Wednesday, May 15, 2013

PQ Report Card a Sad Indictment of Dismal Failure...Part one

The PQ Ship of Fools
With the election of a new Liberal party leader Philippe Couillard  and an uptick in the polls, it's not unreasonable to look forward to the demise of this PQ government, if not in the short term, perhaps in the medium term.

New leaders of any political party enjoy a brief honeymoon that only the smartest take advantage of.

If the Liberals are adept, they'd quickly work to dump the PQ government  and plunge the province into a quicky type election, but it's unlikely as the CAQ fearing a Liberal majority will be compelled to support the moribund PQ government.

Since nobody can really predict what will happen, we may or may not be stuck with a PQ government that can best be described as not quite up to snuff.

When the PQ was first elected I wrote a piece describing the utter lack of potential cabinet talent within the PQ ranks and the unmitigated disaster that awaited us as a bunch of incompetent fools were handed the reins of power.  Read: Pauline Steers a PQ Ship of Fools
I think it's fair to say that time has borne me out and that this opinion wasn't just a partisan shot.

While I generally disdain all pequists, past and present, I  am the first to say that many PQ governments of the past were made up of men and women with a certain level of competence, responsibility and yes, honour, all of which is sadly lacking in Pauline's motley crew.

Let me provide a report card on the ministers of this government, cognizant of the fact that I am not  a fan, something like a Montreal Canadiens fan rating the Boston Bruins, player by player.

Nicolas Marceau- C
Minister of Finance. 
Of all the PQ ministers, Nicolas Marceau came with perhaps the highest credentials with a solid academic background. However it turns out that being book-smart is no replacement for experience, something he apparently sorely lacks.
His first move as finance minister was utterly disastrous, not only raising taxes, but doing it retroactively.

What is wrong with retro-activity?
Well, it is like Loblaws raising the price of the groceries you bought last year and sending you an additional bill now.  Not many people would be fine with that.

The outcry in the press was more than he and the government could stand as he sheepishly reversed his position, a harbinger of a string of about-faces that would plague the Marois government in the future months.
Marceau's gaffe didn't just surprise me because he should have known better, what really amazed  me was that his deputy-minister and professional staff didn't  steer him away from the disaster, after all, they are professionals and could not have been blind to the impending disaster.
Either Marceau over-rode their advice or they let him commit hari-kiri in public, neither scenario, very encouraging.
Marceau has never recovered and has kept his head down, his reputation in tatters, something that no minister of finance can afford.

Martine Ouellet- F
Minister of Natural Resources. 
There's no polite way of saying it, the Minister of Natural Resources, Martine Ouellet is an idiot, a dangerous fool who doesn't even understand the difference between money spent and money saved.

In complaining about Ottawa's loan guarantee to Newfoundland's potential underwater electricity transmission line, she told Quebec taxpayers a bold-faced lie in intimating that it is costing Canadian taxpayers $900 million dollars, when in fact it is costing next to nothing.
I've told you this before, it is akin to counter-signing a car loan at the bank for your brother, because his credit is not as good as yours. Because of your guarantee, the bank will charge a lower interest rate, saving a couple of thousand dollars in interest.
If the loan is repaid, the guarantor is not out of pocket a dime, a concept the minister has trouble understanding.
In this interview, Martine Ouellet is explained as such by an incredulous Radio-Canada interviewer, who is hard-placed to mask her disdain for the sad-sack minister.
There's no doubt in my mind that the young interviewer would make a better Minister than Ouellet!

Watch the video and laugh or cry. Ouellet is truly an idiot par excellence.


But that's not all, Ouellet who has previously voiced her opinion that shale gas can never be safely exploited, has sent the file for study to the BAPE, an environmental agency for study, without understanding that any conclusions that agency draws further down the road are actually moot.
Because of the vast amount of shale gas already brought to market in North America, the price has collapsed, making new development uneconomic.
And so it doesn't really matter what conclusions are reached, NOBODY IS INTERESTED IN DRILLING anymore and as we say in English, That ship has sailed.
If the politically-challenged minister doesn't understand that metaphor, here's another.
"YOU'VE MISSED THE BOAT!"
Sending the shale gas file for environmental assessment now is like asking the agency to study the efficacy and safety of the production of typewriters. 

Then there is the fiasco of the new plan to raise mining royalties, a cornerstone of Ouellet's election campaign, where she promised to up royalties by $350 million. Ouellet reminds me of the little girl selling lemonade in front of her house for $100 a glass, believing that she only need sell one to be successful.
The Marois government backed off that commitment as if it were radioactive, citing changing circumstances, infuriating the Minister to the point that she almost resigned.
Nah.....just kidding, a ministerial limousine is nothing to trifle with!

Clearly in over her head, Ouellet is plainly an embarrassment to herself, the government and all Quebecers.

Agnes Maltais- D
Minister of Unemployment and Welfare  Minister of Labour, Employment and Social solidarity. 
Madame Maltais reminds me of one of those stereotypical characters in the movies of old, a stern matron, running an orphanage with an iron fist.... grim, bossy, regimented and eternally angry.

She ran into a monster problem right off the bat as the Conservative government imposed changes to the Employment Insurance program designed to penalize frequent benefits claimants, a large proportion found in Quebec's boonies.
Her position in demanding Ottawa reconsider the program and the disastrous consequences (Quebec would be liable for welfare payments wherein claimants lost their Employment benefits) and her tantrum in the press where she demanded that Ottawa undertake economic impact studies before proceeding, fell on deaf ears. Diane Findlay, the conservative minister in charge of the program in Ottawa, gave Maltais a ten-minute meeting before politely showing her the door.
Maltais was also forced to drop the election promise made by the PQ whereby the province would seek repatriation of the Employment Insurance program to provincial jurisdiction.
It seems that Madame Maltais and the PQ failed to do their own economic impact study, because as it turns out, such a move would cost Quebec over $700 million, the difference between what Quebecers contribute and take out of the EI program.

Then Madame Maltais announced cuts to welfare payments to some claimants in order to encourage them to get back into the workforce.
There's nothing like taking the food out of the mouths of welfare bums to start an uproar. Those affected by the new measure showed a surprising level of industry in organizing a spirited defense of their entitlement, marching and occupying the constituency offices of many members of the PQ.
"...Labour Minister Agnès Maltais, is being bombarded with criticism for her decision to cut $20 million from the welfare budget.
"I think it's double-talk," said Françoise David, Québec Solidaire MNA for Gouin.
"On one hand you pretend to give support to vulnerable people and on the other hand, you allow cuts that affect those who are the poorest in our society..." 
...Maltais surreptitiously cut funds this week to welfare recipients between the ages of 55 and 58 and those living with pre-school children. She also made budget cuts to a program that helps recovering addicts. Link
Opposition parties then dug up a video of Maltais arguing against exactly such a move, when she was in opposition and after an unfortunate answer in the National Assembly, she was accused in Le Devoir of making convoluted statements (alambiquée) while another commentator on the story used the word 'charabia' (gibberish) to describe her response. Video plus story {fr}
It's never good when the press and the public start to mock you.

Now the welfare cutbacks actually made sense, but when the welfare lobby rose in righteous indignation and started demonstrating across the province against the cutbacks, Maltais did an about face and reversed her decision, reflecting the PQ's lack of confidence and its propensity for improvisation.

Maka Kotto- F
Minister of Culture
An unsuccessful actor/idiot who only made it to the cabinet because of his minority status.
You'd think that in his capacity of Minister of Culture, he wouldn't be able to cause much damage, flitting from award ceremony to theater openings adding a little 'colour' to the mix. But alas the stumblebum, proved everyone wrong in his first weeks on the job, calling the cultural attachés serving around the world back to Quebec on an expensive mission, just to tell them that their budgets would be cut.
"Minister Maka Kotto was called to order by the Deputy Prime Minister, François Gendron, Wednesday. Dean of the National Assembly, Mr. Gendron reminded his colleague, Minister of Culture the importance  for the members of the cabinet, while managing public funds.
This public snub occurred in the aftermath of the broadcast of a dispatch of the Canadian press indicating Mr. Kotto had convened in Montreal  22 Québec foreign delegates in times of budget cuts and against the advice of its staff members who felt it an  unnecessary expense." Link

Daniel Breton- F
Minister of Nothing anymore
The rookie minister never had a chance and was dumped from the cabinet after revelations about his deadbeat past came out.
"According to newspaper reports Breton has a string of criminal convictions dating to 1988 for defrauding the unemployment insurance system, and as recently as 2007 was fined $400 by Revenue Quebec. La Presse also reported that Breton was convicted in 1997 for driving without a license.
Meanwhile TVA reported that Breton was evicted from his apartments in 2005 and 2009 for non-payment of rent. Photographs from his landlord show hundreds of empty bottles of wine left in the apartment Breton was forced to leave." Link
But before he left the radical environmentalist raised the ire of opposition parties when it was revealed that he exceeded his authority;
 "In Quebec City, a special committee is hearing from commissioners who claim to have been bullied by former Environment Minister Daniel Breton. The commissioners work at the BAPE, Quebec's independent environmental review board.

Pierre Fortin testified Breton paid commissioners a highly unusual visit last October, during which he asked for their cell phone numbers and threatened he would be watching their decisions. Fortin says the visit left him feeling very uncomfortable.

"He said if he was unhappy with the BAPE's work, he would let us know about it," explains Fortin. "It made everyone feel nervous and uncomfortable."
"Link
Nicole Léger- D
Minister of Family
A staunch defender of the public daycare system she cut millions from the private network while telling the operators that they should be happy because it could have been much worse.
After a demonstration in Quebec to protest the cuts the minister invited the leaders to a meeting where she promised that she would listen to their grievances even if she wasn't going to change her mind.

The Minister had previously told reporters that daycares would henceforth be subject to language requirements of Bill 101, then recanted after a firestorm of protest..

She's another big fat bust....er sorry!

Jean-François Lisée- B
Minister of lots of things but most importantly Anglophone relations
Of the entire Marois cabinet, there are only two ministers whom I give a passing grade and Jean-François Lisée rates the highest.
Mr Lisée presents in the finest tradition of Quebec sovereigntists and PQ ministers who genuinely have affection and respect for the English community.

In a cabinet rife with rabid anglophobes, Lisée is perhaps the one moderating influence and is in fact the only one who has reached out to the community with a level of honest respect.

Mr. Lisée is actually a better politician than journalist or educator, his wacky ideas about the economy and francophone/anglophone relations, a witch's brew of cherry-picked facts and illogical conclusions, non sequiturs that convince only the committed.

But as a minister, he is a credit to the position.  He has a confident smile and a respectful tone, a quick wit and a positive attitude, something sorely lacking in Pauline's grim coterie of dismal hacks.
He is the one and the very few who actually carries himself in a ministerial manner.


Readers may not like his separatist politics, but when rating an opponent, one cannot take away points for success.  One of the very few in the Marois cabinet who is as they say in French 'parlable,' the PQ cabinet would be well served to take his example.
That being said, manners and polish aside, what has he really accomplished?


Next week I'll review other members of the cabinet and take a shot a Pauline Marois herself...

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 Just in passing.....
To Toronto Maple Leaf fans, I can only say how badly I feel over the worst playoff collapse I have ever seen in my lifetime.



At least you'll have something to tell your grandchildren.
Like those of us old enough to remember the assassination of John Kennedy or the news of the destruction of the Challenger space shuttle, you'll always remember where and under what circumstances you witnessed the infamous Toronto Maple Fail.

At any rate, I've put up a Senators logo and as the last Canadian team left standing, let's all wish them good luck!

