu'après la Conquête ils ont volé ce qui appartenait au Québécois.

    S'il y a du respect de la part des Anglos, c'est parce que les Francos ont pris le pouvoir. Parce qu'avant, soit pendant 200 ans, c'était le mépris qu'ils récoltaient. Et ce mépris a commencé à réapparaître au centre-ville de Montréal à partir de 2004. Mais depuis l'élection du Parti Québécois, il est pratiquement disparu.

    La morale de cette histoire : on vous écrase ou sinon c'est vous qui nous écrasez. Et comme la présence au Québec d'une communauté anglaise ne repose sur aucune légitimité...

    "Bill 101 [...] is an instrument of the destruction and ruin of [anglo] community and culture."

    Pis après? Qu'est-ce que ça changerait à la diversité culturelle du monde si la "communauté" anglo disparaissait? Même si le peuple canadien-anglais disparaissait en entier, cela ne changerait rien à la diversité culturelle du monde, car il n'est que la pâle copie d'un autre peuple.

    "The requirement that the French text be larger than the English text in public commercial signage. This rule is purely vindictive, plain and simple."

    Cette règle a été édictée par votre Cour suprême.

    "Forcing English people [from Australia or Jamaica] to attend French schools."

    On ne les force pas à venir au Québec. S'ils veulent fréquenter l'école anglaise, ils peuvent aller vivre dans les neuf autres provinces, aux États-Unis ou en Grande-Bretagne.


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    1. Again Y.L. provincial government shouldn't be in the process of regulating languages. This is a commercial decision and doesn't involve the government.

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    2. So, it's the French who have original claim to the QC territory over the Native People? Interesting....

      @YL: I've taken the liberty to modify your statement for ironic impact.

      Pis après? Qu'est-ce que ça changerait à la diversité culturelle du monde si la "communauté" franco Quebecois disparaissait? Même si le peuple canadien-francais disparaissait en entier, cela ne changerait rien à la diversité culturelle du monde, car il n'est que la pâle copie d'un autre peuple.

      Goose meet gander.

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    3. La culture francophone,surtout en amérique,est beaucoup plus rare de ce fait,plus précieuse.

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    4. You see SR, if you had said the French language instead of "la culture francophone", I might have agreed with you.

      If you take away the French language, Quebecois are no different or more "precieuse" than the people of Newfoundland or the Maritimes, or the Prairies, or the northern Cree or, even, QC anglos. Each has a "culture" that's different in it's own way. The problem with separatists is that, for them, English is English is English. A QC anglo is the same as a BC anglo, or a Toronto anglo, or even an American anglo, and each is considered interchangeable. As such, who cares about 550,000 anglos in QC when you have 350 million just like them surrounding QC.

      It may be hard to believe but QC anglos are, and should be, just as precious as franco Quebecois. The propaganda about us not learning French is so ridiculous given the actual stats. Our children have all been in French immersion since kindergarden and graduate high school bilingual. Just this morning, I had 2 sales reps come to see me and we spent 15 mins conversing entirely in French until we realized we were actually all anglos...lol. This is, I believe, the reality of most QC anglos today.

      There's no question that we're pretty much all federalists and will never support sovereignty but that doesn't mean we don't support the promotion of French and the protection of QC "culture". Unfortunately, petty, vindictive proposals like Bill 14 simply poison the atmosphere and create an innecessary chasm between the two linguistic groups. A more positive, inclusive approach would have a higher probability of having the QC anglo community as partners in helping to preserve French.

      As for QC sovereignty, no thanks. :)



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    5. S.R.: "La culture francophone,surtout en amérique,est beaucoup plus rare de ce fait,plus précieuse"

      You're talking from your position, so you have no objectivity. Anglo culture in Quebec, is rarer, and thus more precious.

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    6. The EDITOR needs to stop deleting posts from the crazies so we can get a good history of posts and turn them into the "Canadian human rights tribunal".

      http://www.chrt-tcdp.gc.ca/NS/index-eng.asp

      It's the perfect place to file a complaint against YL and SR etc.

      A pseudo court system that will investigate and harass them for their online hatred they post.

      The human right s people investigate the woman din toronto that wants her hair cut at a barbershop.

      YL and SR are the real thing that the http://www.chrt-tcdp.gc.ca/NS/index-eng.asp should be protecting citizens from.

      Cutie are you game?

      The blog is great evidence to get a prosecution, fine apology etc from these nut jobs. We just need the EDITOR to stop helping the seppies and deleting the evidence.



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    7. Yep Cebeuq - they are not allowed to discriminate against us because of our nationalism (for Canada) nor our ethnicity (as anglophones with a common language) so that's a good idea. Besides our resident trolls I would love to go after IF and Vigile.net for hate-mongering against the anglophones. Imagine today I received an e-mail telling me that Heritage Canada and another Canadian Institution (which I will get the name of and post) had the absolute nerve to turn down funding to IF for the St. Jean de Baptiste Day festivities - imagine how shocked I was! The damn nerve of these people is beyond anyone's comprehension! Asking Canada for money to promote the breakup of the country - Christ - I thought I had nerve! Truly, I want to find out if anyone has laid complaints against these organizations. Will see what I can find out. If an anglophone showed up at one of those events with a Canadian Flag they would probably be beaten senseless. What a farce!

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    8. I've already advocated for this.

      I used to want Y.L and S.R banned, now I welcome their hate-filled calls to action because they serve as evidence.

      Editor, please leave these posts up as it is true that what is written is indictable if reasonable doubt is brought into play.

      Personally, I'm starting to lose hope as the more inane comments made by the clones are being kept up while the Editor is deleting tersely-worded (but justified) responses from his own allies.

      ...hence another reason Quebec is just flat out fucked.

      Everyone seems to think they're doing the right thing (be they seps or feds) while refusing to face the obvious solution.

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    9. EDITOR should not be removing any posts in my opinion.

      Saves him time and it's pointless to try to police the internet in an anonymous commenting forum.

      It's like a seppie wishing montreal english.

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    10. "The human right s people investigate the woman din toronto that wants her hair cut at a barbershop. "

      Uh?

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    11. Should tweets/comments saying that Marois should have been shot or those comparing her to Hiltler be reported?

      I would report a racist tweet I saw today :
      "Buy him a one-way ticket back to Hungary. He does not deserve to be in Canada."

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    12. Yes absolutely. 30% of Quebec support Marois and her ramping up the conflict between english and french.

      We should oblige her right?

      The more cross complaints french and english launch at each other the healthier Quebec society will be of course.

      Nothing helps make a civil society like ramping up ethnic tension.

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  10. Québec: un immigrant sur 5 ne parle pas français

    http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/national/201305/08/01-4648778-quebec-un-immigrant-sur-5-ne-parle-pas-francais.php

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    1. OMG!! Why are the Language Police not rounding up these non-compliant immigrants and dumping them at the Ontario border? The PQ better had a summary deportation clause to Bill 14.

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    2. Actually, if 80% immigrants can speak in French in QC that's a very good figure - far better than in the past and demonstrative that French is not in imminent danger, far from it, French has never been more secure in the last 100 years or more. So why the need for further anti-English legislation such as Bill 14?

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  11. FROM ED
    The only way to handle language police is to take their picture and mount it on the blog. They feel safe and successful working in obscurity. They will feel different when their faces atsrt to show in public.
    When EDITOR mentions those that fled Quebec he neglects to mention that most of these had to follow their jobs in the companies that decided to go. If you had ten or fifteen years seniority invested along with a pension you paid into for all those years, you had no choice.
    There were others who had a choice and went looking for greener pastures. This is why Mr. Sauga takes it personaly when fleeing is mentioned. Blaming Howard Galganov's failure and us for not supporting him (Galgaov) is not fair. Most of us were busy trying to work to raise our families and had no time for politics. We lived as the English always have done, bearing the hardships and being honest and voting Liberal.
    This brings us to a more important point; how to get out of it. The only thing workable that any normal person can see simply is to elect the party that has spoken out for the English people of Quebec. Dr. Couillard is the party leader who says his party will work for the Anglos. So how do we get him in office?
    What put the party Quebecois in office was the CAQ splitting votes and this they did with help from Anglos who denounced (with no reason or proof) the Libs as being corrupt..
    Those like Complicated and Mr. Sauga who swore up and down that our benefactors were ruthless put the CAQ in a position to win seats. The job now is, first to clean up the Liberals reputation by pointing out that there has been no proof anywhere to support these lies, second to force an election.
    Instead of denouncing Liberals let's point out what hurts both sides and end our posts or letters with a call for an election.
    If we can get some Francos to pick up on it in the Francophone press it will burgeon quickly. The majority of Qubecers are fed up. I it gets loud enough Pauline will have no choice but to give in. Try it. Ed

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    1. Nobody really wants Marois as premiere. Most francophones don't like her. It's the PQ loyals that voted her in, and the vote splitting caused by the CAQ happened to do more damage to the Liberals than the PQ. If the CAQ weren't pretending they were a federalist party out of desperation, we'd probably still have Mr Charest as premier.

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  12. It's a great post, Editor.

    You and I focus on many of the same elements of 101 as discriminatory.

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  13. Not only are the liberals corrupt like all parties in Quebec but they have supported all the anti-English language laws over the years and have even brought some in themselves. So if you think for one minute that voting liberal will protect the English language and history in Quebec, you are and probably have been part of the problem for decades. Galganov was one of many he spoke the truth and sadly so many of us have left…and we will not return until bill 101 is repealed and we are given back our equal rights.

