“Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.” -Oscar Wilde.
Whatever the outcome, this is going to be fun.Given that I will be a full-time resident of Toronto in two weeks, I'll be leaving this blog after tonight. I refuse to let this bother me anymore.Whether you're an anglo or franco, I sincerely hope you readers get a decent government in place, I really do.So until the end of this evening, let's rock folks!
Harvey: Toronto welcomes you with open arms! Congratulations on a very wise decision. Actually, you're not completely out of the woods. Do keep in mind that Ontario is still the largest net contributor to the equalization payments, and Quebec gets half the money. Please don't be complacent and do keep in touch with this blog.
First of all, a few months ago, I claimed that the PQ would suffer the same fate as the Bloc in the next election. Before this even starts, I have to admit now that I was obviously wrong.That being said, who's ready for another decade of PQ rule?Are you Ontario folks ready for the boost to your economy? You better thank all the PQ voters!
They were done, and then probably funded these student protests, I really believe they did and that boosted them. As for you second comment. I am so there. PQ can have their cake and eat it too.
To anyone looking to move, Ottawa is a great place to live. I live on a street where there is a diverse mix of English and French. Just the way I like it.
I left Quebec earlier this year but despite that I am very afraqid of the outcome of the election. When I first moved to Quebec it was the anglophone community that truly embraced me and made me feel welcome. It hurts me to see the rights of my friends being destroyed. It hurts me that I had to leave the province because I felt discriminated and even though I learned to speak French and made efforts to integrate myself fully into the Quebec society I could never be one of them. Sad to see that politicians are feeding people with hate that is only promoting more and more instances like that video we saw yesterday of the anglophone guys getting yelled at for not speaking french.
PBoy, unfortunately that's not going to end with the election of a PQ government, albeit a minority government. Let's see what happens in coming days. I have a feeling Marois is going to make every effort to appeal to the more ardent separatists of the CAQ with cabinet positions if they cross the floor, at least enough of them to put her over the top.A minority is better than a majority, but that's all. It's going to be very expensive, just like minority governments usually are, so just add it to the almost $253 billion debt load the debt clock is currently showing.
HERE WE GO!
I still think Charest might pull it off. No guarantees but... I'm not counting him out.
Its going to be my last Language election. Who ever wins it does not matter. I am so done with this province. You win and lose all at the same time. Bonne Chance a Tous.
You and me both, Steve. We're not alone, another reader is pulling hte plug after tonight. Let's hope for the best.
No. wait, the liberals are going up...up...wait to leaveWA
WIth PQ in, I'll follow suit. With CAQ, maybe...
Sorry it does not make a difference who wins like I said I am done done and done. Time for a change.
I love this game!!!
Phew SR isn't here probably curled up on a cozy bar stool ready to celebrate
I think I saw him in the PQ crowd chanting "On veut un pays!" on CBC. :P
With the way the Liberals are keeping up, I think S.R is pouring back the Tums. Where's his arrogance now?PQ 16 - PLQ 12
Marios didn't convince that many voting people in her riding. What's the population where she ran? She definitely didn't steal it! Ripe territory for a person to campaign next time around.
Je suis ICI Harvey...Youhouuuu!
I AM QUITE NERVOUS AND QUITE ASHAMED TO ADMIT IT!!!
You aren't alone...
I'm nervous too. You can all stay at my places if you have to move
Its almost like watching the 95 referendum. Now if pauline loses and has a few shots we may her the Ethnic and Money speech.
Now if pauline loses and has a few shots we may her the Ethnic and Money speech.heh :D
I must confess I was a bit jumpy too at the early going for I prefer a minority PQ to a majority, but at least it would give a last chance to get the poison out and hopefully getting it off one's chest sometimes helps. Then again, this is Quebec, and that vitriolic video on the Sept 3rd blog was particularly disturbing. Again, though, you can see the antagonist had a big mug of beer in his hands, and only God knows how many mugs he swilled prior to that video.Anyway, feel better people...for the moment. Now we'll be able to see just how skillful she really is this Pauline Marois and her 30 years in public life. I don't think she has anywhere near the prowess of Goldilocks, but with him off the scene, it renders the PLQ as more impotent that they would be had he won his seat.