192 comments:

  1. And to think that this bunch squeaked in by a mere 30,000 votes (0.7%)... PQ 1,393,703 and Liberals 1,360,968.

    Fortunately, this week ThreeHundredEight.com projects Liberals at 35.1%, PQ at 27.0% and CAQ at 19.6% (by amalgamating the latest polls). (link)

    I guess the Equality Party is part of the Other category at 1.7%... still not sure what to make of them.

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  2. Regarding Lisée, here’s an image the Editor and others might like to save regarding the so-called Minister for Anglophone Relations, responsible for building bridges between the communities:

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=644623275564794

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  3. Great news for Ed Brown and other Verdunites! Verdun finally gets its first bar in over 100 years!

    http://www.mtlblog.co/2013/05/verdun-finally-gets-its-first-bar-in-over-100-years/

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    1. FROM ED
      WHADDYA MEAN, GREAT NEWS? IT TOOK THEM SO LONG I'M NOW TO OLD TO GET THERE. Ed

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  4. Good point, True Montrealer.

    "Jean-François Lisée- B; Minister of lots of things but most importantly Anglophone relations
    Of the entire Marois cabinet, there are only two ministers whom I give a passing grade..."


    Editor, you gave FOUR passing grades: Lisée's B, a C, 2 Ds and 3 Fs. I think you were overly generous with the D's, and Lisée has the tongue of a snake oil salesman.

    "It seems that Madame Maltais and the PQ failed to do their own economic impact study, because as it turns out, such a move would cost Quebec over $700 million, the difference between what Quebecers contribute and take out of the EI program." It just absolutely kills me to no end why Diane Findlay didn't give this numbnuts what she wanted, and save $700 million for the rest of us. I'd be more than delighted, in fact downright thrilled to pieces to dump $700 million of debt in Quebec's lap. Would have made Ms. Findlay a hero saving the federal taxpayer $700 million per year for all eternity. Boy, talk about missing the boat. Diane Findlay fell into the moat over THAT one!

    As mentioned in the article, the rest are just a cast of royal stumblebums! Either way, I'm not expecting any miracles from Philippe Couillard.

    Revoke Quebec equalization payments altogether. Giving these chimpanzees money is like giving a little kid a book of matches to play with!

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    1. C is a failing grade in graduate studies, perhaps that is what the Editor was thinking?

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    2. Yannick: The best grades were a "B" and a "C", so I guess "D" is the failing grade. I thought on "F" is for flunk or failure. "D" is marginal. Either way, it's not exactly a ringing endorsement.

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    3. In undergraduate studies, a D means you don't have to take the class again, but you will fail your degree if your average is not C or better. So a D is a sort-of pass, sort-of fail.

      Who knows?

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  5. Editor you shouldn't feel sorry for Leaf fans :D

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    1. The Habs are still my team notwithstanding everything else about Quebec, but I don't think they'll win another cup as long as you have this b.s. about the coach having to be a Francophone; too, the moronic media deters many players, French speaking or not, from coming to Montreal...oh...and then there are the taxes...Remember Guy Carbonneau when he came back as coach? He wanted his kids to get around having to go to French schools. Govvie said no dice!

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    2. Mississauga Guy,

      I have my doubt that for NHL players / coaches the restrictions to put their children in subsidized English-language school are such big hurdles. There are a number of private schools with English instructions that take no subsidy, and the teaching quality is excellent too. Anybody can send their children there as long as they pay all the fees and tuition. One example off the top of my head is Kuper Academy in Kirkland. For those involved in the NHL, I think the fees and tuition are peanuts.

      Now, I do not say that your story is false, but I think that many players and coaches blame the educational situation to hide the real reason why they do not want to go to Montreal.

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  6. LordDorchester

    The most astonishing thing is that even after 8 months of these buffoons in power they can still generate 28% support in the population according to the latest polls. How bad does it have to get before these people start looking at other political options? On matters regarding the economy, the PQ has done nothing to help Quebec. Take a drive along the Trans Canada on the island, nothing but A Louer signs. We've got a problem, the real money is leaving Quebec again and it's becoming increasingly harder to attract new investment here.

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    1. The draw of ethnic tribalism is greater then any logical argument.

      Symbolism over pragmatism.

      "Emotions" win over logic every time in Quebec.

      The govt has created with it's poor quality construction and allowing 30% to be skimmed off the top a constant supply of infrastructure work for the overpaid unions.

      "A Louer" only affects people with economy based jobs.

      Govt workers, construction unions, nursing unions, student unions etc. These jobs are there in an up or a down economy. This represents 40% of the population of Quebec alone. The PQ really need to get on top of the people in the above group NOT voting for them!

      This is why economic arguments have no foothold in Quebec. The large majority of the separatist voting population has no interaction or membership in the larger economy.

      No matter what any govt do this PQ voting block is still there protected.

      Sure after 50 years of bad economy maybe they can;t afford a metro line to the airport still.

      Why would they want to provide better public transportation for people mostly going to interact with the outside world and it's big ideas anyway?

      The real problem is thinking a metro line to the airport is needed!

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    2. "the real money is leaving Quebec again and it's becoming increasingly harder to attract new investment here."

      So it's becoming to think leaving Québec.

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    3. cebeuq - You nailed it..thats the truth..PQ supporters are the ones working for the unions, government - the ones who really have a job no matter what happens and a job guaranteed for life. Of course at some point Quebec will become Greece and then even these workers will be fired/see cutbacks. However these people think its impossible..they think Quebec is swimming in cash.

      PQ supporters would rather overpya local companies and accept widespread corruption than open up the work to outisde companies from Ontario and elsewhere. Basically they would rather have rampant corruption, dishonesty and horrible work done as long as its by the locals than to have things done well, on time and cheaper from an outside force. By opening up the market it would force Quebec companies to clean up their act and actually do a good job at a fair price..but we cant have that of course. No its better to keep the locals employed at all costs.

      What really amazes me is why so many companies are building condos in Montreal now??? Why would anybody invest so much money in this city at clearly a real estate top..it shows you just how dumb many of these real estate speculators are..there is going to be a hell of a deal on condos in a few years..they will be a dime a dozen and a lot of local real estate companies will go bust.

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    4. "Of course at some point Quebec will become Greece and then even these workers will be fired/see cutbacks"

      I can imagine that a "sovereign" Quebec would still be hitting Canada up for money. I'm sure they'd justify with something like "you still owe us, reparations!".

      YL: Go out and get yourself an education before trying to write in english. Don't worry about the money, you can always go protest if it costs more than your BS cheque.



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    5. Between 1966 and 1986 more than 220 000 Anglos and Ethnic-Anglos left Québec. How many next time?

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    6. LordDorchester

      Excellent analysis cebeuq. The question remains, how long can this house of cards remain standing? Will the New York bond markets pull the lynch pin or will it be the ROC ceasing transfer payments to subsidize life in la belle province? Quebec has built up its own White Collar job universe with borrowed equity and money from outside Quebec. When the money stop and the gravy train comes to an abrupt end, what will Quebec look like? Greece, 2.0? Either way, it won't be a pretty sight and those that rely on the State to survive will be left scrambling. Their quality of life will take a major haircut.

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    7. "How many next time?"

      Je crois que les anglo-Québécois d'aujourd'hui sont moins dynamiques et ont un peu moins de fierté que leurs prédecesseurs.Malheureusement,de ce fait,ils devraient être un peu moins nombreux à quitter :(

      Point positif: La plupart font l'effort de s'exprimer dans la langue Nationale du Québec :)

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    8. T'as raison S.R. Il faut saluer l'effort de tous ces Anglos qui utilisent le français dans leur vie quotidienne. Il faudrait par contre qu'ils se fassent valoir collectivement, car les Angryphones envoient une très mauvaise image de la communauté anglophone.

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    9. Vous avez bien raison. En fait, ça me fait penser aux vrais souverainistes, ceux pour qui le mouvement représentait plus que du simple racisme. Les vrais souverainistes ont lâché prise après le deuxième échec référendaire en 1995, et par la suite ils se sont adaptés à la réalité du Québec, sans avoir perdu leur langue ou leur culture. Aujourd'hui, ce sont des gens productifs qui contribuent à notre collectivité.

      Ceux qui se disent encore "souverainiste" aujourd'hui sont racistes, xénophobes, peu-instruits, sans vraies valeurs, et incapables de s'adapter au changement.

      Heureusement ces gens ne représentent qu'un très faible pourcentage de la population Québecoise. (moins que 30%?) Eux aussi envoient une très mauvaise image de leur communauté.

      (Huh what do you know, it works the other away around too..)

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    10. Attention! Il ne faut pas confondre taux d'appui à la souveraineté conjoncturel et taux d'appui structurel. Le taux structurel correspond grosso modo à celui du pourcentage de francophones qui se disent exclusivement Québécois ou Québécois d'abord. En 1980, le taux structurel était à 37%. En 1995, il était à 60%. Il est maintenant à 70%. (source JFL)

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    11. Nobody else is interested in the conquered people’s purely ethnocentric project but them. That is why they’ve always failed, keep failing and will always fail. :)

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    12. Le monde ne s'est jamais intéressé du sort des Blancs d'Afrique du Sud. Pensez-vous que le monde s'intéresse du sort de la minorité anglaise du Québec, la minorité la plus choyée de la Terre?

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    13. "Le monde ne s'est jamais intéressé du sort des Blancs d'Afrique du Sud."

      Jee-ZUZ!

      All I can say is hooray for the Y.L's of the monde.

      Seriously.

      Anyone who thinks the sovereignist movement has any chance of ever winning with these types supporting them, I say Fuggetaboutit.

      The comments coming out of Student, Y.L and S.R (read: Larry, Curly and Moe) are so inherently idiotic, they don't require a counter-attack.

      The potato-sack people are doing a good enough job of beating themselves up for us.

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    14. That is precisely the Editor’s intention in allowing such foolish comments to stay up for all to see. All that Quebec nationalists do is to keep parroting separatist dogma with the same foolish fervour of a born-again Christian, no matter how often their arguments are debunked, all the way to the grave.

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    15. Who cares about that toux structurel thingy...

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    16. "car les Angryphones envoient une très mauvaise image de la communauté anglophone."

      Parfaitement daccord Y.L,la majorité des anglos sont conscients de la situation du Québec en Amérique.La minorité extremiste risque de faire des dommages irréparables à l'ensemble de leur communauté.Je crois que c'est le devoir des bons anglos de stopper leurs éléments extrémistes avant qu'il ne soit trop tard.

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    17. @quebecker of tree stump

      "Les vrais souverainistes ont lâché prise après le deuxième échec référendaire en 1995..."

      real sovereignists are federalists?

      absurd spin. your argument doesn't fly.

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    18. So "stop" is a perfectly good French word... but not on "Stop" signs. The language crazies are SUCH hypocrites!

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    19. "So "stop" is a perfectly good French word... but not on "Stop" signs. The language crazies are SUCH hypocrites!"

      Thank you !!

      ps: and the word "Leadership" IS ALSO AN ENGLISH WORD

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    20. "Le monde ne s'est jamais intéressé du sort des Blancs d'Afrique du Sud. Pensez-vous que le monde s'intéresse du sort de la minorité anglaise du Québec, la minorité la plus choyée de la Terre?'


      Hahahahhahahahaha...good one...we're pampered now??...LOL LOL..LOL...PAMPER US LESS ...if this is your idea of pampering.

      Yeah...I'm also convinced that ..that monster in Cleveland thought he was 'pampering' those 3 girls too, just because he was feeding them and barely keeping them alive. So much so...that's he's pleaded Not-Guilty to the crimes of kidnaping and raping. But isn't that the usual "MO" of despicable oppressive tyrants and bullies? To think they do such good and they are never guilty for the pain and suffering they cause their victims. MMmm...pampered indeed...I THINK NOT!!

