Friday, March 4, 2011

French versus English -Volume 23

SAQ accused of colonialism
Michel Phaneuf, a big shot Quebec wine connoisseur who writes an annual guide to the wines offered at the SAQ, the Quebec liquor monopoly, has taken the organization to task for partnering with an American wine expert, James Suckling, in a promotion.
Obviously annoyed he offered this pearl; 
"The SAQ does not need to do this. It is a form of colonialism. Like an American opinion is better than another. It seems to me that Quebec, with all its talent, editors, critics and sommeliers need not rely on the opinion of a Californian columnist"
Colonialism? Actually, it sounds more like sour grapes to me!

OQLF to attack English Store names
Louise Marchand-very professional
Last week I caught some heat for calling the new director of the l'Office québécois de la langue française (OQLF) ugly, so from now on I shall refer to her as the 'very professional' Louise Marchand.  She happens, by the way, to be in a bit of a snit over the fact that in the Saint-Roch district of Quebec City, horrors of horrors, she spotted an Urban Outfitters store alongside  Mountain Equipment Co-op, not far from City Café.

And so the 'very professional' director of the OQLF has set herself a goal of francizing the names of stores such as American Apparel, Old Navy and Feetfirst to reflect the fact that they are operating in Quebec. LINK{FR}
Unfortunately for her, international law protects the intellectual property of company names and so her hands are somewhat tied. No doubt we will see another SECOND CUP imbroglio wherein the company was forced to add the word "Les cafés" before its name to satisfy the language hounds. How would I describe this state of affairs.....'very professional.'

The OQLF has found itself tongue-tied in the affair of SKI IN/SKI OUT  hotels a new type of lodging that allows skiers to, as you might have guessed it, ski right up to the door of their lodging. 
These type of hotels are sprouting up along the hills of many Quebec ski resorts and the appellation seems to have stuck.
As of yet their are no suggestions for French alternatives. LINK

Interviewed in a Quebec City newspaper Madame Marchand warned Quebeckers that it's their responsibility to protect the French language and as such, when speaking with anglos or ethnics, they should stick to speaking French only.... How 'very professional' of her!

I received an email from Steve asking what the annual budget of the OQLF is...
The answer..... a little more than $20 million.


Student complains about English course material
 "The case has not made much noise, but nevertheless reveals a disturbing trend. On February 4, in Le Devoir we learned that a student at the University of Montreal believed herself to be a victim of language discrimination. Enrolled in a Religious Studies, Marie-Noelle Smith had to retire from the very first course because 80% of reading material was in English. "Does it mean that higher education is accessible only to a bilingual elite in Quebec? "She asked anxiously.  
The Ombudsman of the university responded that French is fine, but it must first seek "the highest standards of quality ."  Le Devoir

French dictionary makes a stink
A Montreal Gazette writer humorously noted that a French dictionary was placed in the Foreign language section of a Montreal bookstore.
It was funny until Josee Legault, the Montreal Gazette resident separatist made a big deal about it and sent the story viral.
Always ready to find something to feed her persecution complex she played up the story as something significant instead of something just plain dumb.
Read Andy Riga's story

Anglos ask for English health services in Trois-Rivieres
The small but not insignificant anglo community of the Three-Rivers Trois-Rivieres region has been politely militating for English services in the health care field.
As of now no English services are available anywhere in the region and anglos say that being hospitalized without being able to communicate represents a hardship, especially to the elderly. Bilingual hospital employees are few and far between in the region. LINK

