Friday, August 31, 2012

How to Ruin a Long Weekend

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Will Pauline be smiling on Tuesday?
For many of us, it will be hard to enjoy this long weekend as we face down with grim acceptance the election coming up on Tuesday.

Usually Labour Day signifies the end of summer and perhaps it is prescient and symbolic that the glory days of summer are ending, morphing into Fall and onto the dreary days of Winter.

It's always sad when the summer ends, it's even sadder when political uncertainty becomes a certainty.

I don't know what a prisoner feels as he shuffles off to the gallows, but it must be emotions like these.
The palpable sense of doom, a stomach wrenching pit that is shared by most of us, making us feel as if we are that infernal 'Dead man walking.'

I shudder to think what five years of Pauline Marois will bring. Think of the idiots she brings along, like Drainville and Lisée, two fools who couldn't run a deppaneur.

Imagine these idiots trifling with your lives, it's enough to make one vomit.

The sad truth of the matter is that all the corruption in the world cannot hold a match to the financial disaster that awaits us as the unions, the students, and government workers run riot as Pauline empties the public purse to satisfy her constituency of takers.

One thing an election campaign provides, is a window where we can look in and see how extraordinarily stupid our politicians are, operating without the support of the real people who operate the government, the deputy ministers who wave their political bosses off one bonehead move from another.
The opposition doesn't even benefit from this sage advice and so, are ever more so prone to uttering political non sequiturs as demonstrated by Pauline, who delivered one stupidity after another.

And so it is always dangerous when politicians veer off from the neatly prepared text that their handlers work so diligently to prepare and ad lib their own thoughts, which more often than not,  shows them to be even more dimwitted than we thought.

Even Jean Charest, who I personally know to be highly intelligent with a fearsome memory is not immune to fits of fancy.

Every time a major politician speaks, there is a handler standing in the back, crossing his or her fingers that the candidate not speak their mind.

Mr Charest's desperate attempt to shore up support by proposing to apply Bill 101 to federal institutions was sadly transparent and Francois Legault has his moments of rank stupidity as well, just a few days ago, calling on doctors who leave the province to reimburse the government for the education that Quebecers paid for.
A wonderful idea if the government actually offered each of these doctors a job and I'm not talking about a job in Ungava Bay.
Most doctors leave BECAUSE THEY CANNOT GET A JOB!
It is sad that someone running for the top job does not know this.

And so we are faced with how to vote and for those off the island, voting for the CAQ may mean the difference between a PQ seat or CAQ seat.
On the island it doesn't make a difference as the Liberal puppets will be re-elected no matter what.

If federalist forces realize that the Liberal's goose is cooked, then a switch to the CAQ is merited, it may be the only strategy left.

Let us run down Tuesday's possibilities; 

SCENARIO #1 - A PQ MAJORITY
No doubt, the worst case scenario for us, but one where the Peekists will find in short order that while language issues got them elected, economic issues will be their undoing.
Once they get their oats off passing restrictive language legislation, the true disaster of Quebec's financial situation will bear down.
The elephant in the room is not only the debt, but the deficit.
While every political party based their budgetary program on the prediction that Quebec's economy would grow at about 2.5%, it isn't happening.
This year's predicted deficit of under two billion is close to being reached, this just four months into the year, as economic growth is actually in negative territory, something nobody will admit.
This means an additional two to three billion added to the deficit and if the PQ follows through with its election promises, another one or two billion would be added, bringing the total up to around six or seven billion, this year.

Like every incoming government before them, Pauline will take one look at the books and renege on the financial goodies package, claiming quite rightly that the Charest government lied about the finances and that the government cannot afford new spending.

As she seeks confrontation with Harper in the hope of riling up Quebecers and push them towards sovereignty, she will find  the PM to be polite, but non-committal and as the old saying goes, it takes two to tango.

The real test will come in 2013 when the Equaliztion program is up for renegotiation. If the feds scrap the program it would mean another five or six billion dollar loss to the budget, meaning that Quebec may very well be faced with running a ten billion deficit and no Pauline, even taxing the rich people at 100% of their income won't fill that gap.

How Montreal's real estate market will react remains to be seen, but over the near term I can see the condo market collapsing and I wouldn't want to be in the shoes of the developers bringing all those new buildings to market over the next two years.
If the PQ is elected your west island home will be worth 25% less on Wednesday.

It'll be worse than all this, but more another time.


SCENARIO #2 - A PQ MINORITY
Here things get interesting.
A PQ minority could easily be defeated by a CAQ /Liberal coalition, a more likely scenario than the CAQ supporting the PQ for very long. Under the CAQ/Liberal coalition, Legault would become the PM as he'd likely be the leader of the party that has the most seats between the two, notwithstanding the fact that Jean Charest may well be defeated in his own riding.

A CAQ/Liberal coalition would probably string the PQ government along for a few months before pulling the plug over a budget, so as to be seen as trying to work with the government and not to appear arrogantly setting aside a PQ government chosen by the people.
Defeating the government would not result in a new election as long as the coalition advises the Lieutenant-Governor that there is a coalition that is prepared to form a government and able to face the National Assembly.

SCENARIO #3 - A CAQ MINORITY
A CAQ minority government would be akin to a CAQ majority government with the Liberals having no other choice but to support the government at all costs and for many years.
This is the position that Michael Ignatieff and the federal Liberals found themselves in, before the last federal election, which they foolishly triggered themselves.
The lessons of that election and the utter decimation of the Liberals will be a sharp reminder to Charest or his successor not to trifle with elections when you are on a downward spiral.

If things pan out as predicted in the polls, the Liberals will remain with a dozen or so seats, half of them English/Allo.
If that happens, it would be natural that they defect to the CAQ, or form a splinter Anglo/Allo rights party, thus finishing off the Liberal party once and for all, something that is needed if we want to avoid electing a separatist government with 30% of the vote.

SCENARIO #4 - A LIBERAL MINORITY
The most unlikely of all the possibilities but one that may very well happen.
If so, The Liberals would need to seek a solid partnership with the CAQ in order to preserve any semblance of sustainability.
In the end, this government can't last that long, the ambitious CAQ has nowhere to go but up.


By the way, if the PQ wins a majority government it will certainly be because of the split federalist vote, but a special honourable mention must go to Prime Minister Harper who went out of his way these last few years to alienate Quebec and punish Mr. Charest.

There are many Quebecois soft nationalists who feel abandoned and pushed around  by Ottawa, discarded by Mr. Harper and it isn't just about money.
They may not want a referendum, but they do want someone to defend Quebec, something neither the Bloc or the Ndp were and are able to do.

If this view is shared by just 3-5 % of Quebec voters, it may be enough to give the PQ the victory.

Here's a ditty by Bowser and Blue, which has incorporated a couple of this blog's artwork.

I'm very proud; Please enjoy;

thanks to 'The Cat' for pointing the link out!

234 comments:

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    1. Not when used as a English word, where there are few diacritical marks.
      http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=deppaneur&sourceid=Mozilla-search
      The word has been adopted in English just like a gazillion English words are adopted in French where diacritical marks are added as needed.
      And please don't use anonymous to post comments.

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    2. Um, hello? It's neither dépanneur" or "deppaneur". It is a bloody called a convenience store, or corner store if you will. Stop speaking in gibberish slang, outside Quebec La La Land, that is precisely what it is.

      Seriously, never in my whole life as an anglophone living in Montreal have I called a corner store a DePaNnEuR. Please, stop trying to appease the Quebecois by imitating their unintelligible slang.

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    3. As I remarked previously, with the inevitable Second Exodus about to happen, someone should open a câsse croute just over the Ontario border, maybe within the Shell gas station just over the Ontario border. Only 5% tax on snacks under $4.00. Call it the Day Panner.

      The changing colours in the Credit River Valley, cutting through the western part of Mississauga are just beautiful in October. I just might see you there!

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    4. Oh...she will win because québécois are québécois while anglophones and allophones are Canadians. They live in Quebec, we live in the world. They speak Joual, we speak the world languages. They dislike us, we dislike them. We see the world as a unity, they see Quebec as the world. We aren't and will never be on the same wavelength. Just accept that we are different from them because it happens to be like that.

      Second Exodus? I look forward to leaving this province which is doomed, hopeless: it's a comatose province slowly approaching death, that is, a complete financial disaster. Let them wallow in their own particular world: the reality always kicks in and, when it starts producing real effects, it will over for them. But not for us. Shouldn't you rejoice, Mr. Sauga??

      WA

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    5. WA - there will probably be a 'mini-exodus', much to the S.Rs of Quebec happiness. They truly dislike everybody unlike them, being race, heritage, name.

      Not long ago, one of my friends living in Rive Sud was telling me that his son, born here, is being picked on at school because of his family name that does not sound 'local', and the teachers not doing anything to stop that. And I am not talking about some god-forsaken town called st-something-of-the-something, it's Rive-Sud, where you'd expect people being used to immigrants by now.

      Yannick might be in for some rude awakening if he moves to Mtl. While in university, I had a colleague from NB telling me how surprised she was to find out she was never French enough for her Quebecois 'friends' and was considered part of the others. I sincerely hope her case was an exception and Yannick won't have negative surprises.

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    6. I AM rejoicing! Ex Montrealers have an impact on the GTA, just like all the other ethnic groups.

      Interestingly, I was on the Toronto Subway yesterday as my car was in the shop. It was packed like sardines, but thankfully the subway has air conditioning. When the car I was in cleared out a bit, there was a sticker that discussed how the TTC recognizes Toronto's diversity and every employee and customer has the right, and is to be treated with dignity. Below is the address and telephone number of the Ontario Human Rights Commission. It's only too bad the CTCUM hasn't adoped a similar code following the example of the TTC, and then post it in the trains, the customer service booths and the stations. Meh...the racist employees would just ignore it pounding their mighty chests like the apes they are roaring how they don't have to speak English, the cretins that they are!