    I don’t see this happening sadly. When Canadians finally wake up to the fact that Quebec is bankrupting the whole nation through equalization payments, subsidizing hydro Quebec…and all sorts of other scams…then maybe things will change. Many of us know what’s going on its just a matter of spreading the word far and wide. Enjoy the clip below. Another example of one of the many scams coming out of Quebec and Ottawa.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhPcV0gtFR0



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    Fortunately, no one pays attention to those who are afraid to identify themselves. We can only surmise that 'anonymous' is a separatist troll. Ed

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  15. Wow.

    Quite an Editorial by the Editor.

    I have quite often described Bill 101 here on this blog as a "race law/hate law." At least for the latter part of this description, I cannot see how the Editor would disagree with me.

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  16. BTW - Trudeau outpolling NDP and Bloc alike in the last couple of polls in Quebec. For those interested.

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  17. Ed - please provide the link wherein Dr. Couillard will work for the anglos. Have heard him say nothing of the kind and be angry if you like but that's the truth.

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    1. http://www.ledevoir.com/politique/quebec/376948/l-equality-party-de-philippe-couillard

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    2. The following comment seems to sum up what is and is not true about Couillard:

      Not to defend Couillard ...
      ... but rather to defend intellectual honesty. This is George Bush saying: "If you're not for me, so is that you are against me." It is not my intention to defend Couillard, but your ticket and the following comments follow exactly the same pattern as the techniques of nice Tea Party and other extremist Republicans say Obama doing things he did not say, and fun to create a "monster" invented on inflated or made ​​entirely absent, so that the masses can the Republican hair more easily. And they believe their lies, since, through repetition, they deviennnet "truth." Much like the telephone game, every action the character and his actions become increasingly far from reality, but oh combines more easy to use to prove his point. Your ticket proves this point with partial quotes, conclusions shorted, and statements with a punch, even speaking of "truth." Well. But I admit that it's a nice effect.
      Wish the above wasn't true, but to me it is fact because Dr. Couillard did not make any point of defending the anglophones clear, in my opinion.
      Thanks for the link Liam.

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    3. It's fascinating how on here people lambast the Liberals for not doing enough for Anglophones, and on ledevoir the commenters are lambasting the Liberals for being an Anglo party.

      Un dialogue de sourds, for sure.

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  18. Again, I point out that partition is the only way forward. Quebec is too vast to be governed effectively. The reality is Pontiac is very different that Gaspesie. We can't keep up with this charade any longer . Editor, you can't be that naive to expect that the majority of francophones will keep supporting federation. When the Supreme Court will rule against Quebec with Walmart, the majority of francophone will be angry and will be voting yes in the next referendum. Their is no way that the Supreme Court will allow the Quebec government to modify the interpretation of Bill 101. This would violate the federal Trademark Act. The only way possible is to ditch separatist parts of the province and rebuilt the federalist parts free from the PQ government. On the good side, we will get rid of Quebec Solidaires and Liberals and Conservatives will finally be able to compete normally.

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    1. While partitioning QC might seem like a wholly satisfying twist in the face of the whole sovereignty issue, realistically speaking, I don't see any region where it would be plausible beyond the Native peoples territories (ie: northern Cree).

      Not being plausible doesn't mean it's not possible, but I just think it would get extremely acrimonious and, likely, violent. The whole "Quebec's borders are not divisible" is so ingrained in the purs et durs that I don't see them moving off that position ever. As such, any partition discussion is going to be a pitched battle and I don't see the two sides coming to an agreement. Some breakups are very civil and some are hell. I think any Canada/QC breakup would be hell x 10.

      Many of the separatists say that business is business and the ROC will do business with the new Republique as long as there's money to be made. I can see the ROC, after years of Canada bashing by QC (all the while receiving equalization payments), not wanting to have anything to do with them as a separate country. The separatists, of all people, should understand the emotional component that will exist and, in my opinion, it will be stronger than $$$.

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    2. for sure DHockey - the ROC will freeze them out so badly that they will not be able to conduct normal business for possibly 100 years or more. It's not like Canada deserves this treatment from Quebec - in fact, just the opposite is true - so emotions will be very high and very, very strong for a hell of a long time. Quebec separatists think all will go smoothly and without violence if they pull out of confederation without there being a democratic vote by municipality and/or federal district but they underestimate the anger of the federalists should they wake up one day and all be out of jobs that are tied to the federal government (which are millions in one way or another). When the bank forecloses on their homes, when they find they can't travel anywhere for business or whatever because they are no long Canadian citizens but rebels without a passport, when they find there is no food in the grocery stores because there will be no shipments through the ROC, etc. so many, many problems that they haven't even thought of, there is going to be big, big trouble. Less trouble if at least some of us can keep our homes and our businesses within Canada and go on the same day after a referendum. Full out civil war or a partial civil war is the only outlook for quebec at the present time. The separatists live in a fantasy land where one vote will keep all well in Disneyworld and they get to keep their federal taxes to give to the province instead. Silly, silly people.

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    3. FROM ED
      What does it take to reach your brains Cutie and Liam. Cutie, I have given you that link at least three times but you're such a doubting Thomas you still will not believe. he said, "English and French will have equal rights under a Liberal government."
      So you prefer to say it never happened and call me a liar by doing so. What has this shit about George Bush and Obama have to do with any thing here.
      Liam, the majority of Francophone Quebecers do support federation. That's why they vote Liberal unless they are duped into doing otherwise. They would have voted Liberal last time if the CAQ had not been invented by the separatists. If they have an honest chance , which means putting aside old gossip about corruption and whining about English rights before they have a chance to prove anything. It is strange that you guys are able to find the negativism but can't see the positive side. Ed

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      And how many of our homes will go with the French side Liam. You and Cutie are talking like children playing house, dividing Quebec as you see fit. For you living in Anglo districts you might be on the winning side but most of Montreal has French and English living as neighbours. This is not a fairy tale, "If they do this all will be happiness and joy." The bloodshed would be terrible in some districts. Even deaths most likely. Cutie says if that's what it comes to let's get it over with. Easy to say sitting next to Ottawa where you know would be chosen Federally. The simple way is an election. Liberals in, PQ out. But will the Liberals have a chance of getting elected by the time muck rakers like you guys are finished. Ed

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    5. Geez Ed you are the most stubborn man in all history. COUILLARD NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT IT EXCEPT "ALL CITIZENS IN QUEBEC ARE EQUAL" - he did not say he would create equality which we don't have at the present time' he said 'ALL CITIZENS IN QUEBEC ARE EQUAL" in other words he thinks things are just fine as they stand. Stop putting words in his mouth - it's bad enough the separatists do it but if he is looking for votes HE has to make it clear to all of us that we WILL BE EQUAL which would mean the lessening of restrictions under Bill 101 - he has never, ever said he will change anything! As to partition, what is worse? Some of us remaining Canadians or none of us remaining Canadians. We too live side by side with francophones but francophones per se are not the problem - it is the separatists that are the problem and they tend to live in ghettos - if Montreal votes as an entity do you not think they would select federalism? I do - I think they depend on the federal government just about as much as this area does. If you would listen - I said it's better if some of us can vote to remain Canadian than 49% of us to be pulled out of Canada = that is when ALL OUT CIVIL WAR WILL START. And don't remind us that this brings bloodshed - we all know that - it's the separatists you should be talking to. They are the ones that think they can tear a country apart without bloodshed - surely you know this is not possible! You can't have a country with 49% of the population not wanting to be part of the uncertainty of starting a new country that is starting out bankrupt before anything else. You must start going door to door for the liberals Ed - we're not muck rakers but I will not sit back and let you make statements that you have yet to prove and you haven't proven anything. I provided the link right after his election and he said no such thing as you are intimating. I wish it were true but it's not and that's it. If and when he comes out with anything that gives me hope for returning to rights and freedoms, I will be more than glad to publish it here first.

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    6. @cutie003

      "HE has to make it clear to all of us that we WILL BE EQUAL..."

      who's not equal cutie003? what can a quebec francophone do that a quebec anglophone can't? be specific.

      "They are the ones that think they can tear a country apart without bloodshed - surely you know this is not possible!"

      i think it can be done without bloodshed. why do you think there has to be bloodshed cutie003? you like bloodsheds? you'd support violence? are you that primitive?

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    7. what can a quebec francophone do that a quebec anglophone can't? be specific.

      Post a sign in his language.

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    8. student,

      what can a quebec francophone do that a quebec anglophone can't?

      Be the head of the OQLF.

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    9. Not have a tomato sandwich thrown in their face for talking.

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    10. Be served respectfully by STM metro employees.

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    11. Je croyais que vous étiez trilingue R.S.

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    12. They can take taxis without risking being accosted by drunk separatists or take the metro without having pathetic gangs of unhappy conquered people beat up elderly passengers.

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    13. Looks like you really got called out on your shit in a big way Dudent.

      Thought I might as well add the article S.R had point us to:

      Je ne suis pas psychiatre comme le fut jadis Camille Laurin le célèbre anglopologue, mais j’ai toujours trouvé nos Anglos un peu fous – avec de notables exceptions bien sûr. Sont pas fous à lier comme cet infâme Richard Bain, mais seulement atteints d’une sorte de trouble léger parano-obsessif déclenché dès qu’il est question du Québec.