English cegep demand up again this year
Last year saw a 20% rise in the demand for places in Montreal area English cegeps. The increased demand put pressure on students to produce higher marks to earn entry and many were disappointed. The schools increased enrollment after securing a promise from the education department for increased funding.
To date, the money has not been paid and schools are facing another crisis as enrollment is up considerably again this year.
"Dawson College allowed 300 additional students, while John Abbott admitted an extra 175 students, and Vanier added 204.
But none of the schools has actually received any of the new money yet, and the long-term plans for the provincial funding are still up in the air.
Meanwhile, demand to register for the Quebec junior colleges increased for the third year in a row this year, with parents lining up Tuesday at CEGEPs like Dawson College in Montreal on the last day to register students for next fall.
Some CEGEPs have been forced to reject thousands of students in recent years because of an inability to accommodate the demand." LINK CBC news
Renowned Montreal lawyer warns of lawsuit if  Bill 101 applied to cegep
“If an eventual Parti Québécois government decides to extend Bill 101 to CEGEPs, a prominent Montreal lawyer predicts it would be quickly challenged in court.
“I would join in any challenge and I would perhaps personally challenge it, as well,” said Julius Grey.
“I consider academic freedom to be a fundamental issue. And I don’t think a society should play around with higher education and with restricting what people may do.” LINK
In an interview, ex-separatist Premier Lucien Bouchard advised against applying the English restrictions of Bill 101 to cegeps;
I think we have reached a linguistic balance in Quebec. It's fragile, it's not a perfect balance. But at the risk of losing it, we must accept to live with it. LINK{FR}
Rural Anglophones a vanishing breed
“Quietly, without fanfare, English-speakers are disappearing from regions where the roots of both language communities run deep....”

“...150 years ago, the Eastern Townships had more English-speaking residents than Montreal, points out Ronald Rudin, a history professor at Concordia University who spoke at a conference there last week on the inclusion of anglophones in Quebec history. In 1861, anglophones formed one-quarter of the population in the Gaspe, 39 per cent in Quebec City and 64 per cent in the Ottawa Valley...”
Read an outstanding article by Marian Scott about Quebec's vanishing Anglo rural  population.
Rural anglophones a vanishing breed in Quebec

More blowback about grade 6 bilingualism
More progressive thinking on the subject;

"It isn't true that all humans can learn two languages perfectly. Only 10 to 20% can do so without it interfering with their culture. The rest learn their own language poorly or the other imposed language. That's time and money lost.
Everybody says, even today, after 150 years of public education, 35% of people are illiterate to the point of being unable to cope ... and 30% of students are dropping out of high school ..
Where does this madness of trying to impose a second language come from? Speaking  English in Quebec is only required by about 15 to 20% of people. If Bill 101 was implemented, it would be even less.- Onil Perrier
"The teaching of English in the first year in Quebec schools would be a disaster," says French linguist Claude Hagege.

"In another language environment, the teaching of English in the first year would be questionable. But in Quebec, such a reform would have serious consequences with only six million francophones in a sea of 300 million anglophones. The natural evolution is  towards English. French may disappear at any time if English is not severely and strictly forbidden by law. "

"Quebec Francophones must stop believing that in the holy name of globalization, they can thrive and prosper by becoming bilingual. This is a dangerous slippery slope, the consequences will be disastrous for the survival and future of an entire people. React while there is still time!
Claude Verreault, Department of Languages, Linguistics and Translation
  University of
Laval,
"As we saw in the case of bridging schools and as we see now, the decision to require all sixth graders to be subjected to half a year of intensive English, is the Liberal party dream to bilingualize Quebec from one horizon to another, regardless of need and cost." -Yves Rancourt

"No need to look at the numbers to understand that Quebecers are among the most bilingual in the world. Bilingualism is symptomatic of a language imbalance, it is the first phase of a process by which a foreign language is to supplant a local language. Bilingualism in Quebec is one way: Francophones in Montreal or Gatineau speak English to be understood by English speakers, who have no need at all to learn French to be understood. That's the magic of bilingualism." -Daniel Sénéchal

46 comments:

  1. I misplaced my comments on yesterday's editorial, so here it is again:

    Sans doutte (doux?), that new OQLF fascist leader is uglier than the two bulldogs my brother has owned (and will be adopting another later this spring). In all fairness, bulldogs are wonderful, friendly dogs with an excellent disposition.

    Obviously, this provincially-minded (pardon the pun) ugly (and not just her looks) fascist moron has forgotten what happens when you speak French to American tourists. English made a comeback mostly because it repelled tourists in the 1980s and I heard reactions by celebrities appearing on American talk shows. In the Dominican Republic, they can't learn new languages fast enough to go with their official Spanish. They learned English, French and German because the tourist industry speaks the language of the tourists. Tourist revenues there are a major part of their life's blood collectively.

    Somehow, French speakers in Quebec and France and perhaps some other nations (in Europe) where French is spoken, only there is the language so incorporated with culture. Being a descendant of eastern European Jews, for some reason, when my grandparents came to North America (Montreal and Sherbrooke, really), they somehow forgot to pass Yiddish down beyond their children to their grandchildren. My father spoke fluent Yiddish, my mother proficiently. Very few of my contemporaries speak it. I see it becoming a catalogued, extinct language by the end of the 21st Century, if not sooner.