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    7. Me too, Mr. Sauga, I am rejoicing. Once I am out of this white francophone utopia, they can do whatever they want in their swamp...They will not last long as they have neither money nor plans.

      WA

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    8. @Ahnona Moose : Why is the Quebecois language retarded? I guess that everything that isn't English is retarded for you!

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    9. ...and shit for brains!

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  2. The idea of any sovereignist government sends shivers up my spine. Be it CAQ or PQ, either government will do anything it takes to restrict anglophone rights and will probably do anything it takes for a refendum (or referenda). The economy is not the CAQ's top priority, it is, and always has been separatism. Don't be fooled into voting for a separatist party. The only real differences between the PQ and the CAQ have nothing to do with the issues of separation or language.

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  3. Take it for what its worth but a leaked Liberal internal poll has 30% caq 29% lib 28% racist.
    Dewey Defeats Truman?

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    1. 30, 29 and 28? Holy smokes. We might be looking at Quebec's first electoral tie.

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    2. In this sort of election with three nearly equal pieces of the pie, it truly is anybody's race, and the Dewey situation could happen...but don't hold your collective breath! Goldilocks has defied history once already with three mandates, and even if the PLQ wins, its leader won't, or his chances are slim. He won the last two times by the skin of his dentures, and unless, like Charlie Sheen, he has 88 horseshoes up his ass, his Lac Brome goose is cooked!

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  4. A Mr. Sauga Original OpinionFriday, August 31, 2012 at 4:17:00 AM EDT

    OK, I've responded to the opinion of others, so now it's time for my own opinion.

    I left Quebec coming on 28 years ago, having planned my departure ten years before actually doing so. I was an adolescent then and figured I could get a cheap worthwhile education as my final curtain call. As the Editor wrote in the last edition, I pulled a 'mistersauga'!

    Well, why the hell not? I didn't see an enjoyable future in Quebec for I predicted a scenario would take place somewhere in my working years; furthermore, I felt opportunities would be limited what with a public sector that would not welcome me, and enough private sector employers wanting fluent French.

    My life partner's bro-in-law, now in his mid-40s feels trapped. He has a position in a large headhunter's office that is clerical and not paying a spectacular wage. He has taken university level French, does OK, but can't convert it to Joual spoken in Quebec, and so he has probably won't be able to improve his lot in life. His wife who works in a daycare earns more than he does! They are West Islanders and they have a young daughter who is flourishing in French immersion. Très bien, but she'll probably leave Quebec when it comes down to deciding on a career. The debt in Quebec by then will be about $350 billion if not more, jobs will be scarce, esp. for those with non-French sounding names, and if you think Quebec's taxes are high now....wait!

    In addition to all the foregoing, I figured some election in the future would be a day of reckoning, and I think this is it. I'm just surprised it took this long to happen, but I'm still working, so in Quebec for me this would likely have been a disaster.

    There were always events taking place in Quebec that at least in my mind continually fortified and satisfied my reasons for leaving when I did. I'll still say that in some ways Toronto is no Montreal, but in other essential ways Montreal is no Toronto.

    While Toronto's fortunes currently are not the best, there is far more money in Toronto than in Montreal, so hopefully investment will improve the future here with all that private money. I find the climate here better. The main climate difference here is winters are shorter, less snowy, and there are more sunny days. It's not Shangra-La here, but I'll take less snow anytime.

    Oh...and there are a couple of good delis for smoked meat and a St-Viateur renegade started the Bagel House with several locations. Not quite as good as St-V, but lessens the need to fill a hankering for St-V and a six hour drive.

    An old Aislin cartoon shows a caricature of Camille Laurin looking at his English audience stating "You paranoid, silly English. You will all look back on this and laugh in Etobicoke, Calgary and Coquitlam!"

    Etobicoke (pronounced "Etobico") is now part of the amalgamated City of Toronto (where amalgamation actually works) in the west end of Toronto, and my Mississauga, is west of the Etobicoke Creek, a short bridge gap away. Hey...I'm laughing!

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  5. FROM ED BROWN I say the Liberals will come out a lot better than we think. Fortunately, there is only one God and he belongs to us. Ed

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  6. After this campagne, anybody who votes for the PQunt cannot claim that they are not RACIST.... They will have blood on their hands, when the act of PQ incited HATE happens.

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  7. "By the way, if the PQ wins a majority government it will certainly be because of the split federalist vote, but a special honourable mention must go to Prime Minister Harper who went out of his way these last few years to alienate Quebec and punish Mr. Charest."

    Does anyone blame him for having this attitude after Charest's comments in Cophenhagen and the debacle of 2008 federal election where Quebec kicked Harper in the teeth over a few million in cultural credits. I guess you reap the seeds you sow. Will be interesting how Marois and her band of idiots get along with the feds. I suspect, the editor is right and Harper and CO. will just ignore Quebec.

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  8. OMG = she is the worst bigot ever = any really sane person can see we are headed for REAL problems should she get a majority. I know Mr. Charest has not ended up being our Capt Canada but he is our only real option in this mess of an election. I still think he is an honest man trying to do a good job but is between a rock and a hard place. I don't envy him in the least. We have to fight back and not let this woman and her PQ party impose these CRAZY, BIGOTED, HATEFUL laws on a province that is definitely headed for ruin. Who will ever want to move here? Our land will be valueless, our schools will be empty and our tax base gone. Wonderful week ahead. Ed - still with you on hope!

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    2. Didn't you say you live in the Aylmer/Hull/G---eau region (notice how they used the French named town for amalgamation?), call Bekins and move across the river. Remember Bekins' motto: "It's the smartest move you'll ever make!"

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  9. "I still think he is an honest man..."

    C'est quoi vos la marque de vos céréales...J'en veux! :)

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  10. "It's deja vu all over again" Yogi Bera. As we inch closer to another PQ victory the only silver lining I can see, from a personal perspective, is that the typical Nationalist fervor on the streets I've witnessed in previous elections, isn't there this time. You don't hear people talking about referendums or separation and you don't see any Quebec flags or PQ placards hanging from balconies. I walk my dogs around the neighbourhood (Lasalle/Verdun) every night and other than the occasional hydro pole election sign, you'd be hard pressed to find any hint of an election going on.
    I was hoping the newer generation of Québécois would shy away from the identity politics of division the PQ represents, but it's starting to look like they have embraced it. Fear is a very powerful motivating factor and the PQ are masters at it (much like the Republicans down South). The core 30% of diehard Separatists that support the PQ, regardless of what they spew, is all they need to carry this election.

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  11. If we're leaving Quebec, we should bring Montreal with us. If we can't get a major political party to support our rights, we need to start our own.

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    1. Hey EDM and LordDorchester = Don't forget Gatineau, the Pontiac and probably the Eastern Townships. We have to create a Partition Party immediately after this election. I'm no politician but I'm sure there are people in each area of those wanting to leave Quebec and create our own Canadian province, that will take up the gauntlet. It's time to let those that want to leave go = good wishes and all that but AGAIN WE'RE NOT ALL GOING WITH THEM. Trouble ahead to convince these idiots that OUR LAND IS OUR LAND, NOT THEIRS.

      Get out and vote Liberal on Tuesday - it's so important to get the rational vote out there!

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    2. I think we can count out the Eastern Townships.

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    3. What effin Eastern Townships?????????? They vote PQ in Sherbrooke !!!! Quit the bullshit...it's like we're all masochists. We love to suffer. In 40 years not a true political party for anglos/allos. NOTHING ! So again, cut the bullshit, we deserve to be bullied !

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    4. Isn't S.R from Sherbrooke? If he's any indication of the people there, then no thanks.

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    5. This is a map (click to expand) that shows mother tongue, including English majority areas, as it appears on the Quebec Wikipedia page.

      While you’re there, you may want to also skim the Partition of Quebec article as you sip your Earl Grey tea and nibble on crumpets, scones or cucumber sandwiches. ;-)

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  12. @ TS the southern parts of the eastern townships have many anglos maybe even a majority. Actually a large number of anglos live near Lacolle to phillipsburg. I wonder if the kahnawake natives and the ones at OKA would also want to belong to a new partitioned territory.

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    1. OMG - the separatists will NEVER take Indian Land without physical violence. The Indians have made it very clear that their land will never remain in a separate Quebec. The treaties they now have with Quebec are made under Canadian law. They had their own referendum in 1995 and if I remember correctly, they were like the Outaouais, in that they voted 95% no. And they're not like us = they don't take the bullying that we have put up with over the last 35/40 years and would most certainly create their own province or join us that want to create our own province within Canada.

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    2. "they don't take the bullying that we have put up with over the last 35/40 years"

      This is true, both for QC Natives for whom I have great respect, and for QC Anglos on whom I have a very ambiguous view, though I do recognize that they have been put in a very precarious position, and that Ottawa has turned its back on them.

      In one of his books the half-Franco half-Anglo author William Johnson described QC as a province inhabited by a Franco population living in fear of the continental majority, and an Anglo population living in fear of the provincial majority. Essentially, this is a province inhabited by paranoiacs.

      No wonder the choices I made while living here led to the end result where most of my friends today are allophones.

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    3. Que diriez-vous de laissez vos livres de coté et d'établir de réels contacts avec les Québécois en s'adressant à eux dans leur langue?Vos chances d'intégration et de bonnes relations avec votre environnement élargie seraient multipliées par 10.

