Wednesday, February 20, 2013

Radio-Canada Serves up Chinese Fodder

Last Friday I featured a link to a Radio Canada video story about those in Montreal's Chinese community who have implanted themselves in suburban Brossard, a prosperous bedroom community just over the Champlain Bridge on the south shore of the St. Lawrence river.

I didn't offer much more than a link to the story and was called out in the comments section for characterizing the piece as a Radio-Canada hatchet job.

You can watch the piece in either English, French or Chinese over at the at the Grand Dossiers website at Radio Canada. English subtitles are provided when necessary. Link

The main focus of the piece was about the Chinese community's difficulty and perhaps refusal to integrate into mainstream francophone society.
The issue of ethnic communities integrating into Quebec society is a touchy subject, with French language militants generally enraged and insulted that these 'outsiders' refuse to join the great francophone society.
Although the producers tried to 'round' off the report with various human interest aspects, there was no getting away at what they were bringing to the table (not egg rolls), that is, that the Chinese community lives apart from mainstream Quebec society in a cocooned and sheltered world, something that remains an anathema to language militants who believe that immigrants are obligated, as part of the implied social contract they accepted when they immigrated, to learn the French language, adopt and assimilate Quebec culture, Marie-Mai, poutine and maple syrup, the whole kit and caboodle.

The piece includes features on several different Chinese, a chef, a mother, a real estate broker, a pastor and some elderly Chinese, each story describing their lives and how they live outside mainstream French milieu.

I'm not sure those who were interviewed understood what was going on, they innocently answered the questions as best they could and freely described that for many in their community, especially the older generation, living apart from mainstream Quebec is de rigueur.

Given the context of language in Quebec, I couldn't help but get the feeling that they were being 'set up' to make the producer's point, that the Chinese are diametrically opposed to assimilation, a poster boy community of uncooperative and recalcitrant social self-imposed isolation.
In many respects, the Chinese were used like the chumps interviewed by Jay Leno on his infamous 'Jaywalking' segment, where stupid people are made fun of without their cottoning to the fact. Take a look .

Now perhaps my interpretation of the motives of the film maker is flawed and paranoid.
If so, I apologize for that conclusion, but after screening the video there was one thing that I was dead sure of, that it wouldn't take long before an outraged response to the story would appear on vigile.net, decrying the continuing ethnic rejection and humiliation of Francophone society.

Readers, I was not to be disappointed, but more on that a bit further on.

I hope you watch the videos, if not, these screen caps sum up the piece rather succinctly.

Looking at the story in the context of the current language debate and the overriding fear that ethnics are choosing to live apart or in English, it's not a reach to conclude that the Chinese were being served up to language militants, like a red flag waved in front of a bull's nose to elicit a reaction.



 The quotes in the screen caps above pretty much summed up where the story was going.

"No speakee da Englese"
I'm writing this post in a hotel room looking down on the Manhattan bridge in New York City, on the Brooklyn side of the East river.
Crossing the bridge over to Manhattan, vehicles are deposited onto Canal Street, directly into one of the great and most famous 'Chinatowns' of the western world. The quaint and touristy neighbourhood is famous for its Chinese restaurants and knockoff Louis Vuitton purses and Rolex watches, hawked right on the curbs of Mott Street and environs, to rapacious tourists out for adventure and bargains.
The most popular Chinese restaurant with visitors is the cavernous Jim Fong, where dim sum is served up by decidedly non-English speaking waiters.
The neighbourhood is also home to a local community that lives and breathes in Chinese, a place where one can live an entire life without a word of English.

Back here in Brooklyn, just a couple of miles down the road from my hotel room, is another 'Chinatown', this one in the neighbourhood known as Sunset Park and interestingly, it's even bigger and more 'ethnic,' than its more famous cousin in Manhattan.

One thing both these Chinatowns have in common is the fact that many of its Chinese residents live, work and recreate entirely in Chinese, the same as some in the Brossard community featured in the Radio-Canada story.
I'm reliably informed by someone who works in a local hospital in Sunset Park that many, if not the majority of the local adult Chinese seeking medical help, speak no English at all.

I guess it's pretty much the same all over North America, be it San Francisco, Vancouver or Toronto, where in my favourite Chinese food restaurant on Spadina, it is a case of pointing at the English side of the menu, in order to be understood by the aging waiters, who only speak a rudimentary version of pidgeon-English.

In Sunset Park as in Brossard, it is true that one can live an entire life in Chinese, but it's important to note that the phenomenon applies exclusively to first generation immigrants, even those who have lived there for fifty years.
Come to think of it, the same applies to the Russian community of Brighton Beach, another storied Brooklyn neighbourhood nicknamed Little Odessa, because of the many resident who hail from the Ukranian city.
Here too, many first generation immigrants live their entire lives in Russian, eschewing English on every level..

Sunset Park's English-speaking next generation
It's no big deal.
Nobody in New York city is demanding that these non-English speakers become good citizens by learning English and adopting baseball, hot dogs and Lady Gaga.

Of course this aversion to English (or French in Brossard) disappears with the rise of the second and third generation, something that the Radio-Canada piece mentions, but doesn't highlight, choosing to concentrate on the first generation Chinese immigrants, who like their counterparts in Brooklyn choose to remain safely ensconced in their community.

And so the Radio-Canada story while factually correct, holds up the insular Chinese community of Brossard as some strange and isolated phenomenon, ignoring the fact that the Chinese 'experience' is pretty much the same across North America.
The story's intended or unintended consequence is to fan the flames of outrage by French language militants who whine about the injustice of it all, like a bad 'done-me-wrong' country song.

Now to the vigile.net reaction, where one of its resident xenophobe contributors Jacques Noël, lashed out indignantly at the sad state of affairs over these stubborn immigrant Chinese, who unfairly shun the French language and culture.
"In many ways, the Chinese immigrants are models. They work hard, very hard. Their children do well in school. They commit few crimes, at least few violent crimes. But as to their cultural integration into Quebec society, it is a total failure. Total. Total.

Quebec society is stuck. Wedged between immigration from the Maghreb, whose members speak French but who certainly don't fit in, are a little scary and who impoverish Quebec and the Chinese immigrants who are very productive, very enriching, but who do not fit in and do not want to speak French.
Add the Jews of Boisbriand and Côte St-Luc,
Caribbean
s from NDG and St-Michel and you have many failures, sometimes cultural, sometimes language, sometimes economic, sometimes everything. Link{Fr}
Hmmm......The above screed, to those unfamiliar with the separatist website, vigile.net, is not an exception, it is an example of the type of xenophobia that is published on an ongoing basis.

One of the great complaints of the sovereignty industry is the fact that not enough immigrants adopt French and francophone culture and that Bill 101 and other measures are required to redress the shocking situation, else-wise Quebec will become anglicized and/or overrun with foreign influence.

Mr Parent and others of his ilk who are opposed to immigration, advocate that these people don't integrate well and when they do, much too many choose the English side of the language equation, a sad and unintended consequence of allowing the English community to survive.

I'll delve into that subject, the assimilation of immigrants in another post.

At any rate, I stand by my conclusion that the Radio-Canada story was about as honest as Jay Leno interviewing idiots.
The story wasn't meant to honour or explore the Chinese community of Brossard, but rather to shame them and show them up for dishonouring the francophone majority.

260 comments:

  1. FROM ED
    Some Chinese may live in conclaves or ghettos but the ones that mix in the communities assimilate very well. The 40 or so who live on my street in Verdun all speak English and are a proud and happy people. Some buy tenaments and are very good to their tenants.

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  2. I made good friends with a whole family from Greenfield Park while studying at Concordia. They all speak English, Toysunese (the provincial dialect where their parents came from) and they learned respectable French. Four of the five children live in Toronto now, the other opened a Chinese restaurant for a time in the East End near Olympic Stadium, and he improved his French (clientele) and his Cantonese (kitchen staff). Quadralingual in Quebec...having to enhance two other languages in Quebec to effectively run his business...imagine.

    As for the SRC's raison d'être for airing that story...ho hum...next!

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  3. Lord Dorchester

    How dare they refuse to abandon their 10,000 year old culture and adopt the nouveau 40 year old Québécois culture/values that are clearly superior and much more advanced in every way.

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  4. FROM ED
    I can't help wondeing about things like income tax. Does the government send forms in their language. If not, I'm sure they have someone who does it for them. Would that person use the French forms or the English. If the Quebec government supplies forms in Chinese they are recognizing the legitimacy of the language. Ed

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    1. Ed, the Quebec government sends tax forms in English to individuals (but no longer to corporations) because the federal government supplies French forms to every province and territory in Canada, so it's a form of reciprocity; furthermore, those English forms are responsible for 40% of the tax base yet only about 20% are filed in English, if that many. The fact they don't issue corporate forms in English anymore (they make courtesy translations for those who need it to better understand the return and forms, but they cannot file in English, which to me is unconstitutional, even if it's a corporation).

      Believe me, Ed, if they could force us to file in French, they would. They already force other forms in other government departments to be filed in French if it's a Quebec-based business (CSST especially). The way I see it, eventually the Quebec government will not deal with ANYONE FOR ANY GOVERNMENT SERVICE in English. The day will come. Things are tending that way right now!

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    2. That's why we must stop Bill 14 and do everything possible to make their lives as miserable as we possibly can. Dammed if we do and dammed if we don't but there is no other choice.

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    3. @cutie003

      no other choice than to make your neighbor's life miserable?!?

      dude you have a serious imagination deficiency.