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    21. ".....stopper leurs éléments extrémistes avant qu'il ne soit trop tard."

      Add this one to the vocab: "STOPPER"

      You just can't help yourself ..can you...gloryhole...? LOL ...Those language purists must be...ohhhh...sooo proud !!! LOL

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    22. "So it's becoming to think leaving Québec"

      (This one is for Cutie:)

      How about YOU leave and WE stay !!

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    23. "How about YOU leave and WE stay"

      Ce n'est pas ce que les pauvres filles de Cleveland ont dit à leurs ravisseurs.

      :)

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    24. "Ce n'est pas ce que les pauvres filles de Cleveland ont dit à leurs ravisseurs"

      The practice of 'REACHING' can cause serious whiplash and can be hazardous to your health...but hey...knock yourself out!! LOL..

      (seriously...knock yourself out)

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  7. Jean-François Lisée = B ??
    You must be joking - right ?
    Here is a minister who's job it is to look after relations with the English community. Has M. Lisée done absolutely ANYTHING to make the English community feel part of Québec? NO! Has he listened to the concerns of the English community and addressed them ? NO! Has he convinced ANYONE in the English community that the Government is looking out for their best interests and recognizes the English presence and the obvious bilingual nature of Montréal which is clearly evident to everyone except all the Nationalists & politicians who only want Québec to be recognized as French? NO!

    This guy has failed in all aspects of his duties. Just because he's a smooth talker, doesn't mean he has succeeded in his post. Therefore M. Lisée only deserves an F !

    As for the rest, bang on.

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    1. I too don't give Lisee anything but a failing grade. All talk and no action. Polished but that's the depth of his commitment to the job he has been assigned. He keeps his temper but we all know he is after all a PQ and therefore the anglophone and allophone community mean nothing to him and he will do nothing to assist us. It's all for show and he's a good actor.

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    2. What he has accomplished, is getting criticized by supporters of his own party for his outreach to anglophones.

      Even the little he has done has been too much for the party faithful; there is no one better to exemplify that the PQ and Anglophones can never talk to each other.

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    3. Lisee has indeed done nothing and so deserves a passing grade.
      Compared to the other idiots in cabinet who actually do harm, it is a step up....

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    4. False
      He went there :
      http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2013/03/21/montreal-living-english-future-of-english-in-quebec-panel.html

      He also funded "Notre Home"

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    5. Top comments from that article:

      “There's just too much lip service with Jean-Francois Lisée and I sensed a martyr complex at play when he suggested that many people are hardwired to want him to fail. As a Quebec Anglophone who's proudly -- and committedly -- bilingual, am I supposed to simply *forget* all the xenophobic and (some would say) racist remarks that spewed from his own mouth prior to September 4th, 2012 and his subsequent appointment to the Minister Responsible for Anglophone Affairs portfolio? I'll only speak for myself but I am *not* a fuzzy animal in a petting zoo and I'm smart enough to recognize smarminess and disingenuousness when I see, read and hear it. Whatever Mr. Lisée's intentions are, they need to be matched by progressive-thinking policy and action for him to gain my trust *and* respect.”
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      “I am a fully bilingual Quebecer. First off I agree that the French culture is an important part of Quebec and there should be steps taken to ensure it stays that way. That being said, the PQ with Bill 14 is going way too far. Bill 101 already goes too far, especially with dealing with education. The moment you start to take the rights away from people to make decisions on their children’s education you have gone way too far. There are other parts of both bills that I don't agree with (Pastagate) but the education thing is by far the worst. Francophones in Quebec need to wake up and see these laws for what they are. It is one thing to want to preserve culture but you can't do it at the expense of what should be basic human rights.”
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      “When you think about it... there is no real solution. Regardless of what one does, one side will never be happy. Make Anglos/Allos equal in the eyes of the law in this province and you p---off the French hardliners (about 30% of the population). Make us second class citizens with laws, with the proposed Bill 14, and you tick us off.

      Not all Anglos/Allos can afford to leave and move to Ontario (or whatever). Many, if not most, are from this province. We have as many roots as many of these "pure-laine" Quebecers. So why are we "not welcomed". If I had a nickel for every time I was told to "go back home" I'd be a wealthy person. My family has nothing to do with this language issue. We didn't participate in any ill actions against the French so many generations ago that is the root of this conflict. So why are strangers pointing the finger at me (and others). I didn't "come here" to tick-off the French! I was born here.

      I know both languages, I went to French school. I have friends who speak both. What's so wrong with that? Yes I speak English to my children (for which I was publicly criticized for); I do it so they can learn the language half their family knows. Its culture, its heritage... and people criticize me for doing so. My wife speaks French to the kids, and guess what they both understand and speak both very very well.”
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      “Similar experience, I was having a private conversation in a public "German Oktoberfest" on top of everything else, when a man burst into our space and very loudly said, "Parlez français au Québec ou retournez chez vous!" Needless to say we were both flabbergasted.

      Recently in a large store, a young clerk, just trying to do her job, asked a client "en anglais ou francais?" and a man of a certain age practically shouted out to the whole store in an aggressive tone “En français, on est au Québec, pas au Canada !!!”

      Interesting that the zealots never seem to attack two people speaking Spanish, or Arabic, or another language, but only English... focussed racism?

      And yes, Anglos have as much history here as most Francophones, as Anglos settled entire regions and established towns throughout this province, but the true history is not an education strongpoint in Qc.”

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    6. "Lisee has indeed done nothing and so deserves a passing grade.
      Compared to the other idiots in cabinet who actually do harm, it is a step up..."

      Is this where the bar is set now? We reward people for .."doing nothing" ...sorry Editor....It's like the woman who settles for the guy who beats her...CAUSE SHE THINKS AND BELIEVES...she can't do any better, AND HE'S DOING NOTHING WRONG. It's not only sad...it's pathetic.

      And by the way...I give jf lisee a perfect ...# FAIL. We've got enough bozos in politics who serve up..lip service. He's unproductive and ineffective...#FAIL # FAIL !!!

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  8. The really pathetic part is that the hard core separatists don't care that every second house is for sale and that money is leaving quebec never to return plus no investment. I really don't know what it will take go get them to smarten up, if anything. Perhaps no groceries in the store or no gas at the pumps. The only people that are willing to move here and purchase a house now are people that truly think a separate quebec is a viable option and there are few of them. It's not just anglophones that are leaving; a lot of francophones are leaving for areas in Ontario that will gladly sell them a home and appreciate the fact that they are bilingual. Our area is the same with thousands of homes up for sale and no buyers - many are now being rented out to people that move here for the $7.00 day daycare but have no intention of investing one cent. It's quickly turning into a transient area rather than a place that people want to reside and make it their permanent home.

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    1. cebeuq is entirely correct, the economy is the last thing on a separatists mind. For your typical separatist, money is simply evil, and they have no problems admitting it. Is it any surprise that every single "successful" Québécois is hated by the seppies?

      Also, less investments means less foreign influence, which is a good thing. Once (anglo-owned) businesses close up shop, they can then be taken over by a fair and honest government, to give high-paying union-jobs to real Québécois! - this is the separatist dream, the "Hydro-Quebec Syndrome". (As long as someone else pays for it)

      That and the fact that separatists seem to want to live in some fantasy world where money doesn't matter, everyone has everything they need (for free), and everyone is equal and happy. It's a very noble dream, but it's completely unrealistic, and very selfish (paid for by future generations). The continuous demands for free tuition is a perfect example. Separatists seem to have a hard time understanding that the rest of the world won't conform to our way of doing things just because we say so.

      And finally, Cutie003, put yourself in the mind of a typical separatist. A drop in the real-estate market means they might eventually be able to afford one of those fancy houses in the west-island they've always complained about so much! Seems like a positive thing when you're living in government-funded low-income housing.

      The separatists must get really frustrated when they see that even immigrants do much better than them.. heh

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    2. We need to keep repeating this until the point gets across.

      Separatists are little more than terminal losers who are destined to a life of chronic underachievement and longing.

      They'll never grasp the idea that as citizens of a first world country, they have all the avenues necessary to empower themselves and change both their class status and their direction of their future generations.

      I've previous pointed out what wee're all discussing here:

      They simply don't possess the ambition and acumen to acquire successful businesses and high-quality homes. Really folks, if you have any doubt, it only takes one look at a popular Hollywood movie to see what will happen.

      Go rent Dark Knight Rising and zip over to the part where Bane turns control of Gotham over to convicts and other assorted dregs.

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    3. Oui daccord mais l'idée de prendre la route vers le canada ne vous a jamais effleuré l'esprit?

      Juste comme ça en passant:)

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    4. "They simply don't possess the ambition and acumen to acquire successful businesses and high-quality homes."

      Many separatists are capitalist minded. The quiet revolution was in many ways a take-over of business by francophones, the economic turning of the tables was the major aim of the quiet revolution despite noble mystification surrounding that event.

      What is Quebec's prime minister, but not a socialist in words but a capitalist at heart? Marois paid a visit to Davos recently, went to New York, sent her trusted guy to New York (Boisclair), and then sent her minister there to kiss Wall Street's ass. Not that she had a choice either. As every "leader" in the world, she knows who runs things.

      The language issue that occasionally seems to infringe on business is really blown out of proportion. As Editor pointed out, if a major company's well-being is threatened by language politics, the OQLF will be ordered to back off, ordered to grant "dispensation" to the company, and move on to smaller fish (depanneurs, small store run by immigrants, etc...). The point of language politics is not (and has never been) to destroy a business, it is to give priority to that business to "our guys". If business was ever driven out (as Sun Life headquarters), it was an unintended consequence. Since then, the pequistes have learned their lessons, and now they issue waivers to prevent businesses from leaving.

      As Quebec journalist/propagandist Isabelle Maréchal lets it slip at 11:58 - "On est capitalist". Despite pretending otherwise sometimes, that's what they are.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oTU7PShvWY

      Or check out a major separatist frothing about Quebec being a potential oil producing power. For a self-proclaimed leftist, he is really blurring the lines here.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB2ISV7gDq0

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    5. Isabelle Maréchal: "On est capitalist, on est pour le libre marché"

      Seps don't want to drive your business out. They want to drive you out. But that's a different thing.

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    6. cutie - Think about it..many Quebecers..the pur-laine seperatists dont care about house prices. They dont care because they will never leave Quebec..they are the ones who dont speak english so they are eternally stuck here. They are the ones who work for the government, the unions - who have a job for life..the lower the price of homes the better for them as they can get a good deal on buying one. 7 dollar a day daycare is great for them..they have cheap housing, cheap daycare - a job for life and they dont even have to work much in their protected job. For many pur-laine Quebecois thats the dream..they just dont realize that one day it will all come crashing down abruptly the day Quebec goes bankrupt. And all those anglos selling and leaving is exactly what they want..they can scoop up more cheap houses..they get rid of more annoying anglos..its a win-win for them. The only people that care about home prices are the anglos because they may have to leave at some point and they will often have to sell their house much lower than they expected.

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    7. "For many pur-laine Quebecois thats the dream"

      Isn't this everyone's dream though? It is mine. After years of bait and switch on the professional market, I wouldn't mind some of that stability that many Quebecois enjoy thanks to their state, even though it will not last forever.

      That Quebec doles out the goodies based on ethnicity (and allegiance), and that much of that wealth is covered by transfer payments from the rest of the country (i.e. wrestled out through most vulgar blackmail - give us $$$ or we leave) can't obscure the fact that we would all like to have that level of stability. But we don't, many Quebeckers don't either, and those in the public sector who do won't have it forever.