    It was a bastardized language that was used only by Ashkenazi Jews (Eastern & Central Europe), a derivative of mostly German and other European languages, while Sephardic Jews (Mediterranean) did not speak the language.

    It has no official language status in Israel, of all places for it not to. When Hebrew was resurrected in 1948 when Israel gained political independence, the language had to be updated for it was NOT a spoken language for over 2000 years! It only existed in the scriptures and was recited in prayer. I guess Israelis didn't want Arabic to be the official language even though many Israelis speak it. Considering they're surrounded by Arab-speaking nations, they didn't have much choice, and Arabic is not banned in Israel in any way, shape or form.

    I guess this is why Israel, with a population smaller than Quebec, has a thriving economy with the highest per-capita post-secondary educated workforce in the world, and Quebec has a 30-odd percent dropout rate and other unenviable characteristics.

    Shalom halechem (peace and prosperity).

    ReplyDelete
  2. Marie-Noëlle Smith, or Marie-Noëlle Tremblay Tremblay?

    ReplyDelete
  3. @Mississaujga Guy?

    Vous devriez changer votre fournisseur de donuts ou adopter les bagels (je crois que Tim en propose une variété) au petit déjeuner.

    Une alternative intéressante pour votre régime serait le croissant au beurre et confiture accompagné d'un petit expresso mais je crains que ce ne soit un peu trop raffiné pour vous et surtout impossible a trouver a l'ombre de la tour du CN.

    ReplyDelete
  4. "Stephen Harpon said...
    @Mississaujga Guy?

    Vous devriez changer votre fournisseur de donuts ou adopter les bagels (je crois que Tim en propose une variété) au petit déjeuner.

    Une alternative intéressante pour votre régime serait le croissant au beurre et confiture accompagné d'un petit expresso mais je crains que ce ne soit un peu trop raffiné pour vous et surtout impossible a trouver a l'ombre de la tour du CN."

    You know insulting someone by placing them in a hypothetical context with no validity stops being funny after the 6th grade.

    ReplyDelete
  5. @Jasonne

    Avez-vous déja visité Mississauga?Il semblerait que non car vous auriez sans doute constaté que chaque coin de rue a son Tim Horton.On peut donc en déduire que la clientèle y est abondante,non?

    ReplyDelete
  6. "Avez-vous déja visité Mississauga?Il semblerait que non car vous auriez sans doute constaté que chaque coin de rue a son Tim Horton.On peut donc en déduire que la clientèle y est abondante,non?"

    K, what you just said is the most blantant statement of generalization I've ever seen. You're saying that because he lives in a town with allot of Tims he's a Tim addict. That's a flawed logic if I've ever seen one. I live in Brossard and there's three Belle Provinces within 5 minutes of my house and I hardly ever eat there. Get your heads out of each others asses.

    ReplyDelete
  7. "I live in Brossard and there's three Belle Provinces within 5 minutes of my house and I hardly ever eat there."

    Vouz vivez près de Montréal,vous avez donc le choix mais lui pas.

    ReplyDelete
  8. "I live in Brossard..."

    On s'en doutait un peu.

    ReplyDelete
  9. "Vouz vivez près de Montréal,vous avez donc le choix mais lui pas."

    Not sure what you mean by this.

    "On s'en doutait un peu."

    Another empty insult from a seppie? How shocking! God forbid you should bring any facts to the table...

    ReplyDelete
  10. "Vouz vivez près de Montréal,vous avez donc le choix mais lui pas"

    Oooooh I see what you mean. Very good point, but I still think it's an unfair generalization.

    ReplyDelete
  11. @anon 1:20

    Yes its the spread of the anglos and allos. I for one just want that corridor from the west island to the ontario border, then things will get interesting.

    ReplyDelete
  12. @ Quebec dog killer:

    "Vouz (sic) vivez près de Montréal,vous avez donc le choix mais lui pas"

    Yeah, like there aren't any good restaurants in the Mississauga or Toronto areas. What an ignorant asshole!

    ReplyDelete
  13. Stephen Harpon & Jason:

    Messieurs, S.H. isn't far off. The GTA (Greater Toronto Area) has gone through some sort of doughnutization towards the end of the last millennium. THERE IS A TIM HORTON'S RIGHT IN MY WORKPLACE!