The results are different everywhere I look French CBC has the best I think?
Check out the live stream on the journal de Montreal: http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2012/09/04/la-soiree-des-elections-en-directVery up-to-date poll results.
I AM FEELING A LOT OF STRESS!
In through the nose, out through the mouth!!
Yeah, I'm anxious too. What if the Liberals get back in? Or the PQ only gets a minority?GO PQ GO....destroy Quebec! Muhahaha.
I'm really anxious to compare the final results to the recent Léger (aka Parti Québécois) Polls.3 seats away from a majority my ass.
Just like the polls for Alberta said Wild Rose would win by a landslide, sadly the PC's dominated right from the start of the ballot counting. The next days the leaders of all parties were asking what do we pay these pollers for when they are so inaccurate? Online polls are silly you can click them over and over
Charest in the lead right now! 26 to 21! I don't believe it!
Liberals are doing way better than we thought... Charest might pull this off... :)
I have 5 bucks on a 3 way split
Liberals are flyingggggggggggg.....WA
I can't believe it either! I really did think the Libs were on their way to Davey Jones' locker and as I write this L-36 P-33WOW!
Neck and neck would this be just the same as you had before?
Parti Québecois in the lead again... will they win by enough to claim a minority or even a majority?
Its 63 for a majority ?
Well the queen is in.
Jean-Martin Aussant seems to be losing his own riding... the end of the one-man party. Sad, if we had encouraged him some more he could have split the separatist vote further.
PQ are being declared the winning party
Yup sucks that less than 1 hour in its already almost over. All those blue sections probably have the most unemployment and have nothing to lose.
Funny that this little shit comes out now. Not one little peep when the Libs were 10 ahead for a while.Little coward.Anyhow, Hahahahahahahahaha! indeed. PQ voters are about to eat a nice, hot steaming plate of shizer.Chin-chin, S.R!
The fun will start when she pulls that phoney touchy smiley bossy shit on Harper I cannot wait
Bebye Harvey :)Say hello to toronto for me...Hahahahahaha!
SR I hear your beer calling you
Financial disaster with PQ, investors leaving the province, something SR does seem to get.When the economy starts turning sour and jobs are lost, we will laugh...WA
Félicitations.J'ai hâte de voir si les choses vont s'améliorer.
S.R, serait tu game a me rencontré a mon gym pour un match de boxe avant que je quitee la province?
Je ne fréquente pas les lieux gais
Ohh...not only racist and xenophobic, but even homophobic...you have all the traits of the typical quebekéWA
Et c'est ça - le PQ gagne grâce au trolls qui profitent de l'anonymat pour dire n'importe quoi.
Je n'ai pas dit que je n'aimais pas les gais,comme adski le dit si bien:Il me laisse indifférent.Ceci dit Harvey fait ce qu'il veut avec ses petits muscles,même les huiler afin attirer les autres mâles ;)
@WA, homophobia is not a phenomenon unique to QC. And if anything, it's the PQ that seems to be most open-minded on this front, openly courting the homosexual vote (PQ politicians always march in these silly gay parades). However, this might also be a cynical ploy. The over-tolerance on the gay front could be a way of compensating for intolerance on other fronts (like language). It's hard to tell.
It's kind of strange that the news announce who wins in this country - in principle it should be up to the third party, the CAQ, to decide whether or not it will support Marois or support Charest.
Seventeen seats is a paltry result for the CAQ, especially with 27% of the vote a mere 6% behind the PQ and 4% behind the libs.
MINORITY GOV,,,,,THANK THE LORD!
This is crap. Night is still young and they're declaring the PQ the winner... :)
It's okay your good the PQ have to share.
Not good enough! :)Could the PLQ and the CAQ get together? They tried to overthrow the Conservatives this way a few years back...
Bad for party voter confidence
Jean-François lisée: ÉLU!
