Friday, July 13, 2012

Why Carey Won't Speak French...

For unilingual francophone hockey fans in Quebec, the hiring last year of unilingually English Randy Cunneyworth, as coach of the Montreal Canadiens, was a painfully traumatic experience.
The underlining message, that French had crossed a tipping point and was no longer relevant in the NHL and more to the point, in Quebec, was a frightening development for those who can't speak English who had been promised by their leadership that they need not make the effort.

The issue of French and the Montreal Canadiens is particularly sensitive to French language militants because it strikes at the heart of their argument that learning English is not a necessity for the majority of Quebecers who work and live their lives exclusively in French.
But if hockey fans, of which there are a considerable amount among Quebecers, cannot directly understand what an English coach or player is saying, it becomes a powerful argument for learning English, an anathema to French language militants, and so the exaggerated reaction.

So panicked are these defenders of the French-only principle, that even if the Montreal Canadiens were forced to field an inferior team to satisfy the desire for players and coaches who speak French, it's a tradeoff that they are willing to make.
 One can only shudder if this rule is transmitted to general society, which unfortunately, methinks it is.
Just today, I read another tedious article, complaining that the wildly successful, Quebec Summer Festival is showcasing too many English artists. It's a rehash of the same old, same old, so I won't even offer a link.

Limiting the choice of a coach to those who speak French, eliminates 80-90% of candidates available and in the end quality must suffer.
That's how the Habs ended up with the universally panned and mediocre Michel Therrien as coach, culled from decidedly slim pickings.

But militants don't see it that way and continue to whine that players aren't making an effort to learn French once they alight in Montreal, just another reason for free-agents to strike Montreal from the list of possibilities.
As it is, Montreal is the city where the highest taxes are taken out of a player's paycheck. In fact, a player making $2 million gets the privilege of paying $200,000 more in taxes than that of a player toiling in sunny Florida! Salary Table

For French language militants, it's really just a case of wishful thinking, the idea that hockey players making millions of dollars will learn a foreign language in order to give a few interviews, for the few years they play hockey in Montreal.

For blowhard sports commentators like Rejean Tremblay, the old chestnut of 'Respect' is trotted out every time he demands that players on the Canadiens learn French, reminding his readers that it is the public that pays the players salaries.

Tremblay was particularly critical and scornful of Saku Koivu for playing twelve years in Montreal and never learning French, as if learning French was part of the job description.

He and other French language militants, remind we Anglophones, on a daily basis, that we owe the Francophone majority 'respect' purely based on our minority status.

What utter balderdash.

First things first, 'respect' is never owed, it is earned.

When a father whips out his belt and decides to teach his son some 'respect' with a few disciplinary whacks, one can hardly call what the child is learning 'respect'. Some might call it 'obedience,' some might call it 'fear,' but nobody should ever confuse it with 'respect.'

Pardon me if I don't believe that we Quebec Anglophones owe the Quebec Francophone majority any more respect than the Canadian Francophone minority owes to the Canadian Anglophone majority. (That was a mouthful!)

As for the idea that hockey players owe respect to their fans, because it is they who ultimately pay their salary, it's just another convoluted argument made to justify the demand that they learn French.
Try reminding the cop who pulls you over for speeding, that you pay his salary.

Hockey is a business, nothing else. The players are employees, nothing more.
They are paid to play hockey for a team and a league that operates in English alone.

Players come to Montreal, but few if any make it a home. Like contract oil workers sent to the middle east, most live in an English ghetto where nary a word of French is ever heard. Almost all go home when they're done with hockey.

When players do make Montreal their home, people like Hal Gill, who moved his American family here, embraced the city, his children learning French in school and his wife involved in charity work, they aren't given bonus points or preferential treatment by the fans or the Canadiens organization itself.
Gill was dumped rather unceremoniously for almost nothing in return and without any consideration for him or his family and his effort to integrate.

Hockey is cruel.
Players are expendable and exchangeable, to be bartered, traded and used up for what they are worth during their short career.
I'm no expert, but what is the average career of a player donning a Montreal Canadiens uniform? Two, three years?

As for players on the Canadiens learning to speak French, I'm afraid it's a fantasy driven by an unreasonable dream of what hockey is and what hockey players are. Link{Fr}

Today, players make too much money to be bothered shilling for car dealerships on the weekend and so learning French, a difficult process that takes years to achieve, solely for the purpose of giving out a few interviews seems hardly worth the bother

When Carey Price is done with Montreal, he'll go back home to BC.

While he is here, he'll live and work in English and remain part of the Anglo community in Montreal.
It is this fact that so peeves the likes of Mr. Tremblay and his ilk, that hockey players embrace the anglophone community, instead of the francophone majority.
But really, what would you expect?

Carey Price isn't going to learn French, just as those fans in the boonies aren't going to learn English
Such is reality.

As for Saku Koivu being a bad citizen for not learning French, I beg to differ.
He was a marvelous member of the Anglo community and helped raise money for a diagnostic unit in the Montreal General Hospital.
As for 'respect,' he too was dumped rather cruely and shipped off to Anaheim for a pittance, with zero consideration for anything else but business.

That's hockey, a business, an English business.

As for Mr. Tremblay, who makes a living covering sports, doing so means speaking English, which he does rather well.
Telling fans that players are showing bad faith by not learning French does a disservice to everyone, fans, players and the team.

Telling Carey Price to learn a third language, and newly drafted Alex Galchenyuk to learn a fourth, because fans cannot be bothered to learn a second, seems a bit cheeky.

It isn't going to happen just because people want it to happen. That is life.

There is a price (pardon the pun) to be paid for remaining unilingually French, despite what French language militants tell Quebecers, even for those who don't venture outside the friendly environs of Quebec.

Pretending that Quebec can be kept English-free is a pipe dream that can only be realized in a country like North Korea, but truth be told, it's something that the bilingual Mr.Tremblay already understands.

153 comments:

  1. Carey Price should never learn French, the new Russian shouldn't learn French, and why did Hal Gill even try? A Hab for less than 3 seasons, and it took the P.A. announcer to remind the moronic fans booing the American national anthem of the Habs players from the U.S.

    Quebec: Home of the brain-dead. Chien chaud and poutine put fat plaque in the brain and cause its majority populous to think irrationally!