      (Hmmm...wonder why that might be):
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qXxaV53UZ0
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrJkumcM4PA
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmX9SYhBavA

      Quiconque par mégarde s’est déjà retrouvé dans une discussion politique avec des anglophones du Québec ou du Canada le sait : peu importe le sujet ou le contexte, cela prend en moyenne cinq secondes avant qu’il ne soit question des séparatistes, dix autres pour parler de la loi 101 et rendu à la trentième seconde de cette passionnante discussion, il sera inévitablement question des bons mots de Jacques Parizeau sur l’argent et les votes ethniques (essentiellement).

      La rengaine est éprouvée : «sauf exception, les Québécois en général – et les séparatistes en particulier – sont des chauvins racistes xénophobes sur le bord qui cultivent leur ignorance en se privant de la richesse économique et culturelle inestimable qu’apportent la langue anglaise en général et les Anglophones en particulier. Ces provinciaux «incultes et bègues», geignards d’enfants-gâtés, oppresseurs de Westmountais et tortionnaires d’immigrants investisseurs, préfèreraient vivre dans un Québec arriéré et ruiné, transformé en une version joualisée du 3e Reich au lieu d’apprécier comme tout le monde les bienfaits du multiculturalisme canadien, la plus formidable invention depuis celle de la démocratie athénienne.»

      (Hmmmm...wonder why that might be):
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Curzi#Politics
      Any of this sound familiar? ---> http://bit.ly/12ORr9z
      "One Hundred Percent Americanism" Sound familiar? ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_klux_klan#Second_KKK
      http://bit.ly/10sUovN

      Le ton et la manière peuvent bien sûr varier. On préfère encore la variante sarcastique d’un Josh Freed, narquoise d’un Sugar Sammy ou celle, candide, d’Anne Lagacé-Dowson… au ton méprisant, hargneux et insultant des lignes ouvertes, des éditorialistes et autres commentateurs de la presse anglophone et des réseaux sociaux.

      J’ai vécu suffisamment longtemps à l’ouest de la Côte-des-Neiges pour savoir qu’il n’y a que deux issues possibles à ces fameuses discussions : acquiescer ou changer de sujet.

      Désillusionné quant à la possibilité de trouver un terrain d’entente et trouvant indigne d’être soupçonné de sympathiser avec le Klu Klux Klan, j’ai opté il y a longtemps pour la seconde option. De toute façon, et vous avez bien raison sur ce point, nous avons certainement plein d’autres choses à nous conter.

      Oui oui, les Québécois francophones de souche d’origine pure laine peuvent eux aussi en dire des bêtises, avoir leurs préjugés et être réellement racistes. Bien sûr que chaque bande a ses zigotos, mais désolé, jamais avec ce même zèle, cette obsession et cette quasi-unanimité qui caractérise l’opinion publique anglophone.

      http://bit.ly/YwdzHu
      http://bit.ly/14sWTEU
      http://bit.ly/17NRK9g
      ..or better yet, just attend a Loco Locass show and see what's said.

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    14. Love this part:

      Faut chercher fort avant de trouver des défenseurs sincères, même modérés, de la loi 101 dans les pages de la Gazette ou dans les Starbucks du West-Island.

      (Oooooohhh, so Anglos and immigrants are expected to subject themselves to Stockholm Syndrome? Why the fuck would they defend whaat oppresses them?)

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    15. Send his child to an English school if the parents want to.

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    16. @teacher

      "Post a sign in his language."

      you can post in any language you wish. but don't forget the translation.

      @troy

      "Be the head of the OQLF"

      haha! you are funny.

      @true montrealer

      "Not have a tomato sandwich thrown in their face for talking."

      i'd bet english and french communities have the same proportion of rude people. we can swap anecdotes all night long. we wouldn't get anywhere.

      @r.s

      "Be served respectfully by STM metro employees."

      i don't believe anglos can't generally be served respectfully by stm metro employees.

      @the conquest

      haha! you are funny too.

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  19. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE CALGARYWednesday, May 8, 2013 at 4:26:00 PM EDT

    @S.R.
    "La culture francophone,surtout en amérique,est beaucoup plus rare de ce fait,plus précieuse."

    Une culture subventionnee, cher ami.

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  20. Look YL and SR. Your brown shirt supporters at work.

    http://www.cjad.com/CJADLocalNews/entry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10541546

    Congratulations on inciting racial violence. Quebec has a bright future ahead.


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    1. While this CLEARLY wouldn't happen in Canada, though it's obviously many a separatist's wet dream, just read the opening paragraph and tell me it doesn't ring with familiarity:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide

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    2. Effectivement,il s'est fait tabasser solide.Je commence à avoir peur de parler globish en public,moi qui est en pleine immersion.Je crois que je vaisdorénavant pratiquer à la maison.

      Vous donnez des cours privés peggy?

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    3. Vermont : Burlington ouvre la porte à l'affichage en français

      http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/societe/2011/08/08/001-francais-vermont-burlington-commerces.shtml

      Et c'est tout le Vermont qui sollicite les Québécois pour allez y travailler.

      http://www.cursusmundus.com/travailler-aux-etats-unis/travailler-vermont-usa-9568

      Je crois que au lieu de devenir indépendant le Québec devrait plutôt songer à devenir un État Américain.Ils nous aiment plus que les canadiens...Étrange n'est-ce pas?

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    4. "un État Américain.Ils nous aiment plus que les canadiens...Étrange n'est-ce pas?"

      ___

      "Hello, is this the editor of the Merriam-Webster dictionary?"

      "Why yes it is old chap, how may I be of service."

      "Well, I believe I've just found a new definition for the term 'retarded'..."

      "Please go on."

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    5. By Jove, you are right, Resident Evil! Jolly good show!

      Pip pip, old chap.

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    6. Resident Evil:Un amoureux du Canada à l'âme troublée,fasciné par les américains?

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    7. "Et c'est tout le Vermont qui sollicite les Québécois pour allez y travailler"

      Of course they want your money. And that Money provided by whom.

      Quebec is a champion of BS, Chief contributor being..The ROC.

      Smell the Roses that are soon to wilt in 2014, mon petit ami du Quebec.

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    8. Can only hope that conservatives stop the generous transfer payments to Quebec soon.

      Cut the air supply to the crazies. They will have to worry abotu real things like jobs and food and not english anymore.




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    9. @cebeuq

      stopping equalization? why do you want to hurt ontario?!?

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    10. lol at Burlington looking to hire French Quebeckers. How long before one of these expat Québécois makes the news for going ballistic over a patron who wants to be served in English?
      To this you can say, "you shouldn't judge an entire people over a few idiots." However, I can't help but recall stories of Québécois blowing a gasket over the help at resorts in Cuba and Mexico being unable to serve them in French. Add this to the Pastagate incident and I can't help but feel that Francophone Montrealers are becoming more militant and irritated by displays of English since the PQ got elected. And it is from this pool of people Burlington is seeking workers. Well, you can take Ghislain out of Quebec...

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  21. FROM ED
    From Don McPherson's interview with Couillard :-
    "Don Macpherson: Are Quebecers ready for Philippe Couillard’s audacious positions?

    Don Macpherson

    MONTREAL - Talk about an “old-stock French-Canadian.” With obvious pride, Philippe Couillard traces his family’s history in Quebec back 11 generations, to an illiterate ship’s carpenter who arrived in 1613 with Samuel de Champlain, who had founded New France five years earlier.
    Guillaume Couillard then wed a daughter of Louis Hébert, the first French farmer, in the first marriage in the colony, and fathered the first child baptized here.
    But despite that pedigree, the present-day Couillard who is seeking the Quebec Liberal leadership told the members of The Gazette’s editorial board this week: “My citizenship is equal to yours.”
    It takes someone with such solid roots in French Quebec and the self-assurance of the neurosurgeon that Couillard is by profession — and maybe political naïveté as well — to take the audacious positions he outlined in the hour-long exchange on Wednesday.
    would include the “primacy” of French as the language “common” to all Quebecers, but also recognize that, regardless of their origins or mother tongues, they are all equal as citizens.

    The “national conversation” among Quebecers that would define this identity would begin in the Liberal party, since most of the linguistic and cultural communities are represented there.

    Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Macpherson+Quebecers+ready+Philippe+Couillard+audacious+positions/8036768/story.html#ixzz2SkSYe8J1

    Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Macpherson+Quebecers+ready+Philippe+Couillard+audacious+positions/8036768/story.html#ixzz2SkQTKaOS

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      Keep in mind that Don McPherson is a typical Anglo journalist mostly represented in the gazette which is an Anglo apology paper.
      he goes on to compare Couilard with Andre Boisclair of all people. Being the Anglo snake he is he brings up Couillard's affiliation with the criminal Porter even though that has been investigated and cleared. If we don't get the truth out about our Politicos they will not be able to help us when the chips are down. Ed

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    2. And exactly what in there says anything is going to change for the better for our community? And I want your interpretation of what you think is being said! And I couldn't care less about the Porter matter.

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    3. Don Macpherson is employed by The Gazette to be its Quebec affairs columnist, much like Henry Aubin is its Montreal affairs columnist.

      In other words, Don Macpherson’s job is to write about Quebec affairs… in The Gazette… in English… Quebec’s only remaining daily English newspaper since the Montreal Star and the Montreal Herald folded. This does not an apologist make.

