Friday, August 17, 2012

Pauline Marois- A Clear and Present Danger

Back in 1977, when the then PQ government introduced Bill 101, a law designed to restrict English rights, some anglo commentators were ridiculed for wondering out loud, that if a government could restrict our language, what is to stop it from restricting our religion?

Welcome to Pauline Marois' world.

I want to preface this blog piece by saying that I've lived my entire life in Quebec as an Anglophone, working professionally for almost forty years in a French milieu and have never felt an ounce of bigotry or discrimination, but I do admit that I am not a visible minority.

At any rate I remain a fan and admirer of Quebec society, warts and all.

In fact readers, the very first time I heard a 'racist' comment was on a business trip to Edmonton, when I was just twenty years old and where my host asked me how it felt to be an Anglo in that Goddamned 'FRENCHIE" province.
....YIKES!!

With all the separatist rhetoric over the years, I never felt in danger or threatened, even with the election of the PQ led by Rene Levesque way back when.

In fact all the leaders of the PQ until now were fairly decent chaps who based their sovereignty aspirations on respect for all citizens and the belief that an independent Quebec would be inclusive.

Yes, that even includes Jacques Parizeau, whose injudicious remarks on that fateful referendum night sealed his fate as a leader.
And let us not forget that he did the honourable thing and resigned.

I know I'll catch a lot of flack for this, but Parizeau was not the racist he is made out to be, his personal life and political record tells a different story and readers, who of us, in a moment of EXTREME disappointment hasn't said something we regret, something that we didn't really believe.

But Pauline Marois is different.
It isn't because she is a woman, it is because she is everything all the previous leaders of the PQ were not.

I can think of many words to describe her, but if I had to choose one, it is this:

"INDECENT"

Pauline Marois is the nastiest piece of work that ever led a Quebec political party, save Maurice Duplessis.
 
She is cruel megalomaniac, insensitive, power-hungry and ruthless.

Committed to separatism, she will use any and all means to achieve statehood, even if it means bankrupting Quebecers or destroying any semblance of a functioning society.
And yes, she abhors Anglos and Ethnics with the passion of the zealot class.

Worst of all, she is an idiot, who is out of touch with reality, who lived her entire professional life closeted in a world with like-minded fools.

Marois finds herself in a peculiar position, verging on a majority government carrying only her traditional separatist base, a situation that will allow her to win without giving a hoot or a holler for the two-thirds of Quebecers who will reject her and the PQ on election day.

With this incredible stroke of luck, Marois can play to this separatist minority, no pandering necessary to those other pesky taxpayers that finance this province.

And so Marois is happy to reveal her true self. Her campaign, only two weeks old, is a frightening overture to the horror show that is to come under a PQ government.

What are Madame Marois plans?

First of course, a beefing up of Bill 101, an act of faith which will serve to feed the insatiable appetite of vengeance and hatred of the English, a fundamental characteristic that drives language militants.
After all is said and done, Montreal will remain English and therein lies the rub. Students refused entry to English cegeps will make other arrangements.
What will the government do when they still choose to assimilate into the English community?

With Bill 101 out of the way, Marois has promised a Bill making official state secularism the law of the land.

The devil is in the details and already the PQ is at odds with itself as to how to go forward.
The banning of 'ostentatious' religious articles by public and para-public employees is unclear and obviously ill-thought out.
When asked by a reporter if a small Jewish skullcap is 'ostentatious' a PQ candidate said it was not, only to excuse himself later after having been corrected by the Marois clan.
Apparently, it is now official PQ policy that no matter how small, a kippah is always offensive.

Now there aren't many Sikhs, or orthodox Jews working at the license bureau, in fact I'll venture to say that the only people affected by this assault, will be the few Muslim women who wear hijabs, a headscarf, and who do work at the license bureau and many other government offices. These women are the true target of the law, as they are thoroughly loathed by PQers for wearing an article of faith which in the view of secular militants is an oppressive symbol of male dominance.

But hold on there!
What about a doctor at the Jewish General Hospital, where I have seen a few wear small kippahs.
As para-public employees, whose salary is paid for by the government, will they be included in the ban as well?
It seems a little strange to ban a skullcap in the Jewish General Hospital and I'm sure it will make for great worldwide press. I will let readers speculate as to what sarcastic headline would grace the Drudge Report.
And what about Parliament or city council, I know of one Montreal councillor who does wear a kippah to City Hall.

While the new law will supposedly ban ostentatious religious symbols, it will be silent on cultural symbols and so while a town councillor won't be allowed to enter City Hall wearing a kippah, he would be entitled to wear a Mexican sombrero or a Mickey Mouse hat on top of his head to cover up the affront to Quebec sensibilities.

What about those pesky symbols of Christianity, including the crucifix over the chair of the Speaker of the House of the National Assembly, Quebec's Parliament?

Marois dipsy-doodled around this one rather neatly, telling everyone with a straight face, that the crucifix must stay because it is part of our Quebec heritage!

A PQ candidate, Djemila Benhabib, a Muslim who is fiercly secular, took issue with the leader, saying that although it is PQ policy for the crucifix to stay, she would like to re-visit the issue within caucus.
She too was quickly called to order by Marois and forced to apologize for her remark.

The issue of secularism hit a nerve with the ever controversial and eminently quotable mayor of  Saguenay Jean Tremblay, who raged at Ms. Benhabib for attacking Quebec values, calling her a foreigner with an unpronounceable name, the best racist barb of the campaign so far! Link
Asked if he was against the proposed secularism law, the good mayor said that he had no problem with it, because it was only half discriminatory, against the half that isn't Christian!
Well-said Mr. Mayor!

The inherent problem with the law, other than the fact that it cannot survive the most basic constitutional challenge, is that it will set a dangerous undertone of intolerance.

If the Hijad is banned at the licence bureau, how long before problems occur in the workplace or on the street, where secular fanatics will attack the religiously observant.
I myself witnessed an incident in a Canadian Tire store where a female francophone senior citizen berated a cashier for wearing the hated 'symbol of oppression," to the point of making the young girl cry.

I promise you that if this law passes, it will be the most divisive law ever enacted in Quebec.

As for Quebec's debt problem, Marois doesn't see things the same way as most economists, her philosophy seems to be that as long as you can borrow, there is no problem.

In a radio interview, when a reluctant Marois was pushed to describe PQ policy towards the provincial debt, she said that lowering the debt would be impracticable.

In fact, she actually promised that a PQ government would INCREASE THE DEBT! (I'm not making this up)  Listen to the interview in French

(By the way, the projected deficit for Quebec set in this year's budget, is two billion dollars.
Two months into this fiscal year and Quebec is ALREADY $1.9 billion in the hole.)

Maybe she should watch this video....



See Quebec's debt grow in real time HERE

As for preparing the ground for sovereignty, Marois has said that she intends on making unreasonable and loud demands on Ottawa, demands that will raise federal/provincial tensions to new levels.
Her twisted logic being, that when Ottawa rejects these unreasonable requests, Quebecers will be insulted and vote for sovereignty.
How is that for a strategy?

We're not even at the halfway point in the election campaign and already we've been seeing la vrai nature de Pauline Marois.
It is a frightening spectre of hate, incompetence and political insanity.

A Pauline Marois PQ government will de-stabilize the province economically and politically. 
She has promised to wage war on the English, Ethnics and religiously observant. 
She has promised to transfer more wealth from those who earn it to those who consume without a commensurate contribution.
She has committed to drive Quebec further into debt.

Pauline Marois, like Emperor Nero will play the sovereignty fiddle while the province burns to the ground.

And who knows if this slash and burn policy isn't just part of a plan to advance her ultimate dream.
Perhaps she is ready to destroy Quebec society so that sovereignty will become a viable option to a frustrated, downtrodden and desperate people in a province brought to financial and social ruin.

It can happen.

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  1. I was angry when France did the same thing, and I'm angry now. I may be an atheist but what people can or cannot wear is an assault on liberty of religion, liberty of expression, and freedom in general.

    We see the result in France - the immigrants rioting every few years, violence in the streets, cars on fire, etc... Is that what the PQuistes want in Quebec? Seriously...

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    1. Absolument aucun rapport avec les signes religieux.Les actes de violence sont reliées essentiellement aux conditions économiques et sociales de certains groupes (en majorité d'Afrique du Nord) vivants majoritairement dans les banlieues Parisiennes.

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    2. France (or was it Switzerland?) tried to ban burkas in public space. You may think what you want about the practice of face veil (I'm against it, culturally it's a very foreign concept to me), but this particular intrusion on the rights of others is a much more dangerous phenomenon. It's also interesting how statism/etatism can become a religion itself, and how secular fanatics sometimes resemble religious fanatics. In this clip Dr. Noam Chomsky addresses the issue of what he astutely terms "state religion" (starts at 2:14)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt9QCAUPPeY

      However, I do not mind the intrusion by the Cologne court 2 months ago, since it was against an extreme type of religious practice. The distinction here is a move to protect the right of a child, to prevent physical harm, and to proceed with no invocation or glorification of "secularism", as opposed to ideological state fanaticism and idolization of secularism in the former case ("govt office is a sacred state ground, so we can't soil it with religious symbolism of its employees").

      http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/06/29/german-court-bans-male-circumcision/

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    3. Adski,essayez d'entrer dans une banque avec le visage masqué.

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/04/philadelphia-police-hunt-niqab-wearing-bank-robbers.html

      Autre chose Adski,êtes-vous pour l'égalité entre les hommes et les femmes.

      Il y a des choses qu'une société dites civilisée ne peut laisser passer.

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    4. SR, none of this is easy. The thing is very complicated. Life is only easy and simple in the mind of JF Lisee, who has a simple solution for everything.