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    1. >>Quebec: Home of the brain-dead. Chien chaud and poutine put fat plaque in the brain and cause its majority populous to think irrationally<<

      Feeling ok there buddy ?

      Btw, shouldn't you try learning English as well ? As in "populace"

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    2. Actually, why would they even bother to learn French. Quite frankly it is of absolutely no advantage for them. de rien, nada etc. The Editor is actually spot on with his commentary. They play the game, they make the money and then they move on. The French language is the last thing they likely think about. Come to think of it, probably the same thought as the majority of people in Canada outside of Quebec. Who cares for a language which is losing its place year after year. Of little consequenc!!

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    3. Sorry, at the risk of being admonished by anon 12:46, it should have been "Of little consequence" ;)

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    4. If hockey players decide to live in french Quebec then learning the language would be paramount. Hockey players however, for the most part, do not live there so why bother. Learning a few token words for a laugh in media scrums is probably a wise move but still not a life or death decision. Some in french Quebec do not bother learning English; why?...are they not crossing into english-World when they watch hockey. Therefore when English speaking players cross into some part of french-World they should have the same mindset. Maybe Core-French Quebec and the Montreal Canadiens should make a agreement whereas both will make efforts to learn each others language. Imagine the beloved Canadiens and NHL could be part of improving Canada by unifying it.
      Shawn, NB

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    5. "Btw, shouldn't you try learning English as well ? As in "populace""

      The Editor has stated several times that readers shouldn't be too picky about spelling errors and typos. It is the contents of posts that are important.

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    6. for any person its a choice they have to make for themselves wether it be french spanish italien or german etc. just to be understood anyware u visit in the world

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  2. "Chien chaud "

    Last time I was golfing in la belle province they called them a steamy. Or was it schteamy!! Sounds kind of anglo to me ;) Je vais prende deux "schteamy" avec moutarde et une biere SVP. Might become less poutine and more "chips et gravy" :) in coming times. So much for the French.

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    1. Or was it schteamy!! (?) (sic)...

      Non c'était plutôt Shticky.

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  3. Rejean Tremblay is a clown.... People should just ignore his Racist dogma......... especially the Canadiens management........

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    1. Dommage pour vous qu'il soit le commentateur sportif le plus lu des Québécois.

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    2. yeah but his news days are numbered!

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    3. Yeah, esp. the Habs management, but in the meantime they threw Randy Cunneyworth right under the bus...long before the end of the season, so all Cunneyworth was doing really was going through the motions. Michel Therrien already proved he's not the answer in more places than one, including the Habs! Marc Crawford should have been picked, but of course he doesn't have a @#$%& French name despite the fact he had his interview in French and responded in French. Are Rick Dudley et al going to have to learn French as well? Jesus Christ almighty!

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  4. Nous savons tous que la culture générale n'est pas l'apanage des "pousseux d'puck".Écoutez-les parler en globish et vous saisissez rapidement l'ampleur des dégâts causé par les multiples commotions cérébrales.Non,vraiment pas de place pour deux langues dans ces petites cervelles.

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  5. For every negative comment about a player, and their unwillingness to learn French, it adds another nail to the coffin as to recruiting the best and brightest players. Their are many, many players who tell their agents that Montreal shouldn't even be considered when trading due to the language and tax situation.

    People here have to realize that although we are paying their salaries, we are hiring them to entertain us with their expertise at playing hockey, not because of their ability to speak French. Just as we hire someone in the top of a company (Manager, Vice-President, President etc), we are hiring them for their expertise in managing the company or for what they do best. Their ability to speak French is not the main priority nor should it ever be.

    You want to ensure all the players speak French, then hire only French speaking players and you will see that just like the original team, you can't get enough good players on the team to compete against everyone else. That's why the original Montreal Canadiens team (a team that was originally organized by an Irishman - J. Ambrose O'Brien to represent the French community as a rivalry team with the Montreal Maroons) ended up hiring players other than French only.

    This place needs a good slap in the face of reality.

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    1. Anon, you're absolutely right. In the mid-1980s, a former NHL backup goalie, Rick Heinz, wrote a very good book about the transition from juniors to the pros in hockey. Heinz's career was only 49 games and it was probably because of what he went through just to play 49 games is what made the book an interesting read. Check out Abebooks.com to find it if you're interested as it's out of print.

      Anyway, there was a portion of his book where he talked about three hocky territories in North America: The U.S., Canada and Quebec! Yup, even back then Quebec was a "distinct society" in the world of hockey.

      Hall of Famer defenseman Rod Langway wanted out of Montreal (and Canada altogether) because of the taxes. Former goalie Dan Bouchard, who played for Calgary before being traded to the Nordiques, started bitching big-time after he got (what was left of) his first paycheque of how much the Quebec taxes were (vs. Alberta, the lowest taxed province). All kinds of free agents out there and all Montreal can procure are the leftovers who can't get jobs elsewhere like Jeff Halpern two years ago and Chris Campoli last year. YE GAD! A jew and an Italian...no French?

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    2. With all due respect, Jeff Halpern was a solid addition to the 4th line who only made minimum wage. He was actually a nice change from the AHL level, quota filling francophones who often populated the Habs‘ bottom lines.

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    3. Yes, J.J., Halpern had a good season with the Habs, but he has reached an age where he is a sort of utility player. Not a big scorer, but a respectable face-off guy (except the one he lost that put the Habs out of the playoffs in the 7th game O.T. last year, but then again, it's not fair to judge one faceoff. Then he goes back "home" to Washington, and now he just signed with the Rangers for one season. This will be the balance of his career, one year at a time.

      Chris Campoli came to the Habs because nobody else offered him a one-way contract, and haven't rushed to resign him for next season. Maybe come September (barring another player strike) some team will look at the margins of their roster and give him a go.

      No marginal French speaking players? Tsk tsk tsk...

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    4. Isn't it practically impossible for a hockey player to learn French?

      If the season is, say, 8 months long, they are away for 4 months. When they are home they have to practice and play, spend time with their wives or girl friends, attend to the daily shopping and other chores. Taking a French course or hiring and spending time with a tutor has a comparatively low priority and even then there is so little time in which to do it that learning French is a practical impossibility.

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    5. Anton,

      It may not be impossible. But for the players, why? What is in it for them?

