Wednesday, December 7, 2011

What Makes Pauline Marois Tick?

Over these last years of blogging, I've refrained from writing much about Pauline Marois largely because I didn't believe I could bring much insight. Aside from crossing her in the hall a couple of times, she, like other peekists remain largely a mystery to me.

But events surrounding her these last months have been nothing short of extraordinary and even as an uniformed observer I'd like to make some general observations.
At least it will allow readers a platform to sound off in the comments section.

First things first.
If you are a federalist like myself, you cannot help but hope Madame Marois hangs on as long as she can. The destructive forces surrounding her leadership serve to discredit the entire sovereignty movement and realistically, as long as she is leader, the PQ isn't going to win any elections.

The utter lack of faith in her within her own caucus and the very public displays of disrespect, is an unheralded situation that leaves the electorate convinced that the party is unfit to govern, sovereignty or federalism aside.
Could you imagine how you'd feel if the door to the cockpit of a plane you've just boarded was left open and you heard the pilot and co-pilot screaming at each other before takeoff? LEMME OFF!!

Readers, I'd like you to consider the situation in the Quebec Liberal party, where scandal after scandal has ripped through the party, yet Premier Charest endures, untouched by insurrection among the party faithful.
Solidarity is just about the only thing the Liberals have left and perhaps the PQ could take a lesson, but as I said, as a federalist, I hope not!
Every political party in Canada understands that without solidarity and loyalty towards the leader, a party cannot expect to win the confidence of the people. Everybody except the Peekists, that is and so it is no surprise they are paying the price in the opinion polls.

One thing I've discovered about Pauline of late is that she's made of sterner stuff than her predecessors, the PQ leaders before her, who abandoned the job rather abruptly, either pushed or in a fit of pique.

The PQ caucus has always been a hotbed of discontent, with every member seeming to have leadership aspirations which they hope to enhance by backstabbing the leader.

And so, it's been a PQ tradition to dump their leaders rather unceremoniously and without much respect.
The fact that Levesque, Parizeau, Boisclair, Bouchard and Landry went so quietly and without a fuss belied the fact that the PQ is a political party steeped in the tradition of patricide and perhaps soon to be, matricide.

But Marois' fall from grace has little to do with her leadership skills as is claimed by the backstabbers. She is, simply put, the fall girl for the political fortunes of sovereignty, which seems to have fallen out of favour with Quebecers, who cringe at the thought of another losing referendum.

Like a cellar dwelling hockey team, it's the coach who gets the blame and subsequently the axe for poor performance.
For the PQ, blaming Pauline is just about the only choice they can make, the other option is to admit that the party platform which is based on sovereignty just doesn't resonate with Quebecers any more. That scenario is unthinkable and so Pauline must be the problem.

But Marois isn't going quietly, something PQ veterans seem to be astounded at.

By sticking around in the face of so much adversity and hostility Madame Marois displays an utter 'sang froid,' and stubbornness that I never knew she had. Her capacity to soldier on in the face of so much back-stabbing, is simply amazing.

Madame et Messier PaulineMarois
Madame Marois has always been an expert political 'operator' cut from the same cloth as Jean Charest. She has survived her own scandals with barely a scratch.
Her detestable husband, Claude Blanchet, is wealthy in his own right. While Marois was a cabinet minister in the PQ government of Jacques Parizeau, her husband was appointed, as director of a new Quebec government investment agency, the Société générale de financement du Québec but was eventually forced out over charges of gross incompetence. During his five year tenure at the helm of the agency, it lost over $800 million, during which time, he and senior management paid themselves generous bonuses, year after losing year!' When he was finally ousted, he negotiated himself an $80,000 pension for life, as well as hundreds of thousands of dollars in severance!
I've been told off the record, by businessmen who know him professionally, that he's the type of guy that you count your fingers after shaking hands with him.

The power couple live in a controversial eight million mansion on Île Bizard, which was the subject of considerable controversy at one point. It was alleged in the Montreal Gazette that the couple paid off someone in order to legitimize a zoning change for the property. Read: How estate was built on public, farm lands.
See breathtaking pictures of the chateau Here
The couple sued the Gazette for $2 million over the article, but when the controversy petered out as expected, they settled out of court with the newspaper. The Gazette in the strangest of settlements, admitted that the story could have caused the couple harm, but was in fact true...Huh?  Link{Fr}

So  Madame Marois is not any stranger to being attacked over personal ethics and like Premier Charest is an expert at the political game of shuck and jive.

Like the Energizer bunny, Madame Marois just keeps going and going, but at this point it's fair to ask, why she is trying so hard to maintain her position, which by all counts appears untenable.

What on earth is a girl to do?

While I hope she stays, the Christmas recess might give Pauline the quiet time necessary to decide that it might be time to give up the ghost.

The loss of the by-election on Monday, in Bonaventure, while expected(it's a Liberal stronghold,) is still frustrating for Peekists. Watching the hated Premier Charest hold a riding while being so unpopular must be galling and even though PQ support actually rose, it remains little consolation to hardliners in the caucus, a third of whom need another term in the National assembly to become eligible for a pension.
Now with polls indicating that the PQ can do better with Gilles Duceppe at the helm, perhaps even winning, the pressure on Marois to leave is enormous.

If she does leave, I hope she blows up the party as a parting gift.
How?
She could either give a speech wherein she buries the sovereignty option or worse still stay on long enough to put a referendum back on the front burner.

If she publicly commits to a referendum within six months of taking power, come Hell or high water, it would satisfy the militants, but destroy any chance of electoral success at the polls.

As Christmas approaches, I can't think of a better present for federalists.
Ah....to dream!

145 comments:

  1. Federalists? What federalists?

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  2. Mr. Sauga, after verifying he posted first (yay!)Wednesday, December 7, 2011 at 12:30:00 AM EST

    There are no federalists left inh the National Assembly. There all corrupt, and the "Anglophone" MNAs are Quislings that may as well have been Jews working for the Nazi SS rounding up and gassing their own.

    Richard French, Clifford Lincoln and Herbert Marx were the last "Anglophone" MNAs with integrity and gonads. They would have chosen the gas chambers over gassing their own. They resigned from the Assembly 23 years ago this month.

    To quote Charlton Heston's last words in his role of astronaut George Taylor in Planet of the Apes: "Damn yourselves to hell!"

    And now, ladies and gentlemen, it is past my bedtime. Very succinct of me this time around. Good night!

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  3. See how tired I am? That 2nd sentance in the second paragraph should read "THEY'RE all corrupt". Good night again!!!

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  4. Question, what do you think of Legault's upcomming new party? It seems absent from the PLQ/PQ comparison up there. I'd bring up the ADQ but they're pretty dead.

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  5. Quebec politiciasns. Just as jaded as the contruction indusry...Wait a minute and think. They are equivalent, in their corruption and deceit.

    Maybe the constuction coalition can build JJC a mansion on Isle De Bizard, Adjoining Madame Marois.

    How stupid are the Quebecois??