      The issue here, as in every other case, is that of proportion and intention. The proportion is where the line should be drawn, what should be the criteria for interference with religious practice. A man entering a bank with a face covered is one thing. A woman walking down the street with a veil on her face is another. So, banning a harmless religious practice (just because we don't like it, or because it competes with and dilutes loyalty to the other system of belief - namely the cannons of l'Etat Quebecois) is different from banning a quasi-surgical procedure. The criterion where I draw the line is physical integrity and assault on it. You draw the line where there is something culturally foreign to you so you're against it, and of course you invent excuses to justify it (it's not that you find the veil uncomfortable for your eyes, it's that you are for the "equality of men and women"...how chivalrous of you)

      As for the intention, what was the intention of the Cologne court, and what is the intention of the state (the PQ)? I believe that the German court acted in the interest of children (and nothing beyond that). In the latter case, I think the intention is different. Despite the platitudes about "women's rights", "equality", "laicite", the intention is to get rid of ideological competition and assure loyalty to only one entity - the state and the ruling party and elite. And no, I do not have a proof (none of the pequistes will ever admit it for obvious reasons), but I have historical knowledge, political knowledge, humanistic knowledge, and a little healthy skepticism which I would prescribe to all true believers of the PQ fold.

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    5. "A man entering a bank with a face covered is one thing. A woman walking down the street with a veil on her face is another."

      L'homme vêtu d'un niqab a pu entrer dans la banque justement parce que aucune loi n'interdit le port de ce vêtement dans les endroits publiques.

      Mettez-vous à la place d'un employé de cette banque lorsqu'il reverra une cliente entrer vêtue de la sorte,surtout si il a été menacé avec une arme.

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    6. Désolé S.R., je suis plutôt d'accord avec Adski.

      C'est une chose d'être contre l'excision des jeunes filles, et peut-être même du port du burka.

      Mais cette loi empêcherait les juifs de porter leurs chapeaux, les sikhs de porter leurs turbans, les musulmanes de porter le hijab. Quand on intervient dans la vie privée des gens et on leur dit quels vêtements porter, c'est une atteinte à la liberté d'expression tout autant que forcer les gens a "speak white".

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    7. ...et des jeunes garçons...just to be perfectly clear.

      As for "speak white" and say turbans, it's a good comparison. Yes, one is language and one is clothes, but both are part of culture. So the comparison is justified.

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    8. We would usually refer to the procedure done on boys as "circoncision" instead of "excision". They are, after all, quite different in scope.

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    9. Oh, j'aurais dû ajouter : il est vrai que plusieurs musulmanes n'ont pas le libre-choix de porter ou non le voil, car elles vivent dans des familles conservatrices et traditionelles où il y aurait des conséquences à se comporter de façon plus occidentale. Dans ce cas-là, je peux voir l'argument selon lequel ça pourrait être bienveillant d'interdire le voile. On pourrait citer le bonhomme de Montréal qui a tué ses trois filles pour, entre autres, avoir refusées de porter le hijab, avoir eu des chums, et s'être comportées de façon générale en occidentales.

      Toutefois je ne partage pas l'avis que bannir les hijabs est la solution. Tout ce qu'on peut faire, c'est être aceuillants et tolérants tout en restant ferme sur le droit des femmes de vivre comme bon leur semble - et les droits et la libertés, ça doit être autant permissible que possible. Ou vas-t-on dire à nos immigrants qu'ils ne sont libres que s'ils ne se conduisent exactement comme nous?

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    10. Ce serait un juste retour d'ascenseur car dans plusieurs pays musulmans,même les touristes(femmes) occidentaux sont à un pas de se faire lapider si ils exposent un peu trop de peau.

      Parlez-moi d'ouverture

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    11. Si l'on se rabaisse à leur niveau, on admet que l'on est pas différent ou mieux que les pays musulmans.

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    12. Petite question S.R -- quels pays as-tu déjà visité?

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    13. Un tour presque complet de l'Europe et une bonne trentaine d'États américains...Pourquoi cette question?

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    14. Harvey Dent has proven SR to be a liarFriday, August 17, 2012 at 5:04:00 PM EDT

      Honnêtement, je ne crois pas ta réponse S.R. Voyager autant que ça et quand même retenir ton niveau de mépris envers "les autres" c'est pas mal incongru.

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    15. Je suis à des milliers de kilomètre du mépris.J'ai simplement appris à travers mes expériences et mes rencontres,que mon identité était très vulnérable au sein du canada et qu'il fallait se méfier de certaines politiques,de certains individus et de comportements à risques pour ma fragile culture.

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    16. Fragile culture is right. If it cannot survive on its own, you should not expect to artificially prop it up by discriminating against others. A culture that requires that type of conduct is not going to survive in the long term.

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    17. @John Crook

      Essayons tout de même :)

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    18. Please, a swing around Europe and the States is FAR from having travelled a lot and having seen the world. Even in Saudi Arabia, Western women may be required to wear the veil but are not one step from being stoned… to even think such a thing, S.R obviously has the mentality of a Hérouxville resident. For anyone who has genuinely travelled the world and really knows about disappearing cultures, it is utter nonsense to claim that French-Canadian culture is fragile and on the cusp of vanishing. Although, for the sake of argument, if it really were such a delicate flower (which it is not), then why shouldn’t we let nature take its course?

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    19. It is a fragile culture because Quebec has denied parents and students the right to chose for themselves the language of instruction. If that right existed, francophones would flock to English schools.If you want to hold a referendum, hold it on the language of instruction by allowing freedom of choice.

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    20. Even though Quebec has indeed denied (francophone) parents and students the right to choose for themselves the language of instruction they wish to receive, this is not in and of itself the reason why Quebec’s culture may or may not be fragile. Claiming that, given the right, francophones would all suddenly flock to English schools is a fanciful exaggeration. The denial of choice is definitely a symptom of paranoia about disappearing from North America, though, however misguided that may be.

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    21. To be fair, a "swing around Europe and the USA" is more than most people do in their entire lives.

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    22. To be fair, so is going to Cuba for a one-week all-inclusive holiday surrounded by a planeload of Quebecers. What's your point?

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    23. I lean towards Harvey on this one... S.R. is too stupid to be well-traveled.

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    24. That he has some claim to being well-travelled if he's actually been to most european countries/american states?

      Of course that depends if "Driving through Nebraska" counts as having "visited" a place.

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    25. Fragile culture is right. If it cannot survive on its own, you should not expect to artificially prop it up by discriminating against others. A culture that requires that type of conduct is not going to survive in the long term.

      I'm increasingly finding myself drawn to this way of thinking.

      J'ai simplement appris à travers mes expériences et mes rencontres,que mon identité était très vulnérable au sein du canada et qu'il fallait se méfier de certaines politiques,de certains individus et de comportements à risques pour ma fragile culture.

      En quoi ton identité diffère-t-elle de toutes les autres identités hébergées dans ce vaste pays? Quelles sont les politiques qui mettent à risque ta fragile culture? Qui sont les individus et les comportements qui t'empêchent de continuer à exister? Et qu'est-ce qui fait que "culture" ne mérite pas de connaitre elle aussi une éventuelle extinction, comme toutes les autres de l'histoire, d'ailleurs?

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    26. @Yannick: Well, my point is that there are tourists and then there are travellers. Tourists are interested in having a vacation; travellers are interested in learning about the people and places they visit and, hopefully, broadening their minds at the same time. I have never known a traveller who comes back home and tells himself: “You know what? Thanks to my travel experiences, I think I’m going to become an internet troll.”

      In London, there are many travel agents who will provide you with a once-in-a-lifetime adventure travelling overland across the Sahara from Tangier to Cape Town via Nairobi. Travellers can easily spend a year exploring the hundreds of cultures and languages of Uttar Pradesh, Karnakata and Tamil Nadu. Some will follow the Silk Road through Urumqi and across the Khyber Pass or visit the extraordinarily friendly people of Iran. They will have encountered a whole variety of cultures travelling on the Trans-Siberian from Vladivostok to Moscow. They will discover that the ruins of Angkor Wat in Cambodia are even more impressive than the pyramids of Egypt (and will be humbled by the number of young men missing an arm or a leg, or an arm and a leg as a result of the land mines leftover from the Vietnam War). Travellers learn why it’s absolutely incorrect to think that orange-robed Buddhist monks who collect alms in Bangkok or Vientiane or Luang Prabang are “begging”. Others may have volunteered as kibbutzniks and learned about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict from a first-hand perspective.Tourists don’t bother meeting locals on the daily paseo in Mérida, Quito or La Paz, nor do they bother discovering the Opera House that was built in Manaus, in the middle of Amazonas in Brazil. The point is that there is an absolutely HUGE world out there to be discovered and hopping on a train from Paris to Venice or on a plane from New York to L.A. is not exactly a challenging experience, nor is it especially mind-broadening. And there is no chance in hell that a small-minded nincompoop like S.R, who is totally unable to disagree respectfully with his adversaries, could remotely be considered to be “well-travelled”.

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    27. @The Cat : Fair enough, I see your point. But the number of people who have a year to piss away traveling the world... well, let's just say I've never met any.

      I wish I could afford it, either in time or money, for sure.

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    28. “Piss away”? Wow, that reveals a lot about you. It’s all a matter of priorities. Some people would prefer to have a fancy chesterfield (“sofa” or “couch” for non-Quebecers) in their living rooms; others would prefer to spend the same amount of money to discover the world for a while.

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    29. Le chat,que savez-vous exactement de la profession que j'exerce et de la qualité des relations que j'ai eu avec les habitants des différents endroits que je visité?Je ne crois pas que vous soyez un modèle à suivre en ce qui a trait aux activités "trollesques" sur les blogues.Aussi,vous me paraissez fort doué dans l'art du procès d'intention.

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    1. I'm sad that you removed your comment, Cat. It was very insightful.

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    2. Well, I’m debating the value of participating in this blog’s comments. What I had written was:


      I can’t believe I’m actually saying this but there are people who seriously think Pauline “Nero” Marois and the PQ are not committed enough to separatism and thus… hello, Option Nationale and Québec Solidaire! She may well be out of touch with reality… but an idiot? I detest even looking at her face but I don’t think she got to where she is by being an idiot. That’s a little harsh.