      À moins que celà ne vous intéresse pas ou encore pire,vous laisse totalement indifférent.Ne reproduisez pas les erreurs de ces auteurs théoriciens à l'origine de vos lectures,c'est à dire Regarder le Québec d'en haut et ne jamais faire l'effort de s'y intégrer vraiment.

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    4. "s'y intégrer vraiment"

      Sure, by becoming obstinately unilingual like you? No, thanks. I prefer leaving...

      WA

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    5. "The Indians have made it very clear that their land will never remain in a separate Quebec."

      Laissez-nous négocier avec les indiens,on les connait bien,ça fait plus de 400 ans que nous traitons avec eux ;)

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    6. dude...it's mesmerizing how you refer to yourself as if you mean something: "Laissez-nous", "nous traitons avec eux ;)"

      do you think that if one day the gov will have to negotiate something YOU will be asked?

      i know, YOU means YOU ALL, as in seppies. No YOU will not be asked by anybody anything because you don't matter. like you thought you will be able to start a referendum only by signing a petition... LOL

      YOU don't understand that YOU live in an alternate reality where nobody gives a shit about you...YOU ARE SHEEP that's it that's all you poor guy you !

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    7. Michael, you have hit the nail on the head… every time we hear “nous” being pronounced by people such as this, it’s quite clear who they are referring to… obviously, it’s the ethnocentric “nous” exclusively… which makes me ashamed that they think all francophones are Quebecers and all Quebecers are francophones…

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    8. I had a pet peeve in my early years in Quebec... "ici on est au quebec, etc, etc" or "ici, chez nous, etc..." - from the neighbour next door to some party guests. I haven't heard it that often though, maybe because I changed my entourage.

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    9. S.R., we live in a democracy called Canada. Quebec Anglophones and allophones have no obligation to integrate into French culture and, indeed, telling it like it is, have no desire to do so and have no interest in French culture. Why should they? Their mother tongue is English, they feel part of North America. There are two solitudes. All Anglophones and allophones want is to be left alone and not be harassed by separatist bigots who want to make life so uncomfortable for the anglophones and allophones that they will either integrate and be assimilated or leave Quebec. The best thing an anglophone or allophone can do is to leave Quebec and let the separatists face a financial hell which awaits them. People like you are just deluded by your separatist politicians who, like politicians everywhere, are only interested in perpetuating themselves in power and will do or promise anything to do so. Most politicians are mediocrities who could never earn the salaries they earn in the private sector. It is suckers like you who believe what they tell you.

      In any event, there is insufficient support for separation. The PQ cannot even win an election with majority support and that is with lies being told to suckers like you and Michel Patrice who fantasize about the glories that await you in a sovereign Quebec just like the brainwashed jihadists dream about the virgins who await them in heaven when they die a martyr's death.

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    10. S.R Says:

      "The Indians have made it very clear that their land will never remain in a separate Quebec."

      Laissez-nous négocier avec les indiens,on les connait bien,ça fait plus de 400 ans que nous traitons avec eux ;)

      REALITY DICTATES:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAlzJnaETg0

      "Those people"

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  13. PQiste candidate Drainville gets grilled on Quebec City radio over 101 in Cegep. The starting point is the interviewer saying he's planning on sending his kid to St-Lawrence Cegep and asks by what right do pequistes want to interfere with this choice, and the choices of many other young adults.

    http://www.radioego.com/ego/listen/11750

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    1. Vous avez oubliez de mentionner qu'il s'agit d'une radio-poubelle (trash radio) de Québec.

      Adski ne connait vraiment rien du Québec...Une radio-poubelle comme référence MDR!

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    2. You are in denial and denial produces illusions. Illusions produce disappointment...that's why your comments are always angry and full of hatred: you are done and you know it...

      WA

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    3. La plus grande illusion menant à une grave déception serait de croire que les "liberals" ont toujours de chances :

      Vous êtes cuits et vous le savez!

      Une victoire libérale est «impossible», juge François Legault

      http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/elections-quebec-2012/201208/31/01-4570047-une-victoire-liberale-est-impossible-juge-francois-legault.php

      Bonne chance quand même :)

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    4. Amazing interview… PQ dude totally got raked over the coals! And still more typical deflection and subterfuge from our resident troll who is unable to debate like an adult.

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  14. haha, this blog has said since a long time Pauline has no chance of being PM yet she's likely going to get majority now. Chill out anglo's, no one is taking away your rights, you have it pretty good afterall. Try being a francophone out west and getting services in French. Ya right!
    Tuesday, we take first step to making our country after all these years,join us please! GO PQ!

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  15. Editor,

    First of all I would like to sincerely apologize of hijacking your blog for my own personal note.

    All,

    I lost my job several months ago. I was an IT Project Manager for a very well-known national organization in Montreal. My termination did not have anything to do with politics or with Montreal / Quebec. Just as it entered the economic downturn, the company reorganized itself. I found that my position was outsourced to India. From the company point of view it was a logical move to make, I suppose, since my rate was 3 times that of an Indian. All that the Indian manager needed to do was to fix his working schedule to match Eastern Time Zone.

    After a period of looking for job, I was finally faced with three options. First was a rather interesting and unique job in Moose Jaw, the second was a job similar with what I did in Toronto, the third one was a radically different thing in the Middle East. All three pay about the same but with different perks.

    This week the decision is finally made. I am moving to Toronto. I will start the new job in October. My wife and child stay behind for 10 months until August 2013, getting our affairs in order before we all move.

    It is a rather bittersweet decision for me. I have tried for 7 years to survive and to thrive in Montreal. Like I wrote many times, I like the city. I tried my hardest to stay in the city, but now the question is about our livelihood. Therefore, there is no option anymore for me but to move. That it happens to be Toronto I think is a coincidence since I did look for a job almost everywhere.

    And so I will fly there next month and I will do the 'drive down 401' ritual so many before me have done next year. Even though my move has nothing to do with current political situation in Quebec, I somehow feel relieved that I do not have to endure what Quebec will almost certainly face in the near future.

    For S.R and his number of alter-egos, let me offer this. You win. I am leaving. I hope you are happier now that at least one regular member of this blog finally follow your imperative that we who do not like to speak French to leave the province. You and those like you win.

    Because of my moving, I will change the way I post here. First is I will reduce how often I make comments. Second is I will change the tones of my comments. I think I will avoid making direct complaint about living in the province. Maybe I will just make some comparisons with other places and provide the data. I just do not feel it to be morally right to make lengthy opinion (particularly the bad one) about the province if I do not live in the province.

    So wish me luck as I certainly wish that our family's luck will be better in Toronto than in Montreal. Speaking of which, is anybody interested in a large 3-bedroom 2-bathroom apartment in Ville St-Laurent? It is available for sale or lease next year.

    PS: As my parting vote, I would like to vote for PQ and see how it goes from there. Too bad that Christine St-Pierre is too strong in my riding. Wasting my vote to PQ will not mean anything.

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    1. Troy,

      early this morning reading the Editor's post I thought of you and had in my mind to ask you if you decided what to do. I am slowly coming at the same decision you came to... unfortunately. But such is life.

      I wholeheartedly wish you good fortunes and I dunno... as the saying goes, see you on the other side.

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    2. There is one other point I forgot to mention. I certainly will miss going to the games of the Alouettes, the Impact and the Canadiens. There is no way in heaven or hell will I change my fandom to the Argos, the TFC or the Leafs.

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    3. Good luck in Toronto, Troy.

      Did look for a job in Québec City? Low unemployment rate, many job in IT, affordable housing.

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    4. Good luck to you and your family ..I am positive you will do very well

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    5. My, my...Michel Patrice took some time out from knocking on doors for the Pequistes in order to write on this blog.

      Troy would have no chance in hell of finding a job in Quebec City. He's not a white, Roman Catholic Francophone!

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    6. I am trying to figure out if MP is being a smartass or just daft.

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    7. "He's not a white..."

      Ces chances sont donc limitées partout en amérique du Nord.

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    8. TS, probably he's being a combination of both... it's pretty obvious that Quebec City is not especially open to the non-francophone world.

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    9. M. Patrice,

      Did look for a job in Québec City? Low unemployment rate, many job in IT, affordable housing.

      I did. Jobs in Quebec City are mostly government-types. While unemployment may be low, opportunities are also low. As of jobs in IT, I did not see any of it. Where did you find such jobs to support your "many job in IT" statement? I did not find anything in Quebec outside of Montreal that fitted my experience and my rate. Unless you know otherwise, of course.

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    10. On the one hand, Troy, sorry you lost your job, but my employer too purged Canadian IT support staff for Indian workers, so it's obviously the trend. On the other hand, once you live in Toronto, you'll never go back to Montreal. A provincial election now is 3 years away, but when it comes about, you'll see how boring it is compared to Quebec elections, but I for one am thankful for that. There's more to life than politics...except in Quebec.

      You'll see properly structured and paved roads, better schools for your kids, better hospitals and pristine parks, esp. by the water. The downside: Expensive housing, mediocre restaurants, the Leafs, the Toronto FC and the Argos. The Jays are for the most part an entertaining team, but they had a lot of bad luck this year losing three starting pitchers in a short time, and their best hitter now has to have surgery to fix his wrist. Better luck next year. The GM is an ex-Montrealer. Very young fellow with a good head for baseball on his shoulders. Hopefully he'll strike pay-dirt in a couple of years.

      Just give the city a chance. I don't know exactly where your work is, but I find Mississauga is un-Toronto. It's North America's largest suburb (about 1,000,000 people now) and with the mix of people, its own downtown area, and it's an intersting place. If you have a little more affluence, you may want to look at Oakville. Anyway, you'll find your place in good time. Oh, and winters are shorter here and less severe. Better live entertainment, too!