      "They are the ones who work for the government, the unions - who have a job for life"

      They have it for life? I don't think so. Neither do you, since you follow up with: ""they just dont realize that one day it will all come crashing down abruptly the day Quebec goes bankrupt"

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    8. adski - No it is not everyones dream. There are many people who couldnt stand working for a bureaucracy in which many of the rules in the real world dont apply. There are many people who want more than working for the government..who dream big and are willing to work hard to achieve something more than just a government job for life. Tghere are people wont want to run their own small business..others who want to climb the corporate ladder..others who want to travel the world..not everyone dreams of a government job but here in Quebec many do. They have been conditioned to be taken care of by the state and to be do the bare minimum and live the good life..it works for awhile..in fact its worked for at least 50 years so for many people they have had a job for life..but at some point many of these jobs for life will disappear and there will be much gnashing of teeth.

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    9. "There are many people who want more than working for the government..who dream big"

      No doubt.

      "but at some point many of these jobs for life will disappear and there will be much gnashing of teeth"

      In the government and also in the private sector. People's decadent lives are bound to end. Consumption-driven society must fall, whether it's under state or corporate control.

      "others who want to climb the corporate ladder"

      There are people like that in my company. In good old days, these people were called ass kissers. Today, they're young bright prospects. In most cases however, enthusiasm is all they've got. Skill and character are secondary, personality and presentation are key.

      "others who want to travel the world"

      Who doesn't.

      "They have been conditioned to be taken care of by the state and to be do the bare minimum and live the good life"

      Everybody has been conditioned to do something. Americans for example have been conditioned to chase the fiction called "American Dream", with the help of something called positive thinking.

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    10. adski - Dont get me wrong..I am not a fan of the american system either by any stretch. I think most of Canada has it about right..Quebec is way way too the left and is a ticking time bomb..the USA has let the banks and large corporations completely take over the government to the detriment of most people. Europe for the most part is in about the same position as Quebec but in the end most Europeans are better educated, more creative and more pragmatic than the typical Quebecois who thinks money grows on trees. So even though Europe has many woes now I think they still have more potential in the end than Quebec.

      The problems with Quebec is that too many people are trying to take advantage of the system - there is a culture of people who see no problem in lying and cheating to get what they want from government and from others. The moral fibre of this place is unravelling and once you lose morality then you arent too far away from total collapse. Its not so much the corruption that bothers me than the acceptance of it by most people because in the end too many people are involved in this type of behaviour on a regular basis.

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    11. @complicated

      "Its not so much the corruption that bothers me than the acceptance of it by most people..."

      that's absurd. bad faith wall to wall. quebec population "accept" corruption so much that there were only 80% of them to call for a public enquiry to rid themselves of the cancer.

      think before you type, mate.

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    12. One has to wonder if these separatists that are going to buy these nice larger homes at dirt prices are going to be willing to pay the same rate of tax on the properties that the anglos are now paying. I know I'm not - As my house value drops, so should the taxes that I pay on it every year. Makes no sense to pay tax on a house valued at $70,000 or $80,000 dollars less than it was and the city still expecting to keep the value at the same rate on which to tax it.

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    13. student - Have you lived anywhere else in Canada for an extended period of time?? I have and I can tell you I see examples literally every day at least in Montreal of people acting dishonestly..its a way of life here. I bet you this whole Charbonneau commision ends and nothing changes..there have been comissions before in Quebec and nothing changed. People in the rest of Canada would be absolutely up in arms over the corruption stories we have heard. I havent seen one protes on the streets of Montreal about this..most people I know just shrug and say thats the way it is here. People are so apathetio..because so many are already ripping off the system one way or another. How many people in Quebec pay cash for services..never seen anywhere else in Canada doing this. How come the level of sick leave is two-three times higher than elsehwere in Canada..I have seen it at various workplaces. How come I have seen on numerous occasions roads being dug up and repaired..then a few weeks/months later dug up again..and even again on some occasions..never seen this anywhere else..is it incompetence or done on purpose..you tell me student?? How come we can get 100,00 students to shut the city down when they are paying the lowest tuition fees in Canada..how come these same students have money to go to the south on vacation..many have smart phones..many have designer clothers..they eat out all the time..how come they cant afford to spend another 1000 dollars/year on tuition..even then it would be the lowest in Canada. These same students deliberately manipulate votes..ignoring the majority of students who didnt agree with the strikes. How come teachers in high school are telling their students to support the student protests..teachers??? Why are city of Montreal employees sleeping in their trucks or spending half the day shopping or plowing sidewalks with no snow on them???? student..travel around the country a bit and live elsewhere in canada and you wont see the non-stop crap that we see here in Montreal..people in this city are often actively participating in corruption or dishonesty or trying to game the system to their advantage. And in the end nobody seems to care..you obviously dont..the cancer has spread too far..practically everyone is in on it.

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    14. @ Complicated

      Early in the year we were invited over to a friend for dinner and his sister and brother-in-law were there visiting for the weekend. This couple will often participate at those war reenactments that are so popular in Quebec City. When I asked why he does it, he answered cause it's fun, and you meet people. When I asked him why he thought the French lost the war, he told me something very interesting. He said that the English were preoccupied with conquering Land but the French were preoccupied with Fur pelts... he said..."In essence..Greed" !! According to him that is why the French lost the war...(as our buddy R.E always says)..."nuff said"....

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    15. Your friend does not have a very good understanding of history. The reason France lost the war was its weakness in naval power, which prevented them from sending badly-needed supplies to its colonies later in the war, especially after the loss of Quiberon Bay which destroyed the major part of the French navy.

      It also came from their belief that the war would be won or lost in Europe, and to treat the colonies as secondary theatres. In contrast, William Pitt (the prime minister of the UK at that time) pursued a "Canada first" strategy aggressively, supporting the war on the continent only through subsidies. France had some victories in Europe, but not enough to overturn its defeats abroad.

      There was also an epidemic of small-pox which had a hard toll on the native allies of the French; when they stopped supporting France, the defense of Canada suffered greatly.

      France was not any more or any less interested in furs than the british. The british trade system was based in the hudson's bay, and not in New-England. The reason New England had such a large population was because of their more enlightened policy of putting religious minorities there to stop them from being a bother at home. France, in contrast, wanted heretics neither at home nor in its colonies.

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    16. @Yannick

      Vraiment intéressant.Des études en histoires?

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    17. L'histoire est ma passion, mais ça ne paye pas les factures, donc j'ai sûrtout étudié les sciences.

      Mais j'ai lû de nombreux bouquins sur l'histoire de la nouvelle-france, la traite des fourrures dans l'Ouest Canadien, l'histoire du Canada, et autres.

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    18. "Your friend does not have a very good understanding of history"

      I asked for his opinion and he gave me his opinion. What do facts matter in history anymore today? LOL It seems to be quite the fashion to attach one's own interpretation to history nowadays; most especially right here in Quebec. Revisionist history is the norm. FACTS are no longer relevant, haven't you heard? They are spun through's someone's subjective perspective...all the time.

      "I thought this was common knowledge" LOL

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    19. @anectote

      "Revisionist history is the norm. FACTS are no longer relevant, haven't you heard? They are spun through's someone's subjective perspective...all the time."

      give examples.

      "L'histoire est ma passion..."

      check out this site: http://jcoupal.blogspot.ca/

      the dude's clever.

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    20. Well Annectote, how's this for facts? If the loss of Canada is really due to the fur trade, what is the excuse for the loss of today's Guadeloupe, Senegal, and India (except for Pondicherry) in the same war?

      The factors that affected all of those equally are the ones I mentionned above, except for the smallpox epidemic of course.

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    21. @complicated

      "People in the rest of Canada would be absolutely up in arms over the corruption stories we have heard."

      really? why isn't there an inquiry over clemet's budget, or g20 billion$, or the firearm registry thing? the money didn't just evaporate, mate. anglo canada is just more tolerant to corruption it seems.

      "most people I know just shrug and say thats the way it is here."

      most people i know thought it was scandalous that charest waited two years before launching the inquiry. your friends are low quality. or so it seems.

      "How come the level of sick leave is two-three times higher than elsehwere in Canada."

      prove it.

      "How come we can get 100,00 students to shut the city down when they are paying the lowest tuition fees in Canada..."

      because quebec students are less apathetic.

      "how come these same students have money to go to the south on vacation..."

      going on holidays and wishing higher education to be more accessible for all are not incompatible concepts.

      "...many have smart phones.."

      same. it's not incoherent to own a smartphone and consider the current scheme to be a fair deal between "society" and the student.

      "...many have designer clothers."

      idem. you are being ridiculous, now. will you also come up with the famous richard martineau gaffe: they're going out all the time?

      "...they eat out all the time."

      (facepalm)

      "...how come they cant afford to spend another 1000 dollars/year on tuition..."

      for the same reason you don't have an extra thousand for public education. and you have a phone, fancy clothes and go on holidays!

      "These same students deliberately manipulate votes..ignoring the majority of students who didnt agree with the strikes. How come teachers in high school are telling their students to support the student protests..teachers?"

      i don't believe this. back it up.

      "Why are city of Montreal employees sleeping in their trucks or spending half the day shopping or plowing sidewalks with no snow on them?"

      are you trying to tell me there are no lazy employees in saskatoon, sarnia or kamloops?!? i don't agree. and the snow truck going around with no snow was having his training. you are gullible.

      "And in the end nobody seems to care..."

      that's false. did you see 85% of montreal population knows that their mayor is applebaum? that's the highest number ever. how do you explain this? here how: people watch the charbonneau commission. they care.

      "the cancer has spread too far..practically everyone is in on it."

      paranoid.

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    22. "really? why isn't there an inquiry over clemet's budget, or g20 billion$, or the firearm registry thing? the money didn't just evaporate, mate. anglo canada is just more tolerant to corruption it seems."

      Total bs on your part. There is mismanagement of money everywhere but the blatant corruption here is on another level. Envelopes with money moving back and forth..city employees going on fancy trips with construction bosses..


      "most people i know thought it was scandalous that charest waited two years before launching the inquiry. your friends are low quality. or so it seems."

      If people were so concerned why arent they marching on the streets?? How come your student friends are not marching on the streets in the thousands over this..ohI forgot I guess its because there is no extra money in it for them..they are just more leeches who want someone else to pay for their lifestyle.


      "because quebec students are less apathetic."

      Because these students are leeches and only care about themselves..they have no respect for democracy or the people paying for the luxury of their post secondary studies.

      "for the same reason you don't have an extra thousand for public education. and you have a phone, fancy clothes and go on holidays!"

      Quebec taxpayers already pay 85 percent of the cost of post secondary education..we already pay far too much. Instead of thanking us students try to shut down the city, hurt businesses who pay their tution fees, block other students from going to school. Quebec students pay the lowest tuition fees in north america..they should be thanking everyone instead of acting like spoiled brats. That is what happens when society provides too much to a group..they start to think they deserve it and more..the leftist quebec government created a monster.


      "are you trying to tell me there are no lazy employees in saskatoon, sarnia or kamloops?!? i don't agree. and the snow truck going around with no snow was having his training. you are gullible."

      Yes I am. I have lived in 7 cities in this country and have never seen anything close to the abuses that go on here by city employees. Training - uhhuh..right..you are the gullible one..why would you put a metal blade down on bare concrete??? Maybe they were trying to damage the sidewalks and/or machine to create work for some other union buddy..that might be closer to the truth. You need to live elsewhere for awhile and see how the rest of the country works..you would be surprised how efficient, friendly and honest most people are in these other cities.

      "that's false. did you see 85% of montreal population knows that their mayor is applebaum? that's the highest number ever. how do you explain this? here how: people watch the charbonneau commission. they care."

      Its pure entertainment..its like watching the sopranos or a soap opera. People love it..nothing will change..most people are probably taking notes on how to better rip off the system.







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  9. "In a cabinet rife with rabid anglophobes, Lisée is perhaps the one moderating influence and is in fact the only one who has reached out to the community"

    Perhaps, but I doubt it.