      The comparison with Boisclair specifically mentions a few parallels in their leadership bids, nothing more; it does not say that they’re the same in any way, shape or form. Nothing to see here, move along…

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    4. FROM ED
      McPherson on Couillard " to take the audacious positions he outlined in the hour-long exchange on Wednesday.
      would include the “primacy” of French as the language “common” to all Quebecers, but also recognize that, regardless of their origins or mother tongues, they are all equal as citizens." He has stated that under his Liberal government French will be the national Language but people of all tongues will be equal as citizens. When I watched the original interview McPherson had proceeded this with the Question, "What about English rights?" When the interviewer mentions his audacity he means that Couillard is taking a chance on angering francos but the man had the courage to do it anyway.. For God's sake lay off and let the man help us.
      Equanimity, if you don't know that the Gazette is an Anglo apologist, you're the only one here who doesn't. Ed

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  22. Why don't we just keep the Quebecois subdivided to Quebec. The ROC can stay as the practical anglo nation they are. Let them vote and separate if they want (they haven't in two past referendums) and let the chips fall where they will. The entire thing with the language debate (except in Quebec where it appears to be an issue) is a moot quantity in Canada, exception being the OLA which is a failure of colossal proportions and should be rescinded ASAP to save the taxpayers some money. Hiring quota for federal civil servants bilingual is 40%...Number of Canadian residents (including Quebec) who are unilingual Franco ...13%. Something wrong with this picture... YOU BET

    Let Quebec have a vote and separate if they will. Canada would be a better country without Quebec and the trouble they bring in spades. Not to mention the 10 billion of so we send that way which could be better spent. Think of the advantages. No more Quebecois politicians causing problems for the ROC. They would only create their own problems as Marois and others before her.

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    1. Because most Quebecers are (and always have been) proud Canadians.

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    2. @true montrealer

      you are very wrong. here's the proof: http://tinyurl.com/bpjrvwe .

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    3. @student

      No, you are very wrong. Here's the proof: http://bit.ly/15KriQl

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    4. I'm happy to know that I only count as a Francophone if I don't know any English.

      I suppose this justifies those in Quebec who don't want anglophones to have services in English on the basis that they know French.

      The world is a richer place for the both of you, let me tell you.

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    5. @true montrealer

      my proof is better. your poll is biased.

      just check the first question on quebec's sovereignty. it asks if the debate is "more relevant than ever"... so national post grade propaganda. why not ask if the debate is relevant or not? afraid of what the result may be?

      i think it is as relevant as it has always been, so i would have answered no, it's not more relevant than ever. and you know i think it is relevant. you had not noticed this right true montrealer?

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    6. "my proof is better. your poll is biased."

      What are you, like 12?

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    7. @resident evil

      ?!?

      don't you think a biased poll is a weak proof, mate?

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    8. By Jove, here’s still more proof to bust your bad argument: http://bit.ly/10rEYrP

      Show some respect, mate.

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  23. Ils sont fous ces Anglos

    http://journalmetro.com/opinions/dici-et-dailleurs/156003/ils-sont-fous-ces-anglos/

    Absolument hilarant!!!

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    1. Leave already S.R.

      Is there a problem? Je penser les Quebecois soit le grande probleme pour Canada.. N'est pas.

      Avoir un encore biere de Molson quand le Habs perdrez le match.

      LOL, HA HA...Your silly joual speaker.





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    2. I would also qualify this incomprehensible rant as silly.

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    3. I am sure you get the idea Davey boy!!!

      SR and his Quebecois seppie buddies should exit stage left.....Do not go to collect your 10 Billion a year in equalization. No more get out of jail free cards (eg. Paul Rose)

      Capiche?

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    4. Not that it’s a point of pride but Quebec receives the second-lowest equalization payments per capita in Canada (link). It is Canada’s largest province and receives more than Ontario but less than the Maritime provinces and Manitoba (less than half of what NB and PEI receive per capita), yet you don’t hear too much griping about those provinces.

      It’s a pity that people like “Westerner” tar us all with the same brush on account of the loudmouth separatist minority.

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    5. FROM ED
      You're right Joseph. It angers me when people say let Quebec go, it's not worth anything. I have a problem with feeling that I am not worth anything. bigmouths talk about our homeland as though we have no feelings. We are doing our best to live here.
      We are trying to hold it all together and live normal lives. We are Canadians living in Quebec who have the same feelings about our home as those who attack us. clear thinking people like EDM and Quebecer of the Tree Stump have said they feel the same way. Not many have the courage to speak out in defense of our land. Ed

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    6. I'm not talking about letting all of quebec go - just those areas that want to leave - the rest of us don't want to go and they have no legal right to take away our land and our businesses from Canada to make it their own. That is what must be dealt with - the way to let those leave that want to leave and leave the rest of us to hell alone! God - it's so much simpler than what the separatists propose - to steal all the land and buildings. What the hell is the matter with democratic votes to let them go?

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    7. @cutie003

      "...they have no legal right to take away our land and our businesses from Canada to make it their own."

      you are the owner of your land now and you will still be the owner of your land when quebec separates, if it does. stop it with the nonsense about separatists stealing your land. it won't happen. it's a bad line.

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    8. My land will remain in Canada and will be worth money not in a country wherein it would be worthless. That's what you'd better understand - I will fight to maintain my land in Canada, if necessary, as so many of us will. Your vote would mean nothing to me - you people had better understand what you are proposing is going to cause physical violence - you and all your politicians know this but you pursue it anyway. It will be done at your peril.

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    9. The rest of the provinces live by civilized laws and rules and don't do things like put in $7.00 a day daycare for everyone in the whole province and then ask Canada for more money. They also live under the Canadian Constitution unlike rebellious quebec.

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    10. @cutie003

      "My land will remain in Canada and will be worth money not in a country wherein it would be worthless. I will fight to maintain my land in Canada"

      right. you will kill separatists for a few dollars more. you don't even sound canadian cutie003. where are you from?

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    11. Partition would only work of the separatists support it. Can you think of any separatist groups, big or small, that support the idea partition so they can leave Canada? Personally, I think separatism is a dying movement. The anti-English sentiment isn't dying, but would-be separatists are happy with the status quo. Quebec's level of autonomy is already so high that they don't feel they need to separate. That's what my guess is, anyway. I also don't like the idea of partition because the English speaking settlers have built so much of what is now French in Quebec. Even the Eastern Townships are not English-friendly anymore, but just a number of decades ago, they were very much so. The whole province was built by Canadians, French and English, and to carve in two seems unfair. Quebec is as Canadian as every other province. I think all of Quebec belongs in this country, not just the West Island and the Outaouais.

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  24. hey guys
    just returned from a 2 months project in Cuba.
    I can confirm, without a question of doubt, after countless interviews with Cuban tourist personel..that the French Canadians are the most HATED tourist group in Cuba.
    French Canadians are considered "maldicion" (cursed)..the Santero Cuban concept of mentally deranged,dangerous, sick. They hate dealing with them.
    The Cubans know little or nothing of our politics, but they know the Quebecois are not okay in the head..just by dealing with them.
    Every major director of public relations in every resort in Cuba hates the Quebecois.
    Every manager, every receptionist hates the Quebecois tourist.
    Cuba loves everyone..Russians,Americans, Canadians, Italians etc..
    Except the French Canadians.
    Due to my job, I travel the world. Over the past 30 years, I have found it increasingly necessary to define myself as English (not French) Canadian. Because the French Canadians are so hated in the world from Europe to China from the Middle to South East Asia.
    Why? Because these countries have been sending their kids for the past 40years to McGill and Concordia and all their kids have had racial/hate problems with the "natives" and, of course, reported their abuse back home.
    I have personally seen French Canadians abused and kicked out of restaurants and resorts in Turkey.
    When I asked the managers why? They said it was because of the abuse their children, nieces, nephews etc suffered in Quebec from the so called "French" racist pigs.
    Think about it. Over the past 40 years, hundreds of thousands of kids from all over the world have suffered racial/linguistic abuse while studying in Quebec.
    The point of this rant is that we are not alone. The world gets it.
    The WORLD GETS IT..THE WORLD KNOWS THEY ARE SICK..racist psychopaths.
    What the world doesn't get is WHY? Why is Canada letting 2-3 million psychopaths destroy our country for nothing?
    Clearly, there is not only something very wrong in our maldicion province of Quebec, but in our maldicion country if we can let a few million psychopaths destroy it.


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    1. Excellent Anonymus! :D

      "Over the past 30 years, I have found it increasingly necessary to define myself as English"

      Parlez-moi d'un cerveau en santé...Hahahaha!Totalement hilarant et pathétique à la fois.

      Un vrai "loser".

      Veuillez choisir un pseudo,c'est la règle sur ce blogue.Je vous suggère E.G pour Elvis Gratton

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    2. What the world doesn't get is WHY? Why is Canada letting 2-3 million psychopaths destroy our country for nothing?

      2-3 million people… that’s it! That’s who’s causing so much trouble for the other 32 million of us.

      It is clearly obvious to all and sundry that the people who choose to troll this blog are not entirely well in the head.

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    4. Force est d'admettre que nos 2 millions de "psychos" sont forcément plus intelligents que les 32 millions totalement impuissants,non?

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    5. Lets just label it for what it is. Mental illness.