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  6. "How stupid are the Quebecois??"

    Very.

    They think they are a country.

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  7. The Separatists are in the midst of seeing their dream of an independent country floating away beyond reach (hence the renewed focus on cracking down on English,  its like clockwork).  The PQ has no one to blame except themselves. Their idea, born in the 60's, was meant to address the problems faced by francophones IN THE 60's. Through negotiation and dialogue, I would say most if not all of their initial grievances have been addressed within the framework of a united Canada. The time has come to put this movement to bed and to roll up our sleeves and row in the same direction. Canada has been largely sheltered from the collapse of the Worlds economies but it is clear, the ground rules have shifted. We are dealing with heavy weights like China and their slave labour wages. The rich North American lifestyle will in all likely hood not be an option for the next generations.

    I'd like to recommend this article by Conrad Black, who despite what you think of him is an excellent Quebec historian. http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/11/26/conrad-black-how-the-roc-bought-off-quebec/

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  8. Mr. Marco,

    Spot on! If I get a dollar each time I read "notre pays" in reference to Quebec, I can buy myself a new Corolla.

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  9. "They think they are a country"

    Le reste du monde le croit aussi,seul les anglo-canayen ne le savent pas.

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  10. Umm actually no, the rest of the World does not think Quebec is a country, what they are doing is scratching their head wondering whats wrong with the people in Quebec? Canada, consistently ranks in the top 3 Best Countries to live and raise a family in.

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  11. "Le reste du monde le croit aussi,seul les anglo-canayen ne le savent pas"

    Ouvre votre passporte et lire ce qu'il dit.

    Il n'y pas une pays appele Quebec.

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  12. Un pays,2 drapeaux,deux langues,2 mentalités et 2 façons fort différentes de traiter avec les autochtones...Bravo Mister Harper!

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  13. "Le reste du monde le croit aussi,"

    When the level of delusion reaches this level, it is time to move on to the next topic.

    (and as someone from another country, I can assure you that a vast majority of people outside of Canada couldn't place Quebec on the map)

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  14. "Le reste du monde le croit aussi,seul les anglo-canayen ne le savent pas. "

    It seems that you don't travel much, or you don't have a clue what is happening in the real world... LMAO.

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  15. "Un pays,2 drapeaux,deux langues,2 mentalités et 2 façons fort différentes de traiter avec les autochtones...Bravo Mister Harper! "

    In fact it's 1 country, 13 flags, 2 languages (official), hundreds of thousands of mentalities ... Bravo Canada, that's the country we love.

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  16. "and as someone from another country, I can assure you that a vast majority of people outside of Canada couldn't place Quebec on the map"

    Imaginez maintenant la même question avec la pologne...

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  17. La reste du monde LOLOLOLOLOLOL

    I love it. Oddly enough, I live in the "reste du monde" and nobody seems to recognize Quebec as a country. I always just assumed that they don't recognize Quebec as a country because, well, it isn't. But maybe our friend can enlighten us as to who exactly this "reste du monde" is? Was it that Cuban bartender he sees every 6 months who'll say anything for a dollar?

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  18. Demandez à un New-yorkais de situer le Texas sur une carte géographique ou encore pire Winnipeg.

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  19. "Demandez à un New-yorkais de situer le Texas sur une carte géographique ou encore pire Winnipeg. "

    The purpose is not to evaluate the geographical knowledge of americans or aanadians etc.
    What is for you to understand once and for all: Quebec was not a country, will never be, and for the rest of the world , Quebec doesn't exist or if it exists , it is IN Canada.
    Wake up already, daydreaming days are over....

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  20. The dude talking about Texas, Winnipeg, and Poland is totally missing my point. Many Americans can't place many obvious landmarks on the map. The point is that people with an average grasp of geography are likely to know about Texas, Winnipeg or Poland, but not necessarily about something called Quebec.

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  21. Anonymous @ December 7, 2011 9:49 AM

    Imaginez maintenant la même question avec la pologne...

    My dear friend, as a well-travelled person, I can assure you that more people than you can imagine can place Poland on a world map than Quebec. I agree with the other posts - you have no idea what you are talking about. I'll blame not your ignorance, but on your not lack of travelling the world. And no, going to Cuba does not count.

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  22. Now, here's a Franco with his head in the right place.

    Radio Canada: "1 in 3 calls to Urgence Sante from Montreal or Laval are in English"

    Jean Aimarre: "This contradicts the argument that only 5% of Montrealers are English speaking"


    http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/Montreal/2011/12/06/006-enquete-urgence-sante-anglais-informatique.shtml

    Envoyé par Jean Aimarre de Montréal
    7 décembre 2011 à 09 h 56 HNE

    "...une fois sur trois, les gens qui font des appels d'urgence à Montréal et à Laval le font en anglais."

    Ce petit bout de phrase contredit l'argument concernant le 5% d'anglais dans la région de Montréal.

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  23. "I can assure you that more people than you can imagine can place Poland on a world map than Quebec"

    Besoin de lunettes?Notre pays est 30 X plus gros que la pologne et comporte 100 fois moins d'acooliques MDR!

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  24. "Besoin de lunettes?Notre pays est 30 X plus gros que la pologne et comporte 100 fois moins d'acooliques MDR!"

    Oui, ta raison. C'est plus facile a trouver Canada sur un carte que la pologne.

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  25. "Besoin de lunettes?Notre pays est 30 X plus gros que la pologne et comporte 100 fois moins d'acooliques MDR! "

    Dude you epically fail to understand that Quebec is not a country, as for Poland ... let's see some fact as per Wiki:

    Formation
    - Christianisation[c] April 14, 966
    - First Republic July 1, 1569
    - Second Republic November 11, 1918
    - People's Republic December 31, 1944
    - Third Republic of Poland January 30, 1990

    As for Quebec ? I really don't see your point.
    Trust me, nobody in this whole world believes that Quebec is a country.
    As a matter of fact, please provide us some proof.
    If you cannot, you just proved that you are nothing but a troller, and your comments are as valuable as a hose pie.

    Thank you !

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  26. “What Makes Pauline Marois Tick?” Who really cares? She is just another bigot, another language Nazis in a long list of anti-English language bigots who have been wiping out the real English speaking history of Kebec for decades now. They are all the same no matter what party they are in Kebec. They all support the racist bigoted language laws of Kebec, a la bills 22, 178, 101…

    These racist bigoted french-metis people are intolerant, hateful and proud of it. It is the norm with these people inside and outside kebec. They are the most despised people in Canada, not just Kebec as they force their language on the entire country, like it or not.

    Do us all a favour and leave and when you do take all the other language Nazis in the other provinces with you please. The sooner the better…

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    1. You are correct in everything, except one.

      They are not Metis. They hate Metis as much as the British, because Metis are pro-Canada AND pro-USA simultaneously, and hence stupidly, heinously and insidiously regarded as traitors, when ultimately they are the ones who have the right idea. Look it up. It's quite rather interesting.