    Now and then I'll buy a cup of coffee (now with the roll up the rim contest) and MUCH less frequently I'll by a muffin or doughnut. Toronto bagels? GAAAAAAGG MEEEEE! Thankfully ex-Montrealers are coming to Toronto and setting up Montreal style bagel shops, but in a moment of quiet desparation, I'll buy a local bagel--3-4 times per year.

    Harpon, I can just as easily make snide comments about La Belle Province, Valentin's, Moutard et Ketchup, le P'tit Québec and other assorted hot-dog-and-poutine emporiums. Small towns in Estrie and Laurentides have independent poutineries and I'm guilty of once frequenting that famous artery-clogging, heart-stopping poutinerie, Ashton's in Quebec City.

    S.H. is right. There are more than enough Tim Horton's, Country Style, Baker's Dozen and Coffee Time doughnut emporiums in Toronto and area. Most of them also sell soups and sandwiches to compete with successful lunch stops like Select Sandwich, unknown in Quebec. The doughnut shops are just another choice of place to eat or snack. No obligation to buy there, or at the burger chains, pizza parlors or even croissanteries!

    ReplyDelete
  14. And the stupidest comment about the Tim Hortons is ... we are starting to have as many in Quebec talk about a comment backfiring in the seppies face, mind you they are use to it.

    ReplyDelete
  15. @Mississauga Guy

    Vous semblez être un type honnête contrairement a certains sur ce blogue.

    ReplyDelete
  16. Qq de p, I thought my comment was supposed to address S.H. Quebec had hot dog emporiums before the franchises like LBP and P'tit Québec. Décarie Hot Dog was raking in the $$$ from Vanier and Cégep St-Laurent students long before the franchises, lest we forget Gibeau and le grand orange at Paré and Décarie since before I was born. Even Orange Julius in Toronto doesn't have the atmosphere that Gibeau's had and still has. I'm shocked there's a thriving LBP across the street from Gibeau's! I guess that's how popular hot doggeries are in Quebec.

    Four young ex-Chomedey Greek fellows tried to set a trend with Steam City in Toronto. They set up about four restaurants and sadly, they all flopped. Unlike Montreal, we have street vendors in Toronto and most hot dogs are sold off carts or chip wagons. Montreal outlawed those years ago, always claiming the kitchens were never clean enough. I somehow think the restaurant industry killed them. I've eaten my share of street meat over the years and I'm still alive!

    ReplyDelete
  17. Correct on carts not being on the streets in Montreal, prob yhecresysurants make it so, but a good part was also Drapeau did everything in his power to remove street vendors.
    In your list if hot dog digs you forgot the MPR and victory hot dog on beaver hall

    ReplyDelete
  18. Qq de p: Sorry, I don't know what MPR is or the Victory place. I left Montreal in 1984, even before poutine appeared on Montreal menus (that I was aware of). It was on a visit I learned what poutine was, and I just saw the heart attack rate shoot up! It's OK once in a blue moon, but no more.

    Anyway, to keep within the scope of this blog, it's pathetic that the so-called federalist Quebec party is becoming ever increasingly more nationalist in its policies, but this is the sentiment of of laws passed a generation ago.

    Many Quebec politicians don't speak English because they are not obliged to learn it. Bills 22, 101, 178, 104 and its desciples legitimize the incentive to demaan, demonize and practically admonish English. Minority MNAs are only welcome for cosmetic purposes, i.e., to "serve" their minority consituents. This bunch are the biggest political Quislings I've ever seen, and from how I see it, don't serve their constituents at all!

    That sourpuss for the OQLF is just an extension of this so-called federalist government that has for all intents and purposes given up on federalism and jumped on the separatist bandwagon.

    I was born too late to witness Duplessis and his "yes men", but I remember P.E. Trudeau in a documentary discussing how Duplessis would crack a joke and look out of the corner of his eyes to see who laughed and who didn't. When he threw down his cigar butts, there would be a scuffle to pick up the butts. I guess whoever collected the most got cabinet positions!

    Kathleen Weil, Yolande James, Geoffrey Kelley and the rest of them are Premier John James "Goldilocks" Charest's modern day lackies.