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  5. FROM ED
    After my wife and son died in the same week, I was in a dither for about a month. My sister and her husband had come from California for the funerals and Pete took us to Chinatown for dinner. The place was dimly lit and coming out of the well lit washroom into the dim dining area I managaed to feel my way to my chair and started eating. It slowly dawned on me that I didn't know the woman facing me and that the man sitting beside me was not my brother-in-law but none other than Jean Beliveau. Big Jean looked around and spotted my empty chair and pointed it out just as Pete had come to get me. I still don't know whose dinner I ate and I'm pretty sure I ate twice at two different tables. Ed

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  6. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE CALGARYWednesday, February 20, 2013 at 6:11:00 AM EST

    "with French language militants generally enraged and insulted that these 'outsiders' refuse to join the great francophone society."
    Insulted? I think those Chinese folks are actually smart for not jumping at the "golden opportunity" (sarcasm) to learn joual. If I were Chinese, immigrating from the PRC or Taiwan, getting into the òutside`world, well, for one I would aim at English. French... not on my list. Especially not a bastardized version of Moliere`s tongue such as joual. Tabarnak!
    So..... if a government must force feed joual down all immigrants`throats, well, joual is dead. quebec is also dead. Speaking of dead... that police raid at Montreal`s city hall. Corruption is and will remain a great cultural trait of an independant quebekistan; as in Haiti, Cameroon, North Korea or Greece. That `projet de societe`... a smell a stink here. Big, corrupt stink. I bet all of you that as the Charbonneau Commision digs deeper, unions will be linked to corruption. The sacro-saint quebec establishment. Unions are also corrupt in quebec. Corrupt to the core=quebekistan.

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    1. Encore les vapeurs toxiques du bitume?Ou les traumatismes de votre enfance?

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    2. "If I were Chinese, immigrating from the PRC or Taiwan, getting into the òutside`world, well, for one I would aim at English. French... not on my list."

      no french? even if you move to a french speaking country, town and neighborhood? what about chinese immigrants that move to france? do you think they should learn french un gars?

      "...that police raid at Montreal`s city hall. Corruption is and will remain a great cultural trait of an independant quebekistan;"

      really that's a weird statement mate cause yesterday's raid targeted corrupted federalist liberal mob.

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    3. God they're stupid. "targeted corrupted federalist liberal mob" - what a pile of BS. They raid the City of Montreal Offices and all of a sudden it's federalist? This is not a Fench speaking country - this is an English speaking country - french merely live in one area of our country of Canada. Another stupid comment - perhaps separatists should buy a globe or look at a map. Idiots.

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    4. @cutie003

      "They raid the City of Montreal Offices and all of a sudden it's federalist?"

      of course it is. and it's not "all od a sudden". union montreal is a spinoff of the federalist liberal party of quebec. didn't you know cutie003?

      "this is an English speaking country - french merely live in one area of our country of Canada."

      right, right. sorry i keep forgeting this bit. then replace country by province in my previous comment, take a deep breath and answer the question.

      p.s. stop insulting me please. it's puerile cutie003.

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    5. @ugBSdg


      Surprise! L'Ontario et l'Alberta risquent de faire défaut avant le Québec

      http://www.lesaffaires.com/bourse/nouvelles-economiques/surprise-l-ontario-et-l-alberta-risquent-de-faire-defaut-avant-le-quebec/550069

      Oups!

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    6. Actually, the Chinese are smart... they are now learning french specifically because Quebec immigration policies make it easier to enter into Quebec if you know french. But they do it to get into Canada, not Quebec, its a way to distinguish themselves.

      I know a guy from Lebanon that is using this to his advantage... he speaks French so he got into Canada from quebec, then simply moved to Ontario and is now going to school for a couple of years so that once he gets his canadian passport he says it will make it easier for him to travel.

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    7. quebec would never admit it Pauline but that's exactly what is happening. Strictly easier to enter Canada and move to where the really want to be, not to stay in the province. That is what is happening since quebec took over it's own immigration and will continue to happen. Not much other criteria is looked at except "do you speak french"? Again, too much power given to quebec and it has to stop. No more power of any kind to this province - they always try to stack the deck for separation with any power and money they are given except the immigration factor has backfired in their face. lol

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    8. @cutie003

      don't you think francophones should be given extra points when applying for quebec residency cutie003? don't you think it would ease their adaptation, considering 80% of quebec's population is francophone?

      same with ontario, don't you think english speaking applicants should get a headstart with respect to a dude that can't communicate in english?

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    9. Most of the non Francophone immigration to Quebec is family related immigration from communities that have a strong tie with English Quebec. Quebec already goes out of its way to select immigrants that are already French speaking. The only class that one really has to come to Quebec is the business and investor class, many in this class of immigration get access to Canada and stay here a short while before moving to somewhere else in Canada.

      The immigrants that are family class will integrate into the English community because they are more likely to get employment. Despite that the immigrants that only speak English as the 1st official language still make more money then immigrants that speak only French. When the French speaking immigrants see that, they to want to get access to learning English. Another important factor pushing immigrants and their second generation children away from integrating as Quebecois, is the fact that they are denied jobs in proportional numbers to Quebecois dominated industries and government jobs. Then when forced to find employment in the more allophone and anglophone sectors the PQ and MMF types complain about anglicizing of immigrants.

      So many friends that were forced under bill 101 to French school and are fluent in French ended up working in English dominated industry or moved out of Quebec.

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    10. Baloney again - to immigrate to Ontario one has to be able to communicate in EITHER french or english. Again only quebec shows its bigotry by taking people that only speak french. Why do these separatists insist that the ROC does not GO OUT OF IT'S WAY TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR FRANCOPHONE FRIENDS AND NEIGHBOURS IN EVERY ASPECT OF THEIR LIVES? Only quebec is racist in immigration and in acceptance of other languages and cultures. It's always take, take, and take some more - pushy, arrogant, know-it-all, isolationists - nothing else.

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    11. Please.........-it's always the federal government that's at fault with you separatists - it's never part of the separatist culture in quebec that everyone is on the take. Wow - the logic of the thinking of you people eludes me no end. The unions and everyone else in quebec is so crooked that it is laughable and you try to blame the federal government. Get a grip.

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    12. @cutie003

      "Again only quebec shows its bigotry by taking people that only speak french."

      ?!?!?!

      what? quebec shouldn't take in francophones now?!? dude that's crazy.

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    13. Careful, Cutie. You're feeding the separatist fires again and encouraging the chimpanzees on...unless you're one of them too....??????

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    14. hahahahahahahahahahahahah and lololololololol - that's the day that pigs fly!

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    15. @cutie003

      "hahahahahahahahahahahahah and lololololololol - that's the day that pigs fly!"

      should i understand this as an admission that you are also stubborn?

      what if you are wrong and quebec's independance ends up being quite a good idea? why don't you allow yourself some room to change your mind in case one day a separatist convinces you his way is the one to go?

      that would be better intellectual strategy.

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  7. Of course the piece on Chinese immigrants was a set up. It may not have been blatant but it was inevitable. Before anyone working at Radio-Canada can point a finger at any other community, he should first have a good look at his own workplace. I have several friends there. Each has told me that he has never had to report to a manager who was not French Canadian.

    The CBC reports at its website that 6.8% of its workforce is composed of visible minorities. No breakdown is given for managerial positions or the French language division (Radio-Canada) of the CBC. However what we do know is that 25% of Canadians are now visible minorities, with this number expected to rise to 30% in the next 10 years. 55% of the population of Vancouver is visible minority, 47% of Toronto, and yes, 30% of Montrealers are now from visible minority communities, i.e. of non white-European heritage.

    So, if only 6.8% of the entire CBC is visible minority, I would hazard to guess that it must be the Radio-Canada component that brings the number so low. Hell, pay a visit to Maison Radio-Canada in east end Montreal. It's apartheid heaven. Yet if you took the metro to get there, you would have gotten a much more accurate picture of who Montrealers really are.

    But the most telling example of the whites only, French Canadians only, private club that calls itself Radio-"Canada" is this clip from Tout le Monde en Parle, showing our Minister of Canadian Heritage, James Moore defending the level of support given by all Canadians to this unequal opportunity eyesore. See if you can spot a single visible minority: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKczSdo5pEA

    Les Nègres blancs d'Amérique? More like Les Maîtres Blancs d'Outremont.

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    2. I just watched the TLMEP clip. My overall taker from it is puzzlement on what compelled J.Moore to even come to this show. He didn't have to. His government owes nothing to QC, so this public self flagellation and apologizing in front of a separatist crowd was totally unnecessary.

      Some questions thrown at Moore related to the support for francophone culture in Canada. All coming from people who enthusiastically embrace the supremacy of their culture over all others in their backyard, now grilling a Canadian minster on his alleged failings in promoting their culture in other people's backyard, with D.Turcotte even resorting at 8:07 to making an allusion to separation by bringing up the gap between QC and the RoC under Harper (as if that gap didn't exist before, and as if the gap was a creation of Ottawa only, with no contribution of belligerent QC governments)

      This whole "interview" reeked of hypocrisy of those present in the studio, hypocrisy representative QC's cultural and political elite. I have to commend Moore for his patience and class. He did really well considering the circumstances the put himself in.


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    3. What he said !!!! Thank you adski

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    4. Dear Anonymous, 


      I thank you for participating, but please do not insult and defame French Canadians by including them with les Québécois. The word Québécois has been hijacked by the hateful xenophobe separatists and is no longer the descriptor for a Canadian Francophone or a person of French descent. I believe that if we remember that the Racist Québécois is by choice not a Canadian, we may be able to expose these cornered racist rats from the dark sewers of their hateful heart!

      Thank you

      A Canadian Quebecer who will NEVER be une Québécoise!

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  8. Bunch of hypocrites - always bitching about being assimilated by anglophones but insisting that they are entitled to assimilate every other culture and language in bigoted, racist, quebec. What the hell business is it of theirs how these people live and thrive? Why do they feel they have the right to impose their language and culture on everyone else that happens to live in quebec? Pisses me off no end. Mind their own GD business and leave other people to mind theirs.

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    1. We need to Partition Party is needed. Most of this rhetoric is screamed to satisfy extremism in Saguenay, Magdelen Island, Lower North Shore, who are afraid of being overun by anglophones.