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  27. "They all support the racist bigoted language laws of Kebec, a la bills 22, 178, 101…"

    Votre liste n'est pas à jour,vous avez oublié notre petite dernière:La Loi 104

    Ajoutez-la à votre liste svp ;)

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  28. LOL, Anonymous 10:49AM you crack me up. Made me laugh, for real. Alcoholics, yes, totally. I lived there so I know.

    Yes, size-wise Quebec is large, but when you superimpose the actual population on its area, you only have a blotch in the Montreal area, a small blotch in the Quebec region, and very faint dots everywhere else. Poland has the population of almost 40 million, so larger than Canada as a whole.

    But we digress. The point is that if I approach an average person on the street say in Poland (since I can relate from experience here) and say Winnipeg, they'll say a city in central Canada. If I say Texas, they'll say a US state in the midwest of the United States. If I say Kilimanjaro, they'll say the highest peak in Africa, if I say Mount Everest, they'll say the highest peak in Asia, if I say Melbourne, they'll say Australia, etc...But when I say Quebec, they say eeeehh?

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  29. These racist bigoted anglo canadian people are intolerant, hateful and proud of it.

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  30. "Everest, they'll say the highest peak in Asia, if I say Melbourne, they'll say Australia, etc...But when I say Quebec, they say eeeehh?"

    Demandez-leurs : Société des alcools du Québec

    Vous êtes donc le seul polonais à nous avoir trouvé!Misère....

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  31. "Poland has the population of almost 40 million"

    Ce n'est pas la quantité qui compte...C'est la qualité!:D

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  32. "Ce n'est pas la quantité qui compte...C'est la qualité!:D "

    That's why Quebec is willing to accept as immigrants, more than 30% , only haitians, and north africans?

    May be one day Quebec will be french only...
    I guess that as you said, quality counts !

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  33. "That's why Quebec is willing to accept as immigrants, more than 30% , only haitians, and north africans?"

    These racist bigoted anglo canadian people are intolerant, hateful and proud of it.

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  34. "Poland has the population of almost 40 million"

    Ce n'est pas la quantité qui compte...C'est la qualité!:D

    Don't know why you posted that. Guy-Paul in St.Basil-le grand isn't exactly the creme de la creme...if you know what I mean.

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  35. @ Anonymous said...

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    "They think they are a country"

    Le reste du monde le croit aussi,seul les anglo-canayen ne le savent pas.
    December 7, 2011 8:48 AM

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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    HHHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!!

    Dude, I understand that you take your summer vacations in "Saguenay lac saint jean" so you can get away from all the people laughing at you in the big city, however...

    I have a suggestion for you...


    Try Buying a plane ticket to anywhere else in the world. Anywhere out side your "Country" of Quebec (LOL), and try having a conversation with those people there. You will notice quite quickly that they will be laugh at you too...

    Can you connect the dots?

    Now here's a little exercise to get you started… Judging by the comments you regularly post here I assume that the degree of difficulty of the following exercise should be at your competence level... try connecting these dots!

    Bonne Chance!
    http://www.honkingdonkey.com/activity-pages/dot-to-dot/dot-to-dot-pics/connect-dots-01-111.gif

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  36. Wrt. Bernard Landry: correct me if I'm wrong but was it not his ego at not getting greater then 76% support that made him leave?

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  37. I disagree with adski. I think if an average person not from North or Central America is asked about Ontario, Manitoba or Saskatchewan he will not have any idea about, not to mention putting them on the map. Same thing will happen with Quebec. Why? Because they are merely PROVINCES of Canada.

    However, if the same person is asked about Canada, I am pretty sure he will quick to respond and be able to draw the maple leaf flag as well.

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  38. Robert McCrum, William Cran, & Robert MacNeil. The Story of English. New York: Penguin, 1992: 1

    "The statistics of English are astonishing. Of all the world's languages (which now number some 2,700), it is arguably the richest in vocabulary. The compendious Oxford English Dictionary lists about 500,000 words; and a further half-million technical and scientific terms remain uncatalogued. According to traditional estimates, neighboring German has a vocabulary of about 185,000 and French fewer than 100,000, including such Franglais as le snacque-barre and le hit-parade."

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  39. Which language has the most words?
    I heard an interesting factoid at lunch yesterday. There are apparently one million words in the English language which supposedly puts it far ahead of any other language. This came as a surprise to me, while I've grown to enjoy English for its precision, this would mean it contains over ten times the amount of words of the french language (80k). It is no surprise to me however that French is stagnating, simply because the language is regulated by committee, and we all know how efficient those are. And so when we need a new word say to convey the meaning of "email", a group of people in France have to get together and pick one (courriel). Hardly a natural and vibrant process. But does the English language truly have a million words? Wolfram alpha will quickly tell you that the Oxford dictionary has 600k words, putting it ahead of say Spanish with a mere 225k. English is growing very quickly because it incorporates other languages readily, perhaps because most English speakers are not native. In fact China has the largest population of anglophones in the world

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  40. "Dictionary lists about 500,000 words; and a further half-million technical and scientific terms remain uncatalogued. According to traditional estimates, neighboring German has a vocabulary of about 185,000 and French fewer than 100,000"

    Globish : 15 000

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  41. http://www.languagemonitor.com/no-of-words/

    I would like to see how someone can justify French is better or "richer" than English despite having 10 times less words.

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  42. "I would like to see how someone can justify French is better or "richer" than English despite having 10 times less words..."

    Le tout réside dans la qualité des mots et des expressions et non dans la quantité.Nous sommes suivis de près par les Italiens.

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  43. La langue anglaise est à l'image des anglos:Elle bouffe tout sur son passage,même les poubelles.
    Aussi,les anglos sont les plus grands mangeurs de "donuts" et de "ice cream" au MONDE.

    Les anglos seraient-ils en train de créer une langue obèse?

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  44. What a typical conversation. A seppie makes a preposterous claim. People give him a reality check. He changes the subject (brings up those Americans who can't locate their ass, never mind Quebec). When the subject is brought back on track (people who know geography are still unfamiliar with Quebec), he pulls out the big guns: racists, francophobes, Quebec-bashers.

    Never gets old.

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  45. Jeez, this has become a pissing contest over which language has more words... Really? The issue is actually a socio-economic one here, where a minority in a certain area is being bullied by the majority. Who cares which language has more words? What are the criteria to assess the 'superiority' of a language? Is Farsi superior to English? Is French superior to Somali? Who is to judge? I do not expect the Anonymous from 2:36 PM to understand this though. For some reason he doesn't sound like someone you can have a rational discussion with. So, guys and gals, really... who cared which language has more words, or how many names wine can have?

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  46. "Le tout réside dans la qualité des mots et des expressions et non dans la quantité.Nous sommes suivis de près par les Italiens"

    Peut-etre, mais pour le "francais" seulment. Pour le "quebecois" (est les quebecois) vous etes suivi de pres par les albanais et les mongols.

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  47. "les albanais"(sic)

    C'est Albanien ou Abanienne.