    Premier John James "Goldilocks" Charest has demonstrated without a doubt he is no longer federalist, and perhaps never was. The "Real" Canada's only chance to keep this parasite called Quebec in line, or, if necessary, get rid of it altogether, is to form a federal party that puts true and loyal Canadians in first place as deserved for their loyalty and Quebec at the next level as deserved for their constant fed bashing.

    This could and should mean Quebec kissing its equalization payments and other unappreciated goodies goodbye, and cut them to the quick and beyond to reflect their lack of loyalty to Canada.

    If this is unacceptable to Quebec, they can spend hundreds of millions of dollars they already can't afford on another referendum, and split if it is their will. I for one would be willing to let minority constituencies partition Quebec if it is THEIR will to do so, but only limited portions, mostly certain central parts of Montreal, the West Island and selected other portions of mostly Western Quebec where loyalty to Canada has been maintained. Parts of the Eastern Townships may be included.

    ReplyDelete
  19. MPR (Montreal Pool Room)

    ReplyDelete
  20. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

    ReplyDelete
  21. Qq chose d'écoeurant au pourriMonday, March 7, 2011 at 10:03:00 PM EST

    Qu'est ce que les gens de Toronto viennent faire et se mettre le nez dans le Quebec. Qu'ils gardent donc "le trou du cul qui fait du vent" en anglais en Ontario.

    ReplyDelete
  22. QQ at 10:03PM: This "gen de Toronto" was born, raised and education (in English, mind you) in your loser God forsaken jurisdiction (I've de-provincialized you).

    This "gen de Toronto" didn't feel he belonged in the place where he was born, but fascists tend to look for scapegoats for their own shortcomings. Here in Toronto, the snow has melted while I understand you got a humdinger of a storm out your way. 70cm in Sherbrooke? Wow! With any luck, you'll fall flat on your face walking in it!

    Outside your loser Quebec jurisdiction, we have a free country here, in English or any other language you desire. It's not sad I write and speak of my old stomping grounds this way, it's downright PATHETIC! Nevertheless, I didn't start with fascist rhetoric, your pur lainers did and now you're heading for the same junk bond status Greece is heading for.

    Separate, please, so you can have a currency that will take a shopping cart full of bills to exchange for a Canadian dollar, just like a Deutchmark in the 1920s! You can join the likes of Zimbabwe and soon Greece when they're taken off the Euro and put back on their soon-to-be worthless drachmas! Trust me, Greece is gonna crash, and crash hard!

    ReplyDelete
  23. So you are an unrepented minority with a huge belly button ! You are the one who is separating constantly, winding, bashing in your English separist litanies. Never mind Zimbabwe, you can't keep your nose clean in Quebec, with a nick name like Miss sauce & saga. Yes, the international carpet of Toronto.

    If you are not happy MOOVE!
    or CHANGE!(obviously you can't learn anything but English... unlike some remedial kids )

    ReplyDelete
  24. "So you are an unrepented minority"

    So you admit we have no representation and no voice? And therein lies the true charm of Quebec, a "nation" constantly whining for a say while unwilling to give its own minorities the same courtesy and liberty.

    "You are the one who is separating constantly, winding, bashing in your English separist litanies."

    Do you undertsand what the word seperatist means? There is litterally no such thing as an English seperatist because a drastic majority of the English want to stay in Canada. This directly contradicts the term seperatist. The term "English seperatist" makes about as much sense as the term "Canadian Quebecois sovereignist", 0.

    "Never mind Zimbabwe, you can't keep your nose clean in Quebec, with a nick name like Miss sauce & saga. Yes, the international carpet of Toronto."

    Ah yes, and what good seperatist post would be complete without the added weight of an empty insult.

    "If you are not happy MOOVE!
    or CHANGE!(obviously you can't learn anything but English... unlike some remedial kids )"

    And then of course there's the classic "Si t'es pas content va t'en ailleurs!". And just in case you hadn't noticed, he was unhappy (with Quebec) and he did move (to Mississauga), making your comment redundant.

    ReplyDelete
  25. "So you admit we have no representation and no voice?"

    Non,seulement le Continent Nord américain.
    Pas assez?

    ReplyDelete
  26. "So you admit we have no representation and no voice?"

    Non,seulement le Continent Nord américain.
    Pas assez?"

    You know damn well what I meant. Our voice within your supposed nation. Don't waste my time.