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    2. Yes Liam but join with the Equality Party 2.0 as they may, if members want it, make it part of their platform given the failure of peace with quebec at some point in time.

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  9. "But the most telling example of the whites only, French Canadians only, private club that calls itself Radio-"Canada" is this clip from Tout le Monde en Parle, showing our Minister of Canadian Heritage, James Moore defending the level of support given by all Canadians to this unequal opportunity eyesore. See if you can spot a single visible minority: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKczSdo5pEA

    Les Nègres blancs d'Amérique? More like Les Maîtres Blancs d'Outremont"

    @ Anon

    I watched the video (link you provided) and I am no fan of that show; it stirs up sheer antipathy in me. Not my cup of tea to what a bunch of separatist xenophobes sit around pointing the finger, and stirring up more separatist soup for the consumption of the Clueless.

    Did you ever see more shit-faced people in your life? Here's this guy, James Moore, a Federal Conservative Minister, a guy from BC, who has become perfectly bilingual and who doesn't even really need to give these losers out here the time of day..considering... but makes the time to go and sit down with them in this ‘pur-laine-only-club’ that is this show ..TLMEP (rolling my eyes) and ‘makes nice’. And they all seem so bloody bothered, miffed, turning their noses up as if the entire thing of having to speak to him were completely beneath them. Pas du monde accueillant on dirait (still rolling my eyes).


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  10. Defund CBC/Radio Canada. It well beyond time Radio-Canada actually made money than depend on government money to openly promote it's racist idealogy.

    Speaking about Vigile. 12% of funding collected. Keep up the good work Vigile, even though I would not be paid to read that rag.

    Talking about immigration, i beleive that success should be mesured on ability to create wealth. I don't care if the chinese don't watch hockey,don't listen to Marie-Mai or don't speak french. Frannkly, I don't watch hockey and listen to Marie-Mai and I really don't care what other people think. We don't all lik the same think, and frankly their is nothing wrong with.

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    1. "...12% of funding collected. Keep up the good work Vigile, even though I would not be paid to read that rag."

      huh? so you go to vigile.net strictly to monitor the progress of their funding?!? that's odd. maybe you should read some of their articles. amongst others richard le hir is essential i believe.

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    2. We have a large "Chinatown" in Ottawa also where people go to the restaurants to eat - we do not interfere in their lives - I've never ever heard anyone say that they have not integrated into our society. Again, we mind our own business and don't tell others how to live or what language they should speak. Ignorance as to how to be civil is prominent in quebec society.

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    3. @cutie003

      "I've never ever heard anyone say that they have not integrated into our society."

      well maybe that's because they have integrated ottawa society cutie003. seems the chinese in brossard didn't. it's legetimate to wonder why.

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    4. Chinatown here in Ottawa is exactly the same as Brossard - they live the way they want to with their own people but we know enough to mind our own business and go to their restaurants because we enjoy them THE WAY THEY ARE - not what we think they should be.

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    5. In general I oppose the Conservative assault on cultural institutions. If Conservatives had their way, we'd all be trained robots who go between their jobs and homes, rarely reflecting on the bigger picture, without thinking about about the political dimension of our existence, without nurturing our cultural needs. And there is something inhuman in this. Without cultural enrichment and without the time to decompress and without the possibility of pursuing interests outside the work sphere, individuals suffer, and the social fabric gets shredded. In the meantime, those that push the "work ethic" spend their days on golf courses, traveling, giving pep talks, or indulging in other forms of leisure. Those who work harder and harder have less and less, those who spin the pro-work propaganda work little or not at all.

      Having said that, however, I must add that I do not consider Radio Canada a culturally enriching medium. It's mostly a politcal operation employing people very devoted and committed to the nativist and exclusionary vision of Quebec. Therefore, I do not mind the Conservative assault on Radio Canada so much. Since anything cultural about Radio Canada gets drowned out by the political, I see it as an assault on a propaganda machine rather than a cultural medium.

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    6. @adski

      i think it's important to have a public television. at least a few channels that don't have a commercial raison d’être. because radio-canada's quality is way way way better than tva or v, quebec can't culturally afford to lose it.

      granted télé-québec also exists. but what these guys can produce is constrained by ottawa's crtc. for example, télé-québec can't air a daily news program. how absurd is that?!?

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    7. adski: I think it's time that the public purse was not used to support CBC - the french language station has been infiltrated by all kinds of separatists and if they want it, let them pay for it - I resent having to pay for anything to do with separatism as I'm sure all federalists do.

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    8. Adski, Cutie and student: Frankly, I've had it with the CBC, period. Aside from some hockey games (TSN and the French equivalent are way better), the CBC is 100% useless. It's run by extremists who want to put their political statements, esp. the SRC. When Howard Galganov was heading up the Quebec Political Action Committee (QPAC), his appearances on the SRC were endlessly dubbed, voiced over and other audio trickery was used to distort and deceive what he was actually saying. As a result, he stopped talking to the French media altogether because of audio the trickery and blatant written misquotes.

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    9. And where the hell were the CRTC and where are they now when it comes to french CBC broadcasting? People have been complaining about the separatist movement taking over the CBC for a long time - I hope Harper pulls the plug on it - no way taxpayers should be forking out even more money to the separatists. Let Parizeau and Miss Piggy pay for their publicity - they have plenty of money.

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    10. @sauga

      "...his appearances on the SRC were endlessly dubbed, voiced over and other audio trickery was used to distort and deceive what he was actually saying."

      really? can you provide examples of that? i'd like to judge for myself. thanks.

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    11. student: You'll have to address Mr. Galganov for specifics. You may contact him at wwww.galganov.com. I'm very confident he'll straighten you out!

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    12. @sauga

      ah! you don't have anyhing on hand, then. that's a shame.

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    13. To the Mao Che Tung red square wearing, sieg heil' saluting student,
      Is this the Richard Le Hir you are talking about?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7vkpaVZW1s

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    14. @teacher

      yep that's him. wow you're good.

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  11. @ Editor

    It is no secret that the Chinese community (for the most part) is a very insular community and often when they settle in different parts of the world they remain thus. The “Radio Canada” piece was a cheap shot and whoever is aware of the dynamics of this community, knows that this is how most behave throughout the world wherever they may decide to immigrate and settle. So claiming it is a rejection of the ‘Quebecois society’, and making it (Qs) out to be the victim again at the hands of these immigrants...is such a dirty underhanded low blow even for them. No one is surprised they would pull such of stunt on an unsuspecting community; honestly they ought to have their asses kicked for such a miserable exploit. Thank you for calling them out on it.

    You make a very good point regarding the fact that though a community may decide to go about their lives peacefully contributing in their own way to a host-society, that they should be commended, not vilified. And to be fair, there are many communities throughout the world that settle in places, contribute and don`t necessarily integrate. Is this SUCH a huge sin? In one of my previous jobs, though I did not work for the “Traffic Dept”, I was often called to play interpreter since there were Transport Brokers down right by the Texas border with Mexico, who ran their companies without ever speaking a word of English.

    Also, on a totally unrelated topic...NEW RULE, Marie-Mai should pay JF Lisée royalties for name dropping, since no one even knew who she was prior to him mentioning her name ...and now...everyone is mentioning it. LOL

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    1. To be honest I never heard of her until I read her name on this blog.

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    2. @Cutie
      I still don't know who she is, I can't be bothered to google her lol

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    3. @anectote & cutie003

      two proud ignorants.

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    4. Congrats, student! You just proved what an ignoramus
      YOU are!!! Tote 'n' Cutie: I don't know what this Marie-Mai thing is myself. There are times in life when ignorance is bliss.

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    5. Just goes to prove Mr. Sauga that they are so conceited and full of themselves about their language and culture, that every quebecois that makes a record or has a stage show is to be recognized and adored by all the world without question. Crazy bunch to say the least. And by the way, who just fed a troll? - lol

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    6. Unless of course you're one yourself???????????

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    7. Hey forget Marie whatever, (I still can’t be bothered), if Red (Never got a Dinner) Buttons was a blast, Carol Burnett draped in a drape as Scarlett O’Hara is absolutely priceless!!!

      Editor I beg your indulgence, we’re already laughing...LOL ‘NEVA GOTTA PASTA’, c’mon you can’t beat CB in Gone with the Wind? Lol

      And it’s appropriate since, this province, most of the time, makes everyone feel like we’re in the “deep south”

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjhtxfSMIWk

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    8. "two proud ignorants"

      Des vrais "canadians" quoi :)

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    9. @sauga

      "You just proved what an ignoramus YOU are!!!"

      really? what is it that i ignore sauga? i merely underlined cutie003's and anectote's statements about not knowing who marie-mai is and the pride they seem to get out of it. i can't figure out how you could conclude i was an ignorant from this.

      @cutie003

      "...that every quebecois that makes a record or has a stage show is to be recognized and adored by all the world without question."

      oh that's bad. most abusive stretch of the day in my humble opinion: i never even stated if i thought marie-mai was good or not!

      no the point here is you take pride out of not knowing something. and that's quite lame.

      the normal reaction would have been or to refrain from commenting on something you ignore or to go to youtube, listen to a couple of songs and come back with a basis for your "opinion". what do you know? maybe she's really good! because of this stubborn and closed attitude of yours you probably miss out on a lot of great quebec things cutie003.

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    10. Une chose est certaine est que je préférerais passer une soirée avec Marie-Mai qu'avec une 50+ ménauposée :)

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    11. OK Cutie, in the game of tit for tat, you just titted my tat...or did you tat my tit? No breast jokes, please.