      Does winning a majority by pandering to the traditional base remind you of anyone else? Stephen Harper doesn’t give a hoot or holler about the majority that didn’t vote for him either. Those two supposed polar opposites have more in common than either would like to admit.

      In my riding, the PQ leap-frogged ahead of the PLQ today, per 308. All those people who are voting for the distant-third CAQ and smaller parties in my riding really ARE voting in the PQ, as Charest annoyingly keeps reminding us, and actually giving this woman free rein with her destructive agenda.

      It’s so hypocritical to keep the crucifix in the National Assembly on “cultural” grounds; it makes me vomit in my mouth a little whenever I hear this. That thing never should have been there in the first place and the sooner it’s gone, the better. As for wearing an “ostentatious” crucifix, will the PQ now also have the Crucifix Cops measuring sizes as the Tongue Troopers do with English lettering?


      Also, there’s already a YouTube video mocking Tremblay’s comment about his not being able to pronounce Djemila Benhabib’s name.

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    3. Well I'm always looking forward to read your comments Cat.

      Tremblay's such an idiot - I know about him mostly from watching episodes of Infoman, but the man never seems to give up sounding like a fool.

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    4. Cat, my choice of words for the Neanderthal PQ leader is cunning. She has been in politics for a long time, so she has learned how to balance on the ropes. Her agenda is radical, she hates everyone and everything that is not of her ilk, and she's doing what politicians do to survive: Play politics.

      Re the crucifix: It'll take another generation for the crucifix to come down. The Church still echoes in the craniums of those born into the pre-Quiet Revolution era and there are certain things in old minds that still resonate: The crucifix, tortières, bière Laurentide, the Habs and perhaps Jos Louis. In another generation, the crucifix may leave its place over the speaker's chair. The torch will be passed on and tortières, the Habs and beer will surely last. The rest? Only time will tell.

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  3. Intolerance exists in every person, everywhere it's a part of being human.

    Good manners may be trained into us by loving parents.

    What did Marios' parents do to make her vile on so many subjects?

    Marios has a big pair of balls to blacken her family name in history with her strange vision for the province.

    If you want to shut her down go after her parents. Have they been interviewed?

    If you grew up in an english suburb that would explain you being insulated from the violence and bigotry.

    Grew up in Pierrefonds back in the 60's and 70's it was Anglos, Protestant's and French, Catholics.

    Everyday was a a battle to get to school gangs of french kids beating up english kids and versi vicey each taking turns for power.

    I saw the dad's pat the kids on the head for beating the shit out of an english kid, That was a common site.

    Ignorant parents encouraged this violence and bigotry, now those punks have grown up.

    E-Town is full of racists it's common knowledge there are no hate crimes so it's all good.

    In the rest of Canada people are FREE to be intolerant, in the event a person treats a person in a bigoted or verbally violent manner regarding racial or cultural identity they are charged.

    Quebec: people like Marios can do and say all manner of horrible things and be praised as revolutionary with confidence that they have the support of the system and the other punks in her gang.



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  4. I told them so...I told them so...I told them so! I told my late parents when this shit all started in the mid-1970s it was eventually going to become Nazi Germany in Quebec! That generation refused to believe me, I guess in part because they figured they would be dead it the shit hit the fan. That IS exactly what has happened. You can smell the stench blowing into Mississauga!

    If left unchecked, that bitch is going to watch Quebec crash and burn, but who cares as long as SHE gets the loot?

    GensDenis can bitch at me all he wants until he's Quebec flag blue in the face, but with almost 40 years of complacency in the minority communities, the messy brown stench is on the fan and blowing a stinky mess in its wake!

    Actually, the LAST time I looked at the debt clock, the number stood at about $248 billion. Now it's at $252 billion and counting. If the projected deficit for the current fiscal year is just $2 billion, it's already double that in just a few months; furthermore, it doesn't include Quebec's share to be tagged on should the crash test dummies, a.k.a. the Quebec voters vote in the PQ.

    Fine. Vote the bitch in. Bring her on! Let her bring it on! I dare her to provoke the rest of Canada. I dare her to let the debt run free. They'll run up the list of most indebted jurisdictions worldwide. Right now, too, they don't print their own money, so they'll HAVE to separate to have their own monetary policy.

    I agree with Reed Scowen: Canada can do better economically without the $8 billion in equalization payments we pay to Quebec. How would a dismally indebted jurisdiction like Quebec hurt with the loss of $8 billion per year?

    Oh, and lest we forget the mass exodus during the 70s of the minorities, those who make up 20% of the population, but 40% of the Quebec tax base at this time!

    Remember: Adolf Hitler came to power legally, too. Sometimes in life you get the democracy you deserve.

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    1. So I gather you, like the racists, are against LA PROVINCE CANADIENNE DE MONTREAL?
      We give them our Canadian territory?

      Thanks for your help man...

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    2. We give them our Canadian territory?

      Our ?!?

      Ishhhhh....

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    4. GD & S.R.: First of all, this is the price of complacency. If Marois wins, it appears she is going to financially run Quebec into the ground. Then what? They're going to have to rely on others to direct them financially like Greece is right now. They're at the mercy of the IMF and the Germans who pretty much direct the Euro.

      It's entirely possible, and conceivable, that what happened to Zimbabwe will happen to Quebec. Zimbabwe has had the 100 trillion dollar bill that can't buy a dozen eggs!
      http://www.significancemagazine.org/SpringboardWebApp/userfiles/sig/image/ChampkinUploads/Zimbabwe_$100_trillion_2009_Obverse(1).jpg

      Face it, fellow contributors. Quebec has become increasingly nationalistic, and the time to nip it in the bud has come and gone. Tough luck!

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    5. It is rather easy to scare the PQ supporters. All the federal government has to do is declare that federal airports in Quebec will never be part of an independent Quebec.The cost of replacing them would be enormous, particularly for a partitioned Quebec with an untenable amount of debt. The U.S could really scare the shit out of the PQ by declaring that all elected members of the PQ and members of the PQ and anyone who publicly declares their support for independence will go on the no fly list. No more Florida vacations.

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    6. John K.: Fahgeddaboudit! That will never happen re a Quebec no-fly list. There are time shares, and other community/land developers that stipulate Quebec residents don't qualify for purchases (I had a friend who has subsequently moved overseas who found this out once on a trip to Florida many years ago - and he was Anglophone)! The reason for "disqualifying" Quebec is painfully obvious--they didn't want frenchie communities, but to prevent easy tourist dollars from coming into Florida? Fahgeddaboudit!

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    7. Sauga, I need an interpreter to understand what you wrote. One has to be a little creative but it would be highly enjoyable to watch separatists panic.

      Poor S.R. would not be able to add to his list of U.S states to visit.

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    8. Sure, our territory. I can go anywhere in Canada I wish; so can you.

      It should be moreso; we should be able to travel within the USA as easily.

      Borders are superfluous in most of North America. (I admit that currently, I think Mexico is a little too violent to embrace openly just yet)

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    9. increasingly nationalistic, and the time to nip it in the bud has come and gone

      Honestly Mister Sauga, I do see your point.

      I even agree. I don't think nationalism has a place here; it's a relic of the past.

      If there was a way to jettison the separatists into, say, an independent Gaspé (just to pick a spot/region), I'd reluctantly support it. Nationalists suck.

      Seems unworkable to lump everyone into the same pot in QC; I don't believe "everyone is the same", in QC, in Montréal, in Vancouver, in Seattle, in Oregon, in Chile, etc.

      But having disagreed with your idea in the past, I should say that in principle, I can totally understand where you're coming from.

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  5. This is article 18 of The Universal Declaration of Human Rights:

    Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

    This is section 2 of The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms:

    Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
    (a) freedom of conscience and religion;
    (b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
    (c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
    (d) freedom of association.


    This is article 10 of Quebec Charter of Human Rights and Freedoms:

    Every person has a right to full and equal recognition and exercise of his human rights and freedoms, without distinction, exclusion or preference based on race, colour, sex, pregnancy, sexual orientation, civil status, age except as provided by law, religion, political convictions, language, ethnic or national origin, social condition, a handicap or the use of any means to palliate a handicap.

    My point is, how would Marois roll out her proposed laws without being directly against those fundamental laws? She would even go against the Quebec Charter even if she did not recognize Canadian and Canadian-ratified laws.

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    1. Troy,

      Here is the unfortunate answer to your question:

      http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/elections-quebec-2012/201208/16/01-4565767-charte-sur-la-laicite-le-pq-pourrait-defier-la-cour-supreme-dit-lisee.php

      Just when we thought this election was going to be all about the ailing economy and corruption, guess again. Lisée, Marois and the other PQ strategists figured out a key point in their campaign...

      ...we're in the middle of vacation season here, and those who have not taken this opportunity to leave Québec for their vacation are likely the very same people who couldn't imagine venturing out of its borders.

      They realized that those who remain here during vacation season are in large part isolationists [xenophobes]and therefore would be around to have their bigotry buttons pushed.

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    2. Harvey Dent,

      Their (particularly Lisee) going against "Canadian establishments" is pretty much not a surprise. However, as I wrote above, they are also going against Quebec Charter of Human Rights and Freedoms. Would it be funny for them to be ruled non-compliance to the Quebec Charter?

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    3. Trouble is, they're already planning to create a new charter that defines Québécois values and what's to be adhered to. They've been laying this foundation down for years now...the only thing missing is the power to enact their work, which seems to be well withing reach.

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    4. I can see S.R does not follow boxing or understand the fundamentals that lead to victory in this sport.

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    5. Charest devrait être knockout après le "combats" des chefs,les uppercuts vont déferlés des 3 boxeurs adverses enragés.Sans oublier les coup en bas de la ceinture qui seront excessivement difficiles à éviter.Johnny boy devrait se faire défriser quelque peu...Je ne voudrais pas être dans son slip.