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  48. What really pisses me of is why is this representative of the province (er country, you whiners)of Quebec living so lavishly? That alone smacks of elitism and even communism. If I lived in that country, hell PROVINCE, I would be steaming mad that my tax money went to support her and her shady hubby's opulence. Oh wait, that's not THEIR money supporting her, it's that other country's money, CANADA!!

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  49. I find it very touch to respond to the Separatist "Anonymous" guy all the time and not have a name or reference to address him by...

    I know he has been asked several times to sign a name, but he always seems to refuse. It makes it difficult and a little annoying to always refer to him as "Anonymous 3:41pm" or "Anonymous 8:48am".


    Since this guy refuses to take on an alias, can we just refer to him as "Ti Jean-Guy du BS" ???

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  50. "Since this guy refuses to take on an alias, can we just refer to him as "Ti Jean-Guy du BS""

    Je veux qu'on me surnomme :Jason le fripon

    Voilà...C'est règlé!

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  51. "I find it very touch to respond to the Separatist "Anonymous" guy all the time and not have a name or reference to address him by..."

    He's the same idiot who previously referred to himself as Press 9, Stephen Harpon, Anglobuster, Dartagnan, and other aliases. I don't know why he is afraid to identify himself now.

    "Aussi,les anglos sont les plus grands mangeurs de "donuts" et de "ice cream" au MONDE."

    It is the Quebecois who are by far the biggest consumers of sugary foods: Jos Louis and May West cakes, sugar pie, sugar sludge, maple syrup, donuts and of course: Pepsi! They have the rotten teeth to prove it.

    The Forum in Montreal and the Coliseum in Quebec City are named the Pepsi Forum and the Pepsi Coliseum for a good reason.

    The Quebecois also love greasy, fat-ridden crap like poutine, cretons and baked beans with pork.

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  52. All of the above plus they are inbreeds !
    thank you very much.

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  53. "les anglos sont les plus grands mangeurs de "donuts" et de "ice cream" au MONDE"

    Hoho!Je crois bien avoir touché une corde sensible.Existe-t-il un bon resto anglo à Montréal?

    Ne me dites pas Red Lobster,il n'existe plus.

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  54. Existe-t-il un bon resto quebecois....au monde?????

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  55. Bem oui Marco... "La Belle Province"!!!!!!


    LOL

    The symbol of a nation...

    http://www.topmenu.com/media/BELLE-PROVINCE-GRANBY-LOGO.gif

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  56. Je ne serais pas surpris d'apprendre que la moitié de leur clientèle est anglo.
    Soyez honnête et dites-moi que vous n'avez jamais mit les pieds à la Belle Province ou manger une délicieuse poutine.

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  57. Hey "Ti Jeam-Guy du BS", of course I've been in a Bell Pro's...

    Funny thing is I haven't walked into one that was actually owned by a Quebecer... lol

    Even businesses catered and focused on the pure-laine are owned and operated by immigrants...

    Hey "Ti Jean-Guy du BS", besides drinking Labatt50 and collecting your BS check, you want to let us all in on what else you're good for?

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  58. Not Labatt50. He probably drinks Laurentide and cat piss.

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  59. Vous êtes méhants...Je vous quitte!.
    SLAM! (Bruit de claquage de porte)

    Si tu veux être plus plausible :

    Ti-Guy sur le BS ou Jean-Guy sur le BS.Pas les 2 à la fois.

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  60. If only it was that easy to get rid of separatists....

    Don't tease me Ti-Guy

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  61. "Don't tease me Ti-Guy"

    Héhé!Excellent!

    À demain...

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  62. Adski, let's talk about the Poles!

    Check this out, something that you and NM can be VERY PROUD of.

    Here's a quote:

    "More than 54,000 European Union citizens have been convicted of crimes — including murder — in the past two years The Daily Telegraph can disclose.

    Poles and Romanians are the worst offenders according to the figures, adding to concerns over the impact of the two most recent EU expansions. "

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8439117/EU-migrants-commit-500-crimes-a-week-in-UK.html

    Also, read this about Polish brutalities (worse than hooliganism has ever been in the U.K.):

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_hooliganism_in_Poland

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  63. Anonymous 6:20

    Voilà une des raisons pour lesquelles j'ai beaucoup de difficulté à accepter les critiques sociales de ces immigrants.Ils sont loin d'être des modèles en matière de civisme.

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  64. Have you ever thought that maybe the poles coming to Canada are leaving their country BECAUSE of bad elements, including the ones roaming EU? Which would make the ones being accepted to immigrate a norma, responsible citizen?

    You have no idea the screening and medical tests an immigrant has to go through. Even an elevated blood pressure is a reason to not be accepted to become a resident in Ca. And by the way, QC has autonomy over the immigration process, so it's choosing its own immigrants.

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  65. @Anonymous 6:42

    Je m'attend seulement à ce qu'ils démontrent un peu de gratitude au lieu de nous traiter de nazis à chaque fois qu'ils doivent cracher quelques mots dans la langue officielle du Québec.

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  66. @ anon. at 6:51 PM,

    You've got a nerve lecturing anyone on gratitude. The Quebecois show no gratitude at all for the constant influx of cash they receive from hard working Canadians in other provinces.

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  67. "...hard working Canadians in other provinces"

    Pouvez-vous nous nommer ces fameuses provinces ainsi que leur taux de chômage?

    "The Quebecois show no gratitude..."

    Je ne me souviens pas d'avoir fait une demande au bureau d'immigration.

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  68. "Pouvez-vous nous nommer ces fameuses provinces..."

    Alberta, Saskatchewan, British Columbia, Newfoundland and Labrador. Ontario up until 2009.

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  69. "Check this out, something that you and NM can be VERY PROUD of."

    And guess what, because of that I took my family and moved on. For sure I paid a lot to come here, I had the guts to abandon everything there and to start a new life here.
    Lot's of medical tests, lot's of taxes, but it was worth it.
    In less than a year I managed to realize more that most of pur laine quebecois wouldn't in 5 or even 10...so spare me.

    I will not deny the fact that my co-nationals are bad, but not all of them. As if in Quebec there is no crime...
    Let's not say that all are bad, as we cannot say that all quebeckers are seppies.

    As I took my family out of a country that was not providing me safety, maybe you should leave Quebec and go where your bullshit is tolerated.

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  70. Wow, that idiot anonymous is now taking snipe at immigrant?

    Tell you what, you coc#suc#er, I may came to this province much later than you or your family. I may not speak fluent French. I do not care enough about Quebec history and tradition. But what do you know? I live my life comfortably. I am making more than you can possibly dream you can.

    What is your excuse?

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  71. "I am making more than you can possibly dream you can."

    Votre langage de fond de court me laisse croire que vous êtes un prolétaire à 15$/h.

    Livreur de pizzas?Chauffeur de taxi peut-être?

    Pauvre petit minable qui ramène toute conversation à son pécule de crève la fin!

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  72. http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20111207/mtl_pq_111207/20111207/?hub=MontrealHome


    check this out ...