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  12. Immigrant integration is a very complex matter that involves a TWO-way commitment and openness of BOTH the host and the immigrant. To present the full picture, the host's role must also be analyzed, as well as the fact that human beings are not machines with a switch that can be flipped when place of residence is changed. The American academic of Palestinian descent Edward Said, for example, spent most of his life in the US, later working a professor at Columbia, yet he still penned a book called "Reflections on Exile". After 50 years in the US, he still felt as if in exile. In a C-SPAN interview shortly before his death, Said said that even though New York City is the place where he feels most comfortable in the world, he is still torn between the two worlds of his early childhood and most of his adult life and doesn't really feel at home anywhere in the world.

    Now comes this simplistic piece on Radio Canada that smears the targeted immigrant community and refuses to consider deeper aspects of the issue and refrains from taking a look at the "host" side of the issue. It simply assumes that the hosts are gentle and welcoming people, with no prejudice or fault, and it's just these ungrateful immigrants who self isolate and refuse to flip the switch and exchange their cultures and histories that sometimes taught them completely different values (often of thrift and modesty), for the new culture of materialism, consumerism, nativism, arrogance, and greed.

    I personally think that the standard for integration should be the knowledge of the local language. If you know French, you're considered integrated. Setting the bar higher than that and continuously escalating it, to the point of insinuation that French should be spoken at home and that Quebecois popular culture embraced, is a utopia that will never be realized. But maybe that's the point - set the goal that's unreachable and that way you keep the population divided and bickering over cultural issues while being distracted from relevant matters, like the economy for example.



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  13. FROM ED
    I was on the vigile site but I couldn't find where to post. I wanted to tell them they should install a button to translate posts into English so I can read them faster. Ed

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    1. try this link ed:

      http://www.vigile.net/message1150.html

      or you can set up google chrome to translate to english automatically.

      i would suggest you still read vigile.net in french, though, as google translations are very approximate. and you would not want to miss important nuances when reading about touchy issues such as identity and immigration.

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    2. @adski

      i'm serious. if you read vigile.net through a translator you will miss out. better than nothing if you don't read french, though.

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    3. You will miss out on linguistic nuance, but not on political/cultural nuance, since the latter is absent.

      In English, you'd get a simplified version of the drivel that you'd get in French in a more expressive form.

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    4. @adski

      "...but not on political/cultural nuance, since the latter is absent."

      i think you're wrong. debates between partisans of the parti québécois, québec solidaire and option nationale are all about nuances, mate.

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    5. @Ed

      I know you're kidding since no self-respecting individual would think to peak in on that odious race-hating site. Why would anyone who is not a Tremblay or a Belanger drop in even for a mere "hello", which they will most likely twist and take the wrong way, or probably just delete altogether. But, we let trolls run around to their hearts content on this blog, don't we? Yesssss....because that's Democracy!

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    6. @anectote

      "I know you're kidding since no self-respecting individual would think to peak in on that odious race-hating site."

      up there you mentioned vigile.net has gathered 12% of its annual funding.

      did you take a peak, or do you respect yourself?

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    7. Someone please convey the message to the asshole that he's either drunk or high!
      Thank you

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    8. @anectote

      i'm high, mate. high on life.

      i checked and in fact it's liam that according to you has no self respect.

      sorry about that.

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    9. Stop causing trouble jerk, go find a highway to play on. We're pretty much sick of you here.

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    10. ToTo est fâché,il n'a pas eu l'auditoire escompté.

      Du calme Totty,il y aura bien une prochaine fois...

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    11. @anectote

      dude stop insulting me. it's not getting anywhere you know?

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    12. Is that what I’m doing? Insulting you? Ahhh “dude”.. I feel so badddddd...LOL. I will say this and then I will shut the door on feeding the insidious, since you deserve to starve.

      Your attempts to try and sabotage and undermine what is being accomplished here, on this blog, are as useless as the protruding parts of your body and I don’t mean your nose.

      Frankly, you’re boring. And once Editor finally realizes it as well, he will delete every bull crap BORING comment you make so we can finally be rid of you for good.

      “We” on the other hand, aren’t going anywhere. You see...Editor is doing a tremendous job of reawakening a renewed consciousness in “Les autres”...so we’re stayin’ right here, AND WE’RE JUST GETTIN’ STARTED.

      Deal with that!

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      that's a little better. but you're not there yet.

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  15. Here's a fun video of quebecers and asians getting along,

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=529_1361049066

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  16. None of the first generation immigrants fully integrate, some non-integration being more visible than others by their number. I'm Polish and my parent's friends are Polish. I have none and I speak French at home. And my French is good, far better than that of native Quebecois.
    And I actually have a good job and I pay a lot of taxes. Something I cannot tell about most of my former friends from my very Quebecois highschool I went to.
    So I would say that the native French speaking Quebecois are that ones who fail to integrate in Quebec. They fail to get good jobs and they don't speak French well enough. And they try to blame everything on others.

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    1. Dziękuję bardzo! Oops, I better be careful... the Editor deletes comments in other languages while protecting our pet troll's "caca, pipi" comments...

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  17. Don't forget the interview today on CTV News Montreal with Dr. Coulliard.

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    1. From the "How to Comment on This Blog" section above: No grammar cops or spelling monitors, we are here for ideas.

      Thank you for following the rules.

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  18. Regardez ceci les angryphones:

    La majorité des anglophones croient pouvoir réussir au Québec

    http://quebec.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/02/20/sondage-la-majorite-des-anglophones-croient-pouvoir-reussir-quebec_n_2725448.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009

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    1. Following years of upwardly mobile Anglos leaving the province to find better paying jobs and freedom as they saw no future here, of course the percent of those that see a future here will be high, they're the only ones that stayed.

      The comments section of that piece was quite the collection of bottom feeders, proclaiming the English to be the great destroyers, who live in their walled off ghettos, while looking down on the poor downtrodden Francophones masses. It would be funny, if these people weren't serious, sheesh. You'd think that after reading an article about how most Anglophones think its important to know about Quebec culture and know French they'd be a bit more positive.....guess not, no winning with close minded people with chips on their shoulders. Maybe one day they'll realize that everyone from the 18th century is long dead and its time to let bygones be bygones, one can only hope.

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    2. jmic75, once again, you show the most erudite comment of the day.

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  19. Bob Bastien posted the following comment to the Editor last weekend:

    "I am curious though as to why you characterize the Radio Canada Grand Dossier on Brossard Chinatown as a "hatchet job". I explored the feature thoroughly and found it quite informative. Do you really think you can call something a "hatchet job" and not have to back it up with facts when you're called on it? What do you think that does to your credibility?"

    I think the Editor has more than satisfactorily responded to the question and I would be very interested in seeing Mr. Bastien's rebuttal - but I doubt he has one.

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    1. They never do and when they do, rest assured they will twist it into something entirely different so that they look good and everyone else looks bad. I think I may have said this already earlier today. LOL!

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    2. Dear Editor,

      I don't know who the "they" are that AnecTOTE alludes to, but rest assured I have no intention of trying to make anyone look bad.

      First of all, I would like to apologize to you for the somewhat aggressive tone in my comment of February 16. By combining separate posts of mine into what appears to be one post, Durham above, has made them appear even more aggressive. My first comment actually said "An interesting read. I am curious though as to why you characterize the Radio Canada Grand Dossier on Brossard Chinatown as a "hatchet job". I explored the feature thoroughly and found it quite informative. I especially appreciated the trilingual interface." and was posted at 6:29 pm on Feb. 15. At 8:27 pm the same day, not having received a reply, I peevishly posted the comment, "Anybody?" At 9:05 pm, you posted a reply to the effect that you were unable to respond as you were out of town, but promising "...a response which I hope you and readers will find interesting..." Unfortunately, I did not see this response, and mildly exasperated, posted my final comments at 2:09 pm on February 16. Had I seen your response at that time, I would not have made those remarks about credibility.

      Which is not to say that I agree with you. As the saying goes, just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean that they're not out to get you, but it appears to me that you are unfairly ascribing motives to the Radio Canada producers. The tag line for the Grands Dossiers series is "Pour mieux comprendre votre milieu". Call me naive, but I see the piece as nothing more than an objective look at the flourishing Chinese community that has established itself in Brossard. That Chinese people are able to live in Chinese in the great city of Brossard is not some dirty little secret that shouldn't be mentioned in polite company. To me, it's something to be celebrated. I appreciate the work of the Grands Dossiers team in sharing my neighbours' story with me - in three languages.

      And I thank you for having this blog which gives us the opportunity to discuss these issues of mutual interest.

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    3. "Call me naive", lol Hardly!

      "but I see the piece as nothing more than an objective look at the flourishing Chinese community that has established itself in Brossard. That Chinese people are able to live in Chinese in the great city of Brossard is not some dirty little secret that shouldn't be mentioned in polite company"

      And there you have it folks...Exhibit A...

      Spin-doctor much? LOL

      “And I thank you for having this blog which gives us the opportunity to discuss these issues of mutual interest.”

      Lord, deliver us from these veiled attempts at sincerity disguised by hollow “politically correct” comments. Amen


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    4. AnecTOTE, did your parents abandon you at the mall when you were young? So much cynicism! For the record, I have no relationship to Radio Canada, apart from supporting it with my taxes. And that's verifiable, because unlike you, I have the gonads to use my real name. Is that politically correct enough for ya?

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    5. No, but did yours drop you on your head? Straight-faced you can honestly tell us that the RC piece is ligit to you? If it is you are not only naive, you are SLOW!

      I suggest you view those clips again, this time, with an 'objective eye'...yes? Can you manage that?? Then come back to us!

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  20. FROM ED
    I was very impressed by Dr. Couillard. He walked the tight rope nicely. He is absolutely right when he refuses to appoint a minister for english people. It would inflame the Francophones and is no more needed that the OCLF. He says all citizens rights are equal and he is right so if he pursues that line, (which the way he talks I believe he will) he will soon get rid of anti-english bills and signs. He stressed the fact that all citizens rights will be respected.
    I was angry at Takahashi bringing up all the dirt on the Liberals past. He made it clear his is a completely new kind of government. I feel very good about this. Ed

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    1. here are facts about couillard, mate.

      http://tinyurl.com/9cyz2rw

      http://tinyurl.com/bhtf5pl

      i don't think he's a great contender. the party is down because of corruption. it now needs a clean chap at the helm.

      impossible to believe him after you learn he arranged a few laws days before he left his minister job to a company that was to benefit from these changes and after you learn he's in business with arthur porter.

      sorry mate, couillard's not worthy.