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    6. "People here have to realize that although we are paying their salaries, we are hiring them to entertain us with their expertise at playing hockey, not because of their ability to speak French. "

      Wouldn't it be brilliant to see some hockey player make this comeback the next time he's asked the "So, are you going to learn French?" question on TV, instead of ducking and evading it ;-)

      We are only here temporarily, but I'm making the effort to learn French because I am a translator and EFL trainer who can already speak 4 other languages (3 of them fluently) and I want to have another one under my belt. It's a great challenge for me and I love being able to dive into the culture of the place I live in by learning the language.

      My husband is an aeronautical engineer who did nothing to learn German while we lived in Germany or to learn Italian while we lived in Italy. It just wasn't on his radar (he did pick up a lot of German by osmosis, though, because we lived there for nearly 10 years in total, but each time, we didn't know how long we would be staying beyond the next 6 months).

      I think that it is a very useful skill to speak as many languages as possible and this is a value that I'd like to pass onto my children. However, there are other skills that are also useful and if they decide this isn't a priority for them in the way it is for me, then so be it. I'm not living their lives and I wish certain people would stop trying to dictate to people who are only living in their city temporarily how to live theirs.

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  6. I just love the irony - in the ROC or America if you dare to live without knowing English all kinds of people will put you down and tell you you are close-minded, refuse to join Canadian society, and have no respect for the majority who has graciously allowed you to immigrate here (unless you are a francophone, in which case arrogance is blamed). But when it happens to anglophones, all of a sudden it becomes the hallmark of a fascist, racist, revanchist society.

    You know what I think it is? I think it's that anglophones, so used to be dominant in every sphere across the globe, take very poorly to the role of minority/immigrant where suddenly they are the ones who are expected to learn a second language. That is why what they think is a natural expectation in any anglophone country in the world is all of a sudden supremacy-talk of KKK dimensions.

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    1. And yes, I know hockey players are a different animal.

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    2. "where suddenly they are the ones who are expected to learn a second language."

      On les tient par les couilles :)

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    3. Anonymous at 11:40,

      We had this kind of discussion in this blog some time ago. adski gave us a very good example. Guus Hiddink coached in Russia and in South Korea while not speaking the languages. He did so well in Korea (he brought Korea to the 4th place at 2002 World Cup), the Koreans named a stadium after him.

      There are other examples of athletes of coaches not speaking the language of the host, yet they are acceptable and they do not receive racist treatment Randy Cunneyworth did.

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    4. "I just love the irony - in the ROC or America if you dare to live without knowing English all kinds of people will put you down and tell you you are close-minded, refuse to join Canadian society, and have no respect for the majority who has graciously allowed you to immigrate here"

      I'm trying real hard but I'm not seeing any irony. The issue here is proportion, not that in QC it happens and in the RoC it never does. It's about how in QC it happens every day, and it's not just street-talk, but a rhetoric employed by politicians and major media players.

      Another issue is "respect", which in QC stands in for the much more non-PC (and therefore unused) "privilege". Accusations of being "close minded", and "refusing to join the larger society" do pop up on the streets of the RoC, especially in the ethnically diverse cities, but does the word "respect" come up as well? I don't think so. Respect is used almost uniquely in QC. It's a word that, at this point in time, has a life of its own in this province. It is hammered mercilessly and incessantly into people heads, so that not a day goes by without tv or papers "reminding" people how "disrespected" they are, by dredging up really minor stuff from the lives of QC residents. There is definitely a concerted effort in this province to take people's attention away from the relevant, and focus their attention on the blown out of proportion irrelevant.

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    5. where suddenly they are the ones who are expected to learn a second language."

      On les tient par les couilles :)

      Wow, how does it feel to hold other men's genitalia? you like it ???

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    6. Essayez-le et vous constaterez par vous-même à moins que vous soyez ambivalent sur vos attirances sexuelles.

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    7. @Anonymous 11:40

      Why are you so concerned what happens in the ROC or the U.S., a foreign country? Why not focus on what has happened and is happening in Quebec?

      The facts about Quebec are well known. Francophone politicians, for a variety of reasons, but, in particular, in an effort to perpetuate themselves in power and ensure their financial futures through egregious pension plans, enacted legislation that repealed English as an official language, thereby depriving a significant percentage of the population of their rights. This was clearly an abuse of power and federal politicians lacked the integrity to exercise the federal disallowance power.There followed more abusive legislation , sinking even to the level of prescribing the size of display on signs. Scarcely a day goes by in Quebec when there is not a story on some aspect of the language problem, even from some pissant sportswriter who otherwise has nothing interesting to say about anything. While all this goes on, numerous people leave Quebec, thereby, among other things, reducing its tax base. Quebec is left to attempt to attract immigrants who speak or want to learn to speak French, resulting in an element in its population who have no interest in the indepence of Quebec and who, in some instances, are highly resistant to both Quebec and Canadian values. It's all a dead end. If Quebec were a business, its business plan would be a failure. Since Quebec is not a country, Quebec does not have its own currency and the only way out for Quebec is to raise taxes or do things like increase tuition fees of all kinds on the individual taxpayer.Pots and pans, anyone?

      As Editor pointed out, respect must be earned. Who can respect anyone who uses the excuse of collective rights to take away the existing rights of others?

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    8. Need I remind Anonymous at 11:40, " L'argent et la vote ethnique" from Referendum Night 1995.. if that's not RACIST then what is?

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    9. No no no, that was merely Parizite providing a statistical analysis of the vote.

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    10. It was Parazite reformulating what DAniel Johnson said when Union Nationale lost an election: "we lost because of the English and the Jews" . And it was ever thus. Blame everyone else for your failures.

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    11. "There followed more abusive legislation , sinking even to the level of prescribing the size of display on signs. "

      The half-size size regulation came in effect only in 1993. Between 1977 and 1993, it was much worse: bill 101 ruled that non-French languages (real target: English) were completely banned from public space.

      The 1993 amendment came as a result of pressure exerted on QC by the UN. It was not because of goodwill or decency of QC politicians.

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    12. I would never suggest goodwill or decency on the part of Quebec politicans.