    "He has a confident smile and a respectful tone, a quick wit and a positive attitude, something sorely lacking in Pauline's grim coterie of dismal hacks. "

    It's part of his act.

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    1. I agree with the editor on this one - Mr.Lisee is the only minister that seems to have the talent, ability and intelligence to pull off the job. Perhaps he comes across as phony..but overall he is trying. I am not sure what a minister from the PQ would have to do to win over anglophones anyway..he is about as accomodating a PQ minuster as I have seen. If you expect him to just give anglos whatever they want then I guess many here will give them all a failing grade.

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    2. As I said, he's a good actor - no more, no less. He doesn't care a whit about the anglophone community even though he pretends he does. And I also agree that the seppies care nothing about real estate values because they have no intention of ever leaving quebec. I've said this in the past - just another way to steal houses and land that rightfully belong(ed) to Canadians. Acknowledging this does make it any better - the economy still suffers and will continue to do so as long as these people have any power whatsoever.

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    3. Well Cutie again the choice is yours..you can cut your losses now and just leave. Yeah you will take a hit on your house but then you will have freedom..sometimes freedom is priceless. There are many places in Canada where you can buy a decent house at pretty low prices. I dont know why so many anglos..especially those who are retired stay in Quebec. When you are retired then you can live anywhere..you dont need to stay for work. Yes you probably lived all your life in Quebec..but at some point is it worth all the anguish and stress?? I have only lived here a decade and I can barely stand it.

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    4. I'm going to repeat - If I could leave here I most certainly would and would be more than happy to do so at this point. Unfortunately I cannot do so at this time. It is just too difficult to get federalists to take action on their OWN behalf and therefore I am assuming that they really don't give a shit about their rights and freedoms - not enough to speak and act on behalf of their country, their families, their businesses anyway. Mr. Sauga is right about that, unfortunately for the country, but especially for this doomed province. Out of all the federalists that participate to this blog, I think there are about five of us that have done anything other than bitch here - At least that openly state that they write to papers, magazines, MNAs or the federal government concerning what is really going on with the politics in quebec. That is sad for democracy and certainly does not bode well for our communities. Unless all of us participate in these efforts nothing will change and more and more "no" votes will leave the province to the separatists which is just what they want anyway. And you may seem like a nice guy and all that but people like you encouraging us to leave is part of the problem. You should be fighting for people to remain and take action. Hate to say it but there it is - you might just as well be a separatist because you are helping them get exactly what they want.

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    5. Good point, Complicated. Heck when my employer agrees to transfer me to Toronto and pay my moving fees, I will be happy. Heck, I worked two months in Toronto as a temp worker, and I liked it much more. This province is going down the drain and nothing can change it.

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    6. And unfortunately Liam you are just the type we need to stay to help us in the battle but I would be dishonest if I said I disagree with your decision to leave should you get the opportunity. You have to look after yourself and your family first of all - that's what's important in this life not the political mess that quebec has become and will continue to be far into the future by the looks of it. I don't blame you or anyone for leaving at this point in time - If we can't even get our own community to fight for our cause then may as well pack it in and enjoy your life without this on-going stone dragging you down with those of us that can't leave right now.

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    7. Well I do feel sad for the anglos that have to stay in Quebec. I assume in your case Cutie that it is more than just the money..there must be another more personal reason which cannot be easily resolved. I have similar reasons but I do hope maybe in a few years I might be able to leave..time will tell. I have accepted that the value of my home will likely drop a fair bit over the next few years..but it will drop elsewhere in Canada slso. I do agree that the anglo community and canada in general have done nothing to stand up for the rights of anglophones in this province. I can accept most of Bill 101..but I do have problems with the fact that french must be larger than english and the oqlf running around harassing small business owners. On the other hand I also understand why so many francophones revolted back in the 60s and 70s against the arrogance/indifference of the minority anglo population but I think it has gone too far now. The pendulum has now swung in the opposite direction..now it seems that seperatists are just trying to make anglos lives miserable now and strip away even more rights away from us. And there is so much ignorance on the seperatist side..the same old narrative about the rich anglos running everything when in reality many anglos are not rich and many francos are the ones running the show here.

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    8. @complicated

      "I can accept most of Bill 101..but I do have problems with (...) the oqlf running around harassing small business owners."

      they wouldn't need to go after business owners if these respected bill 101 like you do. you accept it, so you must think it's fair. why don't you put the blame on business owners that fight a fair thing, then?

      "...and strip away even more rights away from us."

      what rights are separatists trying to strip away from you complicated?

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    9. Totalement en accord student.

      Est-ce qu'ils engueulent le policier quand il leur colle un billet de 250$ pour vitesse excessive?

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    10. "they wouldn't need to go after business owners if these respected bill 101 like you do. you accept it, so you must think it's fair. why don't you put the blame on business owners that fight a fair thing, then?"

      Bill 101 is an illegitimate law. It should never ever have been passed. Bill 14 is an illegitimate bill, it should never ever see the light of day.

      Excessive speed kills and laws against that are legitimate. Laws that discriminate and marginalize are illegitimate. BIG DIFFERENCE

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    11. student/sr - You are both hiding behind the "its a law" argument. Its a law that only was able to come into existence because Quebec used some obscure notwithstanding clause. Its a law that strips away rights from anglo-canadians who happen to live in quebec. Its an unjust law that was not challenged by the canadian government because they were too scared that Quebec would seperate. In the end the Canadian government should have done the right thing and said this law is illegal under canadian law. Both english and french apparently have the same rights across the country but clearly english is treated as an inferior language in Quebec when you need to put english writing smaller than franch writing and even in municipalities where most people are anglophones..thats really vindictive and cheap on the part of the quebec government. And then you any company with more than 50 employees must operate in french..again that is no business of the government..many companies deal most of the time with anglohphones..why should they be forced to use french. On the other hand many francophones living elsewhere in Canada dont really have many rights to use their language either..although if a francophone wanted to put a sign up only in french anywhere in Canada he could. I recall in Calgary a french bookstore with wording pretty well all in french..nobody cared beacause it was a french bookstore.
      Bill 101 is clearly a vindictive revenge tactic used by frustrated francophones who feel that they have neen eternally abused by the anglos and all bad things in their lives are because of the anglos.


      Bill 14 wants to take away bilingual rights from municipalites that dont meed some threshold..its another way of stripping rights away from anglophones. Bill 14 wants to force small businesses to conduct their business in french only..this is total crap..since when does the government interfere into private businessnes. If a private business deals mostly with english clients they should bloody well have the right to do so..its none of the governments business. If a company wants to do business in french only in the rest of canada they can do so..the government does not interfere. When a government starts interfering in peoples lives to this point then its time to get very concerned..they should be focusing on improving health care, education, maintaining bridges/roads properly, etc and not running around dictating to honest hard working citizens what language they should be speaking. Its literally a farce..its almost comical yet its reality here.


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    12. Complicated: "I am not sure what a minister from the PQ would have to do to win over anglophones anyway"

      He/she could start by refraining from spewing out nonsense, like Lisee did rather actively all the way to the election last year, with his L'Actualite article being the high point. ("dude, what did he write in that article that was so bad? back up your arguments with examples"... I can almost hear student chiming in).

      In general, even the least outspoken and the most quiet pequiste will have trouble winning over anglos/allos simply because of the fact that the PQ is by definition antagonistic to anglos/allos, and is open about promoting the interests of another ethno-lingusiitc group (it's an ethnic nationalist party, in other words). So one would need to start by not joining the PQ in order to win anglophones (and allophones) over.


      Complicated: "Mr.Lisee is the only minister that seems to have the talent, ability and intelligence to pull off the job. Perhaps he comes across as phony..but overall he is trying"

      That's very nice of him.

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    13. "Mr.Lisee is the only minister that seems to have the talent, ability and intelligence to pull off the job. Perhaps he comes across as phony..but overall he is trying"

      He comes across as phony...BECAUSE HE IS PHONY! What's that expression?? If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...chances are...IT IS A DUCK !!

      Some have astutely pointed out, that mister lisee quacked up quite a storm before the elections, with regards to anglos. Ultimately, those are his true feelings. I don't consider that just because he can speak English better than most from the PQ...he's actually intelligent or talented. I don't know about anyone else...but everything I see him on TV...he just bugs the hell outa me...with that..phony phony smirk...I ain't buyin' what he's sellin'...sorry...polished English or no polished English...(..mm..but gimme a sec...I'll tell ya how i really feel...LOL)

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    14. Lets put it this way - I am not awestruck by Mr.Lisee but he does stand out when compared to all the other ministers who are really awful. Yes he is a charmer..but I give him credit in the sense that he is a polished politician who is fairly intelligent, charming, well spoken, a reasonably good listener and overall polite. Does that mean he is going to fight for anglo rights..no of course not..he is in the PQ but they could have chosen a lot worse than him.

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    15. "he is a polished politician who is fairly intelligent, charming, well spoken, a reasonably good listener and overall polite"

      Hallmark traits of psychopaths:

      Superficial charm and average intelligence
      Absence of delusions and other signs of irrational thinking
      Absence of nervousness or neurotic manifestations
      Unreliability
      Untruthfulness and insincerity
      Lack of remorse or shame
      Pathological egocentricity
      General poverty in major affective reactions
      Unresponsiveness in general interpersonal relations

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    16. @complicated

      I think his presence does nor harm than good. This false idea that he is looking after the interest of the Anglos...who are we kidding?? And we are paying him a salary for this mockery...It's Theatre...and bad theatre at that...

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    17. "Does that mean he is going to fight for anglo rights..no of course not"

      Noone expects anything from him. Most people would like the end to this charade though.

      What is the point of his position anyways? If he is not going to help out those with whom he is supposed to liaison, what is his role? To communicate government's decisions? A government spokesman could do this, unless the decisions are expected to be so controversial that you need someone with superficial charm to sell them.

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    18. What is the point of an "outreach", real or imagined?

      Well, if it succeeds, then the PQ gets to say that it has conciliated its fiercest opponents, the anglophones.

      If it fails, the PQ gets to say that it tried, and that the anglophones were deaf to their pleas.

      Win-win for them, really.

      As I've mentioned before, no matter what his previous opinions were, he has at least been doing enough outreach to be derided as a sellout by many of his erstwhile supporters.

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  10. "There's no polite way of saying it, the Minister of Natural Resources, Martine Ouellet is an idiot, a dangerous fool who doesn't even understand the difference between money spent and money saved. "

    Maybe she is. She is also known to attend functions at the SSJB headquarters, and has been photographed in the company of Mario Beulieau several times. So she is ideologically correct and in line with the PQ (whether opportunistically or out of conviction, I don't know), and has been aptly rewarded with a cabinet post.

    However, I do take anything that NoDogs writes about natural resources and environment with a huge dose of skepticism. I have come to suspect that NoDogs Editor has a personal stake in this (profits to gain through business connections).

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    1. "I have come to suspect that NoDogs Editor has a personal stake in this (profits to gain through business connections)."
      I don't often intervene in the comments section, but to let pass such a blatant attack on my honesty would give credence to the scurrilous allegations made without any justification at all.
      I am actually surprised by the low road you have chosen in order to attack my credibility.

      I do not have any interest in natural resource stocks, nor do I work, consult or in any manner have a stake.
      I don't think you (Adski) would appreciate me calling you a supporter of terrorism because you supports Palestinian rights.
      Gratuitously casting aspersions based only on the fact that you disagree with my point of view, is dishonest and cheap.

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    2. Editor - While I sympathize with you in the sense that you probably were unfairly attacked..why do you have to bring up the Palestinian/Israeli conflict?? Why does that topic always seem to pop up here..sorry but to be fair the Israeli army could easily be classified as a terrorist organization also..I suppose that doesnt sit well with you does it. I suggest you keep Middle Eastern politics out of this blog.