What do you have in common with Lisee?
Tout!C'est mon idole :p
You have really low standards. Who would have thought that?
Hey I think I'll win my bet. The house will still be in limbo, she won't get to do diddly with all the yelling in the house
Harper will give her 5 minutes in a busy hallway
With about 10 people around him giving him hockey scores... :)
He'll do it he's such a d-bag
HONESTLYCOULDN'T BE HAPPIER!!
Well, could I venture and say that maybe you might be happier if the Libs would have formed a govt? I know I would.
I hope they do not hit that magic number.
Welcome aboard Léo!
puppet on a string, he cannot pee without her holding it. Now that's a man(child)I want to vote for. Nice to see that a drop out can be paid to start a protest and get a job with the load shark who lent him the money and who is corrupt now ?. He has been officially castrated.
Charest losing in his own riding... quelle humiliation!
You guys will have another election within the next 18 months - no worries!
Not on Canada's dime your not! Quebec can sit and hover as long as no body moves nothing gets broken lol
I want the PQ to lose two more seats to have only 57. first election I and my wife voted strategically and it seems to be paying off.
...PQ minority government...bye bye Bill 101 implementation, bye bye Charte de la langue française implementation, bye bye Cegep in French...sweet dreams, SR!!WA
SR Charest is an elected party leader. You could volunteer with the PQ and learn how your politics work
Mais plus député dans Sherbrooke,il est remplacé par notre bon ami et ex-Bloquiste,Serge Cardin.C'est exactement ce que je souhaitais.
Je nez pa parles francais dit mois anglais svp
Steve wrote: "I hope they do not hit that magic number."I'm focusing on a different magic number altogether.
Come on Jean!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ByeBye Barrette!GROSSE perte pour la CAQ
Just wanted to let you know in parting, I'd be happy to help you shift your blog to WordPress where you could better control the comment traffic and effectively shut down S.R once and for all.You have my email address. Let me know if you're interested and I'll help you set it up. It's pretty simple and I think you might enjoy it more than Blogger.
lol LCN keeps saying not far from a majority but they are. " they had work hard to win this". dumb ass they sponsored the protest took advantage of the students wore a red square to pretend they gave a dam. Man you people stupid. keep throwing you pennies in that wishing well.
not only that..PQ and QS are highly incompatible...so, lots of fighting, kerfuffles...but not separation, referendum...WA
I am not an expert...Coalition? Maybe, we will see..Do you understand that coalition means Quebec sinking more and more??? PQ voters are so aloof from reality that they do not see the disaster facing us... ALL of us, not just Franco, but ALL of us...got it?WA
Harvey Dent wrote: Just wanted to let you know in parting, I'd be happy to help you shift your blog to WordPress where you could better control the comment traffic and effectively shut down S.R once and for all.You have my email address. Let me know if you're interested and I'll help you set it up. It's pretty simple and I think you might enjoy it more than Blogger.I have a WordPress account, so I can still post if the Editor shifts his blog.Look, I don't know that much about Quebec politics, so I'll just ask a simple question. Harper began his tenure as Prime Minister with a minority government, but during the next election he won a minority. If Pauline Marois ends up premier of Quebec with a minority government, how likely is it that she and the PQ would be able to do the same thing?
She has much luck as Kim Campbell did in 93.
YES 57 take that douche bag.
Nous les prenons volontier,merci :P
We're not quite done yet, but the only surprise tonight is the Liberals managed to take second place as official opposition. I honestly thought they'd be completely wiped off the map.So, it's likely going to be a Parti Quebecois minority, just a few seats short of majority. Question is, will members of the CAQ or QS jump ship back over to the PQ to give them a majority? Or the CAQ and the PLQ form a coalition government?
The QS are irrelevant; any combination of two non-QS parties gives more than 63 delegates so QS is never in a position to influence a vote. Maybe next time they'll take off a few more seats on Montreal.
It baffles me how in 21st century North America someone can vote for a communist party (and I am not talking about a 'strategic vote')...