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    2. It doesn't matter what Couillard is viewed. The PQ is seen as incompetent and will lose the next election whenever it is held. The Liberals will be in power once the PQ government falls.

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    3. You're probably right Jarry but from what I heard from Couillard today, he says we're all equal - which means to say what the PQ have been saying - our rights are protected and we don't have any problems. I don't know what world these politicians live in but it's sure not the one where I reside. The liberals will change nothing in the way minorities are treated in this province except, as I said, lend some stability to our real estate values during their term.

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      My God Cutie do you have to put a down spin on everything. Couillard did not say we are equal, he said that under his government we will be equal. he said French and English rights will be treated equally. Where do you get off telling people the Liberals will change nothing. You don't know what you're talking about because you get the message wrong and you say it anyway. He says it will be a complete change of government when he takes over. He is trying to tell us that he will make things right without having to come out and say it and lose the French votes. He repeated it several times. You are so anxious to hear bad things about the Liberals that you imagine they are saying things that they are not. If the PQ get in again it will be thanks to this kind of negative thinking. Please if you can't help don't try. Ed

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    5. You and I didn't read what he said the same way Ed and that is our right to disagree. All you keep thinking is that things will change under the liberals and I'm saying you are going to be disappointed again because he says that we are equal - in other words he sees nothing wrong. None of the potential leaders of the liberals will admit there is anything wrong - don't let your imagination run away with you. That's ridiculous that I'm anxious to hear bad things about the liberals - I told you I will vote for them if I have no other choice because we HAVE NO CHOICE but if we have a choice for a party that will commit to change things, I will vote for them - that is my right is it not?

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    6. Things won't change permanently for the better for minorities no matter who is in charge. Under the Liberals led by Couillard things probably will be better in terms of not having any new restrictions placed on the minorities and possible rollback to original bill 101. Hopefully the 4-5 years the Quebec Liberals are in power there are enough demographic changes from Montreal to the Ontario border that a partition movement can be taken seriously. Outside partition I do not see equality for the minorities in Quebec.

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    7. Me either Jarry - for sure we need some partition movement to ever get out of the stranglehold these maggots have on our rights and freedoms and I'm hoping that the Equality Party will make it part of their platform when they are able to get their paperwork in order. With at least 60% of us wanting to remain within Canada, we will be a force that will have to be listened to and let the 35% go to have their own country. Suitable and democratic way to get rid of those malcontents. Something has to be done as they are dragging us down with them everyday and we are being boycotted by more and more businesses worldwide plus our real estate is way down because no one wants to move here with the political instability that is ever present.

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    8. @cutie003

      "...plus our real estate is way down because no one wants to move here..."

      check page 5: http://tinyurl.com/aa3tk6d .

      steady increase in the last five years.

      why the lie, mate?

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  21. FROM ED
    You see gang the troll makes it clear that he is afraid of Couillard. That tells us Couillard must be the right one if the separatists are afraid of him. He says ALL rights will be respected and that starts them shaking in their boots. They see their warren blowing away with a fresh breeze. Ed

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    1. dude i'm just saying you should choose a leader that's clean. don't you agree with that?!?

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    2. Glass houses and stones and all...

      http://www.vigile.net/How-estate-was-built-on-public

      and that took all of 5 seconds to find. What else is out there?

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    3. @confusedinquebec

      how is pauline marois's house related to the need for the liberals to come up with a honest leader?

      hint: it isn't.

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    4. A clean politician in Quebec? That'll be the day, I'd settle for a party leader that wasn't contributing to the PQ until 2003. Hopefully he doesn't turn out to be a bum tenant, a drunk driver, a land grabber out of a 1950's noir film, a fraudster, corrupt or just plain incompetent....I'm not holding my breath, but then again it's Quebec where you vote for the party that stinks the least.

      With the PQ pushing for unneeded stronger language laws, unfocused cuts to healthcare and education, which will lead to huge deficits taken on by these institutions that will just have to be funded later down the line (but I guess it looks better on an end of term provincial government budget or something) and all the cushy patronage posts given out (AMT etc) there is quite the stench coming off of them.

      The only question is will one of the other parties clean up, or will Quebec have to go on febrezing the PQ while trying to pretend there isn't a distinct smell of garbage under all that fake flower scent?

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    5. For jmic - for the past 35-40 years we've had to vote for the best of the worst in every stupid provincial election. I do hope that there will soon be more of a choice for us - I would like to see a couple of federalist supporting parties spring up here. Let's hope for the best to come because there seems to be a lot of disgruntled federalists out there.

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  22. Received from CRITIQ and sounds like a great idea. If all we federalists on this blog take a minute of so, we can have an impact. Please follow up.
    Messages
    OQLF as volunteers take 1 minute and have some impact‏

    4:23 PM
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    CRITIQ
    To 'Gary D. Shapiro'
    Who wants to try and bring the OQLF to their knees? :):The time to have some fun with the OQLF has arrived. Below is the contact information for Access to Information for the OQLF. What would happen if 1,000 people all wrote and asked for the file concerning the above story? The OQLF would have to mail everyone the file if ALL requested that. Please copy/paste/forward this message and let us bring the OQLF to their knees. This is the first "shot". From now on we want information every day, and we want it in the time frame prescribed by the ACT re Access to Information. Every day everyone who despises what the OQLF stands for should ask of them "Please send me the complaints that were received by the OQLF on ___________." By law we are all entitled to receive the requested information so let us all make sure that the OQLF complies by the law of the land! :o)

    OFFICE QUÉBÉCOIS DE LA LANGUE
    FRANÇAISE
    Me Richard Baril
    Conseiller juridique
    Fax : 514 873-3993
    richard.baril@oqlf.gouv.qc.ca

    If "1,000" individuals did the above continually, would the end result be that all of the OQLF's inspectors would have to stay in the office and respond to Access to Info requests. It is time to find out! :o)






    CANADIAN RIGHTS IN QUEBEC

    P.O. Box 32513, 2445 Chemin Lucerne

    Mont-Royal, Quebec H3R 2K0

    Tel: 514-360-3236

    www.critiq.ca info@critiq.ca

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    1. Me wants access to the parrot-must-speak-French file. AtoI is the worst in Qc, not that the Federal Commissioner is so much better these days.

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    2. If you can find the date the complaint was supposedly laid, go ahead and ask. Would be a good laugh if nothing else. Each of us would only have to request info a couple of times a week, if we all participated, and it would drive them nuts. The only thing that might backfire is that they have to hire extra staff to keep up and we'd be paying for them too!

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    3. Good idea, Cutie. The only think to watch out is not to flood the agency with request for information on the same day by the same person. Agencies can deny request if a sole individual makes repeated request with the sole intent of disrupting the personal.

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    4. That's why I was suggesting that we each do it may a couple of days a week - CRITIQ is right - might keep the idiots off the street and out of everyone's hair. God what else can they think of to cause problems? They must lay awake nights to think of these things!

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    5. I don't know if the OLF will handle request in english? Guess, i will try tomorrow.

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    6. Interesting point Liam - I have to wonder the same thing.

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  23. While I do not venture out to Brossard, I visit Montreal Chinatown on regular basis, for a number of reasons. When I need to go back to my home country in Asia, my favorite travel agent is Vacances Sinorama. I am really amazed with the travel consultants there. They speak fluently - albeit accented - in at least four languages: English, French, Mandarin, Cantonese. While one may argue that Mandarin and Cantonese are two dialects of Chinese language, they are rather distinct and different.

    How many languages does a regular Separatist speak?

    As well, one of my favorite restaurant is Pho New York. I think it is the best pho (Vietnamese beef noodle soup) in Montreal. The servers there speak Vietnamese, English, French and at least one Chinese dialect. Why nobody ever covers that?

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    1. "How many languages does a regular Separatist speak?"

      well the regular separatist, after a few years in china, will speak french, english and chinese. one less than your chinese travel agent. so what's your point, troy?

      "The servers there speak Vietnamese, English, French and at least one Chinese dialect. Why nobody ever covers that?"

      you cover that fascinating subject troy! i'm with you, mate.

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    2. Troy, by asking the question, you answer it. A handful of separatists might be worldly but we all know (and no, "student", I will not provide you with documentation to that effect) that the vast majority are most definitely not.

      By the way, Phó New York used to be on the corner where Phó Vietnam is today, right? It was quite good. I went to the best phó restaurant in Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon), which is supposedly the best in Vietnam, which is supposedly the best in the world, and it was deeeeeee-licious!!!

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    3. @r.s

      "A handful of separatists might be worldly but we all know that the vast majority are most definitely not."

      "we" as in all dudes with the same prejudices, right?

      baseless crap.

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    4. @ student,

      "well the regular separatist, after a few years in china, will speak french, english and chinese."

      Highly unlikely. Their kind have lived in North America for several centuries and most of the separatist Quebecois cannot speak English, which is the majority language of the continent.

      Baseless crap = all of the drivel you've written on this blog.

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  24. Tabarnak. Que fait donc le OQLF? Il y a 1.3 milliards d'Elvis Wong qui vont ouvrir des salons de massage pour voler la job a nos filles pis si on ne peut pas avoir des option en Francais le Francais va disparaitre en Amerique du Nord. Sans oublier la sauce de soja dans les epiceries Chinoises, sans instructions en Francais on ne peut plus ouvrir la bouteille et on va mourir de faim.