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    3. It is Adski that brings up his position favouring the Palestinians from time to time.
      I respect his opinion and he is free to support anyone he wants, here on this blog and elsewhere.
      The only point I was making is that just because he supports the Palestinians, doesn't make him 'invested' or someone with a hidden agenda.
      Would he appreciate it if I gratuitously suggested that he is probably a whining Palestinian hiding a secret agenda to destroy Israel?

      If I object to Martine Ouellet or call her stupid, it doesn't follow that I am acting as a spokesman for the oil industry or that I am protecting my investments. (which I am certainly not)
      To make that assertion on a hunch or without a shred of evidence is pure character assassination. Low blow....

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    4. "If I object to Martine Ouellet or call her stupid, it doesn't follow that I am acting as a spokesman for the oil industry or that I am protecting my investments. (which I am certainly not)"
      environmentalist will always attempt to use such an argument like this to disqualify their opponent. Exactly what happened to Bouchard. Every time he said something he was labelled a pro-oil supporter. What does it have to do with the fact someone represents an industry. My neighbour brother represents an Ontario mining company, it doesn't render his opinion invalid.

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      I don't understand how anyone could question our Editor's honesty. Just reading his posts over the last six months has always impressed me with his openess and fair sense of play. Even questioning things he would have preferred not to.
      His remarks were directed at Adski but I feel his words should be accepted as read. Ed

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    6. @liam

      "My neighbour brother represents an Ontario mining company, it doesn't render his opinion invalid."

      no, but you'd better doubt what he says when he comes with a drill to your house and garantees you won't feel a thing.

      you are very naive liam.

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    7. Dudent: "you are very naive liam."
      Yet another puerile comment from Dudent. The endless parade of juvenile comments is why I have trouble believing you could possibly be over 16, unless you're very immature. Grow up.

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    8. "Dudent: "you are very naive liam."
      Yet another puerile comment from Dudent. The endless parade of juvenile comments is why I have trouble believing you could possibly be over 16, unless you're very immature. Grow up."

      I say he's one of those high school drop outs that this province is infamous for...would explain the irony of his chosen...handle.."student".

      Also, I suspect ...that Pinstripe's written French is very poor. That is why he never writes anything in French. I don't buy his preoccupation that 'others' will not understand...hahahhahahahah...it's actually funny...that he hid behind that lame excuse. He cares about the Anglos on this blog as much as glory hole and the other little troll yl. PAAALLLLEEEESEEEEE

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  11. "I have come to suspect that NoDogs Editor has a personal stake in this (profits to gain through business connections)."

    While I don't deny that your suspicion carries weight, I'd venture to say that perhaps the Editor is just fed up with a the hypocrisy that is bound to the taboo of natural resources in this province. For instance, take Daniel Breton.

    We're supposed to believe that this lump of a man is a devout environmentalist who is deeply passionate about protecting Mother Earth (like so many seppies arrogantly claim to be)...only for us to discover that this loser was driving around in a Porsche at 225 km/h. So much for being concerned with the environment.

    Further, Quebec is abundant in many natural resources that could help alleviate the provincial debt, create more jobs and maybe (with the right government in place), lead to lower taxes.

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    1. "We're supposed to believe that this lump of a man is a devout environmentalist who is deeply passionate about protecting Mother Earth..."

      of course he is. he spent the last fifteen years doing just that.

      "...for us to discover that this loser was driving around in a Porsche at 225 km/h. So much for being concerned with the environment."

      it was 275km/h. that was 30 years ago. he grew up since. it's irrelevant now. will you follow his example and grow up too resident evil?

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    2. There really is no end to your hypocrisy, is there?

      Like I said before, THIS is why your movement is tanking.

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    3. It's just amazing how these seppies can explain or excuse EVERY bad decision, act, deception, outright lie put forward by their politicians. They have to be paid for this. No one in their right mind can really excuse all this stuff day in and out unless they are paid to do so. It just isn't possible to be this stupid!

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  12. La Commission doute de la crédibilité de Gaétan Turbide

    http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/dossiers/commission-charbonneau/201305/15/01-4651008-la-commission-doute-de-la-credibilite-de-gaetan-turbide.php

    Plus rien ne me surprend de la part des "liberals".

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  13. The majority of seppies have no understanding of economy. Minister Marceau, while a great academic, and make no mistake, I agree we need academia, has no real understanding of the economy. To his credit, Minister Bachand had served in the private sector.
    Now, the worst case, Minister Ouillet, has proven to be stupid beyond imaginable. Seriously, if you can't realize the difference between a subsidy and a loan guarantee you shouldn't even be in Parliament.
    Minister Lisee, is one arrogant jerk, if you ask me. Before being in government, he wrote in Actualite to ban english schools. He was also a close advisor to Parizeau during the referendum. This guy is a complete joke. As soon as he gets a majority, you can be sure he will abandon the pretense of collaboration.
    Another complete moron, is Minister Hebert. Heck, this guy has the audicity to stop planned hospital building in Vaudreuil for the sake of balancing the sake of balancing the budget. Even this Minister is a completely delusional. He stopped a 200$ Health premium for the sake of political partisanship. Ontario premium can go to 900$ Give me a break, this guy is a complete moron.
    Good for Minister Findlay to shut the door on Minister Maltais. We need EI reform in those god damn Quebecker and acadian communities. Heck, Newfoundland, PEI and Nova Scotia closed many of their unprofitable fisheries. Why shouldn't Quebec? Give me a break.
    Heck all of those Minister are incompetent are living in a fantasy world.

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    1. Those that can do, those that can;t teach.

      In every other country a govt job is the most boring drudgery. The best and brightest don;t join the govt anywhere(except France).

      In quebec these leaves us with the worst bunch of second class intellectuals.

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    2. Well, I always disagree with: Those that can do, those that can't teach. Before, I was in grade 9, I sucked in math. In grade 9, I had this retired accountant as a math teacher. He was great. Truly, enjoined his class and understood it very well. We need teachers and sometimes former professional are the best. Now, while we have to make sure young teacher have a place in the system, too but a place should be made for retired professional.

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    3. I spent 8 years in university sciences/engineering and math.

      5% of my professors were "retired professionals". The rest are academic "lifers".

      In fact I know several people that went on to become university professors simply because they felt it was a way to make reasonable money and not have to work. Their only fear was they would end up at a second rate Quebec university/diploma mill instead of a major Canadian/US/European university.

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    4. In my opinion the best politicians would be small business people. They know how the real world works..they know how to count..they are multi-taskers..very hard working..typically have more integrity than any other group..essentially they can get the job done as efficiently as possible. Margaret Thatcher grew up in a family that operated a small store and she was a big believer in helpig small business thrive..she was one of the few poltiicians out there with integrity. You can call her a bully and all sorts of names but we knew where she stood.
      We need to get rid of lawyers and lifetime politicians from the system and academics..they are typically over-glorified intellect who dont have an ounce of common sense and dont have a clue how the real world works but can dazzle everyone with their fanciful theories and their sharp tongues. Unfortunately most voters fall for the smooth talkers.

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    5. Speaking of small business owners and knowing how the real world works, listen to the story of this small business owner. She explains the steps she has to take by hiding items because the OQLF is trying to sabotage her bilingual specialty pastry shop, because they think it “threatens” French in Quebec. If you didn’t know better, you would swear that this is a parody… but it’s not. It’s really pathetic:

      http://youtu.be/L5DvA4pASr0

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    6. Quand même incroyable que ces commerçants ne connaissent pas la loi...

      D'un autre coté...Les coffres de l'OQLF vous remercient :)

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    7. "D'un autre coté...Les coffres de l'OQLF vous remercient :)"

      I always found it ironic that those who purport to hate what money symbolizes jump (like primates) at any chance they get to steal it from those who actually know how to make it.

      If it wasn't for the Anglos, S.R would be in jail. Know why?

      Because their taxes pay for the child support he can't afford on a welfare check.

      Wonder what living that kind of life is like?

      Actually, no I don't.

      In life, make decisions...and S.R follows orders. God I love Darwinism :-)

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    8. "Wonder what living that kind of life is like?"

      Hé bien...C'est merveilleux!

      Je ne déteste pas l'argent Ti-Rez sauf que,contrairement à vous,je n'en suis pas esclave.

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    9. "je n'en suis pas esclave"

      When you live on subsidies, you're everyone's slave.

      Now go make me some pasta, Monsieur Petit Pain.

      Hearing you talk about how cool and fun it is to be part of your society's lowest denominator is making me hungry.

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    10. Today’s excellent video from Mo is “O Canada… Quebec version”
      http://youtu.be/FupeuI7yaRM

      “I will permit no man to narrow and degrade my soul by making me hate him”… what a shame the troll with the narrow, degraded soul didn’t teach this to his children instead.

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    11. Coupe les féculents Rez,tu rentreras plus dans ta BM.

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    12. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE CALGARYWednesday, May 15, 2013 at 8:15:00 PM EDT

      "Je ne déteste pas l'argent Ti-Rez sauf que,contrairement à vous,je n'en suis pas esclave."
      Crisse, pi tes subventions, on te les coupent?

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    13. Je n'ai jamais eu de subventions,j'ai ma propre entreprise dans le domaine du multimédia.

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    14. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE CALGARYWednesday, May 15, 2013 at 9:05:00 PM EDT

      C'est archi-faux!!!!
      Je connais ton identite.

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    15. Tu aimerais bien connaître mon identité n'est-ce-pas?Mais je ne bois pas de Chardonnay,c'est pas mon genre,désolé ;)

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    16. http://youtu.be/FupeuI7yaRM

      The guy is right, it isn't the extremists who look bad here. We expect them to behave like this. It is the SILENT MAJORITY who looks worst of all for not doing anything to uproot the extremism in their society, and fight for what is right, just, and principled.

      I hope YOU are all sooooo proud of yourselves! This is what your 'Silence' is propagating.

      Sweet Dreams as the world looks on and feels nothing but disgust for this society.

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    17. "...feels nothing but disgust for this society."

      Nous sommes obligés de limiter le nombre d'immigrants à 55000/année,imaginez si "le monde" nous aimait.

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    18. Trop drôle!!!

      Celui qui a mit cette vidéo en ligne vient de perdre son job à cause de sa personnalité antisociale et de propagande anti-Québécoise sur les médias sociaux.

      Err...

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    19. "Celui qui a mit cette vidéo en ligne vient de perdre son job à cause de sa personnalité antisociale et de propagande anti-Québécoise sur les médias sociaux."

      If that's actually true, I wonder who his employer is?? No doubt a PQ sympathizer ...I'm taking bets...!!

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    20. "No doubt a PQ sympathizer..."

      Possible mais évidemment quelqu'un qui a du jugement.Ne gagez pas d'argent,gardez-le pour des cours de français qui vous seront beaucoup plus utiles que de foutre la merde partout où vous passez.

      :)

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    21. "....plus utiles que de foutre la merde partout où vous passez"

      You mean like you do?.. LOL...it's okay...yours smells enough for everybody.

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  14. @ Editor
    Martine Ouellet is practicing the tried and true tactic; Tell a lie often enough and people will eventually believe it.
    Minister Ouellet knows the difference between a loan guarantee and an actual loan, she is simply knowingly misleading the public to gain political advantage. She is playing on the relative ignorance of Joe/Jane, (excuse me Jacques/Jacqueline), public about finance. How many people, especially in Quebec’s regions, can honestly read and understand an annual report – I bet not too many.