      Best of luck. I hope you like it. I think you will.

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    11. Sauga, , there are numerous outstanding restaurants in Toronto, far more than in Montreal. I eat in them with local and foreign clients and friends all the time.

      On another note, II see that Patrice has emerged from his electioneering for the PQ just in time to answer some questions which he has avoided doing so to date.

      Michel Patrice, do you support all of the policies the nutcase Marois has announced during her campaign? If not, which specific policies of hers do you not agree with?

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    12. Troy,

      Good luck to you. you will soon find that you are a very contented person free from the stress of living in the lunatic asylum that Quebec is. Toronto is a wonderful city in which to live, where unlike Quebec, diversity is celebrated and competency is valued over ethnicity. I have lived and worked in several major cities and Toronto ranks right up there. In life, time passes very quickly. Life is meant to be enjoyed. The quality of life in Toronto is far superior to that in Montreal. Language problems are non-existent. You will not wake up each and have to endure yet another story on language, as has happened in the last 50 years. Why live among a group of people where a substantial number of them hate the very thought of your existence? It may be hard for you to understand at present, but in time you will come to view the loss of your job as a blessing in disguise.

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    13. M. Patrice,

      I am still waiting (in vain, I know) for your evidence that there are "many IT jobs" in Quebec City. As far as I know, there are IT jobs in Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, even Kitchener-Waterloo. I never heard about the abundance of IT jobs in Quebec City. Please explain.

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  16. Good luck Troy and hope (wish) you luck trying to get rid of that apartment given the current political climate. That is what all of us have to worry about - bankruptcy at the mercy of the SR a------- in the province. They want to steal our land and give it to the next batch of fanatics - please do us a favour and vote Liberal before you go. That is our only chance for some stability in the next 5 years. Don't know what party Christine St-Pierre is from.

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    1. Christine St-Pierre is the incumbent Minister of Culture and Communications and Status of Women.

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    4. I don't live in your area of Quebec but I know my own representative and follow her activities through our local papers. I have never seen anything in print concerning Christine Saint Pierre but I don't make a practice of studying all the portfolios of all the offices in the Quebec National Assembly. I'm not a politician and don't pretend to be. I am a Canadian and proud of that fact and follow more of the Federal politics than the crazy Quebec politics. Where I live, the incumbent will retain her seat.

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    5. And there was no need to be snotty if that's what you were attempting. If not, that's how it came off to me.

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  17. Troy, super good luck for you and your family!
    Do not hate quebecois or bear grudge against them: they are worth zero and zero plus zero is always zero.

    WA

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  18. Dear Troy,
    I am not going to tell you that I am feeling bad for you, it may just be the best thing that ever happens to you.
    Many of us love our community and want nothing more than to stay.
    Many want to leave but are stuck for various reasons.
    Many want to stay but are forced to leave.


    I well understand the emotions, my son and his family were forced to leave Quebec for employment purposes and I while my wife and I remain bitterly disappointed at being separated from them (especially the grandchildren), I cannot help on an intellectual level believing they are better off.

    I would like you to contact me through email, as I have something private to ask, if you will.

    anglomontreal@gmail.com.

    I do wish you luck and know that I speak for almost everybody on this blog who also want you and your family to find peace and prosperity, even if it is elsewhere.

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    1. Troy, if it's any consolation, I've recently pulled the plug on Quebec as well.

      I've been in Toronto for the last couple of weeks and decided that I will not be going back. The ladyfriend is packing things up right now as we speak.

      Another point of consolation is that you'll be paying far less in taxes and though racism exists everywhere, I think we all know that Toronto doesn't come anywhere close to what's in Québec.

      See, of all the social debates going on in Ontario right now, none of them are on this level: http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2012/08/30/la-haine-du-quebec-prise-deux

      Sophie Durocher suffers from a severe mental disability and is deliberately trying to stir the shit. She cites that the Anglo media paints all Québécois as racists, when in fact, they're only writing about the seps, who are at the core of all the province's woes.

      But hey...it's not our problem anymore, Troy.

      I can't begin to tell you what a breath of fresh air it is to be in an environment that isn't caked with the frenetic degree of polarity that affects Québec.

      In Ontario, you can safely start a business or buy property without the worry that one of the provincial parties will call a referendum and chop 40% of the value in your investment.

      And once the move is complete, I will never move back to my home province again.

      As for S.R and his inevitable comments about him winning because those of us who oppose sovereignty are leaving...we'll see if you're still laughing in 3 or 4 years...when the welfare system has been bled dry...

      ...when you can no longer get a job as a dishwasher because restaurants can't stay open.

      To all the other readers on this blog, I'll still visit, but honestly, it actually feels better to ignore what's going on east of the 401.

      I might even vote PQ on my way out to show S.R how "awesome" this party's policies really are.

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    2. With our move out of Qc, I also see the S.Rs winning - the Charlie Sheen-type of winning.

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    3. Yes, it's sad but you have to do what's best for you and your families. If my family did not live so close to me, I too would want to leave. The SRs of the world are the idiots - not us.

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      Hi Gang! First of all, as I've written before, please let S.R. rant his fingers off. Don't give him a wall to bounce his ball, i.e., ignore his rants because answering him just encourages him to write even more.

      Secondly, and unfortunately, Charlie Sheen IS winning! I think he has been signed up for 90 episodes of his new show, so it's either a shoo-in he'll be doing that show for at least four years, or get paid even if it flops. Never saw a man with better luck. The last actor I heard about that was as wreckless as he is was Errol Flynn. He was a hard-drinking hard-partying womanizer and he dropped dead at 50. Sheen is approaching that age. Some people like to live hard and on the edge.

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      Finally, unlike Charlie Sheen, S.R. and those of his ilk won't have that kind of luck. As Editor mentioned, it will take lots 'n' lotsa babies to maintain Quebec's demographic right where it is. It was La revanche des berceaux (revenge of the cradles) in the mid 1700s that enabled Quebec to gain this French White Roman Catholic dominance. The Church did a stupendous job of keeping that ilk of the population ignorant and pregnant for a full 200 years. Politicians like Duplessis did what they could to perpetuate this scheme as well, because it served HIM well!

      Now the whole strategy is, after 200 years of suspended animation and a 50+ year bonus of that last generation living out their lives, the game is coming to an unhappy end for those who support a homogenous French white Roman Catholic state. It's not as if these people are going to die, for if they want to maintain this so-called "culture" they have, it's their will and motivation to do so that will carry this "culture". If they lose it over the generations, will they die? Will they be nobodies? It's ludicrous!

      I'm Jewish. My ascendants were Eastern Europeans, Ashkenazi Jews who spoke a common bastardized language called Yiddish. All my grandparents spoke it, but my parents did not teach it to my brother and me. Sadly, I think my parent's generation abused it as a barrier to speak in private in front of us, or they didn't see the purpose of teaching it to us. Let's face it, we're not the European nomads of generations past, so its need has deteriorated. There are those who are motivated to preserve it, so some gated ultra religious Jewish communities and sects will retain it as their "common" language. My life partner and I are secular Jews and choose not to live like pheasants under glass, or isolated from the world. Does that make me less Jewish? Some ultra orthodox sects say it does. They have their opinions and views, I have mine. We nevertheless maintain certain traditions and rituals because they are of interest to us and they remind us of who we are and where we come from, but we don't need to inflict them on anyone else to maintain our identity.

      Ashkenazic Jews are from Central and Eastern Europe, Sephardic Jews are those of the Mediterranean, including Spain, North Africa and the Middle East. Most of them do not or did not speak Yiddish. Their prayer services vary greatly from the Ashkenazic, they follow certain rituals differently and consider some foods fit to eat during certain holy observances that Ashkenazic do not. As far as I'm concerned, if you're Jewish, you're part of the brotherhood regardless of the language you speak or your degree of secularism or observation of the religion. The State of Israel is ruled by secular law, and that enables everybody to observe Judaism their way.

      Why the Quebec majority can't keep their politics confined to start at their property line and end at their neighbour's property line is beyond me, but this is why Israel is such a success where sand dunes were converted into a civilization and Quebec will ruin itself to dirt. Too bad, really, because despite the ugly politics, I do miss annual pilgrimages to the Laurentians and Townships to see the fall colours and other things my family used to do as part of the pilgrimages. Oh, well...

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    6. Sauga, well said. I can relate very much to what you wrote. The separatists can never understand or grasp what our brotherhood is. Our grandparents came to Quebec , Canada from Europe and could not speak English or French. By the dint of hard work they survived financially and managed to raise children who prospered. Concurrently, the francophones viewed them with suspicion at best. Their children in some instances and their grandchildren in numerous other instances left Quebec for places where far greater opportunities to excel abounded. Quebec with its insularity was deprived of the enormous skills of those who departed and saw its tax base erode. Even today, after the great exodus from Montreal in the seventies and eighties, there are more and more Montrealers who will be leaving because they can no longer tolerate living in a fascist state. This time even some francophones are leaving, unwilling to live in a welfare state that cannot sustain itself except through increases in taxes.

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    7. John: I have written many, many times about the arrival of my grandparents with little more than what they could carry speaking neither official language upon their arrival and setting up home. My maternal grandfather, followed by his son, my uncle, were particularly entrepreneurial and successful.