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  6. I am glad Editor pointed out that Jauques Parizeau wasn't as negative in terms of being premier for the minorities as the other PQ Premiers. Even though he pushed through a referendum, I don't remember any new language restrictions during his term in as Premier. I remember that it was Bernard Landry that created bill 103 that closed a loophole in bill 101, where parents who were Canadian citizens had the right to allow their Children to attend English public school if they had attended 1 year of Private non government subsidized English school.

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    1. Sorry, but I don't see this re Parasite. He clearly displayed his sour grapes that night and weeks later named the Jews, Greeks and Italians as his dream crushers at some poltical junket in Calgary. That's unpardonable and unacceptable no matter how you cut it!

      Ever read the late Mordechai Richler's Oh Canada! Oh Quebec!? In it, Richler wrote about running into René Lévesque at some college mixer one time at Harvard University. Richler asked Quebec about something Laurin did when authoring Bill 101 and Lévesque retorted he couldn't stand Laurin. Richler snapped back asking Lévesque why he appointed Laurin into his cabinet. Lévesque's response? His usual dumb grin, shrug, and he walked away. Maybe Lévesque's visions of Quebec nationalism were somewhat benevolent, but he still put the militants in charge of enforcement. GUILTY...as charged!

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    2. Sounds like Chief Justice Haywood, giving it to Ernst Janning.

      Well said Saug!!

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    3. There's still a passion in you for the truth for us, QC Canadians..

      Like TheBoss would say:

      That's good. That's Good...

      *The River plays, and all flows majestically*

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    4. If you knew Levesque personally, you would know that he had his demons. His private persona was not the same as his public persona. That is something that starry eyed sovereigntists who can only read about players like Levesque cannot understand because they have to read about Quebec history in books rather than having known the players personally.

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    5. GD: You obviously read my contribution in a recent blog. Haywood's parting words to Ernst Janning were "You were guilty the first time you sentenced a man you knew was innocent". Lévesque fits those words. His vision of Quebec, at least the way he described it was far more serene than that of the militant zealots, but he placed the zealots in cabinet even though he admitted he couldn't stand Camille Laurin. He was the Goebbels of that first PQ mandate.

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  7. By the way that Quebec welcomes you sign, is alot better looking then the current ones that say Bonjour.

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    1. You're right, and the newer ones are written, along with French, in Italian, Spanish and Portuguese...and Pauline Marois with her minions say they have respect for English, eh? Merde du torreau!

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  8. Oh, I forgot something.

    If anyone ever thinks that Djemila Benhabib is a representative of the Muslim community, think again. She is fervently anti-Islam, not just the practice but also the religion itself. She is certainly not in the same color as Fatima Houda-Pepin.

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  9. I'm beating a dead horse here gentlemen, but I feel I just have too: ANYONE but the the PQ (ok except the communist QS). Libs are crashing and burning. We need to massively move to the CAQ, the only party that promises reform. I would vote for the Quebec Conservative party, but there's no way in ___ they're getting anyone elected.

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    1. Anglos and allos need to vote strategically. In areas where they are the clear majority they will have to vote liberal. In areas where they have to vote strategically it would have to be to elect either a CAQ or liberal candidate depending on which party is stronger in the area.

      On the other hand, lets wait for the leadership debate. I have a feeling Charest will wipe the floor with Marois and Legualt.

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    2. "Anglos and allos need to vote strategically."

      Vous surestimez l'intelligence de certains,surtout que vos groupes multiethniques et hétéroclytes semblent totalement désorganisés.Vous semblez plus fort sur les médias sociaux qu'au niveau de la stratégie (réelle) de terrain.

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    3. @SR

      Actually the allos are alot more then Anglos likely to vote Liberal. I still remember the NDP wave where Anglos got on the Oncle Tom bandwagon. SR, wow your calling me delusional? That actually made me chuckle. Its like a life long welfare user giving advice on the virtues of hard work.

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  10. Regarding Djemila Benhabib, I find this entire situation humorous.

    Why?

    Well, first of all I never understood immigrants that affiliate themselves to the Parti Québécois as it's policies and viewpoints are completely diametrically opposed to immigrant rights.

    Yet, you still have some that see opportunity by joining this party (like Maka Kotto, whose acting career failed and he had no other options).

    This whole situation should serve as a lesson to Benhabib and other immigrants who align themselves with the PQ:

    THEY DO NOT LIKE YOU.

    The only reason the PQ is embracing immigrants in any way is because they have to...for now.

    They need shills in order to appear "open and welcoming."

    This is exactly the reason why Maka Kotto, a visible minority and immigrant was placed DIRECTLY next to Marois during her press conference on tightening Bill 101.

    When that hillbilly mayor attacked Benhabib, she should have taken it as a indication of the underlying racism she as an immigrant should be fighting.

    However, after hearing her rebuttal on the radio yesterday, it's clear this woman is just as out of touch with reality as Marois.

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    1. Speaking of minorities and péquistes, in the last federal election the former Bloc MP for my riding (a white francophone) was beaten by the NDP candidate I voted for (a black bilingual anglophone). Quelle surprise, the former bloquiste is now running for the PQ in Verdun. On his YouTube page, he questions whether his replacement is really a true Quebecer because he doesn’t mention nationhood in every breath. I can’t help thinking that there’s something else going on here… and it’s not only sour grapes. Is it just my imagination? Is there really any other reason for such a video to exist?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqPs_78VFeo&list=UUeKMh49BWteEQmx_oTPTg4A&index=3&feature=plcp

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    2. You're right. You would never see people doubting whether or not Mayor Nenshi is a "True Albertan/Canadian" for instance.

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  11. Can't agree more with the editors opinion of Marois. I think she should likely be in therapy as should others of her similar mindset. It would appear there is no boundaries to what she will do to the province in order to achieve here sociopathic goals.

    Quebecers must be very careful. If, by some chance she is elected, she has promised to raise the level of animosity between Ottawa and Quebec. This time, they will be likely be dealing with Stephen Harper and not Jean Chretin, Dion or Trudeau. The outcomes of this tough talk could result in tough love. I do not believe there will be much sympathy for Quebec from the ROC and particularily the West.

    The rising debt should be of grave concern to Quebecers and future generations of Quebecers. It is daunting. To put things in perspective, Saskatchewan has about 1 million people and has a debt (not including pension liabilities) of about 4 billion dollars. If you mutliply the Saskatchewan debt by 8 times to equate the the populartion of Quebec the debt would be about 30 billion dollars. Quebec's debt is nearly 10 times more at the 252 Billion posted on the debt clock. Even a marginal increase in interest rates or a downgrading in credit rating (Raising interest on bonds rates) will plunge Quebec into eonomic devastation.

    Marois and the PQ platform is truly the roadmap for disaster.

    Of course, in the current situation, I doubt the CAQ or PLQ can do much to turn around the train which has a full head of steam, heading towards the washed out bridge.

    A Westerner.








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  12. kippah? not ok; hijab? not ok; a cross? bien sure! mais une toute petite...
    Exactly what this woman said yesterday @ CBC Daybreak.

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    1. Mike Finnerty on Daybreak: “Pauline Marois, good morning!”
      Pauline Marois: “Fine, thank you very much!”

      LOLOLOL… memorize much?
      http://www.cbc.ca/daybreakmontreal/2012/08/pauline-marois-live.html

      At 8:25, she says we should keep the crucifix in the National Assembly because it’s “part of our patrimoine, a part of our history and we don’t have to renounce our history.”
      Well, guess what else is part of our patrimony?
      English.

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    2. Son anglais est vraiment terrible hein...

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    3. Well, guess what else is part of our patrimony?
      English.

      Hmmmm,pas certain du tout.Chose certaine,c'est que les Québécois sont sur le point de faire le ménage du grenier et de se débarrasser d'objets inutiles et encombrants.

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    4. S.R., you can try seeing how useful French is when you add to your collection of U.S. states that you so enjoy visiting.

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    5. So there's very little French in most US states, John.

      Means nothing, and you have no point.

      French remains an important, useful, and globe-spanning language.

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    6. In decline in Europe, unfortunately. But still, it's certainly in the most influencial/widespread languages of the world.

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    7. Chose certaine,c'est que les Québécois sont sur le point de faire le ménage du grenier et de se débarrasser d'objets inutiles et encombrants.

      ... un processus qui se vit en continu, d'ailleurs. On a tous vu comment le Bloc s'est fait varloper au Fédéral l'an dernier et même la castafiore si elle est élue devra bien se comporter sous peine de voir son gouvernement s'effriter lors d'un vote de non-confiance.

      Le vrai ménage reste à faire, mais nous le ferons tôt ou tard.

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    8. ... un processus qui se vit en continu

      Chacun son tour,c'est le grand principe universel du pendule...Hélas.

      En passant Gillou a repris discrètement du service auprès de ses fidèles amis Québécois,quel homme dévoué.Avouons qu'il est coriace celui-là.

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  13. In what way is the CAQ better? I understand that a minority CAQ government would lead to another election.

    We really are a bunch of crash test dummies (excellent one MG).

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    1. La communauté anglo est prit en souricière...Comme c'est drôle! :)

      Attendons-nous à un déferlement d'épouvantails qui sont,avouons-le,de moins en moins intimidants.

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    2. Priss en souricière ou grand danger existentiel pour la société québécoise en général?

      Combien de fois crois-tu pouvoir affirmer une chose et son contraire sans passer pour un hostie de coune?

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  14. Très bonne nouvelle:

    Marc Bellemarre ne se présente pas dans Sherbrooke

    Mais il appuiera Monsieur Cardin...Évidemment.

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  16. Editor, good post. Yet what I find even more interesting about PQ's "proposals" are the fantasy-land ones. Extension of 101 to Cegeps, more funding for the OQLF, invoking the notwithstanding clause to fight "les ecoles passarelles", extending 101 to small businesses, the crusade against religious symbols, all that may be repugnant but is doable... However, in the PQ's "program" there are a few proposals that are pure fantasy. One is making employee-with-employee conversations in French only. Another one is something I heard yesterday, mentioned in passing on French tv: Marois promised to crack down on English store names downtown. Now, this is something that you and we covered on this blog already, but it's worth reiterating how a move to force a store like Future Shop to change its name to La Boutique du Futur is against not only international law or the Canadian Charter, but also the Quebec Charter, and how the rich multinationals can sting back at the PQ in court. I would therefore be very excited to see the PQ pursue this course (should they form the government). This is one area where they would get their asses kicked severely, so I hope they won't backtrack on this "promise" shall they form the next government.