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  7. Editor,

    I know (or at least I think I know) that you do not follow anything else other than hockey seriously. But if we look at the other professional teams in Montreal, namely the Alouettes and the Impact, the problem is even more prevalent.

    You see, Quebec, and Canada in general, pay too much attention in hockey. Young athletes aspire to play hockey and very focused on it. Therefore, Canada does not have that many performing athletes in other sports. I read it many times here and there that it may be among Canadians playing junior hockey all around the world there are that could make it big as a wide receiver or as a midfielder. Beside hockey other reasons may be the climate of Canada that makes it hard to train for on-field sports all year and the geographic spread of Canada makes it harder to train and to compete.

    All of that is to say that there are not too many good football and soccer coaches and players from Quebec. Therefore if one thinks that the Canadiens is too English, the Impact is even more English and the Alouettes is virtually all-English. If one does not speak English, what is the best other language to have in the Impact? French? Definitely not. It is Italian, followed by Spanish then French. In the Alouettes? While some speak French, all speak English; all coaches, the GM and the owner are unilingual English.

    While there are one or two criticisms thrown against those two teams regarding language issues, critics are relatively quiet. One can argue that they are so minor they are not nearly as important in the life of Quebecers as the Canadiens. Or, and this is my opinion, critics are silent against those two teams because they know that there is no way out of the situation. Asking those two teams to be more "French" is asking the impossible. Unlike hockey, the options are really slim in football and in soccer. Anybody asking that the teams field more French-Quebecers is equal to asking the team to either move or fold.

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    1. well, I don't think the MMF have enough balls to go protest at a allouette practice since the big black boys would easily put them right in their place with their tackle and body check skills....

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    2. Et la police qui débarque pour tabasser et électrocuter les "big black boys",nous savons tous que nos policiers adorent les "big black boys" :D

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    3. Anonymous at 15:05,

      Thank you for the laugh. I would pay good money to see Shea Emry (a white boy from British Columbia) tackles Mario Beaulieu...

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    4. Imaginez les rires maintenant si nous assistions à un combat d'idées entre le gros Emry et les gens du MMF....MDR!!!

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    5. S.R,

      When was the MMF and its members have any debate and exchange of ideas? All they do is forcing their thoughts to others, without any honest and intellectual discussion.

      If you know otherwise, please let me know the time, the place and the subject.

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  8. I LOVE FOOTBALL!!

    I played in my youth for NDG!
    Back then we played in a basically Anglo league which included; St. Lambert, Chateauguay, CSL, North Shore and St.Leonard.
    I still get fond memories every time I drive by Seaway Park!
    You're right about French in soccer & football, nobody cares about French because it isn't seen as the 'national' sport.

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    1. Editor,

      That is my first point. You miss my second point. My hypothesis is that as dumb and as silly as the separatists are, they are smart enough not to attack the Alouettes and the Impact. The reason, I think, is because they know that there are not enough - in quality and in quantity - of Quebec alternatives to the teams.

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    2. Editor,

      Watching a CFL football game tonight, something just dawned on me. Unlike in hockey or soccer, one really CAN NOT play professional football without knowing English.

      Unlike hockey and soccer, football relies on verbal communication. Before each play, the quarterback calls the play. Since ALL CFL quarterbacks and most of the coaches are Americans, playcalls are always in English. Not to mention that vast majority of football tactics and plays come from NCAA or NFL.

      So, this is to augment your argument. One can not be a unilingual francophone and play professional football, even with the Montreal Alouettes or, with a small miracle, the future team in Quebec City.

      If the language zealots are aware of this reality, it must be very hard for them to swallow. While they are simply no match for NCAA FBS schools, Laval University and Universities of Sherbrooke and Montreal produce quite a number of Canadian players. ALL of those players speak English, even if one is a francophone.

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  9. Going a little bit off topics, did you hear about the case involving a guy who got humiliated in a Montreal subway station by two customer service employees who told him that they didn’t serve anglos in a very mean way?

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    1. did you hear about the case involving a guy who got humiliated in a Montreal subway station by two customer service employees who told him that they didn’t serve anglos in a very mean way

      Gosh, "in a very mean way"

      Poor anglos
      Cry me a river
      hahahahahhahaha

      As pointless and meaningless as the perennial grand-mere asked to "speak white" in Eaton's, this story has absolutely nothing to it and could never interest a normal person who wasn't bitterly devoted to a phony "culture war"

      Like anyone should care about this kind of utterly petty triviality

      YAWN

      Montreal anglos are as BORING and as YESTERDAY as les séparatistes

      Grow up and deal with reality already

      Yes, the STM csr's come off petty and stupid in this anecdote. YAWN.
      Got real problems to exert caring about.

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    2. Yet another black eye for Montreal thanks to cosseted STM employees who are there to serve the public, not the other way around. At this CBC article, have a glance at the 100+ comments so far from all over ridiculing us yet again (including from embarrassed francophones).

      I’ve lived in many countries on several continents and never have I encountered this type of “language attitude” by public transportation employees anywhere in the world. On the contrary, if there’s no common language, they invariably go out of their way with body language to be helpful and accommodating to the public. Only in poor old Quebec with its perpetual insecurity have I ever heard of such blatant intolerance and disrespect toward the public. What a disgrace.

      I shudder to think that stories such as this presage the sorry hellhole that Montreal will surely sink to should the intolerant racist seppies ever get a free hand to turn Quebec into their idolized French-only utopia and an intolerant bubble of xenophobia.

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    3. I'm sorry but It's not exactly rocket science to ask for a metro pass in French.... You could even find out what to say from a tourist french phrasebook.

      Not trying to speak French at all just comes across as arrogant and doing it to STM employees is just asking for trouble. Pick your battles...

      Everyone harps on about a billingual country blah blah blah. Ok so that means I can go to a metro station in Toronto and demand to be served in French? And then complain to the media? Seriously think about it.

      The official language of Quebec is French. Regardless of whether the province is still part of Canada or not. Torontonians are under no obligcation to service you in French, so it makes no difference for QC to have to serve you in English. I also bet more Francophones speak English than Rest of Canadians speak French anyway.

      And by the way, I'm British, I live in Quebec, speak broken French but try to speak it every time. I have never had any animosity about not speaking French well and have more Francophone friends than English.