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    1. Ask the two guys that own the restaurants that were targeted today by the language police how they feel about all this BS. The guy that owns the Italian restaurant says he's going to fight them but didn't catch what the guy who owns the fish and chips place is going to do. Even the language police are going to have a hard time explaining why the Italian restaurant has to change the name "pasta" to something in french. Then he commented that perhaps the francophones could trying speaking french correctly before they start correcting someone else. Good for a laugh but we PAY these people!

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    2. Le mot pasta met la population pure-laine en danger d'extinction en Amerique du Nord. Pis les mafieux sont venus apres nous, ils n'ont aucun droit ancestral icitte. C'est nous qui faisons les lois raciales icitte. Ostie de Charte Canadienne qui ne reconnait pas le droit des pure-laine d'eradiquer les autres parce nous on est les premiers venus.

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    3. Pourquoi parlez-vous de races lorsqu'il est question de langues?Nous ne voulons éradiquer personne.

      Saviez-vous qu'il existe des traitements pour la paranoïa?

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    4. @ Cutie

      No worries about the Italian guy, he’ll do just fine. Pasta, by any other name, will still PASTA right? Just like Costco by any other name ...and Old Navy, etc.. and so on and so on and so on!

      But I’m just wondering, will poopoo/PoPo/peepee, by any other name? See where I’m going with this?

      A preposterous Debt, an Economy with no pulse, no Healthcare to speak of, but hey, on the PQ priority list...PASTA! This time they're upset fusili reasons LOL!
      PASTA is not a French word, the sky is falling the sky is falling! Hahahahahah

      Can we be more proud of this government? Because of them, 'PASTA' is trending on Twitter. Even the kids are having a field day with this one. lol

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    5. The most ironic part is that the PQ had a spaghetti supper: http://kimcomeau.org/communique/9-juin-2012-souper-spaghetti-du-parti-quebecois-de-vaudreuil. Even if spaghetti isn't even a french meal. Aren't they suppose to be eating poutine.

      Soy Sauce is delicious by the way.

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    6. Calisse! La haute trahison s'est instalee au chez les mangeux de caviar du PQ maintenant. La poutine est trop grossiere pour leurs bouches fines maintenant? Pis en plus c'est l'ennemi de notre peuple qui nous apprends la trahison? Coudon, l'heure est grave! Mais que fait donc le reseaux des vigiles? Aux OQLF citoyens! Le PQ doit appeler les spagetti pates-multifil-longilongues, c'est le vrai nom que nos courreurs des bois utilisaient pour le vrai du vrai.

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    7. Mets ça dans ta pipe petit fûté:

      Speak white in manitoba effin bastard (sarcasme)

      http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/manitoba/2013/02/20/003-manitoba-plaque-controverse.shtml

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    8. The OQLF can be so ridiculous and useless... Hopefully someone somewhere in Canada will ban the word poutine from his restaurant. Hoping they get served their own medecine!

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    9. Les anglos sont tellement raffinés qu'ils vont banir les pâtes avant la poutine :)

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    10. Pizza margherita! Insalata caprese! Oh, the horror!!! Why not force the chic Buonanotte to be called "Bonne Nuit"? And add the descriptor "Restaurant", just in case poor, downtrodden Quebecers didn't know what it was. Besides, everyone knows Bill 101 is against English, not Italian!!!

      Franco-supremacists are out of control.

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    11. Just ridiculous but to point out again: No one in any other province in this country is attacked for speaking ANOTHER LANGUAGE except quebec you racist A--h-----!

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    12. @cutie003

      who was attacked for speaking another language cutie003? it's not clear what you are refering too here, mate.

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    13. Since "pasta" is verboten, then what about souvlaki? Shish taouk? Halal? Chow mein?

      These are all threats to the survival of the French language and culture in North America!!!

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  25. Les "angry" sont au top de leur agressivité et on ne fait que commencer le ménage.

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  26. Manitobans angered because of bilingual licence plate.

    Story in French

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    1. J'ai déjà mis le lien plus haut Guillaume.

      Deux langue officielles au canada?Vraiment?

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    2. Poor, pathetic people! Any crackpot can comment on the internet (as we all very well know here). Listen the whole report. It says that, among the various vanity plates that are available, one can get a licence plate that also says “Bienvenue”. That’s it! Manitoba is much more open than Quebec in this regard. Interesting to hear franco-Manitobans express themselves in the report too!

      This is further proof of separatist Radio-Canada’s bias… they only sought out a handful of opinions expressing their doubts without bothering to find one single approval, implying that all 1.2 million Manitobans are against poor, downtrodden Quebecers. Poor reporting indeed! Thanks for pointing out how even PEI offers French licence plates, also unlike poor, downtrodden Quebec with its minorities!

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    3. Radio-Canada Manitoba doesn't have a pro-separatist bias...maybe you can call it a pro-"preservation of French in Manitoba" agenda but it's not a pro-separatist bias since this issue has nothing to do with Quebec.

      Maybe they should have used more time (a few more seconds) to congratulate the government of Manitoba. However, it's also good that they pointed the ignorance of some people.

      Also, don't tell me that Manitoba is much more open than Quebec...
      Check this poll , out of 2000 voters, over 70% of them said that Manitoba shouldn't have any French on their licence plate.

      For fun here is some very ignorant comments :

      @AlisonMuise
      @metrowinnipeg you have got to be kidding me? what next brail for our licence plates?

      macopaco wrote : this will just open the door for every other group of some kind to demand their slogan on the licence plates-----poor taste of spending money. why is the govt trying to stir up problems.

      Guillaume : Would the Anglo-Quebecers liked to be called : "some other group"

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    4. How many Quebecers are against having English licence plates?
      Or even having vanity plates like most everyone else does?

      Perhaps you could also find some ignorant comments regarding this, just "for fun".

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    5. I never got the "they do X in the rest of Canada so we can do it here" argument. Demographics aside, you're basically saying oh look at the terrible thing people over there are doing, well that gives us the moral right to do something terrible to our own population. I mean it doesn't, two wrong don't make a right, maybe we should consider taking the high road and setting an example for the rest of the country and be as progressive as we often claim to be.

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    6. Not sure if you are talking about me, but if you are, well you're wrong. Nowhere in my comment did I used the treatment of Francophones in Manitoba to justify to one applied to Anglos in Quebec.

      All I did was exposing a situation and responding to the fact that Manitoba is supposedly "much more open" than Quebec in issues related to language.

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    7. There is one thing you do choose to ignore Guillaume. Unlike Quebec French is not restricted anymore by Law. The government of Manitoba despite this poll would not be able to think about getting rid of French services. In Quebec on the other hand despite bill 101 there is always a clamor and then laws passed to further restrict English. In both Manitoba as well as Ontario French services have been expanding and are being expanded Further.

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    8. The separatists will never accept the fact that they are the only province in this country that takes away the rights to a language whereby the other provinces keep trying to improve on their services to the other official language. Bunch of assbackwards thinkers that are keeping this province from being able to live and survive in North America. Their way of thinking is from the dark ages but they persist - they will wake up one day when the province collapses onto itself.

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    9. You didn't answer the question... does supposedly open-minded Quebec offer inclusive licence plates to all of its citizens (for example, saying *gasp* "Welcome") the way that Manitoba and even tiny PEI do? Or is Quebec completely non-inclusive and closed in upon itself, forbidding anything other than French and French only?

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  27. Here’s an interesting post made by a francophone blogger following the demonstration against Bill 14. It concerns remarks made by the Minister for the Charter of the French Language, Diane De Courcy, calling for “calm” and “moderation”. The original post is in French here and translated by me below. I can’t wait to hear our pet troll denigrate him as a “colon” and a “vendu”. Plus ridicule que ça et tu meurs ! LOL

    Diane De Courcy – a call for moderation
    February 19, 2013 F. Boiteau

    Following the demonstration against Bill 14 last Sunday (which I unfortunately missed) that was attended by about 200 people, the minister responsible for the Charter of the French language, Diane De Courcy, called for calm and moderation/restraint.

    According to the Journal de Montréal, some of the protesters had signs that linked her bill with segregation. Being one of the very first to have openly criticized this bill, I can only agree with this parallel.

    Here is what Article 2 of Bill 14 modifies to Article 1 of Bill 101 (changes are in bold for emphasis):

    “French is the official language of Quebec. It constitutes the foundation of the Quebec identity and of a distinct culture that is open to the world.

    As I mentioned in my previous post on this topic, there aren’t many ways to interpret such an article. According to Ms. De Courcy, a Quebecer is a francophone, end of story.

    Madame De Courcy, if you wish to make a call for restraint and moderation, you yourself ought to have done likewise when you wrote this bill. If anglophones and allophones who live and pay taxes in Quebec are not Quebecers, then what are they? You were the one who threw the first stone with this bill, which is a blatant example of segregation. Do you hold the same opinion as the longstanding pequiste, Pierre Curzi, who said almost openly to Gilles Proulx that "in a sovereign Quebec, it would be worthwhile to consider withdrawing the right to vote from anglophones"?

    “In an interview with Gilles Proulx, a pioneer in shock-talk radio, Curzi called the West Island “Ontario” and said that West Islanders would never accept a PQ proposal for Quebec citizenship prior to sovereignty. “We can’t alter that with a magic wand”, Curzi said. “If these people want to benefit, as long as we are a province, we can’t do any more. We can’t take away their right to vote because that is a right we cannot control given that we are still a province within the federation. Obviously, the day when we are a country, we will control citizenship, and it will have more teeth, if I can dare to say so.”

    I find it rather funny to see a minister of a government that is fundamentally xenophobic make a call for moderation.
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    What bothers me even more is that, both in the media as well as among the opposition parties, no one has criticized Article 2 of this bill. The CAQ is against changes to the bilingual status of certain cities while the Liberals as a whole are against any changes to Bill 101, yet neither has openly called out this section.

    Unless I am mistaken, no one other than myself has taken the time to look at this section of the bill and say “Hey! What’s written here is pretty serious!”