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  73. I call. I am an IT Project Manager with a nation-wide financial services company. I have an iron ring on my right pinkie and an advance degree in commerce.

    Your turn. Call or fold?

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  74. "Traditionally young people have been among the sovereignty movement's strongest supporters."

    Enfin on ose le dire dans les médias.Oui au droit de vote dès l'âge de 16 ans et non au vote de immigrés de moins de 3 ans de résidence en sol Québécois.

    Vive le Québec libre!

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  75. " ...moins de 3 ans de résidence en sol Québécois."

    you have to be canadian citizen to vote. citizenship comes after 4 years ... welcome to real world.
    and the "sol" is still canadian..

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  76. "Your turn. Call or fold?"

    Wow!Je suis vraiment impressionné.Croyez-vous réellement que je vais commencer à jouer à celui qui pisse le plus loin sur un blogue avec un importé complexé et anonyme de surcroît.

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  77. "you have to be canadian citizen to vote. citizenship comes after 4 years"

    Pas lors d'un référendum au Québec.

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  78. "Wow!Je suis vraiment impressionné.Croyez-vous réellement que je vais commencer à jouer à celui qui pisse le plus loin sur un blogue avec un importé complexé et anonyme de surcroît."

    Of course you will not. You have nothing to match anyway. Vivre Quebec libre? You can suck it.

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  79. "Pas lors d'un référendum au Québec. "

    as Troy said, you can suck it. hard and wet. you are a canadian and you will respect canadian laws. mmmmwaaaaaaahahahahah. drop dead.

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  80. Anonymous @ 6:42PM

    "Je m'attend seulement à ce qu'ils démontrent un peu de gratitude au lieu de nous traiter de nazis à chaque fois qu'ils doivent cracher quelques mots dans la langue officielle du Québec."

    Honey-bunny, gratitude? Gratitude for what? Imperatif Francais? In case you don't know, in order to be accepted in Qc, you have to pass a looong interview in French, so 99% of the immigrants can speak French very well. How about the Quebecers show gratitude for the !%^$load of money pumped into the economy? If I recall correctly, each family of immigrants HAS to come to Qc with $10,000/person. Which means that a couple pumps $20,000 in the Quebec economy. Yes, this sum is supposed to cover medicare or other problems. Keeping in mind the selection based on health only, you'll realize that these immigrants won't need any costly treatment for a looong time. Pair that with the fact that most of the immigrants are fully-trained, with post-secondary education or grad studies, they will probably will not stay unemployed for long, so really... all that money goes straight into the QC economy. Yeah... so for that, you're very welcome.

    "Enfin on ose le dire dans les médias.Oui au droit de vote dès l'âge de 16 ans et non au vote de immigrés de moins de 3 ans de résidence en sol Québécois."

    You cannot vote, as an immigrant until you get the citizenship, which is after at least 4 years, even more now, I think.

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  81. "You have nothing to match anyway"

    Une chose est certaine : Mon estime de soi ne se mesure pas en $.

    Et apprenez donc à écrire correctement:

    Vive le Québec libre!

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  82. "you are a canadian and you will respect canadian laws"

    Vous ne connaissez pas les Québécois.Non?

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  83. "Vous ne connaissez pas les Québécois.Non?"

    Comme le FLQ de Quebec. Je pense que tout le monde connez bien les Quebecois. N'est pas.

    Quebec has done nothing but create problems for the ROC. Not much positive coming out of Quebec.

    The death spiral continues.

    C'est le vie.

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  84. "Long live James Wolfe!"

    4:43 am : Vous auriez dû être au lit et récupérer un peu d'énergie,vous en aviez besoin.

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  85. "Vous ne connaissez pas les Québécois.Non?"

    But I do. It took me a couple of months to know you. Lazy, whiners, nothing is satisfying you ...
    And above all, i know les quebecois...40+ years of having Quebec at their feet, but no guts to separate. MDR as you say.
    Looks like you like money after all and your self esteem is well bought by Canada. You hypocrite.

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  86. Not sure what football hooliganism or crime in London have to do with the topics discussed here. To stay on topic, you could have asked me what I think about all the foreigners who come to Warsaw to work for the multinationals, and work and live there in English and not in Polish. Or about the immigrants from Asia who settle there and do not assimilate (maybe because they're too busy working and feeding their families). And if you ask me what I think about those people, I'll give you the answer.

    I also have to say, nice try with the "respect your host" trick. I work, pay taxes , and live off the money I make, and you're not my host. As for the "minority should conform to the majority" notion, it's a nice trick too to immunize the majority from any criticism. Editor debunked this notion very well in one of his recent posts.

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  87. "I work, pay taxes , and live off the money I make..."

    Les Québécois paient aussi des taxes et des impôts et celles-ci vont en partie pour financer la francisation des immigrants afin qu'ils s'intègrent plus facilement à notre collectivité.

    La dernière chose dont le Québec a besoin est la prolifération de libertariens de votre espèce qui ne pensent qu'à leur nombril.Vous avez tous les droits de critiquer adski mais avant de la faire,demandez-vous si ce n'est pas vous le problème.

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  88. I love how the "my language has more words!!" argument comes back every week or so..

    Anyways, Pauline Marois, just like Parizeau, Bouchard, Landry and Boisclair before her, is just an opportunist. She couldn't care less about the little people of this province (how could she, she lives in her corruption-castle, isolated and completely detached from normal society), what's important for her are her own interests, and those of her friends.

    The separatist movement (which is pointless since the 80s) is just a good excuse to exploit Les Québécois who don't know any better (a fairly decent percentage of the population, since education is not encouraged in this province).

    Here's a question: does anyone remember Pauline Marois' time as minister of education, or health? I do, and she's the reason why both those systems are in the state they're in today.

    These people are opportunists; they have no real beliefs, and they will do whatever is convenient for them.
    Parizeau's visit to the Montreal Jewish General is the best example, but today we get a new example:

    http://www.cyberpresse.ca/actualites/quebec-canada/national/201112/08/01-4475753-statut-special-pour-langlais-chez-bombardier-aeronautique.php?utm_categorieinterne=trafficdrivers&utm_contenuinterne=cyberpresse_B4_manchettes_231_accueil_POS3

    Yes, believe it or not, the OQLF has allowed Bombardier (a company from this province) to operate in english since the 80s. How many employees does Bombardier have? But yeah, "Kif-Kif Import", that was a serious problem.

    So once again, the rules don't apply when it's convenient for them. Examples like this make it quite clear that these laws, that are supposed to "protect our language and culture", are mainly based on racism and intolerance towards non "Québécois de souche".


    "Oui au droit de vote dès l'âge de 16 ans et non au vote de immigrés de moins de 3 ans de résidence en sol Québécois."

    A good example of the acceptance of racist propaganda in this province. In 1995, Parizeau got on TV with his glass of Gin and told all the Québécois that their "country" has been stolen from them by immigrants and rich people.
    That made it official for the separatists, of course, and we can still see the results today.
    No separatist will ever accept that they lost TWO referendums.. They were robbed!, and there's always someone else to blame.