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    1. I've said it once, I'll say it again - those who know nothing of enterprise should be prohibited from governing it. I would love to see how people like S.R, Pierre Curzi or Pierre Falardeau would fare in the business world.

      Oh wait, that's right they wouldn't. They don't have the first clue how much blood, sweat and tears goes into building a brand like Future Shop, Second Cup and the like. They don't have what it takes to weather the storm and build the businesses that ultimately go on to support hundreds of thousands in this province.

      I almost hope the PQ does get elected at that rate, just to watch them completely trip over themselves as they realize that their promises are both unrealistic as well as illegal and subsequently come off as liars (which they are).

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  17. "...move to force a store like Future Shop to change its name to La Boutique du Futur..."

    C'est faux Adski!Et vous le savez.Il s'agit d'ajouter un descriptif à la raison social:

    Future shop deviendrait : Boutique ou magasin d'électronique Futur shop

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    1. And exactly what would that do for you.

      BTW, there is nothing that the Quebec government can do legally to force a name change because Future Shop is a trade mark governed exclusively by federal law, so stop behaving like a child wasting your time on such blatant pettiness.

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  18. If the polls of

    34% PQ
    27% PLQ
    25% CAQ
    07% QS

    are correct. and if the bace of the PLQ is mostly in tact at 19% (Alo/Anglo) of the 27%, the remaining 8% Franco voters, even if they believe JJC could have done more as PM, are distinguishing themselves against racism.

    This begs questions like:

    Is it possible that so many QC FrancoCanadians are QuébécoisRacists?
    Could the QuébécoisSeparatistFactory "schools" have entrapped that many people?
    Is it possible that these FrancoCanadians have lived a lie as Canadians all the while waiting to stab their country in the back?

    I choose to believe that FrancoCanadians are still among the best there is, and that the ballot will prove it on September 4th!

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    1. You have to look at the regional breakdown.

      You're looking at about 60% non-franco voters for the PLQ, 20% for the CAQ, 12% for the PQ, and 8% for the rest.

      Amongst the franco, it's roughly 40% for the PQ, 26% for the CAQ, 21% for the PLQ.

      Charest's going to have a really hard time winning an election being in third place amongst francophones. The problem is that the francophone is divided between the CAQ and the PLQ, unless people switch from PQ to CAQ en-masse, Marois's going to pull a Harper.

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    2. GensDenis,

      based on the the polls, unfortunately the answer to all your questions is: "Apparently, yes!"

      From what I see, you and Apparatchik are a minority, sadly. I have been told at one point that because the national issue is been forged as emotional and not rational, it will never disappear - eventually Qc will separate, regardless of the bad consequences.

      I've invested time and money in Qc, because I believed a balance has been achieved and people can actually concentrate on normal issues: economy, debt, health. I have been sadly mistaken, apparently. Fortunately, I have been through a major relocation and that will make a second one somehow easier. Only time will tell, and we'll find out on Sept 4th.

      I also believe that maybe the partition scenario should be discussed more.

      Cheers.

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    3. TS - Where were you from before you went to Quebec, and what made you want to go there?

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    4. Also - what Gensdenis quotes is the latest CROP poll. The latest Léger poll tells almost the same story, but the CAQ even higher. See it here.

      It will all be decided by the debates.

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    5. I came from Europe, and when deciding to come to Ca, I chose Qc because of its perceived European flavour, and I had a lot of friends and family here (so I knew about the whole predomination of Fr - and was Ok with it, because I also speak Fr). I didn't know about the harassment, though. I still like Montreal, but it seems that it's in the wrong province.

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    6. Effectivement c'était une bonne question S.R. - vois-tu, ton immigrant récalcitrant est quelqu'un qui est venu au Québec spécifiquement pour son charactère distinct et français mais qui a été dégouté par l'extrêmisme des gens comme par exemple les vendeurs de ticket qui refusent de parler anglais par pure mesquinerie.

      Comme tu le sais bien, si on veut inciter les gens à faire quelque chose, il faut leur offrir la carotte et pas seulement le bâton.

      Je vais te poser une question sérieuse : n'est-il pas suffisant que les immigrants soient tenus de placer leurs enfants dans les écoles françaises? ne serait-il pas suffisant que les affiches doivent placer le français sans que ça doit être plus gros? ne serait-il pas suffisant que les commerces soient tenus d'offrir le service en français?

      Pourquoi faut-il forcer deux anglophones dans une business à 100 employés à se parler en Français? Pourquoi faut-il que les vendeurs de tickets traitent les gens (qui peuvent bien être des touristes!) avec discourtoisie? Pourquoi faut-il jeter des crottes de chiens sur un dépanneur d'un pauvre type qui n'a pas encore apris le français, même si ses enfants le savent?

      En bref, pourquoi n'est-il pas suffisant de se concentrer à encourager la langue française, sans pour autant continuellement rabaisser la langue anglaise? Ce n'est pas un "Zero-sum Game", comme diraient les anglos. Le raisonnement se réduit à celui avancé par le type qui a publié "Bilingual Today, French Tomorrow".

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    7. "ton immigrant récalcitrant est quelqu'un qui est venu au Québec spécifiquement pour son charactère distinct et français mais qui a été dégouté par l'extrêmisme des gens comme par exemple les vendeurs de ticket qui refusent de parler anglais par pure mesquinerie."


      Yannick, merci à toi ! Je n'aurais pas pu mieux le dire !

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    8. Alors pourquoi notre immigrant n'a pas choisi le Nouveau-Brunswick?Tous les "francophones" ont la capacité de "switcher" vers l'anglais sur demande.

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    9. Alors c'est tout comme réponse, S.R?

      Pas mal faible. Au même temps je ne m'attendais pas à mieux.

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    10. Parce que le nouveau-Brunswick, sauf en région rurale, n'a pas le charactère français? On parle également d'une province ayant 1/10 des habitants du Québec, où la plus grande ville est d'environ 100 000 habitants si on est généreux, et où les possibilités d'emplois sont moindres.

      Je suis d'accord avec toi qu'il y a besoin de lois pour assurer la survie du français au Québec et au Canada; je ne suis juste pas d'accord avec l'étandue de ces lois car elles vont plus loin qu'assurer le français, elles empiègnent la dignité des gens. Ce n'est pas au comptoir de tickets que notre immigrant apprendra subitement le français, lui refuser le service même si l'on est bilingue ne servira qu'à le faire se sentir rejeté, et il ne voudra pas plus apprendre le français!

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    11. S.R,

      Please refer to my answer to Yannick's question.

      Speaking French has never been an issue for me, as I have been learning French as a second language from school. As a side note, because I (still) do not speak Joual, I have been made fun of and called haughty. I suppose that should be put on the next Quebec Charter of values.

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    12. * by school I meant 'secondary school'.

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    13. Parce que le nouveau-Brunswick, sauf en région rurale, n'a pas le charactère français?

      N'a pas ou n'a plus?Avoue que le grand dérangement de 1755 était plutôt un geste mesquin de la part de nos amis anglos.

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    14. "As a side note, because I (still) do not speak Joual, I have been made fun of and called haughty."

      Plusieurs Californiens subissent le même traitement à Houston,Texas.

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    15. Les californiens ont un accent hautain selon les Texans,de même pour les new-yorkais qui visitent le Maine.

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    16. I see... well, I am not sure if you can understand the difference between accent and Quebec French vs. well... French.

      It has been my feeling since I came here, that Joual is some sort of national identity symbol and I'll be forever par of les aut' for speaking 'regular' French.

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    17. Yannick,
      As I said before, although I do like you, I find you help legitimize the racists like some Voltaire wannabe, however in this stream, your logical questions to S.R are as TC put it
      “merci à toi! Je n'aurais pas pu mieux le dire”.


      TC,
      The word is Province, Not partition!
      You don’t give a country to the racists and then try to take it apart. By the looks of it the only country willing to allow itself to be diced and balkanized is Canada.

      No TC, the plan is in the works on four fronts that I know off already and it is to ask the Governor-General and the Canadian Government for the recognition of the 11th or 12th (Toronto is doing this too) province! I dare you to find something treasonous or unconstitutional about this plan especially since it looks like
      LA PROVINCE CANADIENNE DE MONTREAL
      will harbor about 4.5 million people!


      S.R ,
      Your reply to Yannick and to TC proves how your movement is based on jealousy, racism and revenge!

      Why are we dumb Canadians still talking to you?

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    18. "I see... well, I am not sure if you can understand the difference between accent and Quebec French vs. well... French."

      Et c'est quoi le vrai français (ou anglais) monsieur le linguiste?

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    19. quelqu'un qui est venu au Québec spécifiquement pour son charactère distinct et français mais qui a été dégouté par l'extrêmisme des gens

      Ça a été le cas pour moi, Yannick.

      Je retient encore des amis que j'ai fait pendant que j'habitais a Montréal, et la plupart des gens (et surtout a Montréal) ne sont pas extrêmement extrême, mais les extrêmistes ont pourri mon expérience. Il y en a partout, les extrêmistes, mais c'etait tellement fatiguant qu'enfin j'ai pris une journée la décision a m'installer a Toronto en lieu... et en 4 jours, je me suis trouvé sur le train pour une nouvelle ville.

      Même entouré par des amis qui m'encourageais, je me sentais mal a l'aise chaque fois qu'on m'a dit, lorsque on se rencontrait, "Ah, tu ne viens pas d'ici...". On ne peut jamais savoir parler, écrire, lire français assez pour les satisfaire, et tandis que la plupart de citoyens ne sont pas des xenophobes nationalistes, la plupart ne s'intéresse jamais a parler en français avec ceux qui ne sont pas nés francophones. Par contraste, la plupart des hispanophones adorent a aider les gens pratiquer et améliorer leur espagnol. C'est une des raisons pourquoi l'espagnol est projeté a survivre et le français, not so much.