The students sold their votes for 350 bucks
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Only a few seats short of a PQ majority. Sucks to be in the ROC this night.Maybe the QS will have the balance of power at the end of the night and save the day.Shit.
important: 57% of Quebec voted for a tuition increase tonight. not that any of my classmates will see it that way...
Wonder if she is going to bring her pots and pans to parliament.So she can start banging them when no one listens to her. Its almost too bad she did not get a majority, now she has a scapegoat when things do not go her way.
she is done, Steve, especially with such a strong opposition...she wan, but she did not.WA
That would sure be a sight. I can see it now, her standing all alone on Parliament Hill with her big alluminium pot..--Vive la Quebec libre, vive la quebec libre, vive la quebec libre--Je m'excuse, madame. Voulez-vous de soupe? Vous pouvez l'en trouver au banque alimentaire là-bas--Merci!
Question : If the natives are all so anti-seperatist, why do all the northern ridings elect PQ with 40-60% of the vote?
Yea really are they not allowed to vote ?
You have a good point Yannick. Does anyone know? Is it because they do not vote and the few that do are not natives?
Natives don't vote in provincial elections.
Why not? No interest?
I heard its the Mayors of the communities that vote. Not sure though.
Pretty sure they have the right to vote in all provincial jurisdiction. Even if it was the mayors - why would they vote PQ?
Yannick goto Mohawk web site for kansatake the chief started a language protection claim just a few weeks ago the vids on the front of the website. By helping the Mohawk and other first nations up to the arctic, supporting them protecting what they have, you'd be helping strengthen your power.
First nations on Reserves have a politics all inside each reserve they have a chiefs council *Vancouver Olympics they sat with country leaders.
WhooHoo 56 seats
In my opinion PQ lost tonight...
they will be able to do NOTHING...so, basically, yes, they lost...I see lots of fights between Pq and QS...Pauvre Pauline ! She must be crying a lot...WA
They have less votes than they did in 2008, not a very strong mandate to go on...
Yes...it means that people want to stay in Canada, want to leave in peace, speak English and-or French and bring food on the table and have a job...WA
Here is a comment in today's Globe and Mail:My Canada includes the north, half of Montreal, the Outawais, and the southern townships.. If Canada is divisible so is Quebec. There is zero argument against the partition of Quebec. What's left of Quebec can PLEASE leave! Canada would be so much better off. We would quickly form some of common trade arrangement with Quebec (Canada-lite). We would have NONE of the crazy transfer payment (a savings of billions). About a fifth of our national debt would disappear (as it is percapita and not based on the size of the territory Quebec leaves with). We would just have to build a highway around the rump of Quebec (one in the north to Labrador and one through the southern townships). Canada would wind up looking like a gigantic letter "C" (how appropriate). Kick the disloyal parts of Quebec out, keep the rest. They are a joke. Welfare bums all of them. This time it's different. No one in Canada cares if Quebec leaves. They will also LOVE Harper the more he stands up to this blackmail. Talk to anyone outside of downtown Toronto. They LOVE it when the feds give Quebec tough love. Harper is the real originator of the Clarity Act (aka Reform's Plan "B" which sent urban Toronto into hysterics of fear until it worked!). But Harper is a champion of greater provincial power and less federal meddling. He would probably have no problem with all provinces (including Quebec) having greater autonomy. Marois will be pushing Harper to do something which he has always wanted to do...loosen the ties of confederation (and why not). All this means is that Ontario is going to lose more and more power as Canada decentralizes. As long as Harper cuts the transfer payments dollar for dollar with areas of responsibility Quebec assumes...it's a win win.. Personally if there was a way to provoke this economic basket case into leaving Canada I'd be happy. They are like Greece...lazy...and ungrateful... Kick them out.. They'll be begging for help soon enough. We should offer then ZERO when that time comes. They will become this broke backwater. And one last thing... Just because they become a country doesn't mean they get to treat Anglos like crap. Free of the blackmail we can reassert our rights to speak English in Quebec. The feds can stop spending $4 billion on transfer payments and start spending it on bolstering the English language community and culture in Quebec. All of North America speaks English. Quebec is a pathetic joke..