    It also shows how the separatists and language nazis are willing to completely discard democracy (we'll decide who votes!) and all its rules for their cause. "Screw letting people decide, I want Jacques Parizeau and Lucien Bouchard to decide for us!"

    I have asked a few separatists what they think the province would be like today if we were our own country and Lucien was in charge.. I'm especially curious about how the shale gas moratorium would be going.. Morons..

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  89. "La dernière chose dont le Québec a besoin est la prolifération de libertariens de votre espèce qui ne pensent qu'à leur nombril.Vous avez tous les droits de critiquer adski mais avant de la faire,demandez-vous si ce n'est pas vous le problème."

    Comme tous les membres du PQ depuis les années 80?

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  90. Long live James Wolfe! I love it, my hero.

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  91. "Kif-Kif Import"

    Que représente le flux de communications "international" de monsieur Kif-kif?

    Vous êtes un étrange analyste M.Quebecker of Tree Stump

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  92. That SEPARATIST Pierre Boudreau is such a Loser. The only thing GREEN is his brain. I think that it has turned to mush. One would have to wonder how he became one of the elected officials of the Moncton City Council. I like my version from an ACADIAN Genealogist much better.

    Acadian facts…..

    In 1713, he chief census-taker Charlebois, stated” Today! In Acadia, there isn’t a single Indian that does not carry French (European) blood, nor is there one single French (European) that does not carry Indian blood!”

    In 1713, the treaty of Utrecht between the British and the French passed all control of the people living there (Acadians) to come under the British laws, in exchange for a few small Islands and some trading right, after which, between 1713 and 1755 NOT ONE SINGLE new European (French) person settled in Acadian, so, if everyone was half Indian in 1713, they were all half Indian in 1755, and since the British did not invade Acadia till 1755, there was a period of mixed breeds running Acadia with no ties whatsoever with France, and during the deportation, FRANCE did not accept one single deportees to their country, those who were sent there, ended up being sent to Louisiana (A Spanish territory) by the French.

    The deportation was not over Acadian land (The British did not start to settle in Acadia until the mid and late 1760’s) rather it was to eliminate the Indian resistance since all the people in Acadia were half -breeds and there was no way to tell who lived as an Indian or who lived as a white, except to send raiding parties up the St. John River to kill everyone they could find there since it was the base from which all the resistance leaders lived, and then to make sure all these leaders were eliminated by rounding everyone up and deporting them.

    The deportation was not over land ! It was over native resistance because from 1678 to 1752, the British could not settle north of the Penobscot River because the leaders of Madockawando son-in-law Jean D’abbadis De St. Cating and his descendants who led the Wabanaki Indian tribes in a gorilla war, that’s why every single treaty up to the deportation was signed and usually negotiated by this family, so, since the British couldn’t tell those in Acadia who lived like Europeans from those who lived like Indians, the only solution was to deport everyone they could!

    The tricolor French Flag was created after the French revolution, many decades after the deportation, so not a single pre deportation Acadian ever saw that flag, or were in anyway loyal to France leading up to the deportation because France sold all the Acadians to the British for a few small islands and some trade deals!

    The University of Moncton, in collaboration with Quebec, has created a false history and fabricated a cultural lie that never existed.

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  93. "Les Québécois paient aussi des taxes et des impôts et celles-ci vont en partie pour financer la francisation des immigrants afin qu'ils s'intègrent plus facilement à notre collectivité."

    Money well spent, what can I say :>
    Over 80% of those who choose to follow those courses will not assimilate, they will still use english as second language and french as third.

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  94. "Over 80% of those who choose to follow those courses will not assimilate"

    Et vous vous demandez pourquoi nous allons bientôt fermer les valves de l'immigration.

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  95. "Que représente le flux de communications "international" de monsieur Kif-kif?"

    That's not relevant, and anyways do you know the answer? With "import" in their name, one could assume that most of their business is done internationally. But I have no clue.

    And how does "dealing with clients/suppliers internationally" affect the language your in-house employees use? There are certainly tons of companies who have to do business outside this province in other languages, should the same exception apply to them? Are you *actually* defending Bombardier for using english?? (I wouldn't be surprised)

    Just like I said, the language-nazi rules only apply when it doesn't cause an inconvenience for them.
    There can always be a "valid" excuse apparently.

    This just shows that language laws are not addressing a real problem, and do not cause harm to anyone. They are simply based on racism/intolerance. It only bothers you when non-québécois use a different language in this province?

    You can say that you're trying to protect your culture, but you're just lying to yourself. Everyone (except for brainwashed ignorant québécois) knows the truth. I'm sure americans also found many "valid" excuses to justify slavery and segregation.

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  96. "Long live James Wolfe! I love it, my hero"

    Pourquoi pas J.James Charest?Au moins lui.il est toujours vivant...Ou presque.MDR!

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  97. "Et vous vous demandez pourquoi nous allons bientôt fermer les valves de l'immigration. "

    So this is how your logic works? Oh my God...
    If there are no immigrants, who's gonna do your dirty jobs?

    So, we cannot assimilate, we destroy. Hmmm, sounds so constructive...
    Please, cut the immigration.
    What exactly do you think it will happen?

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  98. "What exactly do you think it will happen?"

    Nous verrons bien.Une étape à la fois.

    "If there are no immigrants, who's gonna do your dirty jobs?"

    Quel est le taux de chômage des immigrants au Québec?

    13,7% en 2009

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  99. "So, we cannot assimilate, we destroy. Hmmm, sounds so constructive...
    Please, cut the immigration.
    What exactly do you think it will happen?"


    Logically, you can imagine the Québécois dream:

    - No more dirty english people in this province. If you know more english than Yes, No, Toaster, you are sent to another province.
    - No more dirty foreigners ("vote ethnique") in the province.
    - Any rich Québécois (traitors) like Péladeau are sent to another province
    - Immigration accepted only from french nations. Since nobody from france wants to come here, that means Haiti and other underdeveloped nations.
    - All current businesses/corporations in Quebec (owned by non-francophones) handed over to the unions (FTQ / CSN / International)
    - Unions running all businesses
    - Since the businesses ran by unions will soon fail, all Québécois back to their farms
    - One language only in the province (French)
    - Education ends at grade 6, after that you're expected to go work "à la ferme".
    - Pauline Marois (or Jacques Parizeau) running the province from his or her multi-billion dollar castle on Ile Bizard, going from village to village during election campaigns, giving out household appliances in exchange for votes.

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  100. "- Education ends at grade 6, after that you're expected to go work "à la ferme".

    Sais-tu quelles compétences et investissements sont exigées pour exploiter une ferme aujourd'hui?

    Qu'avais-tu dans ton assiette ce matin ,gros abruti?

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  101. "Sais-tu quelles compétences et investissements sont exigées pour exploiter une ferme aujourd'hui?"