      Some are unable to process information and rely on demagogue for guidance.

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    6. See how closely this represents the PQ leadership to PQ supporter relationship.


      A demagogue (/ˈdɛməɡɒɡ/) or rabble-rouser is a political leader in a democracy who appeals to the emotions, prejudices, and ignorance of the less-educated people of a population in order to gain power and promote political motives. Demagogues usually oppose deliberation and advocate immediate, violent action to address a national crisis; they accuse moderate and thoughtful opponents of weakness. Demagogues have appeared in democracies since ancient Athens. They exploit a fundamental weakness in democracy: because ultimate power is held by the people, nothing stops the people from giving that power to someone who appeals to the lowest common denominator of a large segment of the population.

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    7. Time to call a spade a spade: Quebec separatists do have a bug in their heads.

      The irony is that, in their zeal to erase English from the territory of Quebec, separatists are relying on accepting only francophone immigrants, and yet 92% of francophone immigrants to Quebec feel allegiance to Canada!

      Most immigrants to Quebec feel attachment to Canada: poll
      BY MARIAN SCOTT, THE GAZETTE MAY 6, 2013
      Ninety-two per cent of francophone immigrants and 91 per cent of non-francophone newcomers say they are attached to Canada, reveals the Léger Marketing survey.

      MONTREAL — Most Quebec immigrants feel attached to Canada, regardless of which language they speak, according to a poll for the Association for Canadian Studies. Ninety-two per cent of francophone immigrants and 91 per cent of non-francophone newcomers say they are attached to Canada, reveals the Léger Marketing survey.

      That contrasts with attitudes among native-born francophone Quebecers, of whom only 62.9 per cent describe themselves as attached to Canada. As for Canadian-born Quebec anglophones, the poll found 96.3 per cent feel attached to the country.

      The results suggest that French-speaking immigrants are not picking up attitudes on national identity shared by many “francophones de souche” (Quebecers descended from early French settlers), said Jack Jedwab, executive director of the association.

      While native-born Quebecers differ on attachment to Canada depending on whether they are francophones or anglophones, that division along language lines does not exist among newcomers, he said. “These francophone immigrants don’t seem to follow that pattern,” Jedwab said. “They have a level of attachment to Canada which is roughly similar to allophone immigrants and to non-francophone-de souche Quebecers,” he said.

      Sixty-three per cent of immigrants to Quebec from 2007 to 2011 can speak French, according to the Quebec immigration and cultural communities department, with the five top countries of origin being Morocco, Algeria, France, China and Haiti.

      But while most Quebec immigrants speak the language of the majority, they don’t necessarily share many francophone Quebecers’ attitudes on national identity, Jedwab said. The fact that immigrants have similar attachment to Canada regardless of whether they speak French or English suggests that identity issues in Quebec are not purely about language, but also about ethnicity, he said. “It’s not as much of a civic issue as some people would like it to be because it’s not as if the immigrant francophones coming here are developing the same ambivalence about Canada that a lot of francophones who are very rooted here feel,” he said.

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    8. “The grievances that are felt by a lot of francophones who have been here for several generations are not being transmitted to these French-speaking immigrants, because it’s not exclusively a language issue,” he said. “It’s also connected to this sense of belonging, to an ethnic dimension of their identity. Otherwise it would resonate more with these immigrant francophones,” Jedwab said.

      When forced to choose just one marker of identity, 30.3 per cent of native-born, francophone Quebecers pick Quebec, while 25 per cent choose the French language. Just 16.3 per cent choose their town or city, while 13.3 per cent choose Canada. When francophone immigrants to Quebec are forced to choose just one marker of identity, 34 per cent pick Canada, 28 per cent choose their religion, 12 per cent choose their ethnic origin and 12 per cent choose Quebec.

      Recent immigrants are much more likely to choose religion as the most important part of their identity than immigrants who have been in Canada for more than 20 years, the poll found. Among Quebec immigrants who have arrived within the past 20 years, faith is the top identifier, chosen by 32.9 per cent of immigrants who have been in Canada for less than five years, 41.3 per cent of those here between five and 10 years, and 40.9 per cent of those here between 11 and 20 years.

      Breaking down responses between people with strong and weak attachment to Canada, the survey found 56 per cent of francophone immigrants are very attached to Canada while 36 per cent are somewhat attached. Of non-francophone immigrants, 56.5 per cent are very attached and 34.8 per cent somewhat attached.

      Among native-born francophones, 23.9 per cent are very attached to Canada, while 39 per cent are somewhat attached. Among Quebec anglophones born in Canada, 78.5 per cent are very attached to the country, while 17.8 per cent are somewhat attached. Fifty-eight per cent of Quebec immigrants (all languages) describe themselves as very attached to Canada, while 33.9 per cent are somewhat attached.

      In Ontario, 68.4 per cent of immigrants describe themselves as very attached to Canada, while 26.9 per cent are somewhat attached. Among Canadian-born Ontarians, 81.8 per cent are very attached to the country and 16.4 are somewhat attached.

      The Internet survey was conducted in the first week of March among 801 Quebecers and 713 Ontarians, including 383 immigrants in Quebec and 212 immigrants in Ontario. The margin of error was said to be 3.9 percentage points, 19 times out of 20. On May 8, Statistics Canada will release results of the 2011 National Household survey, which will include information on immigration, ethnic origin, religion, language of work, education, income and housing from a survey of from 4.5 million Canadian households.

      mascot@montrealgazette.com
      © Copyright (c) The Montreal Gazette

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    9. "I have personally seen French Canadians abused and kicked out of restaurants and resorts in Turkey. I have personally seen French Canadians abused and kicked out of restaurants and resorts in Turkey.
      When I asked the managers why? They said it was because of the abuse their children, nieces, nephews etc suffered in Quebec from the so called "French" racist pigs. "

      They care about Quebec's reputation but not their own?

      Fighting racism by acting as a racist yourself...seems like a great idea...

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    10. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I too don't know why we allow these approximately 2.5 3M people to hold the rest of us hostage. They must be kicked out of Canada to live on their own and the rest of us can have peace again. 30% of quebec territory be given to them on which to reside - their area votes to leave off they go! It's past time that we get rid of them! Partition is the only way out of this disaster that they have created with their vicious attacks on the minorities in this province. Let's kick them out of Canada!

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    11. @ Anonymus

      LOL! You are hilarious. You make my day.

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    12. "I can confirm, without a question of doubt, after countless interviews with Cuban tourist personel..that the French Canadians are the most HATED tourist group in Cuba.
      French Canadians are considered "maldicion" (cursed)..the Santero Cuban concept of mentally deranged,dangerous, sick. They hate dealing with them."

      I don't know about the other countries mentioned by it is not the first time I hear that Quebecers are, mm, not appreciated in Cuba and this I've heard from Francophones themselves. I was actually planning to go to Cuba in earlier in April but then after speaking to a few people I work with, I was strongly discouraged, I was told that they weren't treated very nicely the last time they were there. We opted for Las Vegas instead.

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  25. Les idoles de M.Evil

    CNN anchors pretend they're having a "satellite interview" even though they're in the same parking lot.

    http://www.happyplace.com/23728/cnn-anchors-pretend-theyre-not-having-a-satellite-interview-in-the-same-parking-lot-funny

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    1. S.R. They have live locations set up, with lights, cameras and crew. There's a area for the person to stand. They have multiple ones. CNN has multiple affiliates they have to film. They need more than one live location. Even on screen it's written that they're both in Phoenix. I don't see the problem. That's how all network works. Even Radio-Canada and TVA will have many live areas across Montreal.

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    2. Liam, please don't let yourself get sucked into irrelevant, pointless nonsense.

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  26. AFS

    Quebec's referendum of 1995 was a 'coup d'etat' done no other by the Canadian government weeks in advance of the referendum date of October 30th. They allowed thousands of immigrants citizenship status and asked canadians to travel by land, air and sea to Montreal for a rally that previous saturday before the referendum attended by many federalists such as ex Premier John James Charest who recently loss his seat along with his party, the corrupt Liberal Party of Quebec now headed by a doctor named Couillard. Under 9 years of Charest dictatorship....Charest did nothing to protect or defend Bill 101 (which upholds and defends French as the ONLY official language of Quebec), hence...the english population (and allophones) became very comfortable. Now, the english are reasserting their desire to speak english and that Montreal be called a bilingual city. **They have more rights in Quebec than a francophone in other parts of canada with the exception of New Brunswick**. On September 4th, 2012, Mrs. Pauline Marois became the first woman Premier of Quebec with a minority government. Stay tuned and I will post more historical facts.

    AFS

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    1. Seppie playground logic.

      Even if you agree with the twisted logic, two wrongs don;t make a right unless you are a 5 year old.

      "historical facts" Another seppie living in the past.

      This is what happens when you spend all your time on un-employment listening to tapes from the dear leader.



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    2. First of all, all federal government will allow many immigrants to enter before an referendum. Heck, the feds did with 1995 Ontario elections. Also, a "Coup d'etat" requires use of force. Beside, I notice you didn't mention the referendum irregularaties commited by the seperatist including large number of rejected ballots in federalist districts.

      Charest did try to close the educational loopholes that allowed immigrants to buy their way in the english system. Also, Charest authorised a lawsuits against American multinational, with your tax dollar, need I remind you.

      If you have any allegations that the Liberals are corrupt submit this to the police and prosecutors, to file charges.