    ReplyDelete
  27. "Our voice within your supposed nation"

    Sorry but you have no rights and no voice here.
    Québec is not mississauga.

    ReplyDelete
  28. When we partition quebec, Vaudreuil will be our new mississauga.

    ReplyDelete
  29. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

    ReplyDelete
  30. You are blocking other opinions or opposite opinions : you are afraid !

    ReplyDelete
  31. Afraid of what? All the seppie and pur laine supremist blogs ban any pro freedom comments anyway.

    ReplyDelete
  32. You and your seppies, take a course in English, you need it !
    French People are not imbeciles, only you think you are a more brillant race ! on account of the number!XYZ!☻

    ReplyDelete
  33. Seppie: septic thank: this is where you should live in.

    ReplyDelete
  34. "Sorry but you have no rights and no voice here.
    Québec is not mississauga. "

    Lol and he proudly admits it.

    "You are blocking other opinions or opposite opinions : you are afraid !"

    Uh no he doesn't. I can find hundreds of posts countering the editor's views within the last 2 weeks alone. Don't lie please. He even allows people to post in French; a priviledge French blogs do not reciprocate.

    And afraid because he blocks a hateful comment or two every now and then? French blogs must be scared shitless then since they've banned an entire language, no?

    "You and your seppies, take a course in English, you need it !
    French People are not imbeciles, only you think you are a more brillant race ! on account of the number!XYZ!☻ "

    It would be tremendous for all of us if you could make sense.

    "Seppie: septic thank: this is where you should live in. "

    Dude not cool. Don't play the empty insult game with them. Makes you as bad as they are.

    ReplyDelete
  35. I have the right to my opinion.
    Only the Anglos on the blog can't take it.

    ReplyDelete
  36. a) What about the French who writes in English and are insulted by you ? you think you are smart ? No. Not only we walk your one way street, but we have to be insulted, all the time, all the time... The truth hurts.

    b) What about alllllllllllllllllllll your hatefulllllllllllllllllllll comments on Quebecois, are they blocked ????????????????????????

    Go back to sleep Jason, like a good boy. wouf,wouf.

    ReplyDelete
  37. "I have the right to my opinion."

    This is absolutely right.

    "Only the Anglos on the blog can't take it."

    Guess what amigo? The anglos "not taking it" is their own oppinion which, guess what, they're allowed to as well.

    "What about the French who writes in English and are insulted by you"

    I don't insult French people. I insult retards. It just happens to be that most of the tards I rip here are French. Not my fault

    "What about alllllllllllllllllllll your hatefulllllllllllllllllllll comments on Quebecois"

    Find one. I dare you.

    And multiple l's on two words....really? We're not 14 year old girls writing on facebook here.

    "Go back to sleep Jason, like a good boy. wouf,wouf."

    And then follows the empty insult. You guys are consistent as gravity.

    ReplyDelete
  38. to JASON OF MONTREAL
    THE OBSESSED WITH HIS IMAGE.

    Oh, qui est la plus belle ? ☻
    ------------------------------
    "I don't insult French people"...

    Eh bien, ça c'est de la frime!



    " I insult retards. It just happens to be that most of the tards I rip here are French. Not my fault..."

    Cette phrase est d'une cruauté inouïe. La méchanceté est gratuite avec vous, elle est dégoutante, malicieuse et INDIGNE.
    Vous êtes INCULTE !



    "Guess what amigo? The anglos "not taking it" is their own opinion which, guess what, they're allowed to as well."

    "amigo" vous vous servez de l'espagnol pour m'insulter, en voilà des façons xénophones !!!Vos rétorques sont sifflantes et piquent, vous vous retournez pour nous narguer, au lieu de donner des arguments positifs. Ce n'est pas la façon de communiquer de gens instruits.



    "Find one (comments against the French) I dare you".

    Définitivement vous n'êtes pas sérieux, c'est le blog le plus xénophobe sur le net. Vous êtes un prétentieux obsédé par votre nombril anglais qui se rassemble à la cochonnerie des autres par leur nombre abominablement trop élevé. Vous vous croyez malin. Il est fou de se penser sage seul. Ne le savez-vous donc pas ? Où avez-vous appris la philosophie? chez Walmart?

    ReplyDelete
  39. To Indigène:
    A l'Autochtone,

    "Sorry but you have no rights and no voice here."