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    1. @durham

      i don't think the add-on means that anglophones are not quebeckers like you and boiteau do. i think it just means that anglo quebeckers live in a society that is distinct thanks to its french heritage. it's not xenophobic, mate.

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    2. “anglo quebeckers live in a society that is distinct thanks to its french heritage.”

      Thanks for that, Captain Obvious. This is why we continue to want to live here. What does this have to do with trying to eradicate English from Quebec?

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    3. Unfortunately Durham we have no politicians with balls in this province and the separatists run the total agenda. We keep sinking deeper and deeper into a Nazi lifestyle and not one of them stands up for what is right and just. We have a bunch of political elitists that, at the most, pretend they care about democracy but knuckle under to every sneaky and underhanded tactic they can think of to remove rights and freedoms from the minorities. What I wouldn't give to have just one of them tell the truth about what is going on here.

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    4. Read again, student. It mentions nowhere 'heritage'. It is clearly worded.

      "French is the official language of Quebec. It constitutes the foundation of the Quebec identity and of a distinct culture that is open to the world."

      "It" refers to French so the statement can be read as:

      "French constitutes the foundation of the Quebec identity and of a distinct culture that is open to the world."

      Thanks, R.S

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    5. @student:

      The original Article 1 of Bill 101 made that distinction. All it said is French is the official language of Québec, which is enough. No need to add anything to it. René Lévesque approved of the original Bill 101 as it was. Why change it, especially such a fundamental article?

      This new bill basically says that the FOUNDATION of Québec Identity is the French language. So if you don't speak French, you do not share that Identity, period.

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    6. "think of to remove rights and freedoms from the minorities"

      Vous ne faites pas partie d'une minorité peggy mais bien d'une majorité.

      N'oubliez pas : 350 000 000 vs 6.5 M

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    7. @ts

      dude when interpreting an expression, one is binded to use different words than the original expression. for example, r.s. wrongly interpreted the new clause by claiming it means anglophones are not considered quebeckers! if you are into taking on people who don't stick to original wording, i think he's a better traget than me.

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    8. Hey, Monsieur Boiteau ! I didn’t know you were a follower of this blog. Bienvenue !!! (heheh… just like Manitoba licence plates say, but which is forbidden in Quebec). I hope you don’t mind that I translated your blog post here on the fly. It was most interesting!

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    9. student, 'dude', are you having an off day?

      Let's try again. Here's a direct quote from Bill 14:


      2. Section 1 of the Charter is amended by adding the following paragraph at the end: “It constitutes the foundation of Québec’s identity and of a distinct culture that is open to the world.”

      Let's find Section 1 of the Charter. Here it is:

      "1. French is the official language of Québec."

      1977, c. 5, s. 1."

      So, according to Bill 14, you take “It constitutes the foundation of Québec’s identity and of a distinct culture that is open to the world.” and put it after "French is the official language of Québec." Guess what you get?

      "French is the official language of Québec. It constitutes the foundation of Québec’s identity and of a distinct culture that is open to the world.” and put it after "French is the official language of Québec." Voilà ! There is no reference of anything else in the paragraph.

      To recap, according to the amendment to the Charter of the French language, "French constitutes the foundation of Québec’s identity and of a distinct culture that is open to the world." It's as simple as that. Do you understand now or you need a drawing... mate?

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    10. “In an interview with Gilles Proulx, a pioneer in shock-talk radio, Curzi called the West Island “Ontario” and said that West Islanders would never accept a PQ proposal for Quebec citizenship prior to sovereignty. “We can’t alter that with a magic wand”, Curzi said. “If these people want to benefit, as long as we are a province, we can’t do any more. We can’t take away their right to vote because that is a right we cannot control given that we are still a province within the federation. Obviously, the day when we are a country, we will control citizenship, and it will have more teeth, if I can dare to say so.”

      It is statements such as these, that convince me more and more that Jarry Street, Cutie & Co. are the ones on the right track. Anything less than partition will never bring back any rights, and all those in power from the PQ, to Liberals and maybe CAQ one day, will not restore Rights and Freedoms to what they ought to be in the province. Bill 14 will go through and the government will not be brought down over it. The Libs and CAQ would never initiate such a bill themselves, but in light of the fact that the PQ have done it, they won’t condemn it either and will go along with it,...you just watch...I’d be willing to bet cash on it...and why?...Fundamentally, they support the nationalist stance, the name of the game is as follows:

      “We want ALL and AS MANY powers for Quebec as we can get our grubby hands on, so that essentially we can behave as an independent country after all. If admission is forbidden from the front door, we will bust through the back door”, too f...bad.

      This is how they have operated, more and more, and through the back door, they hope to get rid of us, the impediment to their dream of a so-called..nation. They are systematically accomplishing this with these brain-fart bills.

      “So basically... minorities.....suck it! Also, be aware that if we ever do become our own nation, and you think you have it bad now...wait...cause...you will practically be non-existent afterwards, and anyway, we’re seeing to that now.”

      There you have it Folks, I cannot put it more succinctly, this is what they say every single day and they have begun to say in a blatant overt fashion. Most frustrating of all, WE barely yell out OUTRAGE! We congregate on this blog, talk and talk and talk, but unless, we (the minorities) and anyone else not of that "Persuasion" are willing to put up A MAJORRRRRRRRR STINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!, really get organized, put our money where our mouth is...get some highly competent lawyers to go at these morons, they will not back off!

      How many people have actually bothered to read bill 101 in its entirety? Maybe that should be homework for us all!

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    11. Heheh... "Dude", I can't wait to see how our "mate" parses that one! :)

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    12. Bill 14 won’t pass because the PQ is a minority government and the Liberals and CAQ are against it and they will never let it pass. This is merely showboating by the PQ to placate their hardliners. Nevertheless, it is a preview to what is to be expected from an ethnocentric government such as theirs.

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    13. @ts

      "Do you understand now or you need a drawing... mate?"

      obviously i had understood that, mate. you are just copy pasting the law here.

      what i offered is a alternate interpretation to r.s's. a better one, really.

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    14. @anectote

      dude you use three quotes to support your stuff in your previous comment. one is from pierre curzi. what about the other two? are they real or are they a total fabrication of yours?

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    15. Yes R.S. I hope you're right but so far the CAQ have said they will not support ALL of Bill 14 (to be read some parts may be OK) - the liberals have stated they will not support it at all. We have to remember that the CAQ is still a separatist party so who knows what parts are OK with them. They are waiting to see the response they get from the public to make their final decision. They are all looking for votes for the next election - that's it, that's all they care about not basic things like the constitution or rights and freedoms. Terrible choice we have in this province. It would be nice to get back to left vs right instead of having to defend ourselves against on-going attacks against our language all the time.

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    16. @cutie003

      " It would be nice to get back to left vs right instead of having to defend ourselves against on-going attacks against our language all the time."

      then i suggest you vote yes next time you have the chance to do so. you will get left vs right the next day.

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    17. And you separatists p-----, you're damn rights and freedoms are protected up to the hilt in the ROC - it's only here, in this stinking province, that OUR rights and freedoms are trampled on by you racist bigots - when are you going to admit that it's makes you feel superior to everyone else and for no other reason? Face it - you are a bunch of fascists. You give a shit about no one other than yourselves and your wants and it's fuck everyone else. I usually try to watch my language but you people are nothing but a big cancerous tumour that we have to cut out of our civilized society - bring on a PARTITION PARTY. We must rid ourselves of these people everyone!

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    18. @R.S.

      I wish I were as confident as you. C'mon they're going after pasta...PASTA for c...sakes..AND they're running the joint!! I don't mean to over-dramatize, but I don't think it's all just window dressing. To you "marois is dishonest leader"...to me she's dangerously ambitious.

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    19. "...that OUR rights and freedoms are trampled on by you racist bigots..."

      your right to what, exactly, cutie003?

      "when are you going to admit that it's makes you feel superior to everyone else and for no other reason?"

      hum. i don't think that is ever going to happen cutie003. you should forget about it.

      "Face it - you are a bunch of fascists."

      no.

      "You give a shit about no one other than yourselves and your wants and it's fuck everyone else."

      false. and vulgar.

      " I usually try to watch my language..."

      why did you stop watching it cutie003?

      "...you people are nothing but a big cancerous tumour that we have to cut out of our civilized society (...). We must rid ourselves of these people everyone!"

      eeew. you are violent, mate.

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    20. "Et dire que vous n'auriez qu'à communiquer dans la langue de la majorité de la population où vous résidez."

      I do asshole I do, and I don't have a problem with that, it's that you want to shove it down my throat even when I'm in my private space and this is where I have a problem. GET THE F...OUTA MY PRIVATE SPACE...and my Pasta. LOL

      "Nous sommes loin des wagons à bestiaux...N'est-ce-pas mister parano?"
      That remains to be seen, not very flattery for those on your team...THEY'VE CALL WAR ON PASTA...WHO THE F...IS THE "PARONO" NOW?

      "Arrêtez de coutiser peggy,elle a passé l'âge de se reproduire...Dieu merci!"
      Cutie, he's hitting on you again LOL

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  28. FROM ED
    I have to say that I feel very good about recent dvelopements. The first is the fact that there were many francophones at the demonstration last week. It supports what I'm hearing from seven other different sources in other areas of Quebec. The French are waking up and opposing the PQ The small number of francos at the demonstration will bring others. it would be nice to have a blog for french somewhere between Vigile and us, where like minded federalist francos feel welcome. They would encourage others.
    Also Dr. Couillard has a strong following among Francophones
    and is almost certain o get the Liberals elected.
    Third, he says when he's in he will treat Engish rights 100% the same as French. I believe he has the courage to do it. If I'm right the quiet revolution will be over. We'll know in a month. Be patient my friends and think positive. We'll win. Ed

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  29. Félicitations, Québec, on permitting the OQLF to make you look absolutely ridiculous all over the world once again! :)

    from Louvain, Belgium

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    1. Pire que le massacre écologique de l'alberta,monsieur le Belge de Montréal Nord?