    To be fair, the PQ is not the only political party that does this. This tactic is particularly favoured by American political parties especially certain branches/factions of the Republican party. Examples as follows:

    1.
    The myth that the 9/11 hijackers entered the US via Canada when in fact they were all in the US legally. All American political parties acknowledge the myth is untrue but they only acknowledge this when directly asked the question; Did the 9/11 hijackers enter the US through Canada Yes or No?

    2.
    The plethora of US Republican statements about President Obama;
    2.1 He was not born in the USA
    2.2 He is Muslim....


    Conclusion:
    The PQ, in this case minister Ouellet, are simply misleading the people, plain and simple. They are liars!

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    1. Yes, the above samples are true - when I was in Florida many of US residents told me Obama is Muslim and is not really a US citizen. The lies go on. Such as quebec is not divisible - another myth that the separatists spread and the followers believe.

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    2. "The PQ, in this case minister Ouellet, are simply misleading the people, plain and simple. They are liars!"

      She can lie all she wants, I suppose that is her prerogative, WHY...however, is no one in main stream media calling her out on it?? Don't we have the 'best' and most 'talented' journalists right here...locally in 'la belle province'. LOL But I suppose if the minister were a mafia figure they would be hot on her tail. The fact that she's a lying, duplicitous and despicable PQ politician who intentionally misleads the citizenry, hurting and harming it in the process, isn't a worthwhile story I suppose....maybe they were paid off...who knows....anything goes in this completely corrupt unethical dishonest and shady province.

      That's another thing that's really beginning to bug me to no end. The so-called media, who is suppose to report the news honestly and objectively, OR AT LEAST MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO DO SO... is sooooooooo bloody jaded, ESPECIALLY in this province, lately, I am less inclined to read what's written and reported here on a daily basis.

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    3. Nope - the reporters here in quebec never give the full story or the real facts behind the stories unless it's balanced on the side of the separatists. One has to wonder about our true journalists - there doesn't seem to be much integrity in their work in this province. I would imagine that fear is a factor - there are some crazies that support independence and they don't even try to hide their underlying propensity to intimidation.

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    4. @anectote

      "Don't we have the 'best' and most 'talented' journalists right here...locally in 'la belle province'. LOL But I suppose if the minister were a mafia figure they would be hot on her tail."

      and that would be a problem because...?

      "I am less inclined to read what's written and reported here on a daily basis."

      haha! the dude's inclined to become even less aware. at least you're honest. this time.

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  15. Editor,

    To be fair to the Leafs, if one assesses their loss on a single game basis, their game 7 meltdown was not that much worse than the Habs' game 4 meltdown against the Sens. Habs was leading 2-0, they needed to hold those 2 goals in the last 10 minutes, they even needed to hold against being scored in the last 30 seconds, but they could not. While the Leafs could not hold their one goal advantage in the last one minute, did the Habs not do worse?

    Of course if one looks at the bigger picture the Leafs held bigger at stake. Should they were able to hold that one goal they would have won the series and gone to the second round whereas should the Habs were able to hold that one goal they would only have tied the series 2-2 and who knows what could have happened next. Maybe to be fair you should also posted the picture of the Bell Center being empty with 5 more minutes to play on game 5.

    On the main topic: I can not wait what you will post on your second part the next time. What will you give Diane de Courcy if you already gave Ouellet, Breton and Kotto "F"? A "Z", maybe? :-)

    PS: Regarding your comment about Nicole Léger: "She's another big fat bust....er sorry!", do you not think that her last name is a little bit of an irony?

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    1. PS: Regarding your comment about Nicole Léger: "She's another big fat bust....er sorry!", do you not think that her last name is a little bit of an irony?

      I shall not venture there, I've already said too much.....

      As for the Leafs, the loss to the Bruins shall go down in history as one of the biggest FAILS! ever.
      In 20 years, Leafs fans will still be re-living the pain. No it doesn't compare to the Habs loss, which was just run of the mill.

      The Toronto MAple FAIL is an instant classic. FOREVER!!!

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    2. I agree..the Toronto collapse was absolutely epic. And once again a Canadian team getting its butt kicked by an American team..what the heck is wrong with Canadian temas??? Its a national embarassment that we havent one the Stanley Cup in 20 years and yet many of the best players are Canadians!!!! I think there is some sort of mental inferiority complex now with Canadian teams..they must expect to lose whenever they play an american team. It seems the only way a Canadian team can win is if it plays another Canadian team..example the Ottawa Senators. The Sens have about as much hope of beating Pittsburgh as I do of playing for the Canadiens next year..

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      There is a giant difference between the Leafs and the Habs. The leafs missed winning the play offs by only one goal. Canadians were nowhere near it. Ed
      The fact that the 911 terrorists came from Canada was a lie raised in the U.S. senate by Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. In the aftermath of 9/11 they were worried that terrorists might have come in through the open Mex-US border. They spoke about closing it and ejecting illegals. Graham and other southerners could not have that because they needed the cheap labour. so he pointed the finger in the other direction, at Canada. He also suggested that tanks be set up along the border with Canada because Canadians were flowing into the U.S. illegally. Paul Martin told them, "Do what you want but it's a waste of time. I assure you no self respecting Canadian would want to live in the U.S. Ed

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    4. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE CALGARYWednesday, May 15, 2013 at 8:13:00 PM EDT

      "The leafs missed winning the play offs by only one goal. "
      Really? How about: "The Maple Leafs missed winning the playoffs series in which they played in overtime"?
      Sounds better. Yes.

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    5. Sorry, Calgary guy, you can't be gloating. The Flames didn't even make it in the playoff this year.

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    6. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE CALGARYThursday, May 16, 2013 at 6:14:00 AM EDT

      The Flames?????????????????????????
      LOL!!!! LMFAO!!!!!!
      Je suis de Montreal, Liam. Je suis un partisan du Canadien de Montreal et des Alouettes, monsieur!!!!
      C'est pas a cause que j'ai decide de travailler et de vivre a Calgary que tu dois assumer telles conneries. Et puis je refuse de vivre de subventions comme ton copain S.R.
      Flames??????????????????????? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Down in Flames!!!!!

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  16. Notice who is sitting in the front row beside Pauline, it is the daycare minister not the finance minister. Also, notice that the deputy minister and president of the treasury board (before last row, third guy from the last) is not beside the premier but in the back of the group. Heck why is that? Also the labour minister is in the front row while the health minister is behind the premier. What are the premier priority?

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    1. who cares? maybe she considers all ministers to be important. find serious things to complain about liam.

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  17. Julia Gillard Premiere Ministre de l'Australie

    "LES IMMIGRANTS, DOIVENT S'ADAPTER. C'est à prendre ou à laisser. Je suis fatiguée que cette nation s'inquiète de savoir si nous offensons certains individus ou leur culture...
    Notre Culture, s'est développée depuis plus de deux siècles après tant de luttes, d'épreuves et de victoires par des millions d'hommes et de femmes qui ont recherché la liberté.
    Nous parlons l'anglais et non pas l'espagnol, le libanais, l'arabe, le chinois, le japonais, le russe ou autre langage. Donc, si vous voulez faire partie de notre société, APPRENEZ NOTRE LANGUE !!"

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    1. Gillard is an aggressive politician. I remember her accusing Opposition leader of misogyny.

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    2. Spoken like the true descendant of a British convict exiled to a far-fetched nation. Spoken like the true descendant of a exile who partook in the extermination of those who spent a lot more than just two centuries to develop their culture.

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    3. big difference between Quebec and Oz... Despite what the resident Retards/Terrorists err trolls SR, YL, like to think Quebec was built by both Anglos and Franco's... Anglos have the right to be treated the same as Francos under the law.... Nobody should more equal then anybody else....

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    4. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE CALGARYWednesday, May 15, 2013 at 8:08:00 PM EDT

      I agree. All immigrants must adapt to our culture, our laws and the two languages.
      After all, no one forced them to come over, right?

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    5. I've never understood this attitude. Which immigrants don't learn the local language? I've never met any.

      Maybe the grandparents who are brought over, but never people of working age.

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    6. "After all, no one forced them to come over, right?" Canada will always be an immigrant nation. We will always need immigration. Putting a stop to immigration will hurt Canada's economy big time.
      "Which immigrants don't learn the local language?" Many come here without knowing french or english. I know a couple of guy that don't speak french or english. We can't expect all immigrants to come here to learn english or french.

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    7. FROM Snopes.com:
      “This item is a hybrid which combines an introductory reference to statements made by Australian politicians about Muslims following the July 2005 London Tube bombings with an editorial about immigrants written by a U.S. Air Force veteran following the September 2001 attacks on the U.S., attributing the entire result to current Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard. In fact, none of the statements quoted in the above example was actually made by Prime Minister Gillard.

      FROM Urbanlegends.about.com:
      “Viral message quotes Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard purportedly telling Muslim immigrants they must speak the English language and adapt to Australian culture or leave the country.”
      Description: Forwarded email
      Circulating since: Sep. 2005 (various versions)
      Status: FALSELY attributed to Gillard

      FROM Hoax or Fact.com:
      “These messages have been circulating through emails and social networks in several variants since 2005. All these messages talk about the issue of Islamic Sharia law in Australia, claiming that immigrant Muslims in Australia must agree and abide by the parliamentary laws of Australia. The messages also claim that the Prime Minister of Australia, Julia Gillard (others in older versions of messages) has asked the Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law to get out of Australia. There is an element of truth about the concerns of Islamic Sharia law and Muslims terror in Australia, but all these messages are misinterpreted, misquoted and exaggerated versions of various discussions of Australian government officials and other editorial writings.


      You guys all got sucked in by an anonymous separatist troll. Please be more careful next time.

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    8. @liam

      "I remember her accusing Opposition leader of misogyny."

      and? was the opposition leader a misogynist? you left out halfof the story, mate.

      "We can't expect all immigrants to come here to learn english or french."

      ?!? what do you expect of them liam?

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    9. @resident evil

      "Spoken like the true descendant of a British convict..."

      that's gratuitous smearing. what you do is ugly.

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    10. "I agree. All immigrants must adapt to our culture, our laws and the two languages.
      After all, no one forced them to come over, right?"

      No one forced the French or the English to come over either, but do any of them speak...say..."Algonquian", or any of the other native languages?

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    11. "No one forced the French or the English to come over either"

      Des mois en haute mer avec le scorbut était le sport extrême à la mode en 1600 et c'est par hazard que nous sommes arrivés en Amérique.

      Est-ce que vous aimez l'histoire ToTo?

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    12. "Est-ce que vous aimez l'histoire ToTo?"

      I actually have a great appreciation for Geography, especially when we're looking for China and end up in Lachine!! Extreme sports my ass...just lousy navigators...but..oh..look...that's part of History too. LOL

      And you conveniently avoided the question: Did any of those who weren't invited but landed here anyway AS IMMIGRANTS, adapt to the ways of the Land and learn to speak ...NATIVE???...(I didn't think so...)

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    13. "After all, no one forced them to come over, right?"

      Most immigrants move for economic reasons. Most learn the local language. Some don't, no point pretending otherwise. But why are they so dangerous?

      Picking on immigrants as in the Australian example is cheap political jingoism, easy points to score with the local population in insecure economic times. And it doesn't always relate to the immigrant's physical inability to speak the local language, but to the lack of deference on the part of immigrants to the "hosts".

      Immigrants are supposed to know their place. The "hosts" don't like it when immigrants get too independent, especially with economic uncertainty looming large.

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    14. Anybody here ever seen the Australian movie Romper Stomper?

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    15. @Adski,

      My point is that WE ARE ALL IMMIGRANTS, just cause someone's ancestors crossed over 200+ yrs before mine did...don't entitle them to 'dick'..excuse the expression. And...I don't think the Native people invited them over either...but guess..what...they came anyway...and imposed their way of Life, their Culture and their Language. I guess...they didn't "know their place"...did they??