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    3. LordDorchester

      To AFS, regarding your "facts" , the Unity Rally before the 95 referendum was on a Friday, not a Saturday and most of the people at the rally were were from Quebec not from other provinces. I was there along with many, many federalist Montrealers that wanted nothing to do with the PQ's lobster pot separatist project.

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    4. FROM ED
      Liam, where do you get this crap about Charest suing Multinational corporations. Jean Charest was an honest man. he followed the rules of NAFTA to the letter. He would never do anything to harm the economy with political legal tricks. The lawsuit was launched by the Multinationals them selves against the PQ government. Charest had nothing to do with it. More lies, terrible. ED

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    5. There is not one "honest" political party in quebec so stop mentioning only the liberals - by the time they're through, if the Charbonneau Commission has any integrity, you will find corruption by all the politicians at every level in the province. Marois has already intervened to try to stop the PQ government's names from being brought up, so don't try to tell everyone that they are corruption free. This whole province is one big cesspool of corruption and everyone's on the take at every level.

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    6. Hey AFS - if the population of quebec really wanted independence then the wording of the referendum would have been clear: Clarity Act - Parizeau knew that if he worded the question so that people understood it, they didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting a "yes" mandate so stop talking as if it was close; it wasn't. Most of the population did not understand the question - they wanted a new deal with Canada such as using their money, open borders, partnership and on and on the demands went. Stupid question, stupid response. Next time, they will have to follow the law and the question will read something like: Do you want quebec to be a separate country? The people of quebec had better realize the implications of voting "yes" to such a question because there are going to be far reaching ramifications for all of them as there damn well should be. Then the votes can be counted by municipality or federal district and those of us that vote to remain within Canada will do so - the rest of you can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. Enough of the lot of you blackmailers, oppressors, bums, socialists, communists, permanent students, free everything society that you want. Kick you to hell out of Canada the faster the better.

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    7. Where in this question does it mention a unilateral declaration of independence? Parizeau, the nut, had it in mind all along but who the hell read the agreement signed on June 12, 1995? His formal offer to Canada for a new economic and political partnership must have been just f---ing wonderful when he wasn't able to sum it up for the people that he was asking such an important question as breaking up a country.

      Do you agree that Quebec should become sovereign after having made a formal offer to Canada for a new economic and political partnership within the scope of the bill respecting the future of Quebec and of the agreement signed on June 12, 1995?.

      Again, most quebecers thought that Canada would just agree to this new economic and political partnership as your leaders have been telling you all along that you can get what you want just by sticking it to Canada. You are so lucky that you're in this country.

      All the above says is if you don't go along with what we propose we will leave Canada come hell or high water. Never mind that most of the people have no intention of leaving Canada. Idiots.

      What about things like national defence? You separatists expect us to pay to protect you but you don't pay anything towards this protection? We would have no choice as you're in the middle of Canada and your politicians know this but you don't expect to pay for anything do you? Bunch of bloodsuckers and malcontents. The more I talk about this the more angry I get with the lot of you stupid people.

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    8. @cutie003

      "You separatists expect us to pay to protect you..."

      who do you think separatists need to be protected against?!?

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  27. FROM ED
    When are you going to get it. " Charest did nothing to protect or defend Bill 101"
    Charest did everything to protect and defend bill 101 as he should have.. He did it for the Francophone majority that elected him. How many times do people have to be reminded. The Liberals are not an English party. They are Federalist but not Anglo oriented. We are a minority. Bill 101 created by the PQ was in order when the Libs returned to power and at that time NO ONE was complaining. Since the French were happy and the Anglos seemed content with it there was no reason to change anything.
    Why do you trash the Liberals and Dr. Couillard with lies. When the PQ and CAQ were promoting this they were rumors but now that we know nothing has been found to back up these rumours we know they are lies. Why perpetuate them

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    1. Couillard never said the following Ed.

      "English and French will have equal rights under a Liberal government."

      I don't know why you dream this stuff up - This is not a true reflection of anything.

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    2. And the liberals are not truly a "federalist" party or they would be defending Canada - our fight is not with the francophone population in quebec it is with the separatists in quebec. When he said he was interested in signing the constitution, I had hopes that perhaps he would finally be a fair representative of federalists but since then he has said nothing. I would like to see him say something like he would have a referendum on signing the constitution. This would throw the whole battle onto the backs of the separatists and people would have no choice but to make up their minds where they stand on the matter instead of waiting and waiting until they drive out millions more "no" votes. The longer this goes on, the less "no" votes we have in this place. So you and I will be dead but our kids have to live with this insecurity that is bankrupting the province and the country.

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    3. The Liberals : too federalist for the nationalists, not federalist enough for the anglophones.

      What it is, is a party of compromise between a minority of federalist anglophones and allophones and the centre of reasonable francophones.

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    4. We have to stop thinking in terms of francophones vs anglophones - this is strictly a struggle to remain Canadian and we need the francophone federalists to realize this and stop worrying about language. Language is a red herring - that's it, that's all. The liberals need to speak to this matter - straight forward, stop worrying about the separatist vote - he must appeal to the federalist francophone votes - Charest never did this and that was a bad mistake. As soon as the PQ open their mouth concerning language rights Couillard must be ready to take them on and explain loudly and clearly that all this is to win support to leave Canada. A lot of francophone federalists need to know we are not out to strip them of their culture and/or language and the promotion of the french language in quebec is just fine. We encourage them to speak their own language and for others to learn it - not by legislation but by promotion through free language courses for instance and through things like sports and dance events whereby the two factions can be social and accepted by one another. Bullying people to learn a language is not the way to handle this.

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  28. More great news for Crapbec! The 49 year old Humpty Dumpty chip factory, that's headquartered in Montreal, is shutting down! 216 jobs lost, another big company gone from Crapbec. Aw, perdu!

    http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.1273193

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    1. Excellent!Les chips c'est catastrphique pour la santé.

      Autre bonne nouvelle:

      Fini la malbouffe pour les Boliviens : McDonald ferme tous ses restaurants en Bolivie

      http://www.mondialisation.ca/fini-la-malbouffe-pour-les-boliviens-mcdonald-ferme-tous-ses-restaurants-en-bolivie/5334316

      Espérons que le reste du monde suivra l'exemple des Boliviens dans la lutte au "junk food".

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  29. More details from the Gazette. Other Canadian plants are staying open, they're just dumping dead weight (i.e. Crapbec). Another beautiful example of what the separatists and PQ do to this province...

    http://www.montrealgazette.com/business/Lachine+Dutch+snack+plant+close/8351869/story.html

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    1. Prenez la route pour le Crapnada et...Good riddance!

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    2. "The Quebec market will be supplied by the company's four other Canadian factories (in New Brunswick, Manitoba and Alberta)."

      Bravo, Quebec!

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    3. Personally I avoid any products manufactured in Quebec, they're guaranteed to contain nut traces, corruption seeds, AIDS, fecal matter, cigarette ashes and Poutine. Maybe some of S.R's hair cuz he sometimes takes off his hairnet at the plant!

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    4. James

      And CAT just announced its closing its Toronto plant, this after it closed its London, Ontario plant last year.

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  30. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE CALGARYThursday, May 9, 2013 at 6:26:00 AM EDT

    "Maybe some of S.R's hair cuz he sometimes takes off his hairnet at the plant!"

    NOT a remote chance. S.R. did admit he works in the quebekistani "cultural" industry. I believe he may wish to become an "artiste" so he can live from federal subsidies. In a nutshell: he doesn't work at this time.

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  31. Just heard on the news that the mayor of Laval has been arrested and about 20 others are also to be arrested today. Stay tuned - is there an honest politician left in quebec? Maybe we should be placing bets on who is still "clean" in this place.

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    1. Gosh, what a surprise!

      If you ask me, arresting politicians is a huge waste of time and money. Were we expecting them to be honest and work for the little people when we elected them? ha...

      Until we change our entire political system, which is currently driven by money and big business, you are simply voting for who will be screwing you over for the next few years.

      There are no honest politicians. Honest people would not go into politics, they would most likely do something more constructive with their time. We didn't need to spend millions of dollars to find this out, it should be common knowledge.

      Too many people seem to live in a fantasy world with rainbows, unicorns, free tuition and honest politicians.

      Call my cynical if you want, but am I wrong?

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    2. "...is there an honest politician left in quebec?"

      Correction:

      "...is there an honest liberal left in quebec?"

      Voilà...C'est mieux :)

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    3. If that were true Marois would have kept her mouth shut when the commission started bringing up PQ names - stop trying to excuse the PQ - they are crooked also and the sooner you face it the better. All your politicians are crooks in this province - what does it take to show you? A slap in the face with a dead fish? Boy you guys are delusional to say the very least. What a stupid bunch - sad really.

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    4. Pauline Marois satisfaite des arrestations de l'UPAC

      http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/politique-quebecoise/201305/09/01-4649113-pauline-marois-satisfaite-des-arrestations-de-lupac-.php

      Héhé!

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  32. Something we already knew.

    Researchers establish link between racism and stupidity

    Findings taken from numerous research projects strongly indicate that prejudice, racism and intolerance are more likely to be present in individuals with greater cognitive rigidity, less cognitive flexibility and lower integrative complexity.

    http://www.ucanews.com/news/researchers-establish-link-between-intolerance-racism-and-stupidity/41572

    Best comment from this article: "Not all stupid people are racists, but most racists are stupid..."