First of all, not all of North America speaks English. Only the majority. You're forgetting Haiti, Cuba, Puerto Rico, the Dominican Republic, the French departments in the Carribean, the Dutch departments in the Carribean, Mexico, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Honduras, Costa Rica, Panama and St. Pierre & Miquelon. Those are a lot of people. The Quebec partition movement shouldn't be about separating the English parts of Quebec from the French ones. If we want to do that, how are we any better than the separatists? We should want a bilingual province where people are free to speak their language, whether it's English or French or Klingon. I don't care if the province is French majority, I couldn't care less. Most French Canadians couldn't care less if they lived in an English majority area as well. I wouldn't judge people by their language to the same extent as I wouldn't want to be judged by my language myself.
FROM ED BROWNEDM Who cares what they speak in Haiti Cuba or anywhere else. When we speak of North America we're actually addressing Canada and the U.S. That's where the economy that affects us is.They all speak English. You want a province where people are free to speak their language. So do we. That's what the partition is all about. Stop seeing the Province through rose coloured glasses. Our language is not free. Where have you been.
Sorry, Ed. I suppose I misinterpreted what you said. I must admit I sort of skimmed through it the first time I read it. Reading over it again, I can see where you're going. The language restrictions have got to go, and we're on the same page there. If they are not taken away, Quebec will remain as economically restricted as it is lingually restricted. Bill 101 is one of the primary causes of Quebec's economical decline in the latter half of the 20th century. Now I understand what you were saying. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
A friend actually pointed out that the PQ and the Republicans have a lot in common: an exclusionary ideology that they're willing to sell out their fellow countrymen to be able to implement. Sad, really. I hope the US fares better in November.As a point of inquiry (c'mon, I know Canadians like educating ignorant Americans), can anyone explain to me why ridings in Canada do not have to have equal numbers of residents? Part of why the PQ has the representation it has is that electoral weight is hugely skewed toward "the regions." Back in the States, this would be grounds for a high-profile civil rights lawsuit. Under the US Constitution, districts have to be redrawn after every census. This seems like Democracy 101 to me.On a separate note, anyone want to buy a condo in the Plateau? ;-)
Actually, why is it that representatives don't have to live in their districts either? Again, in the US, it's a requirement that anyone running for office live in the same district as his constituents.
"A friend actually pointed out that the PQ and the Republicans have a lot in common: an exclusionary ideology that they're willing to sell out their fellow countrymen to be able to implement."I have been following both the US and QC races, and I realized at one point that I've been applying the same word to the Republican Party and the PQ. That word is "insane". Both the Republicans and the PQ are more like a religious cult than a political movement at this point.
Your right! now that I think of it. I thought look at this they are both phoney lying thieves that suck the life out of people after they've voted for them.
I am sure the PLQ and the CAQ will pass her budget. then afterwords watch her drown slowly. throw the life preserver out to her then pull it away. Make her so upset she loses it. Thats what I would do.
They'll make her beg and show you how insane that party is
The house won't let PQ do one thing without concession's.You took the matches away from those pyromaniac'sYou all this is like the best meal your going to eat, certain elected people are going to antagonize certain other bullies in the house it will be a sh!t show.I love it when the house is at 6s and 7s, I will race home to catch up on all the yelling, the red faces, upset MLAS brushing past the media because they accomplished "Sweet f@ck all!Note to self: Harass CPAC to put Quebec House on. Merry Christmas you guys it was fun! Nanite SR
Any chances of the liberals and the CAQ joining forces against that mad woman?
S.R. after all the shit you and your kind have ingurgitated...your darling Marois is null. Hmmm...
Ok people I enjoyed this. I am glad my last election I voted in that made a difference. get the hell out of my town Bernard Généreux get a real job now!.