      A week or two ago on this blog, the editor attached an interview the editor of the Suburban had with a CTV Montreal news reporter who rightfully mentioned the 20% of the minorities who live in Quebec contribute to 40% of Quebec's tax base yet are alienated the most, even by the so-called federalist Liberals. Like former politician Robert Libman has written, every time (soon-to-be former) Premier John James "Goldilocks" Charest talks about how he is the only true representative of the minorities, I want to puke, and so does Libman. He has come out in support of the CAQ. When it's all said and done, that really is pathetic, but that's what (soon-to-be former) Premier John James "Goldilocks" Charest incites. He's just another «Québécois pur laine», sad to say.

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    8. Sauga, what Charest is is a typical politician whose only true goal is to perpetuate himself in power. As such, he will do whatever it takes to achieve his goal, including screwing the anglophone population if it gains him votes. All politicians are alike. It is disheartening to see the suckers who believe in what politicians say. That is why Michel Patrice and S.R. Are suckers. They have a dream which is actually a fantasy incapable of realization. You are undoubtedly aware of the ancient Chinese curse: may your dreams come true. Disaster awaits an independent partitioned Quebec. Unfortunately they will bring down the non-separatist portion of the Quebec population with them. Anyone with financial expertise knows that an independent Quebec would be a financial disaster. The exit of Quebec from Canada would not be a negotiation; it would be on take it or leave it terms from the ROC.

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  19. Troy your thoughts, be them long or short are important.
    I'm here for all perspective's be it Regional or National.
    People who remain in Quebec need our support,
    they should see how you make out regardless of why you have to go.
    You'll do great!

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  20. I’m not sure who will win the election, but if it is not the PQ, we are just postponing the inevitable. It would almost be preferable to deal with it now.

    At some point, they will form a government. They will then have little choice but to hold a referendum in the first mandate. They don’t want to risk not holding one, and then being run out of office the following election. The hardliners would never accept such a possibility.

    Also, time is not on their side. As mentioned, the French are ageing fast. An old person craves security. A majority will not want to risk a comfortable retired life for some political change that, frankly, will not change anything in their day-to-day, but risks costing them a lot.

    And, as the allophone community increases, those votes will, in the majority, go no. So, time is not on the nationalist side. Each passing year reduces their chances of winning. We are closing in on their last chance to separate, and very likely, it has already passed.

    In sum, a PQ majority election almost certainly means a referendum.

    Is this bad ? Obviously, it will be divisive. No question. But will the separatists win ? It’s not impossible, but it’s unlikely. Far too many have moved on, the economics are far too precarious for an independent Quebec, and at its base, only about 35% truly support it.

    A third referendum loss will be the symbolic end. Although there is obviously no rule, most people emotionally link three strikes to being out and over with.

    Once a third loss is in the books, we might finally be able to move on and have normal, intelligent and progressive debates about the nature of society, the role of government and where we want to go.

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    1. Apparently, the support for independence has dropped to 28% (oh boy!), according to the latest CROP poll.

      http://ca.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idCABRE87U0KW20120831

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    2. Still won't stop that nut - she, for sure, will pick some kind of stupid argument with Harper, get everyone riled up and go for, hopefully, the last stupid referendum. The tweaking of Bill 101 is going to get that fight going. I so hope that we don't all sit around this time and take any more of this BS. If I have to, I will rent a wheelchair to join the march to get the point across that we've had enough of her bigotry. I have already written to Mr. Charest and Mr. Harper re: the imposition of Bill 101 in federal buildings across Quebec plus signed petitions to companies that are not providing English signage, through the Quebec Office of the English Language. I'M so sick of being held hostage by these separatists but this has been my home for 60 years and I'm damned if they're going to force me out without a fight! Please, everyone start writing letters to these people and let's get a letter campaign going. We have to start somewhere and now seems to be the right time. Let's stand up for our rights for a change!

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  21. "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities."

    ─Ayn Rand

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    1. As with all things there needs to be a compromise between the rights of individuals and the rights of collectivities.

      For instance the Ayn Rands of this world viewed taxation as coercion, but in the interest of everyone there is no other way to finance essential services like infrastructure, police, firemen, etc...

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    2. Harvey est sur les dents :)

      Bonne nouvelle:Il nous a promis de ne jamais revenir au Québec.

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    3. Yann, are you a fun guy at a house party?

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    4. You're a fountain of knowledge, that's all.

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    5. Yannick, taxation has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Obviously there are instances where essential services are required. That has nothing to do with the specious argument that collective rights gives a majority the right to repeal English as an official language. There can be no compromise where civil liberties are at stake. If the English majority in your beloved New Brunswick decided to repeal French as an official language or if the Parliament of Canada decided to repeal the Official Languages Act in the name of collective rights you would not be a happy camper. It appears that you and Michel Atrice are on the same page and are kindred spirits as far as civil liberties goes.

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    6. John, er, Joy, how's life post-surgery?

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      I did not bring up anything about repealing English, please stop with your straw man. I'm discussing Ayn Rand.

      Ayn Rand and her followers are against pension plans, public education, the minimum wage, maximum work hours, safety regulations, and the illegality of Child Labour. Don't even get into national healthcare or income taxes. All of the above were deemed to be infringing on "individual rights" - and the quotation must be seen in that light.

      But of course in a rational society there must be a compromise between someone's 'freedom' to not get taxed and our need for roads. By almost anyone's standards Ayn Rand is a complete nut job on the scale of Amir Khadir but on the other end of the scale.

      To be honest I'm not sure why you're bringing Language and Quebec into this. It's entirely irrelevant.

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    8. Yannick, I am bringing language into this, as you say, because this is a blog about Anglophones in Quebec and language is at the heart of that. When you refer to collective rights it is only reasonable to conclude that you are invoking the concept of Michel Patrice and his separatist friends, namely, that the majority has the right to suppress the minority in the name of the collectivity. If you are not referring to that, then it is a debate on another subject which really has nothing to do with the point of this blog. If the Editor is willing to permit this blog to expand to discuss the philosophy of Ayn Rand, I do not mind.

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    9. The thing is, individual rights are associated with freedom and collective rights are associated with social control. Individual rights infer equality before the law and protection from the state. Group rights have a negative connotation as a result of apartheid, for example, which divided society into groups and created first and second class citizens.

      Obviously, Ayn Rand was at one extreme, asserting that groups have no rights and that only individuals could possess rights. By joining a group, she believed one can neither acquire more rights nor lose any existing rights. Also, she believed that majorities have no right to vote away minority rights because indeed, the very function of rights is to protect minorities from the will of majorities. (I don’t know what she had to say about building roads, though.)

      In Quebec, however, collective rights are not about redressing inequality anymore. The PQ under Marois has made it explicitly clear during the election campaign that their “nous” is not about speaking French anymore but rather about being born with French as a mother tongue (which would exclude Maka Kotto from being able to run for the PQ again). “We don’t have to apologize for being what we are,” she says, never saying who it is exactly that was asking for an apology.

      The PQ cheers how minority francophones have resisted assimilation, all the while forcibly trying to assimilate other minorities. It is the height of hypocrisy.

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    10. I'm just invoking that anything by Ayn Rand is BS, especially that quote, for the reasons named above. You can leave me outside of your idle extrapolations, thanks.

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    11. Yannick, taxation has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Obviously there are instances where essential services are required. That has nothing to do with the specious argument that collective rights gives a majority the right to repeal English as an official language. There can be no compromise where civil liberties are at stake. If the English majority in your beloved New Brunswick decided to repeal French as an official language or if the Parliament of Canada decided to repeal the Official Languages Act in the name of collective rights you would not be a happy camper. It appears that you and Michel Atrice are on the same page and are kindred spirits as far as civil liberties goes.

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    12. True montrealer : I don't disagree with anything you said. All I'm saying is that it's a bit more difficult to bask in Ayn Rand's quote on minority rights when her idea of oppressive laws are things like Hydro-Québec or public education.

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  23. Happy sing-along song about the PQ by Bowser & Blue:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SECSHZl2eo

    (warning: F-bombs galore!)

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  24. The sad truth of the matter is that all the corruption in the world cannot hold a match to the financial disaster that awaits us as the unions, the students, and government workers run riot as Pauline empties the public purse to satisfy her constituency of takers.

    You do realize that she's the only one in the past 50 years to successfully balance the budget, right? I mean have you even been paying attention to the platforms?

    The elephant in the room is not only the debt, but the deficit.

    It's a good thing the PQ has made Reducing government spending, (without sacrificing our social programs (like the PLQ would do) or slicing jobs (like the CAQ would do) the focal point of their budget. Their platform will cost less than half that of the PLQ, and less than a third that of the CAQ.

    The PQ budget plan also includes paying off the debt by as much as 5 billion over the first mandate.

    While every political party based their budgetary program on the prediction that Quebec's economy would grow at about 2.5%, it isn't happening.

    The PQ based their budget on a much more realistic 1.9% growth.

    This means an additional two to three billion added to the deficit and if the PQ follows through with its election promises,

    Their platform costs roughly 992 million.

    Like every incoming government before them, Pauline will take one look at the books and renege on the financial goodies package, claiming quite rightly that the Charest government lied about the finances and that the government cannot afford new spending.

    They've based their budget on the current term's Liberal budget, and accounted for the 800 million shortfall. And again, their platform is the least costly of the three major parties by a long margin. Their budget is centred on reducing government spending.

    The real test will come in 2013 when the Equaliztion program is up for renegotiation. If the feds scrap the program

    If the federal government decides to scrap the equalization program, it doesn't matter which party goes in here, any of the three would have to deal with it. Nice try though.

    If the PQ is elected your west island home will be worth 25% less on Wednesday.
    Why, because anglophones are afraid of the big bad wolf?

    A PQ minority could easily be defeated by a CAQ /Liberal coalition, a more likely scenario than the CAQ supporting the PQ for very long.

    Legault has flat out refused to cooperate with the Liberals, but has expressed a willingness to work with his former party, too bad.