    Who do you think you are ??????????????????

    La liberté d'opinion et d'expression que l'on peut définir comme « la possibilité d'exprimer librement ses opinions sans en être inquiété par autrui» est l'une des premières libertés politiques et plus généralement libertés fondamentales.

    Elle va de pair avec la liberté d'information et plus spécifiquement la liberté de la presse, qui est la liberté pour un propriétaire de journal de dire ou de taire ce que bon lui semble dans son journal, sous réserve d'en répondre devant les tribunaux en cas de diffamation ou calomnie.

    Pour votre gouverne sachez que la calomni et la diffamation ainsi que vos restrictions imposées à la notion de liberté d'expression pour toute parole publique, sont comme l'incitation à la haine et au meurtre.

    Son antithèse est la censure.

    ALORS VIVEZ ET LAISSEZ VIVRE.
    ----------------------------------------------
    "WIKIPEDIA". L'érudition de l'Encyclopédie libre.

    ReplyDelete
  40. What is Jason talking about from Missassauga. Why can't he stay there and stop putting his long nose in the affairs of Quebec, whith his narrow mind.

    ReplyDelete
  41. "amigo" vous vous servez de l'espagnol pour m'insulter, en voilà des façons xénophones"

    Lol how is using the word amigo an insult? You're an idiot. THAT's an insult, as opposed to the Spanish word for "friend".

    "" I insult retards. It just happens to be that most of the tards I rip here are French. Not my fault..."

    Cette phrase est d'une cruauté inouïe. La méchanceté est gratuite avec vous, elle est dégoutante, malicieuse et INDIGNE.
    Vous êtes INCULTE !"

    Uh not really. I rip on retarded anglos who rip on Francos in a mean way on this blog too. Who I rip on has nothing to do with their language despite what you'd like to think so you could pin me as a racist. So there's a nice big giant hole in your theory right there.

    "Vos rétorques sont sifflantes et piquent, vous vous retournez pour nous narguer, au lieu de donner des arguments positifs. Ce n'est pas la façon de communiquer de gens instruits."

    Two days ago I recommended anglos be polite with a particular seperatist because he argued politely. I even apologized to him because I was rude for no reason and wasn't happy with myself. He thanked my for the kind words and continued on debating with the other posters. And just like that your statement is rendered false. I only insult those who say something absurd or are insulting first.

    "Find one (comments against the French) I dare you".

    Définitivement vous n'êtes pas sérieux, c'est le blog le plus xénophobe sur le net"

    LOL still can't find any racist comments of mine can you? Because there are none. Because being anti-seperatist doesn't mean you're anti-french you brainwashed retard. And from what I can tell the editor isn't anti-French either. He seems anti-seperatist and anti-Quebec government but definitely not racist or xenophobic.

    "Vous êtes un prétentieux obsédé par votre nombril anglais qui se rassemble à la cochonnerie des autres par leur nombre abominablement trop élevé. Vous vous croyez malin. Il est fou de se penser sage seul. Ne le savez-vous donc pas ? Où avez-vous appris la philosophie? chez Walmart? "

    Oh man I was hoping you wouldn't let me down. Empty insult FTW!!!!! :D

    "What is Jason talking about from Missassauga. Why can't he stay there and stop putting his long nose in the affairs of Quebec, whith his narrow mind."

    I don't even know where to begin with this one...
    My name is Jason the Montreal anglo and you're telling me to stay in Mississauga and to not butt into Quebec affairs. I think I see where you got confused, lemme explain. See not only are Montreal and Mississauga spelt differently (shocking right?) but they're also actually two completely and physically seperate cities in two different provinces. Oh and Montreal is in Quebec FYI.

    @ Etoile

    Excellent post

    ReplyDelete
  42. "Ce que vous êtes un abrutis!"

    Congratulations! You're our 10,000th empty insult! Come down and claim your prize!

    ReplyDelete
  43. To Etoile on March 11 at 2:04 PM,

    Indigene is not an autochtone. He is a Francophone who is trying to assert that his race is indigenous to Quebec, which is obviously untrue. When he wrote, "Sorry but you have no rights and no voice here" he was actually referring to Anglophones in Quebec.

    Now, do you still stand by your response to him invoking freedom of opinion and expression? Or ALORS VIVEZ ET LAISSEZ VIVRE? I doubt it.

    ReplyDelete