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  30. UN GARS BIEN SYMPATHIQUE DE CALGARYThursday, February 21, 2013 at 6:18:00 AM EST

    The language Gestapo hammers Montreal for putting up safety signs in english.... Are there now two safety standards? Do not advise anglos of safety issues but do for the french?
    http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/regional/montreal/201302/20/01-4623760-affiches-en-anglais-montreal-se-fait-taper-sur-les-doigts.php

    Ironic as it totally reminded me of what the Germans did in Alsace in WW2; switchback roads in the mountains there advised 40kph speed limit for "aryans" while vile juden had a 70 kph speed limit!!!!
    Two standards. Sounds like plain racism, discrimination and premeditated endangerment of life.
    ------------------------

    Things are getting tough for ma tante Pauline: 58% of quebekistanis disenfranchised with the PQ. Uhh huge surprise???
    http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/quebec-canada/politique-quebecoise/201302/20/01-4623770-linsatisfaction-en-hausse-pauline-marois-en-baisse.php

    BTW that article that said that Ontario and Alberta would default on their respective debts before quebec was heavily biased by L'Actualite magazine. I do agree that both quebec and ontario will or look like they would default at some point, but Alberta? Just to say that if Alberta defaults, watch out quebec. So here's a counter to the bias:
    http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/02/19/the-deadbeat-bunch-2/

    You will notice that in the graph, quebec is the only province that has no prediction for a potential default. That is because its debt/GDP ratio is the highest in the country, which is similar to that of Ontario. If Ontario has 80% chances of defaulting, I seriously wonder about the perils of living there... Like $7 daycare and assurance-medicaments will actually prevent quebekistan from defaulting ever!!!

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    1. Ne jamais se fier au sondages (hyper biaisés) émis par La Presse,tu savais pas ça ti-gars de "call Gary" ?

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    2. "The language Gestapo hammers Montreal for putting up safety signs in english.... Are there now two safety standards?"

      Non,pas deux standards de sécurité mais une langue officielle.Pas vite vite le ti-gars.

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    3. Les anglos ne sont pas bilingues et même trilingues?

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    4. "mais une langue officielle."

      So, what? It does mean this is the only language ALLOWED to speak, read and listen to. That's called totalitarism. It's not working and will never work.
      You battle's lost, completely lost, totally lost. Quebec is (unfortunalely)a part of Canada and in Canada there are 2 official languages: English AND French.
      In Montreal we speak English and French. Don't like it, S.R.? Pack your lugguage, renounce the Canadian citinzenship and go to France or Belgium (I doubt they will like you or even understand your joual or mentality).
      I repeat: OFFICIAL does not mean the ONLY language ALLOWED to speak.

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    5. @un gars

      very bad comment, mate. here's why:

      "The language Gestapo..."

      first you hit the godwin point at your third word. must be close to a record. you should let go that argument as it is inappropriate.

      "Do not advise anglos of safety issues but do for the french?"

      then you distort reality by saying oqlf prevented safety signs to be posted in english when it's actually marketing posters. distorting reality is bad, mate. you should avoid that as well.

      "BTW that article that said that Ontario and Alberta would default on their respective debts before quebec was heavily biased by L'Actualite magazine."

      here you get quite pityful. you try to discredit an article by saying it is biased by l'actualité, without explaining how, when the article was actually published by les affaires.

      you keep on pushing absurdity's limits by posting another article from macleans that says the exact same thing: according to laurier-macdonald institute ontario and alberta have a greater risk of defaulting then quebec. are the sources you rely on biased as well, buddy?

      "You will notice that in the graph, quebec is the only province..."

      what graph? there is no graph, mate.

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    6. Deudeu, if they need to keep saying that French is the only official language in Quebec even after 35 years of Bill 101, that just goes to show how much it's not true.

      It's merely wishful thinking... combined with a dash of ethnic cleansing.

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    7. @DEWDEW

      "(I doubt they will like you or even understand your joual or mentality)."
      @DEWDEW

      Est-ce l'image que votre minorité si respectueuse a des Québécois?Qui devrait déposer ses bagages ailleurs qu'au Québec?Vous avez 9 provinces sur 10 où vous n'aurez pas à subir notre accent ou notre mentalité.Seriez-vous maso par hasard petit angryphone de merde?
      Nous sommes un des deux peuples fondateurs de ce pays,trou du cul.

      Parlant de joual avez-vous déjà écouter un chinois s'exprimant en globish?

      Hahahahaha!

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    8. "Deudeu, if they need to keep saying that French is the only official language in Quebec even after 35 years of Bill 101, that just goes to show how much it's not true.

      It's merely wishful thinking... combined with a dash of ethnic cleansing"

      I know, they have been keeping on reciting the same drivel for over 35 years. It's like reciting a prayer: before they used to pray, now they are used to repeating the same political slogan until a form of delirium kicks in. It's another way of deluding themselves by going into a political trance with a magic formula "One official language", repeated over and over, over and over...

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    9. Que pensez-vous de l'expression magique "canada bilingue" ?

      Croyez-vous qu'à force de le répéter,il le deviendra?

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    10. The best example of how certain Francophones are;

      http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/pasta-on-montreal-menu-cooks-up-controversy-with-language-watchdog-1.1164367

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  31. This is the link for the interview with Dr. Couillard on CTV News Montreal yesterday:
    http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.1164521
    All of you can listen and see if you think he intends to make any changes to the bills which remove rights and freedoms from the citizens of quebec.

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  32. Anyone who can help out at the civil rights event on 28th Feb please e-mail Gary - thank you:

    February 28th Event‏

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    Gary D. Shapiro
    To Gary D. Shapiro
    We will have professional security present at the event, however 4 men in dark suits would be nice to have in addition.

    Anyone know of interested men?

    They would be required for 5:00 pm







    CANADIAN RIGHTS IN QUEBEC

    P.O. Box 32513, 2445 Chemin Lucerne

    Mont-Royal, Quebec H3R 2K0

    Tel: 514-360-3236

    www.critiq.ca info@critiq.ca

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  33. Birds of a feather fly together

    The Floribec(White French Canadian Roman Catholics from Quebec) who go down to Florida. They live and breath in French, have their own radio ,tv , a French newspaper “le soleil de la Florida”, stores that serve them in French and they don’t have to speak American or Spanish Also French entertainment live, imported from Montreal. For more info
    http://www.ameriquefrancaise.org/en/article606/Floribec_:_Quebec_in_the_Tropics.html
    Why should the Chinese or any group that emigrates be different.

    Oh! I forgot, the White French Canadian Roman Catholics from Quebec are distinct. I am sorry, that was not called for but how do we address all those “PASTA CHASERS”

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    1. They have to stop being treated like they're special - it hasn't worked the way we hoped so let's just stop it now - we are creating an even bigger monster by pampering these spoiled little brats. Let's cut them loose to go their own way and save ourselves the aggravation and money that we keep throwing into the pit that has become sewage.

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    2. "it hasn't worked the way we hoped so let's just stop it now"

      Mais comment allez-vous procéder peggy?Voilà la question.

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    3. Didn't you know? It's OK for franco-Quebecers to want to live in their own culture but not for anyone else. Get with the program!

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    4. Didn't Nazi Germany feel the same about their race? What is the difference if any?

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    5. Une autre bouffée de chaleur peg?

      MDR!

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    6. This is Nazi Germany my dear, fast forward 70yrs. What's that expression: When you don't learn from History....? I wonder if our PM in his little glass house in Ottawa is waiting for 'this version' of the SS to stick us "the undesirables" in train cars to no man's land before he Gets a Pair and does something about it.

      Nazis make Canada look bad don't they?

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    7. Et dire que vous n'auriez qu'à communiquer dans la langue de la majorité de la population où vous résidez.

      Nous sommes loin des wagons à bestiaux...N'est-ce-pas mister parano?

      Arrêtez de coutiser peggy,elle a passé l'âge de se reproduire...Dieu merci!

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    8. And here we go with Godwin’s Law… that didn’t take very long at all!

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    9. AnceTOTE; Did you watch the interview with Couillard on the link that I posted up above? You watch it and tell me please if think the liberals have any intention to support the minorities if they come to office. Thank you. Ed and I differ on exactly what he's saying.

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    10. @Cutie

      I did not and I don't have to,(whispering in Cutie's ear), I don't expect much, basically I'm expecting nothing. On the upside, no expectations, no disappointments.
      Love youuuuu ED...(mmm...u think he's made at me?) lol

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  34. @ RC You brought this to my attention “ I was hurting the cause” and now “get with the program”. What is the “CAUSE” and “PROGRAM”. Please help me understand, what am I missing. I am willing to learn.
    By the way what is a “franco-Quebecer”? Is that anyone born in Quebec and speaks French.
    I was very specific, “ White French Canadian Roman Catholics from Quebec” You are aware that there are “White French Canadian Protestants” that had no choice and sent their children to an English Protestant school. They learned to speak French and English, these children are Franco or Anglo. Enlighten me please.

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    1. Those comments were intended in jest. However, since it appears that you require a literal translation, I will try my best to answer your question. I should warn you that it does involve the concept of sarcasm, though, which appears to be beyond your purview.

      “The cause” refers to defending the right for English-speaking Quebecers to use English in public in Quebec.

      “The program” is a reference to efforts to exterminate the use of any English in public in Quebec.

      A “franco-Quebecer” is anyone living Quebec who primarily identifies as being French-speaking. Obviously, there are a great number of Quebecers who speak French yet don’t identify as being primarily French-speakers.

      And finally, yes, I am very well aware that there are many white French Canadian Protestants. The whole notion of anglophone/francophone/allophone is a very murky subject since there are so many people speak two, three or more languages…

      I hope this enlightens you.

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