      I blame the media most of time. The english media for continually trying to make out the entire community is persecuted, and I blame the French media for making out all Francophones hate English. Most of the young Francophones I know, are either learning English or would do anything they could to speak English. Meanwhile, most Anglophones who don't speak it, couldn't care less to learn.

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    4. BritinQC,

      So you are a Briton, eh? Let me just give you the benefit of the doubt and say that I believe you. I wrote this before, strange that you do not try to try the discussion from there.

      While the STM employees may be within their rights not to serve the customers in other language than French, they have ZERO right to be condescending, rude, racist and discriminative.

      Imagine a situation where there were Italian or Spanish tourists who did not speak English tried to purchase the tickets to ride the Tube. When the went to the ticket offices they were then told, "We do not sell ticket to Italians / Spanish." What would you think the British media, or the British society, would say?

      I can attest the condition myself. Some time ago I was in New York and I wanted to take the MTA Subway. There was a family of Japanese tourists trying to purchase tickets. They spoke very limited English. The ticketing staff tried to explain to them patiently with the map and then showed them the amount of money needed to purchase the tickets. Needless to say, the ticket agent spoke no Japanese.

      You see, my examples are what a normal, sane and decent society would do. I am afraid that the noise regarding English vs French is slowly but surely perverting the sense of decency in some part of the French-Quebecer society.

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    5. The official language of Quebec is French. Regardless of whether the province is still part of Canada or not. Torontonians are under no obligcation to service you in French, so it makes no difference for QC to have to serve you in English. I also bet more Francophones speak English than Rest of Canadians speak French anyway.
      Your example is as intellectually disingenuous as those PQ politicians who strove to pass bill 101 with the goal of MAKING Montreal as French as Toronto was English. We were and are a bilingual metropolis and hiding bigotry and English-impairment of a service employee behind the whole "the official language is French" is a dead-wringer for a losing moral argument, especially given our city's cultural, historical, and geographical context. Also, when we're the minority (2% francophones surrounded by 350 million anglophones), we can't afford the linguistic chauvinism and need to promote our language positively. "On est au Québec"? Sure. But we're also in North America, and our delusions of grandeur aside, it behooves us to speak the true "common" language.

      I blame the media most of time. The english media for continually trying to make out the entire community is persecuted, and I blame the French media for making out all Francophones hate English. Most of the young Francophones I know, are either learning English or would do anything they could to speak English. Meanwhile, most Anglophones who don't speak it, couldn't care less to learn.
      I agree that the media exacerbates and contributes toward escalating the problem. But your overgeneralization of anglophones is either the product of misinformation or a self-serving and deliberately propagated anachronism. The vast majority of the ones that didn't want to bother learning French left decades ago and the ones that stayed are now rightfully showing the militant French-language supremacists both middle fingers... as well they should.

      The rest of us are perfectly fine with both languages and are very accommodating in either one, as we should be.

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    6. Aппара́тчик,

      Three cheers for you.

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    7. The official language of Quebec is French.

      and the official languages of Canada are both French and English. So I would assume in a place like Montreal, where both languages have a fair share of lands on the island, Services offered in English would also apply in customer service. You seem to have been misinformed, so can you tell me who you hang out with?

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      Спасибо.

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    9. BritinQC, what do you suppose “official language” means? It means the language that the government uses for administration. It is not the same as lingua franca and it most certainly does not mean that it is the only language allowed to be used in public.

      English is not a foreign language in Quebec. It has been spoken and used here for centuries and for generations. Believe it or not, despite the best efforts of the hateful PQ, anglophones are not second-class citizens here, nor has the PQ yet managed to make it illegal to speak English in public.

      As a (presumably) recent arrival, you have evidently fallen into the trap that the PQ is hoping people like you will fall into. The fallacy that “Montreal should be as French as Toronto is English” was invented by the vile péquiste, Camille Laurin. I will go out on a limb here and guess you don’t even know who he was. Suffice it to say that the history of anglophones in Montreal is completely different from that of francophones in Toronto and there is no reason whatsoever why the two should be equated in any way, shape or form.

      Clearly you have no recollection of the history of Montreal or Quebec or Canada. Anglophones have a long history in Quebec and were instrumental in developing Quebec’s economy. Montreal was the metropolis of Canada for over 3 centuries until the PQ got elected. You have not witnessed the systematic whittling away of English from public life since then, nor the mean-spirited attempt at erasing our history by renaming historic place names and street names with French-only names.

      Despite your anecdotal evidence, official bilingualism does not mean (and never has meant) wall-to-wall bilingualism from sea to sea. The fact is that Montrealers are by far the most bilingual population in Canada, that most anglophones here are bilingual and it is cosseted francophones protected by racist laws who insist on remaining mostly unilingual. Incidentally, you don’t have six generations of your ancestors buried on Mount Royal. Many of us come from mixed French/English backgrounds and don’t want to pick one side over the other. French has never been subjected to the aggressive persecution that English currently is. What you are seeing today is a concerted government effort to artificially create an image of French-only as the sole medium of communication when such as never been the case in the history of Quebec. It is an act of “linguistic cleansing”.

      Are you seriously suggesting that if someone in Toronto or London who doesn’t speak English wanted to buy a metro ticket, the ticket agent would rightfully refuse them service? Are you suggesting you believe it’s acceptable for someone who serves the public to state “I don’t serve (insert name of ethnic group here)” without being reprimanded?

      You could equally argue that it is not exactly rocket science to sell someone a metro pass even if asked in English and that it comes across not only as arrogant but discriminatory to refuse to serve the public. It is also arrogant and presumptuous for a newcomer like you to lecture us with your ill-considered commentary about the language situation here.

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    10. Les temps changent le chat,Montréal ne redeviendra jamais anglophone.Adaptez-vous.

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    11. Times change, Anonymous, Montreal is becoming more and more English while French is losing ground. Adapt yourself.

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    12. Cat : +1, that's exactly what official bilingualism means

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    13. Thanks, Yann, although I think you meant to write "official language". Just for the record though, "official bilingualism" means having access to federal services (such as income tax offices and national parks) in both French and English across the country.

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  10. "...a guy who got humiliated..." ?

    La prochaine fois il parlera la langue de la Nation.

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    1. Yes, la langue de la Nation de Canada est 'ENGLISH' !! La langue du République de Banane est 'français' !!!