    A CAQ minority government would be akin to a CAQ majority government with the Liberals having no other choice but to support the government at all costs and for many years.

    Except the Liberals don't have that choice, as once again, Legault has flat-out refused to work with the Liberal party, but stated that he is willing to work with the PQ, they'll likely give up their union-busting platform in exchange for meeting half-way on healthcare, and holding off a referendum.

    If things pan out as predicted in the polls, the Liberals will remain with a dozen or so seats, half of them English/Allo.
    That would be a glorious day indeed.

    If that happens, it would be natural that they defect to the CAQ, or form a splinter Anglo/Allo rights party, thus finishing off the Liberal party once and for all, something that is needed if we want to avoid electing a separatist government with 30% of the vote.

    Implying that it would be okay to elect a federalist party with 30% of the vote. It either works both ways, or not at all. Worth noting as well, is that the NPD plans to form a second provincial NPD in Quebec for the next election (few remember that there was previously a QNPD, it severed ties with the federal party over the sovereignty issue in the 80s, and merged with the Communist Party to become Quebec Solidaeir in '06), which will have the unintended effect of further splitting the federalist vote.

    - A pragmatic (not soft) nationalist.

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  25. So what do people think happened during this electoral campaign?

    It seems to me that it was initially called on account of the pots-and-pans student protests, but that soon vanished as an issue, probably because they realized the students realized they were helping Charest get re-elected. Then it was supposed to be about corruption, but Legault pulled the rug out from under Marois by recruiting “Mr. Clean”, Jacques Duchesneau. So then the PQ was left to play the identity (race) card, the lowest common denominator, and shamefully, it appears that will have worked since referenda and sovereignty are back, even though ¾ of Quebecers claim to be against that (per “Quebec separatists set to win, independence idea unpopular”). In any event, by simple rotation, the PQ were bound to be elected, if not this election then the next one for sure. Even though it seems ~70% of Quebecers are against her, you can be sure the RoC will think that we practically all supported her. She’s like a mini-Harper in that respect; most everybody doesn’t want either one of them, and yet that’s what we wind up getting stuck with.

    I wonder if there was anything Charest could have done differently during the campaign. He really is stuck between a rock and hard place. Stupidly courting votes by extending Bill 101 federally probably cost him much more than anything else. If he loses his seat, I wonder whether he’ll pull a Gilles Duceppe and quit the night of the election.

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    1. Cat, speak for yourself re Harper. Maybe YOU don't want Harper, but don't speak for the RoC! Quebec as a whole doesn't want Harper because he's not into putting chickens in every pot the way the federal Liberals did and Mulcair will as well should he assume the mantle of power. I for one will do my darnedest to keep pro-Quebec nationalist Mulcair away from 24 Sussex Dr.

      Harper studied economics and Mulcair is a career politician/activist whose views vary from day to day depending which way the wind is blowing. He'll give Quebec anything and everything at the expense of the rest of us because that's his political base. Da Bloc grew stale so Quebec elected the new flavor of the month last year. Ignatieff sucked badly, and he high tailed out of Ottawa having lost his seat to boot. His riding was next to mine, so I got to see his demise up close.

      Mulcair has a law degree, and he's the consummate reason why there is a joke where if you find yourself lost in a jungle with two bullets in your gun, and you encounter a lawyer and a hungry lion, you use the two bullets to shoot the lawyer and make sure you get him! This way you kill the problematic lawyer and give the lion something (someone, really) to eat.

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  26. Regarding the Editor’s interesting Scenario #2, Legault now says the CAQ won't form an alliance with the Liberals, so it seems a PQ minority won’t be defeated by a coalition.

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    1. That is just pre-election posturing.
      Trust me, I know politicians and my scenario is bang on.

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  27. Readers' I have gone back and appended a hilarious song by Bowser and Blue, after receiving a tip from "The Cat'

    Please press 'Reload and watch the video which incorporates a couple of artworks from this blog.
    A warning, Lotsa of F bombs!.

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    1. *blush* I presume you’re talking about the picture at 0:25; that was your own original artwork, was it not, Editor?

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    2. Actually there are three.
      1. The road sign with the three banned ethnics.
      2. The Big brother poster of Pierre Curzi and...
      3. The OQLF inspector drinking a glass of wine.

      but who's bragging......

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  28. Wow! A hateful picture from the wife of the PQ candidate in Sherbrooke who is opposing Jean Charest has been posted on Facebook… one of him being guillotined in a ballot box! Luckily for us that La Marois wanted to run a clean campaign… These people are out of their minds!

    Une «image haineuse» diffusée par la conjointe de Cardin

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  29. 9 anglos dans la rue avec Gogo S. aujourd'hui afin de protester contre l'OQLF.Plus fort sur les blogues que dans l'action le anglos/allos/lolos,etc.

    Bravo!

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  30. FROM ED BROWN
    No matter who wins we should begin organizing the English.What we need to do is start a group here, encourage others to start groups in their area. As these groups grow we consolidate them under an umbrella group. As a large group it is easy to make the government listen, many voicess = many votes. This the politicians understand. Whether the election turns out good or not. We should organize just to let them (the government) know we are here. If we can muster enough power thgey will think about that when introducing bills of any kind. We don't need to look at partition right away, we can be a shadow
    party and start by helping English candidates get elected.

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    1. I'm with you 100% on this. Alliance Quebec is no more, but that doesn't mean Anglo-Quebecers and Allo-Quebecers don't need a voice anymore. A political movement of any sort in support of the anglo/allo community is a step in the right direction.

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    2. Me too - hopefully we can get together to fight any new legislation that discriminates against us even more than Bill 101. SHE CANNOT BE ALLOWED ANY FURTHER POWERS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT TAKE AWAY EVEN MORE OF OUR RIGHTS. Yes - let there follow a political movement for our rights following this election.

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    3. Sorry Ed - I think we have to consider partition right away because she is going to push us into another referendum.

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    4. Trop peu,trop tard...

      dixit M.Sauga

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    5. Goodbye to the SRs of the world! Let't get on with partition so he can move to Baie Comeau or wherever they vote to live following the end of the province.

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    6. Contactez Gogo Shebbeare,il vous fournira probablement les coordonnées de ses 9 militants "actifs".

      Good luck!

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    7. @ Cutie003

      Do you know what is even less probable than a the YES vote winning the next referendum ? Partition. Not possible. It won't happen. You'll be stuck in Québec or forced to move elsewhere. That's reality.

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    8. Brown, I agree with you up to a point - I don't think a partition is possible before a 50%+1 YES, however it is viable afterwards. Self-determination works both ways.

      In my opinion, what the partitionists should focus on is obtaining more economic and political autonomy for Montreal (Bloc Montrealais anyone?) - it would be a gruelling battle, but easier and actually more attainable than a straight partition of Quebec. Once Montreal becomes somewhat autonomous the base of a possible split from an independent Quebec is set. Because Montreal rocks and it deserves better!!! Just my two cents.

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  31. Well, since it seems we have a depressing long weekend to envisage a Pauline Marois government, here’s a little flashmob distraction to keep your spirits up!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbJcQYVtZMo

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    1. How about one from Montreal?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B13k7U-WyK0&feature=related

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  32. Beautiful!!!

    a couple of others;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F74gOxUNeA&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zmwRitYO3w

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNqosHRbWog&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9MZYrWKg0o&feature=related

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  33. Boy oh boy!
    Those Israeli girls are HOT!!!

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  34. Okay, if we are trying to get our minds off the election, try not to laugh;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjkf-Qj0nqM&feature=related

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  35. How depressingly predictable that my previous comment was deleted. How dare anyone have the audacity to call you out on your fictions, especially an English-speaking allophone, no less. Gotta keep up appearances on a unified front and silence all differing viewpoints, don't we?

    Keep on fueling your hate-machine, you do society a service!

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  36. 36% Jean Charest (also wins his own seat)
    27% François Legault (will apologize one day)
    26% Jean-François Lisée (good riddance)

    Why?
    18% undecided with majority of them liberals and 38% CAQists not solidly decided.

    Lets do our part!

    Have a peaceful weekend...

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    1. "36% Jean Charest (also wins his own seat)"

      Flash,are you a fun guy at a house party?

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  37. I'm almost ready to vote for that stupid Pauline so we can get on with a referendum and let the areas of Quebec go that want to go. Follow the Clarity Act in each municipality and what's left goes to Quebec. Good riddance at this point. They're mostly radicals and are not at all interested in working with us to make this a better place to live. All they care about is hate and control.

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  38. Mr. Harper must say no to her request for any new powers for Quebec and let the chips fall where they may. We have to end her blackmail tactics and tell her that Quebec is part of Canada or its not. That is the only way we will end this 40 year stalemate!

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  39. La SAQ a augmenté ses stocks de Champagne en prévisions d'une victoire Péquiste.

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    1. Super ! Tu peux être certain que je vais être de ceux qui vont s'en acheter une. J'irai la boire avec des amis sur la rue d'Orchester à Westmount ! GO PQ et vive le Québec libre !

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    2. Dorchester qui deviendra peut-être Boul.René-Lévesque d'un bout à l'autre :)

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    3. Jose, are you from Peru, originally?

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    4. Attention Jose,TS va vous attaquer sur le fait que vous êtes (peut-être) un immigrant et que c'est une grave erreur d'avoir intégré à une société raciste comme la nôtre et de ne pas avoir choisi la parfaite et non raciste société canadienne.Juste poser la question ayant trait à vos origines en raison de votre nom,nous met déjà sur une piste.