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    1. "Not all stupid people are racists, but most racists are stupid..."

      Voici un bel exemple pour illustrer cette affirmation.

      "Personally I avoid any products manufactured in Quebec, they're guaranteed to contain nut traces, corruption seeds, AIDS, fecal matter, cigarette ashes and Poutine. Maybe some of S.R's hair cuz he sometimes takes off his hairnet at the plant!"

      Stupide?Raciste?Ou un savant mélange des deux?

      MDR!

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    2. "Not all stupid people are racists, but most racists are stupid..."

      i agree. good find laurie. and good example s.r.

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  33. "Personally I avoid any products manufactured in Quebec, they're guaranteed to contain nut traces, corruption seeds, AIDS, fecal matter, cigarette ashes and Poutine. Maybe some of S.R's hair cuz he sometimes takes off his hairnet at the plant!"

    That is funny...lol

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  34. "More great news for Crapbec! The 49 year old Humpty Dumpty chip factory, that's headquartered in Montreal, is shutting down! 216 jobs lost, another big company gone from Crapbec."

    Love it. Get the hell out...

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    1. @Anonymous

      PLEASE USE A SCREEN NAME TO COMMENT ON THIS BLOG.
      Slide up to the top of the page and click "How to comment on this blog" on the green bar.
      Thank you for your cooperation.

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    2. Don;t you see, this is an opportunity for some proper potato chip jobs.

      These jobs are not lost. student, SR YL are scheming right now with their local PQ minister and union leader about how to take the Quebec market by storm.

      They will hire thousands of workers and make proud PQ potato chips.

      Humpy Dumpty closing (how far you think they really ship bags of air, Alexandria?) is actually an opportunity for Quebec jobs and entrepreneurialism.

      They will be able to make potato chips at twice the price for a couple years until the gleam is off and the place closes because the quebec govt can only stockpile so many potato chips.

      At that point Quebec can create a "potato chip" commission to manage the import and production of potato chips to make sure "the appropriate mix" of potato chips is sold at the right price. IE prevent Quebecers from paying normal market rates for potato chips to suppor their friends pet projects.

      Reference Quebec strategy on maple syrop, cheese, milk, yogurt, beef, chicken etc etc etc.

      Go Quebec go.

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  35. The Editor writes, in delineating his points regarding Bill 101:

    "The requirement that the French text be larger than the English text in public commercial signage."

    Firstly, this is a great editorial. One of the Editor's best. I think it is just great that someone discusses all of the important issues that he does in such depth.

    As for the "marked predominance" requirement, sadly it is the ruling of the Supreme Court of Canada that this be allowed. Not that Quebec is required to legislate the "marked predominance" of French on commercial signs but it has the sanction of the Supreme Court to do so.

    Three points I'd like to raise about this:

    1) I would very much like to ask a lawyer whether "marked predominance" satisfies the judgement of the United Nations Human Rights Committee's McIntyre judgement of the early '90s which went against Canada. My layman's reading of the judgment is that freedom of choice in language on commercial signs was what they said should be allowed, but I could be wrong. If "marked predominance" does in fact violate the judgment, what can we do about it?

    By the way, Quebec couldn't be challenged in this court because it is Canada that is a member, not Quebec...and it was the Justice department under Mulroney who defended Quebec in court, not McIntyre. This was done under Kim Campbell was then Justice Minister.

    2) It is interesting to note that of all the judgements the Supreme Court could have come up with, "marked predominance" is the closest thing to sanctioning "French only" signs possible. The judgements wasn't "equal" signage or free choice but one notch below "French only".

    3) This judgement (which is obviously flawed and did not follow the rule of law) is, I believe, what prevented Howard Galganov from not only prevailing in the lower courts in Ontario when he recently challenged a requirement of certain towns in Ontario for bilingual commercial signs but was responsible for the Supreme Court of Canada from refusing to even hear the case. And Galganov is stuck with paying 100s of thousands of dollars in court costs, to boot.

    So the judgement had far-reaching implications that is affecting Canadians outside Quebec, even to this day. I recently spoke before the Richmond, B.C. City Council to implore them not to pass any laws requiring English on commercial signs (they had recently been lobbied to do so by some nutty anglos who were unhappy with too much Chinese on signs). But I reminded them that, unfortunately, the Surpreme Court allows this sort of thing.

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  36. The Editor writes:

    "...I wish francophones of good heart to understand that all this is a gambit meant to create an atmosphere of fear and intimidation, in no way an attempt to advance the French language situation. It is nothing more than a cynical strategy by a government which wishes to achieve sovereignty by advancing a climate of hate through language conflict."

    Well, that may explain the motives of the PQ, a government committed to the Sovereignty option.

    But what explanation can the Editor give for the Liberal Party of Quebec for supporting the same laws? Remember, we are not talking about Bill 14 here, but of Bill 101 which the LPQ fully supports. The LPQ claims to be a pro-Canada party...so what is the explanation for their support of the law?

    As well, Justin Trudeau fully supports Bill 101 and, therefore, all of the things the Editor delineates, above. Justin is not a sovereignist (at least not yet; not until Harper outlaws gay marriage and abortion). Can the Editor contemplate what his motivations are?

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    1. Have to agree with what you say Tony but, the way things stand, we have no choice of who to vote for as yet. When we have no choice we have to vote for the liberals - other than that we vote for separatists so what do you suggest we do? If we don't vote, that let's the idiot PQs or one of the other separatist parties in line for the job. As I've said before, democracy is long dead in quebec. The liberals don't have to explain anything, they know we have no choice nor do any other federalists in the province. Unless the PC's or the Equality Party run a candidate in my area, I will have no choice yet again but to vote for the liberals. I would rather do that than spoil my ballot as that gains us nothing. Four years of some kind of peace would be welcome over this on-going harassment by the PQs, not to say the liberals have been much better.

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    2. Cutie:

      If the community, once again, is going to vote massively for the Liberals and if the Equality Party is not fielding candidates, then the least we can do is get something from the Liberals for our support.

      About 40% of all the votes the Liberals get come from the non-francophone community. I would say that if we are all going to vote en masse for the Liberals then we should approach Couillard, now, and say: "we want to vote Liberal. However, in return for our vote, we would like a crumb. Seeing as it has been Liberal policy for 32 years, we would like you, upon ascending to Premier, to institute section 23.1.a in Quebec in return for our vote. Please, Mr. Couilllard, give us that commitment now before we vote for you."

      If Couillard can't give us this crumb, then spoiling one's ballot is far more preferable.

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  37. Justin is just like his father and until people wake up to what is really going on, things will only get worse.

    "Let me say very clearly that I support Bill 101," J Trudeau said Thursday.

    "It is a reality that helps Quebec remain mainly French in a bilingual country. If we want Canada to remain bilingual — and I want it — we need to understand that Quebec must remain primarily francophone." Justin Trudeau - Nice Eh?



    "Canada isn't doing well right now because it's Albertans who control our community and socio-democratic agenda. It doesn't work," Trudeau said in French to interviewer Patrick Lagace on the Tele-Quebec program Les francs-tireurs (The Straight Shooters).



    Lagace then asked Trudeau if he thought Canada was "better served when there are more Quebecers in charge than Albertans?"
    Trudeau replied: "I'm a Liberal, so of course I think so, yes. Certainly when we look at the great prime ministers of the 20th century, those that really stood the test of time, they were MPs from Quebec... This country - Canada - it belongs to us."


    Trudeau specifically named prime ministers Pierre Trudeau, Chretien and Paul Martin but also included Progressive Conservative Mulroney on his list of great Quebec prime ministers of the last century.


    “I always say that if, at a given time, I
    believed that Canada was really the Canada of Stephen Harper, and that we were
    going against abortion, that we were going against gay marriage, that we were
    moving backwards in 10,000 different ways, maybe I would think of wanting to
    make Quebec a country,” when the interviewer asked for clarification he replied
    “Oh yes, absolutely. If I no longer recognized Canada, I know my own
    values very well.” Justin Trudeau


    .” ….Given these facts, should French-speaking people concentrate their efforts on Quebec or take the whole of Canada as their base? In my opinion, they should do both; and for the purpose they could find no better instrument than federalism”, Pierre Trudeau,.


    Justin Trudeau supports the racist, bigoted, xenophobic bill 101. Yes he supports a French only Kebec (proper native spelling) and forced french “bilingualism” all over the country, nice eh? Just like a daddy a French first, Kebec first bigot, hypocrite, from the province of the Qlue Qlux Qlan. Get back to the tax and spend, have not, high debt, socialist province of Kebec and shut up you parasite Trudeau, yes Kebec where you fit right in.

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  38. People can’t or refuse to rap their heads around what is really going on even though the proof, the evidence is all round you…wake up and open your eyes, your brain.

    How about a few quotes from these bigots , here you go.

    .” ….Given these facts, should French-speaking people concentrate their efforts on Quebec or take the whole of Canada as their base? In my opinion, they should do both; and for the purpose they could find no better instrument than federalism”, Pierre Trudeau,.

    "There is no way two ethnic groups in one country can be made equal before the law....and to say it is possible is to sow the seeds of destruction”. Pierre Trudeau,

    "I cannot swear it but I think we were thinking to ourselves,... we are a small group, Trudeau, Pelletier, Marchand, Lalonde, Chrétien, myself and a few people in the civil service, say 50 all told…we were bringing off a revolution. We held the key posts. We were making the civil service bilingual (French), kicking and screaming all the time". Jean-Luc Pepin, Minister of Industry, 1970.