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    20. J'en suis désolé, JBG. Je suis content que ça ne t'as pas trop dégouté de la langue française.

      Je dois dire qu'en Ontario j'ai parfois été traité de la même façon... le gars qui a déménagé mes boîtes au greyhound pour que je déménage en Alberta me parlait d'immigrants et m'a dit "You're obviously not from Canada, where are you from?" - hahaha. :P

      Maintenant je parles si bien Anglais que les gens ne peuvent plus dire que je ne suis pas un anglophones "de souche" - je crois que je me fais mieux traiter ainsi.

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    21. Avoue que le grand dérangement de 1755 était plutôt un geste mesquin de la part de nos amis anglos.

      Pas plus que le PQ qui cherche à créer une citoyenneté québécoise pour dépouiller les droits individuels de tous ceux qu'ils n'aiment pas et qui refusent de prêter allégeance au programme des péquistes.

      Comme quoi que l'histoire se répète, rappelons que ceux qui furent déportés en 1755 étaient ceux qui refusaient de prêter allégeance au souverain britannique...

      Mais vous péquistes savez récupérer tout événement, historique ou actuel, pour dépeindre des francophones comme étant des victimes perpétuelles et des anglophones des méchants colonisateurs. Nous autres savons, par contre, que votre laïcité est xénophobe et que votre crise d'identité n'est qu'un prétexte pour assouvir davantage votre vengeance ethniste.

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    22. "Mais vous péquistes savez récupérer tout événement, historique ou actuel, pour dépeindre des francophones comme étant des victimes perpétuelles"

      Mais non!Nous sommes les nazis et les anglos,les victimes.Je croyais pourtant que vous étiez un lecteur assidu de ce bloye.

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    23. La déportation s'est passée il y a 250 ans, ça n'a rien à voir avec les anglos d'aujourd'hui même si nous n'oublieront jamais.

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    24. Les anglos n'ont pas changé,heureusement que les lois,oui.Beaucoup d'anglos souhaiteraent notre déportation (voir médias sociaux),si c'était encore possible.

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    25. Don't you also want the deportation of the Qc Anglos outside the Qc borders? Aren't you encouraging it?

      You are, sir, a hypocrite.

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    26. @M.Tooth

      "Alors c'est tout comme réponse, S.R?"

      Pouvez-vous m'expliquer en quoi consistent les "charmes" du caractère français d'une province si tous les francophones parlent anglais?

      Vous n'êtes pas très charmeur M.Tooth

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  19. http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/elections-quebec-2012/201208/17/01-4566005-les-riches-paieront-plus-dimpot-sous-un-gouvernement-caquiste.php?utm_categorieinterne=trafficdrivers&utm_contenuinterne=cyberpresse_B13b_partis_1956692_section_POS1

    Actuellement, les contribuables qui réalisent un gain en vendant un immeuble qu'ils n'habitent pas ne sont taxés que sur la moitié ce profit. Ce seuil sera haussé à 75% dès l'an prochain, si la CAQ est élue. Ce changement fiscal rapportera 416 millions de plus au gouvernement.

    Traduction: "Si vous voulez réussir votre vie...go west"

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    1. 75% on the profits from real estate speculation?

      Well, why not? We've seen what real estate speculation does - it makes normal people unable to own their own homes, with shacks being worth a million dollars in Vancouver and Toronto.

      In Calgary I live in the North-West, most people who live there only do so because they bought their houses in the 60's. They literally would not be able to afford living in their own neighborhood otherwise.

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    2. It's only a matter of time before taxes in Qc will go up. People were complaining about the "health tax"? That will be peanuts compared to what's in store. There's no other mathematical solution. Taxes and employment cuts (and if PQ is forming a government, there will be cuts from the wrong places).

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  20. It is truly frightening that this brand of PQunt has everyone saying that Parizite really wasn‘t that racist. It just shows how much the movement has devolved since they felt like Mario Dumont stole the xenophobic and RACIST mantle from them in 2007:

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  21. Marois-Antoinette will not be amused by your article.

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  22. Marois is probably near the top of my list of least favourite people right now. But I can see polls for what they really are, inaccurate. Grabbing a group of randomly selected people and asking them their political preferences does not reflect the outcome of millions of voters filling out their ballots on the 4th of September. These polls were conducted prior to the media exposing her antisemitic, islamiphobic ambitions, I would imagine. Furthermore, the riding based electoral system that we have in Canada means that percentages based on polls will be different from percentages based on the number of electoral districts held by each party, correct me if I'm wrong. I think that when all this is considered, there is a slim chance that the PQ will win the election.

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  23. This from a comment in the Globe and Mail:

    Between 1922 and 1940 women from Quebec were the only Canadian women who did not have the right to vote. It was during his campaign against the women's right to vote that, in the early thirties, Maurice Duplessis brought in the crucifix into the National Assembly. Quebec society , declared Duplessis, had nothing to gain by granting the right to vote to women. He vowed to protect the place of women in the home. And to do this, he used that crucifix and the clergy. Quebec women were denied the right to vote until his defeat.

    How ironic that Madame Marois would find it important to maintain the symbol of the oppression of Quebec women by the Quebec state, and in the a place where the state exercises its authority on the people.

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    1. Wow, I didn't know that... and that is pretty ironic!! Hahaha.

      Interesting comment. Try this more, and "self-hating Jew" less.

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  24. Whenever I see the name of that self-hating Jew, Noam Chomsky, I cringe.

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    1. John Krug ...
      "that self-hating Jew"

      Jacques Beau Vert...
      "Pathetic comment."

      I don't usually interfere in the comment section, but I can't let this go.
      Noam Chomsky is exactly as described above.
      Another good example..... Bruce Katz of Israel-hating PAJU

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    2. Perhaps, but it still is a pathetic comment.

      What would you think if, for instance, I called Apparatchik, Harvey Dent and GensDenis "self-hating francos" because they take a stand against "their own" (by which I mean pure-laine seperatists)?

      Not that I think they are such, but certainly some of our pass-by troll commenters have described them as such by calling them "Elvis Gratton."

      The actions of Israel are just as (if not more) controversial than those of the PQ.

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    3. And of course by "Israel" I don't mean Israel as a whole - the traditionalist Zionists who support the colonies in Palestinian territory come to mind when I have to mention controversial factions of Israel.

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    4. Don't any of you dare call me a self-hating francophone.

      There's a huge difference between blind and passionate hate and arriving at thoughtful and vocal criticism of the ideological direction of group that I happen to belong to.

      I'm no nationalist (Québécois, Canadian, or other), and I find "patriotism" is often co-opted by manipulative populist interests in a bid to impose a holier-than-thou and intimidating groupthink upon a hapless population. In my current setting, I happen to have a bigger problem with the PQ because in my judgment they have spent more time engaging in this intimidating groupthink operation on Quebecers since the creation of that party than anyone else.

      I also have some choice things to say about anglophones and allophones, notably regarding their insularity in and around Montreal. To cite one extreme example, separating Montreal from Quebec is just as idiotic of separating Quebec from Canada, in my view. I've touched on this in the past and will more than gladly do so in the future.

      That being said, I can't agree with blanket statements calling Noam Chomsky a self-hating Jew, Djemila Benhabib (whom I nonetheless view as Chomsky's intellectual junior) a self-hating Muslim, or Stéphane Gendron (likewise no Chomsky himself) an opportunistic self-hating francophone. Being willing to denounce the tyranny of your own people for what it is is indeed a noble quality. If only more of us had it, I believe this world would indeed be a better place.

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    1. "I have nothing against most French people..."

      Quand une affirmation commence comme ça...Issshhh

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    2. But I can see polls for what they really are, inaccurate.

      Oui exactement. C'est trop tôt a entamer a deviner le résultat.

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    3. "Oui exactement. C'est trop tôt a entamer a deviner le résultat"

      Google translate ou quoi?

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    4. Oh man, I feel for you, Jacques... here you are, trying your best, and some nincompoop feels like disparaging your attempts in writing in the other language, even though not even one single time has he himself ever attempted to demonstrate his own ability in writing in English. He embarrasses Quebec and I certainly hope that you don't feel our troll's attempts at shaming Quebec reflect reality in any way, man!

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    5. Je préfère le lire en anglais que de voir ma langue se faire massacrer à ce point.Vraiment insultant!

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    1. Pauline tient les anglos par les couilles,vous n'avez pas honte?Faites quelque chose,je sais pas...Allez manifester dans les rues,organisez-vous,soyez des hommes quoi!

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    2. Like storming the Bastille of Pauline Antoinette d'Hélicoptère?

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      Are you new to this blog? Are you the same Anon 11:31 above?

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    3. Since you're new, you may want to have a look at the recent post dealing with the topic of partition:
      http://nodogsoranglophones.blogspot.ca/2012/05/partition-is.html

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  29. @anon 6:53

    Why not make Montreal just do a unilateral declaration of sovereignty. Montreal doesn't even have to be a province, it can just declare itself a sovereign territory within the borders of Quebec or even a territory of Canada like the Yukon or Nunavut. Whatever the case Quebec would not be able to deal with the seperation game used against them. It would never cross their minds that this was even possible scenario. It would be up to the boroughs of city of Montreal and Municipalities to organize a referendum.

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    1. Allez-vous demander l'avis des 50% des francophones qui y vivent ou y travaillent?

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    2. It is about Montreal, Laval, Longueuil, Outaouais etc. 4.5 million people will make it the second most populated province of CANADA!
      The legal mechanism for the 11th or 12th Canadian Province is in place and it is not treason to ask from Our Country, Canada and from The Governor General permission and affirmation.

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    3. That's not answering the question. Presumably a referendum will be held so that this becomes a reality, do you really think the majority of Greater Montreal will vote yes?