S.R. - Après 3 mandats de Charest, 9 ans de fédéralisme, le scandale de la corruption et les démonstrations étudiantes, ta chère marois perd des votes et n'obtient que 1.5% d'avance sur son adversaire. Si j'étais toi, je me demanderais pourquoi les québecois sont si froids envers Marois.
Ça signifie que le temps de sa chère Pauline est fini ! Il est temps qu'on s'en débarasse !WA
"Si j'étais toi, je me demanderais pourquoi les québecois sont si froids envers Marois"Parce que c'est une femme mais la toute première ministre de toute l'histoire du Québec.
Crois-tu tes congénères si sexistes?
Seriously sr, because she is a woman??? Do you really thunk qc is that backwards??
"Crois-tu tes congénères si sexistes?"Pas les hommes mais les femmes d'un certain âge,oui.
The PQ has been effectively neutered. No referendum. And this Government will fall on the budget vote in the spring. Stay tuned...
FROM ED BROWN TO DORCHESTERMyLord, don't be so sure. If Legault showsmhis true colours and goes with her, she will have the majority she needs. I'm hoping he and Charest are talking now. Charest can take another seat. Ed
No chance, Duchesneau (order of Canada recipient and CAQ Second Banana) is about as federalist as you can get. No way he'll walk down the isle with Marois on any issue.
FROM ED BROWNI'm delighted. I knew the Liberals were not ready to lay down. The question now is what will Legault do?Will he coalesce with the Libs or with Marois. She is perfectly happy with a minority government. All she really cares about is being Premier. Walking out in front of the press. The woman has an ego like Rambo. She smiles in the limelight and that's all she really wanted. Ed
There are still 3 seats even at this time for the PQ to lose 1 St Francois in the south eastern part of the eastern townships, papineau in western Quebec (both to libs) and Johnson to the CAQ.
Well in effect, the right side won. The PQ is forming a lameduck government and won't be able to push any of it's retarded laws through.Sorry S.R...maybe some other time. ;-)
Bad night for the ROC. I would have welcomed Marios telling Harper how things are to be done. Guess we will have to wait for a better time to get rid of Quebec...Shit.
PQ down to 55 vs PLQ 49, less than 1% lead in popular vote. (31.99% vs 31.01%)
55-49 PQ/PLQ... suck on that, S.R!Hahahahahhhhaaahahhaaa :-)
I should be mad but I'm actually happy. PQ is toast. After all this they have 6 or 7 seats in front of Libs. And not to think that she was voted not for her ideas but for a change...It will be limbo until next spring but a sweet one. If Charest and Legault will play smart we will see Marois from behind.Again so sorry for S.R...really sorry. I will continue to work in an anglophone environment, no need for french keyboards :-) :-) :-)...Thank you from the bottom of my heart that you've showed me that the hope is not lost in Quebec. Thank you that you proved the polls were wrong !!!!
I wonder if the PQ will now start internal squabbling. Marois is going to be on thin ice in the Parti Quebecois itself. I wonder how long before the PQ rank and file call for her turfing. She went all radical with her Quebec citizenship requirements and it still didn't work.
And btw, I cannot follow her speach...she's incoherent !!!
The winner - debatable. Depends how you look at it. The loser - uncontested: Leger Marketing."The people who invest all this money in polling are not doing it for nothing. They are not doing it just to find out what people think. They’re doing it to try to influence what people think. Who would spend all that money just to find out what was going on? They want to be able to predict it, and therefore to mold it. So it’s an intervention in the political process." - Christopher Hitchens (1992)
Leger's numbers are close to CROP's and FORUM. All of theme pegged the PQ and CAQ about right, but polled the PLQ lower and the QS higher than what happened.
I found it cheap that the QS already gave their support to Marois...Doesn't it feel like it did not matter that the people that gave the QS those 2 seats did Not vote for the PQ?
It seems that someone just tried to attack Marois...http://www.montrealgazette.com/Security+threat+victory+party/7190079/story.html
According to the feed on the Radio-Canada elections site, the gunman is alleged to have mumbled: "Anglos wake up" or words to that effect. Do I see an imminent collision of shit and fan?