      Like it or not, it is the job of francophones to learn the English language in order to understand the working language of Canada, North America & the world. Your French language is so insignificant to the world except of course your 'Québec world' which is almost as insignificant as your language.

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    2. "La prochaine fois il parlera la langue de la Nation."

      There is also a likelihood that he'll come to resent your language...

      It can go both ways.

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    3. I see the racists are out in full force before the weekend.

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    4. Most of the one or two liner racist comments are coming from one schmuck troll, who posts under different names (S.R. etc.). He even responds to his own comments - this happened in the Wednesday, July 11 thread.

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    5. This is the multiple time events like this happen. While the STM employees may be within their rights not to serve the customers in other language than French, they have ZERO right to be condescending, rude, racist and discriminative.

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    6. "they have ZERO right to be condescending, rude, racist and discriminative."

      Les anglos n'ont aucun droit d'être irrespectueux en s'adressant aux Québécois en globish.

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    7. Les anglos n'ont aucun droit d'être irrespectueux en s'adressant aux Québécois en globish
      Hahahahahahah

      As if English is in and of itself "disrespectful" to French

      Weak mindset that believes 'French' and 'English' are opposite sides of a coin
      When really there are many languages
      Quebec anglos and francos are obsessed with their stupid languages

      It is just language, just words words words as Shakespeare said
      No big deal

      Get over it quebecker anglos and francos

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    8. Du hast fast Recht, Anonymous bei 5:54pm

      There are years of anger and fear and negativity and I think that "two wrongs don't make a right".

      I have to say that I love confusing the hell out of racist Quebecois types by speaking German and Italian to my kids and Afrikaans and Zulu with my husband and then French to them all in one conversation - it's a great game. ;-)

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  11. "la langue de la Nation de Canada est 'ENGLISH'"

    Et au Québec c'est le français...Que vous aimiez ou non.

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      We do not like it, so what are you going to do about it? Pass some more fascist legislation? Hire more language police? You can't do anythingany more . You will never have respect when all you can do is dwell on revenge for some imagined wrong. Count your blessings that you and your ancestors were never subjected to mass murder, torture, dicrimination and bigotry. If that did not destroy some of us, do you think your pathetic, petty attempts to discriminate will? The youth of Quebec love English culture and want to be part of North America. We and they do not care what you want anymore. The youth of Quebec could not care less about politics. Do you think that they want to join some antiquated and sorry group of losers like the SSJB? Do not judge the youth of Quebec by the strikers who were a minority of the youth of Quebec.

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    2. "The youth of Quebec could not care less about politics."

      Sur quelle planète étiez-vous les six derniers mois ?

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    3. Toujours agréable de voir une idiote parler au nom d'un groupe tout entier et de généraliser de cette façon.Pa-thé-tique!

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    4. Toujours agréable de voir un idiot qui se réplique à lui-même. Pa-thé-tique!

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    5. The majority of francophone students were in their classes and not on strike. You are just a small person with small ideas unworthy of respect.

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    6. Arrêtez de parler au nom des autres,votre manque d'intérêt et/ou de connaissances pour la sphère politique n'implique que vous et quelques moutons sans conviction.En passant,cessez de vous prendre pour une anglo...Ça ne colle pas.

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    7. I am getting to you, eh? You always claim to speak for francophones, but all you do is typify the petty, narrow minded, insular separatist who leads a vacuous existence dreaming of some greater glory

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    8. "The youth of Quebec love English culture and want to be part of North America."

      Pas au point d'être assimilé et de perdre notre culture...Désolé.Better luck next time :)

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    9. Sorry you‘ve already assimiliated. French speaking north americans, thats all.

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    10. @ Dereck P

      Please explain how your culture differs from North American culture.

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    11. D'ou l'absurdité de cette de cette affirmation:

      "The youth of Quebec love English culture and want to be part of North America."

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    12. Dereck = 1 Mélanie = 0

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    13. Dereck P and Anonymous, you are likely the same troll. In any event, you will find it painful to hear but you are too old to relate to my generation of students. We, English and francophone students, meet in clubs where older people like you never set foot. We listen and dance to mainly American music and enjoy rap music. We discuss films (mainly American) and exciting places we have travelled to or want to travel to like New York, San Francisco, Los Angeles, London, Paris, Costa Rica. We talk about hiking and camping. We go out in groups to restaurants and some of us date each other. We stay in touch through texting. We have no time in our lives to worry about politicians like your Dear Leader Pauline Marois and her obviously phony embrace of striking students or to dream your unrealistic dreams. We are more interested in studying, acquiring a profession and later having a family. I reiterate that we are the serious students, the majority who did not go out on strike, the ones you do not read or hear about in the media. Undoubtedly, you will post some glib remark which you think is very clever, but it will simply evidence how time has passed you by.

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    14. Melanie 10 Dereck 1...the One line wonder with an English name ha ha ha

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    15. New York, San Francisco, Los Angeles, London, Paris et...Costa Rica ?!?

      Y'a quelque chose qui cloche,Non?

      Mercedes,BMW,Ferrari,Porsche et...Honda :D

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    17. I have a masters degree in mathematics and can write software code. All you can do is write a crude real about a woman. Your Hand must be working overtime tonight . Are you fantasizing about Pauline Marois?

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    18. "I have a masters degree in mathematics and can write software code"

      Tu ne dois pas avoir beaucoup de succès avec les hommes.J'aimerais bien comparer la féminité de Pauline avec la tienne.

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    19. Tu sais OQLF que je déteste les personne complexées qui se servent de leur(s) diplôme(s) comme bouclier...Bon moi j'vais prendre ma p'tite bière au bar du coin et écouter de la musique étrangère en rêvant au...Costa Rica :D

      Bon week end à tous et bonne fête Nationale les Français!

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    20. Editor,

      Is ad hominem attack allowed?

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    21. I have a masters degree in mathematics and can write software code. All you can do is write a crude real about a woman. Your Hand must be working overtime tonight.

      Never did a tweet or post read like such sweet sweet ASCII music...

      If you actually are a "Melanie", the cherry on the sundae is indeed that it comes from a woman with a masters degree in math that can code... Chapeau!

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    22. "Is ad hominem attack allowed?"