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    4. I think Oncle Jacques can answer your question Yannick.

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    5. "...do you really think the majority of Greater Montreal will vote yes?"

      Es-tu toujours aussi rabat-joie Yannick avec tes questions futiles ?

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    6. Une question comme ça,pourquoi ne pas simplement annexer ce territoire avec l'ontario?

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  30. I have nothing against S.R...

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    1. Well S.R. has something against you....because you`re English.

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    2. He also appears to have something against allowing residents of Montreal the democratic right to hold their own referendum.

      Honestly, is there such a thing as a separatist with integrity? Or is it the minute you pledge to burn anyone non-white/non-Franco in effigy, you are also pledging an oath to hypocrisy?

      Editor, if you're reading this comment, would you consider writing a piece in which we question our isolated buddies on why it would be wrong for Montreal to break away from La Belle Pro?

      Oh how I would love to see Gilles Duceppe's face go its trademark beet-red upon hearing Tremblay's declaration of adhesion to Canada.

      http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2008/12/03/duceppe-angry-cp-5931891.jpg

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    3. "He also appears to have something against allowing residents of Montreal the democratic right to hold their own referendum."

      Je n'ai aucune objection,j'ai simplement demander si nous,les francophones,aurions droit de regard concernant l'éventuelle autonomie de Montréal ou si cette rupture s'exercerait de façon unilatérale de l'administration municipale.

      De plus j'ai déjà pris position su le sujet à savoir que je suis pour la sortie de cette ville du Québec et de faire de Québec,la vraie ville Québécoise.Maintenant,il reste à vérifier les dispositions à ce sujet,incluses dans la constitution canadienne.

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    4. New to this Blog however I am a resident of the Outaouais and I can assure everyone here that there are many of us in this area that will fight for our land and the right to remain part of Canada! The PQ have no right, in any way, to take away our Citizenship and, should they try it, they will be very surprised by our response. They will kill us economically and socially should this ever come to be and most of us in this area, will not allow this to happen quietly. They are pushing us towards civil war without a second thought for their fellow citizens and they must be stopped. We need a federal and/or provincial party that will put these people in their place, tell them the truth and a provincial party that will sign the Canadian constitution to stop this continuous blackmailing and threatening that has gone on unabated for the past 30 years! Please, someone step up and run for office on this platform and they may be surprised by the number of votes they would receive.

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    5. "Please, someone step up and run for office on this platform..."

      Tic tac tic tac Tic tac tic tac...Pas de volontaire dans la salle?...Tic tac tic tac Tic tac tic tac...

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    6. Laurie, John Krug was making a sly reference to the comment at 10:37 above...

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    7. "The PQ have no right, in any way, to take away our Citizenship..."

      Hein?!?

      La démocratie,vous connaissez?

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    2. I agree 100%, However I don't think Marois will win this election because most of the educated Franco's know her plans just won't do the Province any good. Have you noticed it is mainly the older generation of French separatist that vote for her, the one's that can't speak or don't understand one word of English and feel treated by it.The younger generation of voters in Quebec don't want separation from Canada. I don't want to be mean here, but when all the old generation of French separatists die off and the newer generation takes it's place, then you won't here of Quebec wanting to separate anymore, and perhaps then we can all live in peace and harmony with each other.

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  32. On a rather lighter note:

    There are two rather important sub-national organizations in which the Premier of Quebec is a member: The Council of the Federation and the Conference of New England Governors and Eastern Canadian Premiers. Seeing Marois as who she is, what she is, what she represents and what she brings on the table, should she become the Premier of Quebec, would she not stick out like a sore thumb in those organizations? And I do not think that her opting out of those is a good idea for the province.

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    1. Wasn't Jean-Luc Picard a member of the Council of the Federation too?

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    2. The Cat,

      No. He was an officer of Starfleet, the military branch of the United Federation of Planets (UFP). The Federation Council was the legislature of UFP, but as a career officer Picard was never a member.

      Hey, I am a Trekkie so we can talk about Star Trek franchise all day if you want. However, seriously, what do you think about Ms. Marois and those organizations?

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    3. Why would she stick out more than the previous PQ leaders? Her useless skills in English?

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    4. Yannick,

      Particularly for The Council of the Federation, because that organization was formed only after Jean Charest took office. No PQ leader has been proven to be able to play nice there. And yes, previous PQ Premiers had much better command of English than she does.

      And good luck in hoping that other leaders speak to her in French. AFAIK, the ones that also speak French are McGuinty (ON), Alward (NB), Selinger (MB) and LePage (ME).

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    5. Thank you, Troy, for clearing up all that bother! I think I’ve got it now. ;-)

      But what about Q? Isn’t he still out there, creating havoc?

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  33. looks like the administrator here doesn't allow some people to speak their opinion, erasing some of the comments, and controlling to some degree what is being said here, shame on you for not allowing people to express their thoughts and opinions. Go ahead and erase this comment as well,

    what wrong?,you don't like it when the ENGLISH speak the truth.

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    1. You know, before you insult people and make idiotic accusations, you should be better informed.
      You obviously are new and unfamiliar with the commenting guidelines.
      Your comment should be removed for its sheer stupidity, but I'll let readers see it just he same.
      Please read the comment below to understand why you are an idiot..

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    2. REALLY!, Who the hell do you think you are, you think that you are smarter or more intelligent then I am? you don't even know me, so how can you even make such a immature remark. Read your last comment, it is YOU that is insulting me, but I don't care because you obviously have no control of yourself with that temperament. You started this editorial and invited all to comment on it, if you can't accept some peoples opinions or remarks then stop posting! YOUR REALLY IMMATURE, GROW UP.

      Note that's it's any of your business, but I got my MBA in 1990. What degree do you have! A Secondary 5 high school diploma, JURK. you can now delete this reply.

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    3. "Note that's it's any of your business, but I got my MBA in 1990. What degree do you have! A Secondary 5 high school diploma..."

      Votre MBA ne semble pas avoir d'effets positifs sur votre agressivité et sur vos capacités de concentration.Calmez-vous un peu et lisez attentivement les consignes de ce blogue.

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  34. DEAR ANONYMOUS POSTERS

    I've removed your comments, because all violated the rules about Anonymous posting.

    Please read the section at the top of this blog entitled "HOW TO COMMENT ON THIS BLOG"
    Using a screen name does not affect your anonymity and allows other readers to recognize you through multiple postings across multiple blog pieces.

    Using a screen alias, you can re-post the deleted entries.
    Thank you for your cooperation!

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  35. FROM ED BROWN
    I agree with the editor. If you haven't got the guts to identify yourself why should we listen to you.
    Your like the guy hiding in the crowd who shouts comments when someone is making a speech. Why snipe from hiding. Come out, we're not armed. Ed

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  36. Just a few thoughts,...Each year Quebec accepts more and more immigrants into the Province ( I have no problem with that.) The majority of those immigrants can't speak a word of French, however many can speak some English. The Quebec Government offers new immigrant FREE French language courses, they DO NOT offer free English courses to those immigrants that prefer to speak English, so their right under the Canadian Constitution is basically taken away from them. I find that the Canadian government turns a blind eye to the English citizens in Quebec, offering little to no assistance and basically allowing the Quebec government to over rule their rights as a CANADIAN under the charter of rights. Not everyone is treated equally in Quebec,I know because I live here.

    Why is it that the French here in Quebec feel so threatened by the English language? In MANY other countries, English is the second language used and taught in schools, and they don't feel threatened with that, in fact they encourage the people to learn the language since it is the most widely used language in the world for business.These countries don't feel threatened or worried about the English language because they know that it will remain the second language in that country, So, why does Quebec feel differently? are they worried the English will take over? I don't know of any other place on earth where the English language is basically banned from everything, they won't even allow the French citizens of Quebec to send their child to English school, they have taken away that right from them, and these people want to vote for the PQ? WHAT?

    What are your thoughts on some of the things that I have said here.
    Thank you.

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    1. Well I have some thoughts -

      "their right under the Canadian Constitution is basically taken away from them."­

      The Canadian Constitution is very clear on what rights are provided to the linguistic minorities, unfortunately courses for immigrants are nowhere in them, only primary/secondary education and even then only for some limited categories of people. Such education is then provided pro bono and there is no obligation for Quebec to provide it.

      I would also ask if, Ontario for instance, provides free classes to immigrants who would prefer to speak French.

      "Why is it that the French here in Quebec feel so threatened by the English language?"

      Quebec is in a unique position : It's a majoritarily French province, but it's in a country who has English as the language of the majority. When people immigrate to France, Italy, or the Netherlands, there is no real possibility that they won't learn the local language. It might not be a requirement for immigration, and it might not be a requirement for the job, but down the line you will have to learn it to obtain your citizenship. Furthermore, any children you have will be learning the language when they attend the public schools since the subjects are taught in the national language.

      Quebec is in a different position. There is no requirement to learn French to become a Canadian citizen even if one lives in Quebec, and immigrants have two communities to choose to integrate to : The English Canadians and the French Canadians which would not be the case in other countries. This means that all other things being equal, immigrants may very well come on Quebec ground, get a job in English, have their children educated in English, and never bother to learn French. When that happens, it puts the onus on the locals to learn a foreign language instead of being the responsibility of the immigrant to learn the local language.

      Now correct me if I'm wrong, but these other countries which are fine with English probably would not react very warmly with being unable to obtain basic services in their own language, or if immigrants would en-masse choose to not learn their language.

      A look at the Francophone communities outside Quebec might give you an idea of what Quebecers are afraid of. Outside of Quebec, Francophones learn English but Anglophones don't learn French, even when the numbers are equal or even locally lopsided towards Francophones. As a result, services are sparsely available and basically only the government will give itself the trouble. This is true even in bilingual New-Brunswick/Moncton (though to a lesser degree) where even though 1/3 of the population is French, only 17% of anglophones (1/6) bother to learn our language. In Moncton, a third of the population is French but 90% of the jobs operate in English, and the importance placed on bilingual services by business owners is sporadic. Advertising is in English only.