The new DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED prime minister has not even finished her victory speech that an anglo tries to set fire to an entire building with thousands of people inside and is seen carrying a rifle. Funny how all you anglos on this blog are quick to call the québécois a hateful, racist bunch....''Les anglais sont arrivés'' well les anglais vont partir aussi !
Les anglais se réveillent (the anglos are waking up) you say ? Well, you just wait until the french wake up.@Calgarian in Montreal:I Hope you are right. I hope the shit hits the fan, and I hope it hits it BIG TIME. There needs to be radical change in this province, and maybe a crazy anglo tryign to set fire to an auditorium filled with thousands of seppies is the spark that was needed !
Good grief J.Tremblay, I dislike every ounce of that woman, but it does not mean that I would support harming her. Please do not make the mistake to put us all in the same bag, just as I do the same with the francophones...
Les Québécois se réveillent !
"There needs to be radical change in this province"I don't know if you've been paying attention, but the election just ended. Your talk is so August 2012.
@J.TremblayFais-moi confiance,si ils cherchent le trouble,il vont le trouver.
@Cutie003Was that you trying to burn down Métropolis or was that Ed Brown ? j/k You guys can take a joke right ?In all seriousness though this will be like catnip for seppies. Les Québécois: réveillez-vous, DEBOUT !!!!!!!
@adesskyI dont know if you've been paying attention but an anglo just shot two people inside Métropolis and set fire to the place. Radical change will come I suggest you be quiet my friend.
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Du calme J.T,attendons la suite des événements et de la conclusion des autorités.
Awful this is basically FLQ in reverse
The anglos are waking up is what he said eff sake when he was shooting
FROM ED BROWNTremblay, Perhaps it'e because we remember the FLQ. Murderers, kidnappers and bank robbers all supported by the PQ. Ed
FROM ED BROWNJose, I wouldn't even try because with my old eyesight I'd miss and blow off my toes. It must be some guy knocking off some beers wwayching the election and was overcome with disappointment. He should have stayed home and had another beer. We don't need that. Ed
@Ed BrownGet your head out of your ass. This was carefully planned and orchestrated. You dont just decide after three beers to head on over to Métropolis, shoot two people and set fire to the place. This was not a spur of the moment thing.
Well, except the guy was wearing his bathrobe...
@ED : If you still linked the FLQ to the PQ, 30+ years later, we will link this incident to the anti-franco sentiment for a very long time.
C'est pas le temps de se faire du capital politique sur cet événement svp.Tout le monde est triste. Ceux qui ne le sont pas sont des extrémistes.
Oh brother..now are all the radical francos going to jump over this as proof that anglos are all violent and dangerous. Thats the same as saying that all francophones are racist because of the youtube video that has been making the rounds with the the drunk guy. This guy is likely a mental case who again does not representative the anglo community at all..but I suspect the PQ will try to get everyone thinking about how dangerous we anglos are..give me a break..
1 person died according to CJAD
C'est confirmé Guillaume?
Ça vient d'être confirmé à TVA.
@S.R.Oui c'est confirmé. Il y a un décès par balle. L'anglais criait: Les anglais se réveillent, it's going to be fucking payback''
FROM ED BROWNWhat we need now is Charest to approach Legault for a coalition. If he waits she will find a way to pick up the other three votes that she needs. Some of Legaults people are his old PQ cronies who might be convinced to cross the floor for the right price.
@Ed BrownYou are off topic my old friend.When so much hatefull speech is spread throughout the anglophone community regarding seperatists and Pauline Marios no wonder som enut case will do something like this
FROM ED BROWNMarquez, These peoploe were never properly punished. They came back when the PQ was in power so they could get off light. What's 30 years? well to the family of Pierre Laporte it's like yesterday because he's still dead. All for the French language.By7 the way insults like get your head out of your ass are out of place on this site. Save that stuff for Craigslist RANTS AND RAVES where the lowlifes use it. Ed
I've got many anglo friends that basically talk about Pauline Marois like she is worst than Hitler. What the hell is worng with you guys ?