    You're right, things will be worse than what I had imagined.

    The uneducated québécois, after decades of depending on the unions to defend their incompetence and give them excessively high wages, will not be able to run their own farms.

    Furthermore, the province's financial situation after separation (being realistic, not expecting Canada to just hand over whatever we want) will not permit for transfers to farmers. They will no longer have any money to invest.

    Pendant ce temps, Pauline Marois mange du caviar dans son chateau sur l'Ile Bizard, pendant que son mari joue au golf à Elm Ridge avec tous ses amis anglophones et juifs.

    J'espère que les fermiers y ont pensé!

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  102. @NM December 8, 2011 10:36 AM

    I would have to disagree with you on this. I honestly believe that the influx of immigrants it's not to fill 'dirty jobs', but to be employed and pay taxes. And from my experience with businesses (yes, I am an immigrant too), the majority of them are run by immigrants. I guess immigrants have more drive, and pay more taxes. As one 'pur laine' (yes, he did recommended as such when we met) put it: "Work, work, so I can get my BS." I am sure he's not the norm... yeah, right.

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  103. @anon 10:47

    I remember reading an article that the highest unemployment for immigrants was in the regions. Those that were chosen by the Quebec government to come to Quebec because they had prior knowledge of French. While the rate of unemployment for immigrants in the Montreal area, especially those that worked in English dominated fields and/or spoke English as their 1st official language was much lower.

    Also please get statistics on how many pur lainers vs non pur lainers there are on WELFARE AKA bien etre sociale!

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  104. "La dernière chose dont le Québec a besoin est la prolifération de libertariens de votre espèce "

    At least we're making progress in a sense that some begin to notice that some views come out of libertarianism, and not out of francophobia or Quebec-bashing.

    See Anonymous, you begin to get it. People don't hate your language, your culture, or your people. They simply hate being micromanaged, spoonfed, or condescended upon by the gouvernememan that thinks it knows better.

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  105. "Pendant ce temps, Pauline Marois mange du caviar dans son chateau sur l'Ile Bizard, pendant que son mari joue au golf à Elm Ridge avec tous ses amis anglophones et juifs."

    Ça tombe bien,je déteste le caviar et le golf.
    Et vous?Avez-vous quelque chose à reprocher aux anglos et aux Juifs?

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  106. "Et vous?Avez-vous quelque chose à reprocher aux anglos et aux Juifs?"

    I was trying to point out the hypocrisy of separatists...
    Both of those are on your "enemies" list on vigile.net, which the editor posted last week.

    But as I keep saying, they're only enemies until it's convenient for you.

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  107. "At least we're making progress in a sense that some begin to notice that some views come out of libertarianism, and not out of francophobia or Quebec-bashing"

    Pourquoi avez-vous choisi la province du canada la moins favorable et la moins accueillante pour les libertariens?

    Nous n'avons jamais eu de réponse de votre part et je ne crois pas que nous l'aurons aujourdhui ;)

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  108. "I was trying to point out the hypocrisy of separatists..."

    Nous les séparatistes avons bien sûr le monopole de l'hypocrisie...Misère.

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  109. "Long live James Wolfe!"

    4:43 am : Vous auriez dû être au lit et récupérer un peu d'énergie,vous en aviez besoin.

    Chou chou d'amour; Like I've said many times here, I don't live in Canada anymore. Well according to you, I never did since Kweebec is un pays 'esti!

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  110. Tree Stump,

    One thing I observed from the St. John the Baptist's parade was the affinity they had with farm life. No less than three floats depicted country / farm lifestyle and its costumes. None of the floats showed, let us say, aerospace industry. Quebec is the center for that industry and it is fairly easy to portray.

    Why? I think the consciousness of separatists is still on that bygone era, when most of them were peasants.

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  111. @Anon 11:20 AM

    The problem is that already Quebec is controlling their own immigration policy... They seek the best of the best from everywhere.
    I remember that higher education was essential in my file. Masters degree, certifications, they even ask for your grades at school ( yes , i assure you ). It took me 1 day to perform all medical tests: blood, HIV, lungs, skin, STD's ... Also language tests for french and english.
    So you see, in a way, almost all immigrants are some sort of super citizens ;> that can start anywhere form scratch.
    As I said before, 8000 km away from home, in a completely different society and culture ... you have to move fast, to be versatile as f@ck and so on...
    I wonder if you take a pure laine quebecois and send him to ... Germany let's say, or Portugal...or even worse, somewhere in Eastern Europe. What then?

    As I see it, the economy in the world is so fucked up right now, that a major change is mandatory...
    Europe needs to form a unique state or they will blow up. The smaller/poorer countries will soon perish. And I'm not referring dimensions...
    So you see, an freshly independent Quebec , if ever, will fail miserably in any way.

    The problem is: do we want to experiment with our own lives or not? Do we have time and money for that?

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  112. "I wonder if you take a pure laine quebecois and send him to ... Germany let's say, or Portugal...or even worse, somewhere in Eastern Europe. What then?"

    Désolé de vous apprendre que nous allons dans ces pays pour de l'aide humanitaire pas pour bâtir un avenir.Nous revenons chez nous,notre travail accompli.feriez-vous le trajet inverse,vous qui êtes si intelligent? :))

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  113. "No less than three floats depicted country / farm lifestyle and its costumes."

    Hola!Que dire de la St-Patrick?

    Trouille...Oups,pardon,Troy : Vous êtes un petit génie en matière d'histoire et de sociologie.

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  114. "I don't live in Canada anymore"

    Mais peut-être un peu de rancune.Non?

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  115. I'm still waiting to know what should be done about Bombardier, a Quebec corporation, which has been operating in english in this province since the 80s.

    Where are all the separatists and language nazis when the corporations you claim as your own (even though we all know where their capital comes from) don't respect your precious language laws??

    Perhaps Bombardier should move to Ontario, since you guys don't want any "maudits anglais" here? Do you agree, separatists and language nazis?

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  116. "Désolé de vous apprendre que nous allons dans ces pays pour de l'aide humanitaire pas pour bâtir un avenir.Nous revenons chez nous,notre travail accompli.feriez-vous le trajet inverse,vous qui êtes si intelligent? :)) "

    You fail to understand or you avoid the issue.
    I didn't come here in a mission to save lives. I came here to start a new life. My own. Do you consider that you are able to do this in Moldova, let's say? Or Germany?

    Besides that, it YOU les quebecois, or YOU the canadians who went to those countries for humanitarian missions?
    Because i see everyday that Canada is sending this missions not Quebec as a different entity...
    By the way, for this particular reason Canada is seen as a "very good country" everywhere in the world...not Quebec.

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  117. "Perhaps Bombardier should move to Ontario"

    100% daccord,je serais même en faveur du déménagement d'Hydro-Québec en ontario.MDR!