      Comme votre stupide comparatif d'images entre notre fête Nationale avec celle des célébrations sur les champs élysées ?

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    23. Anonymous at yesterday 20:22,

      Do you understand what ad hominem is? Clue: it is not an English phrase.

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    24. @Anonymous 10:23

      You are indeed out of touch with our generation, whose vacation of choice during winter break is a trip to Costa Rica.

      Costa Rica is a country covered in rain forest that rises from one ocean to 12,000 feet and drops back to sea level in the space of 70 miles. We have hiked through the rain and cloud forests or along the beaches, windsurfed at Lake Arenal, gone to Arenal for volcano watching and to see the lava flows, fire belching and rolling smoking boulders, taken zip-line thrill rides through the tree tops, cruised canals, wetlands and mangroves, scuba dived, snorkelled and done so many other things..

      There is a whole world out there. You cannot just go to Florida all the time. Go to Costa Rica. You will love it. Even if at your age you do not wish to engage in some of the physical activities I mentioned above, you could enjoy birdwatching. You will find plenty of serious bird watchers and qualified guides to fill you in on the habits and natural history of the species you see.

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    26. Dommage il était plutôt amusant mon commentaire :)

      Editor n'a pas le sens de l'humour aujourd'hui...

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    27. Y'a rien qui bat Old Orchard beach

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    28. You seem to have illustrated Melanie's point. You love the USA. Old Orchard Beach, Maine, U.S.A. Emphasis on Old.

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    29. I would rather visit Costa Rica than any of the major cities mentioned. I love nature and Costa Rica is a tropical paradise.

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  12. The Gov't of Canada mistakenly gave the power of education, language and immigration to the province of Québec. The Gov't of Québec then decided to make the province of Québec a unilingual French society. Funny, that's the exact thing the French didn't want the British to do to Canada when they won the war on the plains of Abraham which was to make English to only language.

    A few hundred years later, the French slap the English in the face by making Québec a unilingual French society with laws that restrict access to English educational facilities, (another thing the French wanted was their own French schools), limit English on signs (which in most cases is non-existant anyway), then ensures that they make life so intolerable for English people that non want to move here and the majority of young well educated want to leave.

    Well done Québec, a real recipe for economic stimulous and a recipe to make everyone feel like they are part of the family so that all can live in harmony. If you were being judged by the world as to best place to live, you'd be so far behind the RoC that you wouldn't even be seen in the rear view mirror.

    Let's once and for all make Canada an English country with a French minority population. Making English the true official language of all of Canada.

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    1. Actually, It was Queen Victoria that ordered the French in Quebec would keep their Freedom of Religion and Language. When she asked the leaders of France if they would like to keep Quebec as a colony they said they would prefer to have the Islands St.Pierre and Miquelon They said Quebec was nothing but ice, snow and Indians. This was their Mother country speaking for them.
      In WW1 and WW2 English from Britain and Canada and Australia marched into France to rout their enemies and hand them back their country. Asa thank you De Gaulle ( who had been in hiding in England throuout WW2 tried to block England from entering the European Economic Union.
      During WW2 Quebec had over 50,000 Christian Brothers who had joined so they wouldn't have to fight for their mother country. There are very few left now. edbrown@bell.net

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  13. Yes, la langue de la Nation de Canada est 'ENGLISH' !!

    Hein?
    Le Canada a deux belles langues, l'anglais et le français, parmi beaucoup d'autres. Le Québec, l'Ontario, les Maritimes, l'Alberta, etc.

    Heureusement; c'est meilleux être bilingue.

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  14. Making English the true official language of all of Canada.

    Je ne voit aucun utilité en cette proposition.

    Le Canada est ce qu'il est actuellement a cause du travail des premiers ministres et des cabinets et des parlements en français et anglais. Serait le Canada le même aujourd'hui sans Laurier, ou LaFontaine (parmi beaucoup d'autres).

    Si le Canada avait une langue officielle, c'est quoi que serait si différent et mieux, je me demande?

    D'ailleurs, je n'aime pas regarder les sports. Si on voudrais en jouer, bien, je jouerai aussi... mais pas regarder. Je ne connais ni Carey Price ni les chefs d'équipe, etc...

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  16. "Mr. Harper is currently looking into scrapping the OLA"

    Harper n'en a pas pour très longtemps :)

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    1. ATTENTION Captaine QuEbEcOiS
      "No more stupid French scribbles uglifying up my cereal box, thank you very much!"
      That is what got the comment removed

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    2. I was going to say. Captaine Quebecois, I understand the topics here are emotional. Be it as it may, in QC 7 million people speak French, and some across Canada. They can't just be dismissed with insults. Let's reserve insults to their elites and their puppets (like Rejean Tremblay). Essentially the people who actively manipulate and divide the popluation.

      As for the regular folks who fall for this manipulation, are they complicit or not? I do hold grudges against people in general for hitting the mute button and deferring to their elites (and falling for their crap, for letting them scare them and for being so vain as to fall for the "you're so special" nonsense), but at the same time I see these people as victims. Contradictory view, I know, but I can't escape it.

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    3. Adski, je suis completement d'accord avec vous, je vois ces gens aussi comme des victimes, des politiciens, surtout du nationalisme, ses effets.

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  18. Editor, you are correct.

    What nerve of the militants to demand that their players speak french!

    If there was a pride to play for the Canadians, then all the french players would be lining up to sign up on the Canadians team.

    But guess what? They French players realize they have a talent and want to be compensated for their talent and hard work, and not be tied up by a stupid language issue.

    Apparently its not even important for them as most Habs aren't even French.

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    1. Take a dime out of petty cash! When Daniel Brière's contract in Buffalo was up, the Habs tried to woo him but he took a pass and went to Phillie. I don't see Claude Giroux, Pascal Dupuis, Marc-André Fleury, Vince Lecavalier, etc. etc. etc. exactly hopping to join the Habs. See my piece on ex-NHL goalie Rick Heinz and his book above. In fact, here is the portal link: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=3237563911&searchurl=an%3DRick%2BHeinz%26sts%3Dt The book is called "Many are Called, Few are Signed".

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  19. Do francophones control their economy after all the fascist language legislation? What industries do francophones in the private sector control?