    So while Quebec bans the English language (bill 22, bill 178, bill 101…), wipes out its real BNA, UEL history, while ethnic language cleansing is going on in Quebec, the rest of the country is forced to fund whatever the French (metis) demand. This is going on in every province. Go check.

    “First Quebec, then we take over the rest of the country, one step at a time…through bilingualism…” PT, “How to take over a country through bilingualism…” SD. How ? First comes the right to communicate with gov't in a minority language (ie French),then comes bilingualism, then comes the right to work in the language of choice(ie French), then comes a bilingual boss,(ie French) then comes a exclusively French department and on it goes until its all French. Its happening all over the country, Ontario, New Brunswick…That’s what’s really going on.

    “My roll as Secretary of State of Canada is first and foremost to ensure that my French compatriots in Canada feel with deep conviction, as I do, that this is their country and that it reflects their image”. “I too had some difficult years as a politician; I’m still having them, in fact, because everything we undertake and everything we are doing to make Canada a French state is part of a venture I have shared for many years with a number of people”. “You know the idea, the challenge, the ambition of making Canada a French country both inside and outside Quebec — an idea some people consider a bit crazy, is something a little beyond the ordinary imagination”. – Serge Joyal, Secretary of State – Page 2 ‘ENOUGH’ by J.V. Andrew. – Serge Joyal – Now in the Senate.

    "The Canadian government is engaged in a task of spreading the French
    language across the length and breadth of the country". Jules Leger,
    l968

    How much more proof do you need? Open your eyes folks, its happening all over the country.

    Watch the clips please.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abOWJkf-Vh8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhPcV0gtFR0

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  39. The Editor writes:

    "Rene Levesque himself was quite uncomfortable with the clearly hateful and illegal elements of Bill 101..."

    Apropos to the above, the Editor might find the following of interest:

    "I regret to say it, but I have to say it very, very frankly: that the law is Bill 101 such as it is until it is declared as constitutional or unconstitutional; that we'll see. As far as
    recourse is concerned, there are appeal rocedures that have been foreseen; they can be used. The courts are there; the Human Rights commission is there."

    --Rene Levesque; October 1977; Lester B. Pearson School; St. Hubert, Quebec

    So, yes, I agree with the Editor that Levesque was uncomfortable with much of Bill 101. Unfortunately, he wasn't around to see most of the court challenges to Bill 101 come to fruition at the final stage (the Supreme Court). One wonders how he would have felt about the overriding of the Ford signs provision ruling when the notwithstanding clause was invoked and Bill 178 was passed in '88.

    I think the Editor might agree with me that Levesque would have condemned Bill 178.

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  40. Just a commentary from a liberal on the arrests today:

    http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Liberal+Robert+Po%C3%ABti+lauds+UPAC+work+criminals+behind/8360333/story.html

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  41. New commision by the PQ Government
    http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/Politique/2013/05/08/007-rapatriement-constitution-petition-quebec-commission-nationale.shtml
    Premier Marois has been calling commission, summits, forums. She has just changed project names (Plan Nord becomes Plan Nord pour Tous), she keeps on backtracking, Minister are resigning before a year. She has reached 65% unsatisfaction rate in just 7 month, a percent it took Charest 7 years to achieve. Pauline isn't a leader, she doesn't understand business, nor economic, nor the reality of this province. I would call her Quebec's most pathetic premier in history, she has no clue about the province, just her mansion on Ile Blizzard, ironically contains land owned by the government. The Health Ministry recently admitted that he can't even buy a new ambulance. Also, Premier Marois has just bribed Quebeckers by opening new daycares, which is supposed to be run by the private sector, not the government, talk about arguing with Ottawa over responsibilities when Quebec intrudes on other responsibilities. Nowhere in the Constitution is it written that Quebec can run a childcare service. God at least, Legault realised this party was going nowhere. This government should resign en masse, because this level of incompetence has never been seen before.

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    1. More of our tax money down the drain - why do they want this? They keep complaining they never signed it anyway so what the hell difference does it make? No wonder the ROC want us to hell out. Now they'll want the ROC to pay for it.

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  42. I'm a little ticked off over the following, pls see link below.

    Canada threatens to boycott commonwealth summit in Sri Lanka because of Human Rights violations, yet they allow Human Rights violations to go on and perpetuate in their own back yard by allowing Quebec to maintain its oppressive 101 Law and now the introduction of bill 14.

    Go Tories Go !!

    Yes...by all means...Just GO!

    http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/05/02/canada-strengthening-evil-forces-with-threat-to-boycott-commonwealth-summit-sri-lankan-official/

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  43. "Forcing English people to attend French schools
    Do militants believe for one moment that going to French school will transform the children into francophones?"

    There might be a confusion here with the word "francophone". If it means franco-québécois-pure-laine-descendant-des-colons-de-la-Nouvelle-France-bla-bla-bla, then, no, school will not turn them into francophones.

    If it means "able to speak french", then, well, they do learn french by attending french schools. Will they forget english? Of course not, remember : it is not a zero sum game...

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    1. Étant donné que 70% des Québecois anglophones sont désormais bilingues, et que la portion des plus jeunes l'est encore plus, est-il nécessaire de nos jours d'enroller les australiens et les jamaicains dans les écoles francophones?

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    2. Appuyez-vous le PQ, M. Patrice? D'appuyer un parti qui est clairement contre l'education anglaise pour les francophones et de dire aussi que c'est essentiel que les immigrants anglophones apprennent le francais, est de faire deux poids, n'est-ce pas?

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    3. LD

      English speaking immigrant parents should have a choice like local English speaking families do. English schools can teach French to their students like any other subject. That isn't good enough apparently. They have to be brainwashed to become sympathetic to the Separatist cause and that will only occur in a French school.

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    4. @yannick

      of course! you acknowledge that the trend is good... why would you revisit the law behind the trend?!?

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    5. @ld

      or maybe immigrants should choose saskatchewan instead of quebec if they want to spare their kids contact with francophones.

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    6. "English speaking immigrant parents should have a choice like local English speaking families do. English schools can teach French to their students like any other subject. That isn't good enough apparently. They have to be brainwashed to become sympathetic to the Separatist cause and that will only occur in a French school."

      I am quite convinced that if La Loi 101 would be repealed that nothing would change, in that, the preference by Francophones would be to still send their kids to French school. I don't think "They" are concerned about that. They are concerned however, that the immigrants will choose to do otherwise and therefore would prefer to have their kids educated in English; because, let's face it, they realize that it puts their kids at the forefront of Opportunity. In essence though, because the Francophone population is dwindling, in the province, "They" fear..."They" fear..."They" fear... "They" fail to reproduce and this becomes everyone else's problem.

      I find it very amusing to think that even though the Anglophone population has substantially diminished these 40 years, their presence is still sooooooo feared in this province !! Feared and essentially, despised.

      With the immigrant population growing however, at the rate that it is growing in Quebec, eventually it will be the immigrants that will be in charge, just by their shear numbers, they will end up holding the power....and immigrants as we know too well already,...have their own culture, they'll learn any language, but essentially, they hang on to their culture and their identity.

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    7. Student : Why indeed?

      Well if the trend was bad, you'd tell me that this was needed. If the trend is good, then why change strategies?

      In short there is and never will be any reason to consider letting americans and australians send their kids to an English school, right?

      Now, consider that they would learn French, as Anglophones going to English schools already are ­already http://www.pch.gc.ca/pgm/lo-ol/pubs/npc/c-g/c-g211-eng.cfm. Since these people have been unaffected by the sections of 101 relevant to this conversation, you cannot claim that these sections are to credit for this exemplary high bilingualism rate.

      So why prevent Anglophones from outside Quebec to attend English schools? You are cutting yourself from some of the most highly qualified workforce in the world. Perhaps the parents might never learn French, but who cares? Their children will, and you need to be planning long-term.

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    8. "In short there is and never will be any reason to consider letting americans and australians send their kids to an English school, right?"

      yes there is. if one day quebec gets full control over its immigration and if one day the francophone population stops receding then maybe it will be possible to envision relaxing this rule.

      "Since these people have been unaffected by the sections of 101 relevant to this conversation..."

      why not? it's not obvious from the graph that anglophone immigrants have been taken out of the table.

      "So why prevent Anglophones from outside Quebec to attend English schools?"

      you mean from outside canada, right? well it's to better the chances of french canadian culture in quebec to survive a few centuries more.

      "You are cutting yourself from some of the most highly qualified workforce in the world."

      you're right. that's why it's important to make sure homegrown workforce also remains top notch.

      "Perhaps the parents might never learn French, but who cares? Their children will, and you need to be planning long-term."

      exactly. long term. that's why the kids are sent to french school.

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  44. THAT IS IT!! Another reason to hate Ottawa.

    These are nice warm spring days to play golf, are they not?

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  45. Mr Wolfe, I guarantee you if I surfed the web looking for Harper quotes to take out of context, I could make him look just as bad, likely worse.

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  46. Montreal Canadiens lose:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdCUpiI1MSA

    Hahahahaha Montreal flat out FAILS in every possible way, even sports!

    Go, Ottawa (and Toronto), Go!!

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