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    16. "WE ARE ALL IMMIGRANTS"

      Oui mais certains plus que d'autres :)

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    17. "And you conveniently avoided the question: Did any of those who weren't invited but landed here anyway AS IMMIGRANTS, adapt to the ways of the Land and learn to speak ...NATIVE???...(I didn't think so...)"

      In the early days of the colony? Many. I thought this was common knowledge?

      There were also many intermarriages with natives, who were glad of the presence of the French because it meant trading all year long rather than waiting for a ship to be sighted off the coast.

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    18. "In the early days of the colony? Many. I thought this was common knowledge? There were also many intermarriages with natives, who were glad of the presence of the French because it meant trading all year long rather than waiting for a ship to be sighted off the coast."


      Yes Yes...because I hear "Algonquin" all the time as I walk through the streets of Montreal...all the time indeed. I imagine a few did learn to speak native "in the early days of the colony"...point is....and I thought it was OBVIOUS to all what I was getting at...but I guess not...(seriously rolling my eyes)..it never stuck...did it?? TODAY...the official languages of Quebec or Canada are English and French, not any of the native languages....Now do you get it??? Have we explained it slowly enough for you to follow this time??

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    19. You haven't explained where you're getting at, no. So the montrealers never learned Algonquin, why would they have? By the time it became a town, there werent any natives living there.

      It can't be that you are insinuating that today's Quebecers ought to speak Algonquin or else they're hypocrites, that would just be too stupid.

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    20. Quickly somebody...get me some crayons!!!!!

      I would draw you a picture, but I just can't be bothered.

      (wow..there's no way ANYBODY who claim to be so educated, can actually be this dumb)

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    21. @anectote

      "...and I thought it was OBVIOUS to all what I was getting at..."

      it's never obvious what you're getting at, mate. your essays are always so deep and rich that your average reader rarely can appreciate them without a couple of keys. at first glance your rantage seems like normal slobtalk. but when you explain it well it is possible to reach a higher understanding and it becomes clear what you do is special. don't spare yannick any additional wisdom bits, it will benefit everyone to catch what you really meant by "Sweet Dreams as the world looks on and feels nothing but disgust for this society".

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    22. Wow Pinstripes...that was some impressive tirade...did you use a thesaurus and all? LOL What I wrote....did it completely vex you?...lol...GOOODDDD...my job is done!

      Gee Yan...does it give you a warm fuzzy feeling to know the blog's quintessential troll, has your back? lol I'd take heed however, if I were you...what's that proverbial expression?..."Tell me who your friends are...and I'll tell you who YOU are" Machiavelli said or insinuated that.. (something to that effect)... at some point in ..The Prince. Wise man he was...that Machiavelli.

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    23. What I remember from the prince was "keep your friends close, and keep your enemies closer", which is not exactly the same message. It is one of my favorite works as well; I've tried to read the art of war, but I found it much too obtuse and dry in comparison.

      In any case, at the risk of having to draw you a picture myself, there is no hypocrisy in the descendants 300 years down the line of a settler culture to want immigrants to learn their language.

      Consider, for instance, that there is not a single settler population in the world who has displayed respect towards aboriginals by taking up their language. To hold Francophone Quebecers to such a standard just to make them look hypocritical is ridiculous. Francophone Quebecers are the same as other descendants of settler cultures - no more, no less, and expecting people who move into their cities to learn their language is not the great human crime you make it out to be.

      Since I give you more credit than to try and do that, I'm really trying to figure out where you were trying to go. Or perhaps I think too highly of you?

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  18. Unreasonable accommodation for Jewish holiday?
    Posted By: Angelica Montgomery amontgomery@astral.com • 5/15/2013 3:32:00 PM
    http://www.cjad.com/CJADLocalNews/entry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10545149


    Citizenship minister Bernard Drainville says an NDG-CDN accommodation for a Jewish high holiday goes too far, and he foresees it leading to other problems. The borough has removed parking restrictions during the Shavuot holiday because some observant Jews cannot drive to move their cars. The policy has existed for nearly three decades.

    Minister Drainville says the followers of other religions are now likely to also require different road signs based on their various beliefs. "We can't have rules for road signs according to religion because then it will never end." The minister says no accommodation is necessary, because the rules do not discriminate. "All that it does it create an argument. All that it does is create resentment. It divides us instead of uniting us."

    Marvin Rotrand, a local-area city councillor, says the NDG-CDN has had the practice since 1984, and Drainville's concerns have yet to materialize. There may be another reason the minister is making on issue of this policy now, says Liberal MNA Lawrence Bergman. "Along comes a PQ minister who is perhaps showing his true colours of intolerance," he says.

    Drainville says the situation in NDG-CDN shows the need for clear rules on secularism and religious accommodation. His party had originally suggested a new charter would be tabled this spring. However, the deadline to present such a bill at the National Assembly was this morning, and nothing was produced. The minister says first the PQ will present a white paper that outlines options for public discussion.

    François Legault questions whether party in-fighting is putting a damper on the project. "Mister Drainville is saying we should have some rules, but we are not ready to table any rules. Why do they wait?"

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    1. 30 years without a problem and now the PQ is trying to create one. Why am I not surprised? Their entire existence is predicated on trying to create problems.

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    2. {...}a white paper that outlines options for public discussion." Being in the Government is no time for a white paper. If you take a decision, live with it. Heck Bernard Drainville is a complete and utter reject of his own party. After challenging Pauline, he was relegated to the unpleasant ministry of citizenship. Also why is the minister involve in municipal affairs. Parking is to be controlled by the cities not the provincial government, understand Pauline and Bernard. IS THIS UNDERSTOOD? I don't want to have to go to Quebec City to pay a parking ticket. Why is that so hard to understand Bernard?

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    3. A provincial PQ minister (and possible future PQ leader) getting involved in a local municipality’s parking by-laws?!? Oy vey!!!

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    4. Bernard Drainville as futur PQ leader and Premier. You have got to be kidding.

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    5. I know! It’s hard to believe… but from this link:

      « Au début de l'été 2011, après la crise qui éclate au sein du Parti québécois et qui voit quatre députés (Pierre Curzi, Lisette Lapointe, Louise Beaudoin et Jean-Martin Aussant) démissionner du caucus, le nom de Bernard Drainville circule parmi les candidats putatifs pour remplacer Pauline Marois, dont le leadership sort très affaibli par cette crise. »

      « À l'automne 2011, la crise s'est accentuée au sein du Parti Québécois. Le leadership de Pauline Marois étant d'autant plus fragile, le nom de Bernard Drainville a abondamment circulé dans les médias comme futur candidat à la chefferie du PQ. »


      The PQ is really scraping the barrel!

      If you want to be even more shocked, just have a look at the comments written by the good citizens of Quebec City (in particular, that of Mario Lessard):

      http://www.journaldequebec.com/2013/05/15/ca-na-pas-de-bon-sens-dit-bernard-drainville

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    6. "All that it does it create an argument. All that it does is create resentment. It divides us instead of uniting us."

      A PQ minister actually dared to say that with a straight face?!? Really?? What cheek!

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    7. "30 years without a problem and now the PQ is trying to create one. Why am I not surprised? Their entire existence is predicated on trying to create problems"

      Isn't there some kind of law whereby you can take a publicly elected official to task for 'intentionally' inciting conflict in order to further some kind of personal/political agenda? It seems to me that if there has never been a problem here in NDG with this issue and this moron sticks his nose into it just to create conflict and problems AND THAT IS HIS INTENTION then certainly there should be some provision in the law to address this?? The lawyers in the room???

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    8. I still think a lot of these politicians could be charged with some kind of hate provocation. A lot of stuff they propose and do seems to be hateful to me. I would love to see one or some of them charged with some kind of hate crime and put in jail. That would be great satisfaction for a lot of us and would send a message about how society has fallen to a new low in quebec.

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    9. Talk about complicating our lives needlessly. This is yet another example of politicians worrying about, and attempting to create, problems that do not exist. Why doesn't minister Drainville and his government worry about the real problems in our society such as the drop-out rate in our schools, battered women and children, unemployment, and the list could go on and on.

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  19. Excellent vidéo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pVfp_j9AWvE

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    1. l'hymne national du Québec, chanté par le nouveau premier ministre des Québécois!
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96ydqEpB-I8&list=PL7F888F25382BFAFB

      TEMPS DE mât de drapeau!
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJLPnqy5wMc

      Ou l'hymne national du Québec????
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3DnoxzorYg

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  20. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE CALGARYThursday, May 16, 2013 at 6:20:00 AM EDT

    quebec is the parasite of Canada

    "There is no longer a threat of Quebec independence because Quebecers have become “addicted” to transfer payments from other provinces".
    http://globalnews.ca/news/552784/black-says-quebec-addicted-to-transfers/

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  21. Here is something all you federalists can do:

    http://discriminationbasedonethnicorigin.blogspot.ca/2013/05/canada-supports-quebec-discrimination.html?spref=fb

    Please don't just keep sitting back - it doesn't take long to prepare a short e-mail. Start taking action!

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  22. Gilles Vaillancourt aurait tenté de corrompre Thomas Mulcair

    http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/politique-canadienne/201305/16/01-4651316-gilles-vaillancourt-aurait-tente-de-corrompre-thomas-mulcair.php

    Ha les "liberals"...

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    1. mulcair refused to get involved in the ring, consequently he was kicked out of the lpq. who are the bad guys?

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  23. Funny about the $100,000 that went to the PQ - haven't heard too much more about that - Miss Piggy doesn't want that to be mentioned I guess.

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    1. What did you expect, Marois to be a pinnacle of honesty. If their is one think we know about the PQ is that they can be just as dishonest as anybody else.

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    2. Frankly Liam I expected a response from SR, dudent or YL - I wanted to hear them justify this money as they keep putting everything on the liberals to date.

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    3. FROM ED
      Actually Liam, the PQ is more dishonest than anyone else. They have to be to cover up their lies. One lie evokes another.
      Ed

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    4. I posted this earlier but it doesn't seem to have come through - No Liam - I expected the silly seppies to respond with their usual defence of their own crooked PQ politicians - I'm sure they will find some excuse for this money right guys?

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    5. @cutie003

      what 100000$? post a link, mate. i don't trust you.

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  24. Found this very interesting:

    http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2013/05/15/jean-chretien-met-son-grain-de-sel-dans-la-campagne-referendaire-ecossaise

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    1. Especially this part - gather he meant that the referendums should have included all of Canada. If not, what else could it mean?

      For him, the vote should not be open only to residents of Scotland. He regretted that this was not the case when the two referendums on Quebec independence took place. "All these people would have voted no," he said.

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    2. Chrétien a déjà affirmé qu'il fallait éviter de garder des armes nucléaires dans nos maisons afin d'éviter que les enfants soient tentés de les utiliser comme jouet.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-44KH5SZBU

      À 1:12

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    3. Rin Bijoux

      I don't blame them for not wanting to be a part of Canada. Most of Canada does an excellent job at making themselves look like douchebags. And before you assume, I'm a Canadian. I'm proud to be from BC, but not from Canada.

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    4. Then I would suggest you move here and try living in a separate quebec - maybe you'll like it better. Most Canadians are glad to be part of the confederation of provinces. I know the federalists here wish we were included rather than excluded as we are by Canada and quebec.

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    5. Well, Rin Bijoux. I can't say I agree that "Most of Canada does an excellent job at making themselves look like douchebags", but you certainly do. Thanks for taking your head out of your ass to contribute that thoughtful little gem. You don't say when in the BC era you come from but I suspect some of your neighbours might have been Neanderthals.

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    6. Jesus, it's a comment that was uplifted verbatim from a youtube video, by some girl who's like 16.

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