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    5. Harvey,
      could be, but I have met a Jose Marquez while in school. He was dating an anglo... just wondering how that turned out. (I am aware that this might sound like 'Do you know Bob from the States?', but I thought I might give it a try, since there couldn't be millions of Jose Marquez from Peru in Montreal).

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    6. On a good note, you managed to get S.R to admit that Canada is a "perfectly non-racist society" (his words not mine and that his separatist brood has set the tone for a very exclusionary program.

      Oh, and regarding one of his earlier remarks about Troy and how he wouldn't fit in with the rest of Canadian society on account that he's Asian, he just proved how little time he's spent outside of Québec.

      Stopped by a client's offices and somewhere between 35 to 40% of his staff was compromised of non-whites (not sure how many are immigrants or not) and sure as hell, when you hit the cafeteria, everyone was mixing together.

      (I can practically hear our little bigot's stomach acid churning now).

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  40. Marios, Mulcair, Charest, Trudeau, PQ, ADQ, CAQ…all the same in Kebec, they all support the racist, bigoted, anti anything but French Nazis language laws…bills 22, 178, 101…



    Election Snore, who really cares? Kebec – A bankrupt, have not, racist (bills 22, 178, 101…), tax and spend, high taxes, big government, corrupt to the core province…a bloody mess. All the people running for office support the same racist language policies, the same big government, high debt , corrupt to the core BS, they are all the same folks.



    Now lets take a look at how we can help the PQ win. Go purchase a swastika fleur de lees, burn it, film it, send it to all media, post it on utube…let these racist, bigoted, xenophobic clowns in Kebec know that we have had enough of the Nazis like language laws, (bills 22, 178, 101…) we have had enough of them milking the country dry financially (equalization, over 8 billion last year) and we have had enough of the forced phony bilingual-french hiring quota only outside kebec while they ban and wipe out the English language and culture in Kebec.



    Now is the time folks, help get the PQ elected, and then vote to separate clowns. They are all the same in Kebec, all anti-English language, pro bill 101 bigots…After partition, separate, get lost, scram, so long…The sooner the better. Oh, and don’t forget to take all those metis (they are NOT French) clowns in Ottawa and TO with you when you leave.



    Just boycott the province period like most informed thinking Canadians already do.



    We want out country back. Repeal the charter, bilingualism, multiculturalism, all the phony rights crap…give is back our real flag, our real BNA, UEL history…repeal all the crap forced upon the country by Trudeau and his gang of bigots from Kebec. Get lost Kebec!!!

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    1. It is sad and I wish that it didn't have to be but I concur, the faster and harder it goes down the better off we all are.

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    2. That's OK for you who do not reside here. Remember that we Canadian Citizens that live here have a right to determine our own fate if the separatists have a right to determine theirs and Canada's. There are many areas of Quebec that are true Canadians and we will demand the right to remain in our own country. The rest of Canada should be very aware that we are here!

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    3. The Rest of Canada doesn't care that we are here.
      They probably care for us as much as I care for the Quebecois.
      After laying down for so long we don't deserve any help.
      Remember the Anglo exodus, remember all the help and support that was provided to us.
      Remember how we all just stood up and just said no!
      It' seems that the anglos left here have assimalated into the Quebecois culture so far as to adopt the whining and feeling sorry for ourselves.
      It's just us and the Natives, now.
      Thank God that they have some integrity and courage.
      We are the authors of our own misfortune the only thing left to do is to let them have it.
      They will crash and burn.
      then we will have to pick it up and due what we do best. Build!

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    4. Well are we going to just sit back again? We have to start somewhere, so do what I did and e-mail Mr. Harper, tell him he has an obligation to protect the Canadians in Quebec against the upcoming bigotry, and write again after the election if the PQ comes in. That's what I did and I'm going to do. I don't feel that the anglos left here have assimilated into the Quebec culture but, in my area anyway, we have adjusted to each others' culture. I don't have the time left to pick up the mess they will create so I'd just as soon fight to remain a part of Canada if that's all that's left to do. If we just sit back and accept any more changes to Bill 101 as proposed by PQunt, we deserve a kick in the ass maybe but not the loss of our property or our country.

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    5. Good luck with those small parts of Canada lost in the Quebec territory.

      You are not going to get much help from the "new Quebec" or "mainland" Canada.

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    6. We haven't had any help from Quebec anyway so what are we losing except a bunch of bigots. Sorry but our areas of Quebec that remain a part of Canada will not be lost in Quebec territory. We will retain all the property along our borders with Ontario and it is you that will be lost in North America (which is what we were trying to prevent if you remember correctly)!

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    7. By the way, in our bilingual neighbourhood, Francophones and Anglophones live very well side by side and most of our Francophones are CANADIAN FIRST and are more than willing to tell everyone that. They know they have the best of both worlds because they are bilingual, have better opportunities and better education because the world of science and technology revolves around English. Do you think they will be stupid enough to vote to stay in a Quebec that proposes they live in French only when they know that that is not possible in North America? I don't think so.

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  41. Love Bowser and Blue Video!


    Marios is trouble review her news pieces she is cunning watching the camera at all times.
    She doesn't cloak her hunger for ultimate power.
    I detect not a drop of heart or purity in her responses.
    I've asked before who grew this evil person who hates so many things?
    No one can get the dirt on the seed that grew this?
    The enthusiasm she has to take control of EVERYTHING and EVERYONE is impressive.
    The propaganda smacks of Germany in 1938 The polls are a joke people click shit just to screw with them.
    According to all polls in the Alberta election WildRose was supposed to win by a landslide.

    So don't fret your not going anywhere! Quebec does not "Belong" to any person she is a part of Canada.
    The only group of human's in Quebec with rights to her are the First Nation's.
    Common sense tells me the voters that want to leave Canada after they lose the election can move to france.

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  42. My common sens tells me those who may want to leave Canada after they lose the election can move to the UK.

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    1. I was mocking Mich B's last sentence.

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    2. CUTIE003 Pierre isn't educated he thinks UK is Canada more PQ mist

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    3. CUTIE003 Mich B isn't educated he/she thinks France is Quebec...

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  44. FROM ED BROWN
    Wolfe, Seigfreid and Laurence: What the hell are you guys on?

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    1. Pierre that last sentence isn't a threat it's academic.
      Canada loves you Pierre vote with your head not your ass. OX

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    2. Since you seem SO educated, tell why I should leave Quebec for France if I'm not happy with the results of the upcoming election.

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    3. @Pierre - I must say again - Just because there are groups of separatists that reside in certain areas of Quebec does not mean that they have the right to claim all the land around them! Mich B is right - the natives have the right to claim their land (which they will take out of Quebec in an instant) but the rest is up for grabs - you guys keep your little pieces and we'll keep ours - simple and no physical confrontation. Each municipality has it's own little referendum asking "Do you want to remain a part of Canada"?. Now you must admit that's democratic and if certain areas respond "No" they can form their own little country. Imagine the little parade you can have down the main street of oh, I don't know, "Baie Comeau" e.g. In fact, I would go down and cheer you all out!

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    4. There is an international precedent (not entirely similar to Qc's situation, but it'll do) that can be used as an example:

      http://www.irpp.org/po/archive/mar99/janda.pdf

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    5. TS - looked briefly at the above paper - looks very interesting - thank you. Will read the entire document when I get the chance but looks like common sense to me so far.

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    6. Very interesting solution and just what I thought would work as long as everyone is reasonable! That's what we have to hope for next referendum - In fact I will vote for a referendum if we can resolve it by defining the new borders of Quebec. Let's get it over with and get on with our lives - them in their new Quebec and we in our new Province of Canada - Hmm - have to think of a great name for our new Province!

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    7. How about "New Lower Canada"/<> as the name for the province? I thought of it while going for a stroll this morning. I think it would suit the new province quite nicely.

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    8. < < Nouveau Bas-Canada > > (or maybe nouvelle, not positive which) would be the name in french.

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  45. No offence anonymous ED Brown
    Your naivete is quite charming,
    it might have been refreshing forty odd years ago.
    The ship your waiting for sailed and sank
    Good Luck

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  46. OK Ed-we appreciate your knowledge and stories - thank you.

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  47. As a native francophone New Englander living in Maine, it is saddening to read the article and the many comments attached. Canada is at its best as a unified country. Americans rarely hear about the bitterness that separatists propagate against federalists. The French language never comes off as under threat of disappearance- no more than Spanish looks vulnerable to extinction in New York. Living languages don't need enforcement, just support- and there's plenty of that for French in Canada, Spanish in New York, and Welsh in Wales- and oppressive disenfranchisement is not necessary.
    You have a beautiful country, and we hope you can preserve it.

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  48. FROM ED BROWN
    I may be naive Seigfried but I have enough sense to know tthat if they crash and burn we burn with them . We're living here. Whatever debt they drive us into will be ours as well. How does leaving Canada and going to the U.K. fit into our problems. I ask again what are you thinking. Ed

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  49. Trudeau gets alot of flak from many here. Yet they don't mention that it was Bill Davis of Ontario and Sterling Rufus Lyon that faught for the notwithstanding clause. I for one am thankful we have a charter of rights and freedoms and can't give a flying $%#* about the monarchy. There were many compromises that were made that had unintended consequences, but has any Canadian government tried to even get rid of the Not withstanding clause or even the unequal education provisions that limits English education in Quebec?

    The only way Anglophones, Allophones and Natives can get any equality is to start their own partition movement, no matter which political parties win on Tuesday.

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    1. I totally agree - time to let the areas go that want to go = let them suffer their own hardships without bringing us down with them. We can join Ontario or create a new bilingual province like NB.

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    2. GO Cutie GO!

      Le cercle des belles fermières d'outaouais sont derrière vous!