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  118. "que nous allons dans ces pays pour de l'aide humanitaire pas pour bâtir un avenir"

    This is a whole different subject. I recently read an interview with a USAID worker (an equivalent of Canada's International Development) and he recounted how stupid he felt when they sent him to Togo to teach farmers how to farm. It takes astounding levels of arrogance for the West to send young punks to remote regions (that often have been fucked up by western intervention and exploitation) to condescend on these people and teach them "western values". Also, the USAID has been used as a tool by the US government in many countries, like Somalia for example. I forgot the exact mechanism, but in the end the US would get out much more than it contributed to the "aided" country. In most cases, they would get access to their natural resources.

    I know a few people back from McGill who work for Canadian International Development today. The were all in Africa and South America, and some of them literally think they're a godsend to the poor people they were sent to "help out". Listening to this I continue to wonder about the levels of delusion that some people achieve.

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  119. Laugh all you want, we're laughing too (but at you, not with you).

    Just like when I asked you to give me some of your reasons for wanting to separate, you're unable to give me an answer.

    Does the question scare you, or does it just not fit into your little vision of reality?

    Again, I'm certain that you're expecting all corporations to be taken from their owners and handed over to les Québécois.

    Either way, I think I've proved my point: you don't really care that a corporation or person isn't using french. You just don't like seeing any foreigners, and you especially don't like seeing outsiders who are successful. Actually, you don't even like seeing your own people being successful (Péladeau anyone?)
    All the language laws and whatnot aren't meant to protect your language and culture, they are meant to keep the "different" people at bay. They only apply when you feel like it, when it's convenient for you.

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  120. "Laugh all you want, we're laughing too (but at you, not with you)."

    Vous êtes un mauvais garçon...Je vous déteste :(

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  121. @ Anonymous 1:26 PM

    I agree with you - I went through the same drills. Just wanted to point out that the level of education they are seeking it's not to fill out dirty jobs, but to fill out the good ones... because apparently the 'hosts' don't need the good jobs. Plus immigrants have more motivation to work, I think...

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  122. Funny how all of you will rant and bitch on the internet about all that is going on against the English in Quebec yet when there is a demonstration, such as the past 2 (First in April and again in October), yet no one showed up to protest against Bill 101. Things will NEVER change unless every anglo stands up and DEMANDS change and respect. The French fought to get these discriminating laws in place and it is our turn to fight to get us recognized and be respected. Please look out for the next BILL 101 protest that will be taking place within the next few months in downtown Montreal. Change starts with US ANGLOS !!!

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  123. "yet no one showed up to protest against Bill 101"

    If you want more people,bring some free donuts :))

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  124. "...unless every anglo stands up and DEMANDS change and respect."

    Le respect n'est pas une chose acquise...Ça se mérite.

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  125. "...and it is our turn to fight to get us recognized and be respected."

    Avec tout ce qui est publié dans nos médias ces temps-ci,je crois que votre "timing" est plutôt mauvais.Je vous suggère d'attendre quelques mois,si vous n'êtes pas trop pressé,bien sûr.

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  126. A survey says that autism will severely affect 6 French-speaking Quebecois out 10 and our beloved friend Press 9 is an actual proof that supports that claim…Not to mention, trolling around on this blog is the only thing he has as a pass-time since he lives off some sort of disability pension, which BTW, is subsidized, out of our very own pocket when taxation imposed, by the federal government and the fact of the matter is, he is too retarded to get a job or go back to school.
    Mark one thing I am going to say, guys! What he does on a daily basis, is the only thing that will ever come as close as education or work because that Neanderthal, is just as incompetent as used sheet of toilet paper and he’s just probably one of those social outcasts that nobody wants to have in the near proximity or put up/deal with. He is he is just as worthless as a tattered rag covered in shitstain and I think we should just start ignoring his trolls because otherwise, he is gonna keep coming on this blog, spewing nonsense thinking that he is such of great importance, which I believe in my view, happens not to be the case at all.
    Press 9 ou l’anonyme souverainiste…te t’un esti de fuckall de BS a marde qui a aucune ambitions dans vies ,pi arrête de faire chier le monde avec tes commentaire non-valorisée…ta d’l’air d’un crisse d’épais qui a aucune once d’intelligence dans la tétète …tes points de vues au seins de la poliique sont nulle et vide…va donc te taper ta mère (Probably Pauline) pi calice nous donc patience avec tes idéologies politiques régressives et médiocres…va te crosser dans le coin sale déchet humanitaire pour que tu puisse ensuite te valoriser
    Fuck you and eat shit loser,

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  127. Anonymous at 22:32 yesterday,

    "Une chose est certaine : Mon estime de soi ne se mesure pas en $."

    Sure, sure. Have it your way. How do you measure it? Let me know what your achievements are. What about your education? Volunteer activities?

    Surely you do not use the size of your dirk as the measurement of your self-esteem, do you? As it is now, it seems rather low.

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  128. "...tes points de vues au seins de la poliique..."

    Hein?!?

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  129. "Surely you do not use the size of your dirk as the..."

    Hein?!?

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  130. @Anonymous 9h17 PM

    Quelle magnifique réaction!!!...Hahahahahaha!Je vous aimmmmmmmmme!

    Merci ça m'encourage...On lâche pas :))))

    P.S : Nous donnons d'ecxellents cours de français au Québec.

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  131. "A survey says that autism will severely affect 6 French-speaking Quebecois out 10..."

    Vous avez peut-être raison.Ça correspond en moyenne au vote du "non" lors de nos deux référendums.

    BANG!!!

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  132. Anonymous @ December 8, 2011 9:17 PM

    Dude, that was epic. I might quote you.

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  133. "Dude, that was epic. I might quote you"

    Tiens,un autre prix Nobel...Que se passe-t-il ce soir?

    Les plus fûtés sont déjà au lit?

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  134. "He is he is just as..."

    Franchement!Concentrez-vous un peu,êtes-vous dyslexique? :)

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  135. Ok then, no more attention to the troll. Be assured he will withdraw into his shell of insecurity if no one pays any attention. In complete agreement with anon@9:17. Pay not attention to the remarques of the ignorant SOB. For God's sake, He actually believes his precious Quebec is a country. A typical weak mind brainwashed by the Seppies and Pequistes who routinely revise history. One must admit, however, that his remarks are rather amusing and further enlightening unto the manifestations of the brain of a separatiste. Delusional and despotic.

    CUL

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  136. A survey says that autism will severely affect 6 French-speaking Quebecois out 10..."

    Vous avez peut-être raison.Ça correspond en moyenne au vote du "non" lors de nos deux référendums.

    BANG!!!

    c'est plutot l'inverse, pauvre cave

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  137. Anonymous 9h17 PM est probablement un outaouin (de l'Outaouais) car il est aussi mauvais en anglais qu'en français :))

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  138. @ Jason Gendron aka Press 9:

    How would you know about the quality of his English? It's superior to yours.

    I'm not surprised that you look down on "outaouins." You hate just about everyone else around you, like "anglouilles", "canayens" and "amerlocs."

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  139. "You hate just about everyone else around you..."

    You're wrong,i really love redheads from ontayo.They're so hoooot!

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