      It creates a vicious circles : Anglophones don't learn French, so French people have no services or access to jobs. French people then have to learn English to have services or access to jobs. Anglophones figure that Francophones know english anyway, so there's no need to learn French. Rinse and repeat.

      This is what Quebec has to look forward to if it doesn't put in place policies that will ensure immigrants learn their language.

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    2. "hey won't even allow the French citizens of Quebec to send their child to English school"

      Did you know that Anglophones aren't allowed to send their children to French schools in the Rest of Canada? Something parents of children concerned about the removal of early immigration in New-Brunswick were very surprised to learn. Of course our language is so poorly valued in the ROC that no one tries, no one gets rejected, and hence no one knows.

      Personally I think that allowing immigrants to attend a school system meant for a linguistic minority (and not the official language school system) is tantamount to accepting that children of immigrants do not learn the official language of the area, and will inevitably lead to assimilation of the last officially french jurisdiction in North America. I don't see why any jurisdiction with the power to prevent it would willingly allow themselves to disapear.

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    3. Such education is then provided pro bono and there is no obligation for Quebec to provide it.
      Are you talking about primary/secondary education or language training in general? I hope you aren't referring to the former, because you should be aware that people in Canada have successfully fought and won their right to build French-language educational institutions.

      Quebec is in a unique position : It's a majoritarily French province, but it's in a country who has English as the language of the majority.
      ...yet we act like a "quasi-country" when it suits us all while demanding our full rights as a province when it's time to receive a handout/payout. For all the reverential "primacy" Quebec demands in recognition of our Frenchness, we continually show our ingratitude -- not only toward "distant" English Canada (for not aggressively and forcefully assimilating us) but especially our population of anglo-Quebecers by gradually eroding their rights and calling for their "creeping" presence to be culled like an overgrowth of weeds.

      When people immigrate to France, Italy, or the Netherlands, there is no real possibility that they won't learn the local language. It might not be a requirement for immigration, and it might not be a requirement for the job, but down the line you will have to learn it to obtain your citizenship.
      Quebec's immigrant selection system works on a weighted "points" system that affords enormous advantages to French-speakers. I myself would not obtain a selection certificate (with my University education) as an English-speaker alone; however, even without my University education, I would get my Selection Certificate. Forget for a minute that I'm perfectly bilingual, Yannick. This sort of discrimination is in my view insulting; the Federal government at least offers potential immigrants equal points for either language.

      Furthermore, any children you have will be learning the language when they attend the public schools since the subjects are taught in the national language.

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    4. A look at the Francophone communities outside Quebec might give you an idea of what Quebecers are afraid of.
      Perhaps, but the comparison is intellectually disingenuous. Quebec has less than a million "anglophones" in a province of 8 million. The real fear among at least the PQ is that post-101 Quebecers will taste the forbidden fruit of English and that there will be a large-scale abandonment of French, however gradual.

      Did you know that Anglophones aren't allowed to send their children to French schools in the Rest of Canada?
      Let's just say that there's at least one (not even officially bilingual) province that is (increasingly) taking a more pragmatic approach than Quebec currently does and it embarrasses me enormously as a Quebecer that we used to be a lot more open and that we aren't any more. I call this going backward as others go forward.

      Personally I think that allowing immigrants to attend a school system meant for a linguistic minority (and not the official language school system) is tantamount to accepting that children of immigrants do not learn the official language of the area
      I strongly disagree. And I think our current system in Canada is at odds with the rather noble goal of creating bilingual Canadians. We need to amend section 23 of the Canada Act (1982) to include a third -- bilingual -- group, with "bilingual" school boards created out of shared resources from existing boards, beginning in places across the country where French and English resources exist.

      ...will inevitably lead to assimilation of the last officially french jurisdiction in North America.
      See above. We need more bilingualism, not more unilingualism.

      I don't see why any jurisdiction with the power to prevent it would willingly allow themselves to disapear.
      You aren't familiar with the Quiet Revolution's effects on the Catholic Church in Quebec, or you're willingly choosing to overlook it. Alternatively, you're overlooking the anti-miscegenation laws passed by many U.S. states based on the fear that mixing with "niggers" would lead to the destruction of the pure White race. If history, circumstance, and evolution militate in favor of a shift in society, I don't think narcissistic existentialist rhetoric should be allowed to counter said shift.

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    5. Apparently another province (Saskatchewan) that seems to encourage people from the francophonie to study in French.

      Although the primary eligibility criteria appears stringent, as in Ontario, it seems that you can appeal to school boards to request and consider admission nonetheless...

      Same thing for Alberta.

      It seems my advocacy of free choice isn't lost on non-francophone parents in B.C. either. I hope they win their fight.

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    6. I'll take more time to answer you fully later, Apparatchik, but I wanted to point out one thing.

      It may just be my cynicism as a Rest-of-Canada francophone, but we've learned that whenever something was "bilingual", it was run in English.

      I'm not against inclusive bilingual schools - but the experiment has been made in the past with predictable results - Francophones learn English, Anglophones do not learn French, everything happens in English "so that everyone can understand", and we lose more of our relevance and heritage.

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    7. Quel outrage que les séparatistes québécois se moquent tellement des fransasquois…

      Incidentally, how many people know that "Saskatchewan" is a feminine noun? #Interested to learn more about Canada.

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    8. "Quel outrage que les séparatistes québécois se moquent tellement des fransasquois…"

      Pas seulement que les séparatistes,les fédéralistes,les anglos,etc.

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    9. Yannick!

      I don't know how more to stress the FACT that the "French schools" in QC are NOT French schools, they are QuébécoisSeparatistFactories! I don't care what language our children learn in. I care what hatred is instilled in them!!!
      While most people feel insulted for being denied access to one of our official languages, I know that the real damage is the hateful SocialEngineering!

      Who said, "We don't need you, we have your children!"

      Learning another language in this PROVINCE is the only way to at least, as a young adult, decipher for yourself, how OurCountry is being denied to us!
      As I told you in the past;
      To me, it feels like my leg is being sawed off, while I’m being told in a polite manner that the scrapes and bruises on my arms will heal.

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  37. FROM ED BROWN
    Rick, What I find amazing is that they won't give free French courses to the English people who already live here. They do it for immigrants but we have to pay. Then they moan about us not speakibg French.
    I'm 76 yrs old. I spend my summer on my front porch passing the time with my neighbours who pass each day. I say hello to the young islam father who walks with his baby tied to his chest.
    I talk to the 34 yr old Japanese who walks his dog twice a day. Or the teen chinese going to music school with his back pack. At least 20 others all immigrant who all speak to me in English.
    Now I always start the conversation in French
    but when they turn it to English I go along with it. The ones who speak French only are the single mothers sucking on a cigarette with a baby in her arms. The teens attending French high schools and the slobs going back and forth to the beer store. Ed

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    1. I hear you, however not all the French are slobs, there is good and bad in all. I do see a difference though in the students from the English schools compared with the French students from the French schools. I am willing to bet that the average English student will beat any average French student in a test, but I once asked myself why? when we are born, we are all the same, it's not that the French are dumb, they have the same ability as the English or any other group. So it must be the French school system right?, apparently not! in Quebec the English schools and the French schools are suppose to have the same material being taught to the students, so what is different? Well I truly believe that it is the way the child (student) is raised, I believe some of the French parents do not take their children's education seriously enough when compared to the English parents.Example, many French parents think it is not necessary for their children to learn English, they often say why should my child learn English, we are in Quebec. Little to they understand that in the world of business you should learn some English if you want to deal with clients outside of Quebec or with the rest of the world for that matter. Most of Quebec's business dealings is done with clients outside of the Province.I find that some of the French parents do not push their children well enough in the right direction, to achieve in school and study, do their homework and become highly educated young adults. I was with a French women for 12 years, she had a daughter from a previous relationship, I accepted her daughter as if she was my own. Her daughter was failing in school, year after year she was having difficulties, I asked her mother, why doesn't she ever have homework? I have never seen her study? why? her reply was, oh, well she does it at school.One Friday afternoon she came home from school with her report card,in all her classes she failed. The principal called and said she would have to repeat her year, just after that phone call her daughter wanted to go out with her friends to a movie, I said NO, this week-end you are grounded and I want to help you with your math, she immediately went to go and see her mother and said, "mom can I go out?", her mom said "sure, have fun." !!!???? (her mother knew of the bad report card) I couldn't believe it.

      Well that was a true story I wanted to share, to explain one of the reasons why I think some of the French parents do not take their children's education seriously enough, to help them achieve a higher level and give them the tools they will need in life to get a good job.

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    2. My family is mostly French, my family is a mix of French and English, we all get along well. We can all speak French and English and use both languages when we all get together.

      I just wanted to say that I'm sick and tired of all this French and English stuff in Quebec, why can't we all just live in peace with each other and accept each other with our differences, life is too short.

      The French in Quebec feel the necessity to ban the English language completely with no regard to any of the English living here.I lived here all my life, pay my taxes, and never asked for government aid such as unemployment or welfare. I paid my due's to society, and I still I don't have the same equal rights because I am an English speaking Quebecois. I have always been alienated by the French, why? because I am English. yes, I do speak French to them.

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  38. Mr. Smith wants to know what Pauline Marois has against the Englishphones... too funny!

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3l64b_laflaque-3d-pauline-marois-anglais_news

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  39. Patricia Hansen · Kirkland Lake
    We live in CANADA Not France where ENGLLISH is the first language we are MEMBERS OF THE COMMONWEALTH and serve the QUEEN someone should remind this french wh*re that.

    http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/straighttalk/archives/2012/08/20120814-080910.html?fb_comment_id=fbc_10151091766282438_23320435_10151099380142438#f240476c4

    J'adore ce genre de commentaire...légèrement empreint de racisme.

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    1. You can`t deny that the article is truthful. As dumb as it all sounds, every one of those things mentioned is what Marios intents to do.

      So one monarchist made a racist intolerant comment. Nothing worse then what I read in the comments section of Le Devoir.

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