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  50. The latest polls predict a PQ majority, unfortunately....

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  51. There's another event Monday Sounds like today's event was very successful.
    From the Office of the English Language Montreal, Quebec

    This is an initiative from Antoinette Mercurio, who secured a permit-
    for a PEACEFULL walk, what i proposed is starting Strathcona and Sherbrooke and keeping on Sherbrooke....to Mc Gill college.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/497176583643207/498009070226625/?notif_t=plan_mall_activity

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  52. I think instead of all moaning and groaning maybe we should try to do something to stop a PQ majority. I have a strategy..go to the website tooclosetocall.ca and click on the poll results in the top right hand corner..you will then see a pdf file open with results per riding. Find your riding and vote for the strongest of either the caq or the libs. If the caq and libs are close choose the caq as they have more momentum and are way ahead with the francophone vote.
    This will be especially critical in the close races mainly in the Montreal suburbs. Talk to as many of your friends and families as possible to spread the word on how to vote against the PQ.

    I also wonder why so many anglos are surprised the PQ are winning..it was clear over the past year or two that the Libs were toast..there was only one other option. If its so miserable living here why do so many anglos linger..you could have all sold your houses for great gains over the past 2 years..now you are all stuck as prices will collapse.

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  53. I thought it was worth sharing (from the Montreal Gazette):

    'She (Marois) suggested that keeping non-anglophones out of Quebec’s English CEGEPs will ensure they do not assimilate to Quebec’s English minority, assuming education in English means they will lose their French language, after 11 years of French primary and secondary schooling.

    “We will not put money into the anglicization of Quebecers,” Marois said.

    As Marois spoke, behind her stood two PQ candidates, Bernard Drainville and Véronique Hivon, both of whom studied in Britain, obtaining graduate degrees from the London School of Economics.' (This was the best line!!)


    Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/life/Anglophone+newspapers+support+because+scares+them+less+Pauline+Marois+says/7179908/story.html#ixzz25HGru9jC

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    1. “We will not put money into the anglicization of Quebecers,” Marois said.

      Hmmmm....

      Il y a 377 écoles élémentaires et secondaires francophones en Ontario:

      http://www.ofa.gov.on.ca/fr/questions.html

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    2. Combien de ces élèves vont travailler en français en ontario?

      Bonne question,harvey?

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    3. I was just thinking that another way to get our message across about bigoted Pauline, if she gets a majority government (God forbid), is to write not just to our MNAs, our Federal reps and S. Harper but to our city(s)and request a rebate of at least 25% on our property tax because the value of our homes is going to drop dramatically should the PQunt get into power. Should Harper allow her any more powers under the "Notwithstanding" clause, we should all request re-location grants from the Federal Government for not stopping her from taking away any more rights we have under OUR CONSTITUTION. Just a little food for thought!

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    4. Re: Paulette's requests from Harper - if I remember correctly, I believe she will request that broadcasting should come under provincial jurisdiction. Most likely if she succeeds, it will be a limit on English TV and radio, whether Canadian or from the States. More Marie Mai, Loco Locass and the likes. Yay... I suggest everyone starts learning the lyrics of "C'est moi", otherwise you'll be denied the much sought-after quebecois citizenship.

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    5. I repeat - we must put pressure on the PM to stop letting her blackmail everyone through the Notwithstanding clause. We Canadians be we Anglos/Allos/Francophones have a right to be supported in Canada with the bilingual policy in play at the moment. No more changes to Bill 101, no more restricting our RIGHTS, let the partition of this province get underway and get it over with - 40 years and counting. I don't want to die before I see the results of a new Province and a New Quebec.

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    6. TS,si vous cherchez un travail,notre parti est toujours à la recherche de cerveaux créatifs tel que vous.Vous êtes la preuve vivante que les anglos les plus intelligents n'ont pas tous quitté le Québec,si vous êtes un vrai anglo bien entendu.

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    8. I dare you to give a logical reason for requesting provincial broadcasting powers. And please don't give me the crappy "maîtres chez nous".

      *slaps you with dainty glove*

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    11. S.R
      Your comments of late are entirely too tedious, unwitty and violate rules about gratuitous personal insults.
      Try to put a thought together that others may actually find interesting.

      Please remember this when posting.

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  54. Editor, this is the best you can do? To really ruin the long weekend I would suggest taking your scenarios one step further.

    To wit:

    Scenario 5.

    PQ minority with QS in the balance of power.

    How did I do?

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      right you are....it's too frightening to contemplate, never mind say out loud.

      Pass the C2H5OH....

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  55. "Combien de ces élèves vont travailler en français en ontario?

    Bonne question,harvey?"

    C'est quoi le problème, S.R? T'as pas le cash suffisant pour visiter tes cousins à Toronto?

    Tu préfère parler à travers son chapeau d'un peuple que t'as jamais rencontré?

    Ça ne me surprend pas.

    BTW, apologies to other readers for feeding the troll, but if it's one thing I can't stand is hearing these weak-minded little isolationist twerps talking like they've been everywhere and seen everything, and then post garbage that is 100% contradictory to what is really going on.

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    1. Et la réponse est...?...

      Je vais répondre pour vous : Zéro

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  56. I think it will be a three way split leaving the province in limbo!

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    1. Anything's better than a PQ victory. I'm ready for anything now. Letters and e-mails all drafted and seeking out organizations I can join to fight any more loss of my rights. My kids were boy scouts.

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  57. FROM ED BROWN
    O Ye of little faith. Charest will retain his seat leading a majority government. Be of good cheer we are going to win. I am an optimist. I've found optimism pays off. At least you don't worry until it hits you square in the face. When it does you get up and say it could have been worse. Ed P.S. Harvey, youmust remember that S.R. is French and stands for SANS REALITE. Ed

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    1. And in English, S.R stands for Super Racist
      I pray you are right, Ed. If the PQunt gets in with a majority they will be TERRIBLE. They know that with changing demographics, the internet, young people learning english, that this their last chance and they will clamp down hard. If they win a minority, they will be swept away in 6 months.

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  58. I also hope you're right Ed but meanwhile I've composed a draft e-mail to Stephan Dion requesting information on the constitution and who to pressure to remove the "Notwithstanding" Clause from the Constitution. We will have to be ready for a letter campaign and protest movements from many sources to stop that S--- .It will be sent as soon as I hear the results on November 5 if PQunt is in a majority. These people are not at all interested in a bilingual country - they want to self-destruct in North America and I'm all ready to send them off. They've held us hostage far too long.

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  59. Let the civil disobedience begin. Pay cash, tax dodge and declare nothing. Starve the PQ beast. They view our community as walking wallets, that's all. The only rights we have is the right to shut the fuck up.

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  60. From the French-language site: http://ecranradar.wordpress.com/ptit-guide-du-parfait-militant-bloquiste-2-0/

    The ultimate guide to being the perfect PQ militant 2.0

    Argument # 1 "Exclusivity"
    "The PQ is the only" party to defend Quebec's interests against Ottawa.

    Argument # 2 "The only one”
    "The PQ is the only one who defends Quebec’s values". Do not add anything, do not attempt to give an example of any Quebec values!

    Argument # 3 "The insult"
    All questions for which you do not have an answer must be described as being "an insult”.

    Argument # 4 "You don’t propose anything"
    Why vote for the PQ? Simple, because "the other parties propose nothing”, propose nothing, propose nothing ...!

    Argument # 5 "Negation"
    "Deny" constantly that your speaker has answered your question, ask him your question again and “deny again and again”.

    Argument # 6 "Methodology"
    Yet another survey that uses a "questionable methodology”… well, this argument is always useful when the numbers are not good for us. But if they use the same argument when the numbers are good for us, accuse your speaker of being of "bad faith”!

    Argument # 7 "Predictable"
    For any argument that destabilizes you, answer that your speaker "is predictable”, and do not forget to add this smiley ;-)

    Argument # 8 "Hate"
    If they should question your arguments, it’s because "they hate you”, hence denounce this "hate”!

    Argument # 9 "It’s is an attack"
    For any question by an opponent for which you do not have an answer, always reply that this is "an attack”, hence denounce this "attack”!

    Argument # 10 "Putting in context"
    Pauline never loses her temper against an opponent, "she rectifies things, puts them in context”...

    Argument # 11 "Splitting the vote"
    Option Nationale and Québec Solidaire "divide OUR (“NOTRE”) vote”, so don’t ever miss an opportunity to remind this to @Aussant, @ AmirKhadir and @FrancoiseDavid.

    Argument # 12 "The payroll"
    "You get paid to tweet!" (this is to be used as a reply when the enemy insists on receiving an answer)

    Argument # 13 "Take the 401!”
    To be used against pushy enemies who are against sovereignty, "If you don’t want to live in my independent Quebec, take the 401"!

    Argument # 14 "Legault is too present"
    Retweet often that "François Legault is on Twitter too much”, especially since Pauline is not ...

    Argument # 15 "No real debate"
    To be replied whenever a CAQist tweets a statement from François Legault’s program: "Adopted in a few hours without any real debate ..."

    Argument # 16 "CAQ-PLQ, six of one, half a dozen of the other"
    When lacking any argument to denounce @francoislegault’s program, one must associate it with the PLQ, which is tainted by corruption and collusion: "The CAQ and the PLQ, it’s all the same"

    Argument # 17 "Shit"
    When lacking any argument to denounce @francoislegault’s program, let Pauline inspire you, who in “At the Level of Men”, stated “we will be enough to stir up shit in the House!”: "The CAQ/or PLQ, it’s all shit!". Variation: Attack the CAQ’s tweets by accusing the author of "throwing shit around on Twitter”!

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