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  20. Speaking of players who don't speak the native language---did former Montreal Expo Vladimir Guerrero ever learn French, because to the best of my knowledge he hasn't learned English. I don't think the fact that he primarily spoke Spanish was ever an obstacle for him in Anaheim, Arlington, or Baltimore. Was it in Montreal?

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  21. How come all Barcelona FC players speak Catalan?

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    1. Perhaps they're all local? Did David Beckham learn Castillian when he joined Real Madrid?

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    2. @Anonymous, you are misinformed.

      FC Barcelona major players are:
      • Cesc Fábregas - Catalan
      • Daniel Alves da Silva - Brazilian
      • Gerard Piqué Bernabe- Brazilian
      • Sergio Busquets - Catalan
      • Seydou Keita- Mali
      • Víctor Valdés -Catalan
      • Carles Puyol - Catalan
      • Xavi - Catalan
      • Rafael Marquez - Mexican
      • Andres Iniesta - Catalan
      • Lionel Messi - Argentinian
      • Eric Abidal- French

      The languge spoken on the pitch is Spanish in games as well as in practices.

      BTW just walk through Barcelona on a typical day, 9 out of every 10 conversations on the streets are all in Spanish, and in certain barrios like El Raval it is 100% without exception.

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    3. @Troy

      I've noticed that on the FCB web site and other we sites that cater to Catalans, what we call Spanish is called Castillian ("castellano") because Catalans resent the idea that their native language isn't Spanish because it is a minority.

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  22. Totally out of topic:

    Bonne fête nationale, tout le monde!

    Of course I am writing about le 14 juillet, Bastille Day. It was a nice Saturday morning to watch the celebration. It is my favorite national day celebration since for me the 14 July parade is the BEST national day parade in the world, bar none.

    For those who still think that Quebec is practically a French country, consider this. Compare these pictures of Quebec and French National Day Parades.

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    1. For some reason the link to the French National Day Parade is broken. Here, another picture of the parade for my argument above.

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    2. Now that's a picture of class and pride ...a BIG difference between Quebec's parade ....a mob appearance with home made looking maniquins....

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  23. Brilliant. I can't stop chuckling.

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  24. C'est fou ce qu'on peut faire dire aux images tout comme les chiffre d'ailleurs.Troy,je pourrais faire le même exercice avec la fête des vrais Anglais (Angleterre) et certains hillbillies du Roc mais à quoi bon ?

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      You want to post pictures to compare England and Canada? Not easy, I think since, like Quebec, England is not a country while Canada is. But if you do have ones, go ahead.

      Let me help you in comparing Canada and the United Kingdom. Actually, they do not need to be compared as they are allies to each other. See here and here. You want the comparison with Quebec? Fine. These men are ones of the popular icons of the British Monarchy. And these men are proud Quebecers, most of them - if not all - are francophones. Can you see where the allegiance of those quebecois lies, in relation to the Crown?

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  25. Is hillbillies a French word? If you want to write in French please do so without anglicisms

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    1. Péquenaud sounds good.

      Or perhaps a more regionally-appropriate PQnaud...?

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  26. Est-ce que cigarette est un mot anglais?

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  27. English is a living language, that's why it's successful. It's able to accommodate other languages and be inclusive.
    French, not so much...

    Restricting the growth of your language will be the end of it.

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  28. C'est pourquoi je me permet d'utiliser hillbillies (je trouve que ça sonne mieux que cul-terreux).

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    1. Why not go all the way and use only English words?

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  29. What everyone seems to have missed the point on about the stm is the hatred and the ridicule that this man faced. When I run into a waiter or store clerk who cannot speak english but isn‘t rude about it, I will switch to french for them. After all it really is their loss. But these racist stm fucks, “we don‘t serve english people“ just keep on speaking english to them.

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    1. When Quebec seeks the dollars of English speaking tourists, it publishes ads in newspapers, such as the New York Times, seeking tourists. In the interest of fairness, it should disclose in the ads that, among ther things, stm employees will refuse to speak English and insult you because you speak English.

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    2. We really need to have the racist, intolerant Quebec society exposed on "60 Minutes" or another American television news show again. It would help keep Americans from wasting their tourism or investment dollars here.

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    3. Nous savons faire la différence entre un anglo local et un brave touriste sympathique.

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    4. We know how to distinguish between a separatist bigot and a normal francophone.

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  30. Effectivement Anon,l'anglo local ne fait aucun effort d'adaptation et la plupart des touristes font des efforts pour s'adresser à nous dans la langue Nationale.Je travaille dans un commerce de Montréal et j'ai de l'expérience.Les plus baveux sont les "ontarians".

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    3. @Isidore, you are likely the same person as OQLF as it would be difficult to find two different persons who would post such arrant nonsense and bigoted remarks . So, in your humble opinion, Americans are noisy, Maritimers are discrete and Ontarians are turbulent and violent.Violent? What happened? Did the kids knock over your beer?

      FYI, Ontarians are not a race. How many of the 13.3 million Ontarians have you met that has led you to conclude that they are "cretins"?

      Are you Pauline Marois?

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  31. Mon commentaire s'adressait à S.R

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  32. I don't give a hoot if francophones -- majority or otherwise -- want the coach of the Canadiens to be French-speaking.

    And I don't give a hoot if francophones -- majority or otherwise -- want "respect" from anglophones.

    What I do give a hoot about is when such sentiments are codified into law which, of course, is what Bill 101 is all about.

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  33. @ OQLF,

    You're a liar. You are the same guy as S.R. I see that you are still responding to your own comments.

    It's also highly unlikely that you are working anywhere, judging from the frequency and times of your posts on this blog, under a variety of different names. It's obvious that you spend most of your time surfing the internet.

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  36. Hes obviously holding some kind of unionized government job. You know their hiring standards are definitely not based on merit.

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  37. It's good that the Editor is changing the rules. One name and password per amail will keep the trolls in place. They are a pain in the ass and keep sensible posters from the site. Ed brown

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  38. God forbid the coach of Canadians should be English only, he might win the cup like Al McNeil
    or for that matter who ever heard Toe Blake talk French. edbrown@bell.net

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  39. I don't care if he talk only english,russian or french!The only important thing is the team; It exist and lets be happy with it.But I don't really care about hockey;I believe that most hockey players are stupid people who cannot do a serious job.

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