Friday, February 4, 2011

Canada Racing Towards English

The ongoing debate over the so-called assimilation of Francophone Quebeckers to the English side of the language equation through access to English cegep is nothing more than a desperate attempt by French language militants to make some sort of sense of the deteriorating position of the French fact in Quebec and to a much larger extent in Canada.

And so talk of extending Bill 101 to cover post-high school education is a sad and misguided attempt to somehow staunch what appears to be the inevitable and inexorable decline of traditional French society.

But for all the discussions over what's to be done and who's to be blamed for this decline, the rather simple and rather painful truth is hard to face.

The decline has nothing to do with anglophones or access to English cegep and it has nothing to do with francophones 'switching' sides.

It has everything to do with immigration and nothing else.

Canada (including Quebec) has the highest immigration level of any country in the western world. 
The rate of immigration to Canada is twice that of the United States and six times larger than France's. Strangely there is no policy or rationale that can explain this.

Each year Quebec accepts 50,000 immigrants of which only 40,000 end up staying permanently (the others leave to other provinces.)

Of the remaining 40,000, half assimilate to the anglophone community and half to the francophone community. This is the key to the small, but inexorable diminution of the French proportion of Quebec's population. To maintain linguistic balance around 32,000 of the 40,000 would have to  assimilate in French.
Over a decade it means that over 110,000 people have shifted disproportionately to the English side and this and this alone accounts for the decline in the Francophone element from 81% to 79% over the last two decades.

The same is true of immigration in Canada where the difference is much more startling.

Each year 250,000 newcomers are welcomed to Canada, (this number keeps growing) 50,000 in Quebec and 200,000 in the other provinces. But Quebec bleeds 10,000 of these immigrants to other provinces, changing the numbers to 210,000 immigrants to other provinces against just 40,000 in Quebec.

Of course, all the immigrants that settle in the rest of Canada assimilate to the English community while only half of those immigrating to Quebec assimilate to the French community.

The final numbers end up looking like this;

Of the 250,000 immigrants who come to Canada (including Quebec) 230,000 become anglophones and only 20,000 become francophones.

Wow! It's rather shocking.

That's right, only about 9% of immigrants coming to Canada are assimilated into the French side of the language equation. This wouldn't be a huge problem if the number of immigrants was modest, but Canada enjoys the highest immigration rate among leading western democracies.

Canada increases it's population by a million people every four years by way of immigrants, yet only 95,000 become members of the French community.

In Quebec the changes are not so dramatic, but while the demographic shift is small, it is ongoing  and cumulative, as long as immigrants are welcomed in such large numbers and assimilation patterns remain as they are.

As for Canada, the French/English demographic change caused by immigration is monumental. 

The francophone element in Canada is dropping by a rate of over 1% per decade!
Within 20 to 25 years, the Francophone element to Canada will fall below the 20% threshold, while at Confederation in 1867, it was 33%.

In 1971, one  in four Canadians (25.7 per cent) spoke French at home. By 2001, thirty years later, the proportion had gone down to 22 per cent.

All this has to do with immigration.

It has NOTHING to do with Anglophones in Quebec.

If Quebec wants to reverse this trend, it has to find a way to convince immigrating families to adopt French, right away.

Assimilation takes place within the first few years of arrival, not ten to fifteen years later in cegep.

If the government believes that changing access to English cegeps will change this in any way, they are sadly mistaken.

For French Canada to maintain demographic weight or at least to slow down the bleed, it will have to convince the Federal government to slash immigration and to find a way to francize immigrants much earlier.

Both tasks are rather daunting......

72 comments:

  1. If the Martians don't invade us and impose their language on us, the Chinese will. I wonder how vain (narcissistic and futile) our neverending quibble will be then.

    Seriously though, Editor, why the alarmism? Populations change.

    Their values, philosophies, and makeups change. Demographic proportions on just about any topic are bound to change right along with them.

    There are now more "colored" people here. Are we demanding that they bleach their skin? That would be ludicrous.

    Yet the poppycock that passes for "balance" is ridiculous. The current narrative is akin to saying we've let in 100 criminals and desperately need to balance it somehow by attracting or somehow manufacturing 100 good Samaritans.

    One characteristic of cosmopolitan cities has long been a high proportion of foreign-born citizens. Does that make such metropolises any less great? New York, Toronto, Vancouver, Miami, even Montreal aren't falling apart because of this.

    There was a time when we excluded visible minorities from immigration to this country. Our institutionalized obsession (supremacy?) about "our own kind" wasn't right then just as it isn't right now.

    Miscegenation laws have either encouraged or forbidden race-mixing. We've seen this all before.

    Canada has fewer practicing Christians now than it did in 1950. I don't see a "Charte de la religion chrétienne" in the works. And even if I were more frum, I wouldn't want to. My steeple needs to be taller than your minaret? My cross needs to be bigger than your menorah? My eyes are rolling just at the thought.

    Speaking of frum, the proportion of Jews recently got outpaced by that of Muslims in this country, and even with the isolated (exceptional) incidents perpetrated by juvenile hate-mongering delinquents upon Jewish institutions, I haven't seen Canadian Jews freak out en masse and demand punitive collective demographic measures (punishment) be taken on all Canadian Muslims.

    As a slight (and extremely ironic) counterexample, I think of the tragically pathetic "rationalizations" coming from some bigoted corners of Israeli Jewish society who actually advocate stripping Israeli Arabs of their Israeli citizenship and "deporting the Arabs elsewhere" in the name of "ensuring demographic balance" or "the Jewish character" and I feel a strange mix of shameful revulsion and homesickness at once.

    Maybe we need to start reevaluating whether we think it's more important that our children and grandchildren to think, look, and talk exactly like us, or whether we'll realize the futility of much of this type of social control and just allow ourselves to evolve as we will, and not according to the whims of our best fear-mongers?

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  2. Clint Eastwood: "Go ahead...make my day!"

    Your friendly neighbourhood Mississauga Guy: "I won't even try. Editor made MY day!!!"

    Editor, I can't thank you enough. You have a GR-R-REAT day, too!

    Trolls, eat Editor's words!

    Regards,

    Mississauga Guy!

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  3. This is a problem: extending education beyond CEGEPS. The urban dictionnary is replacing everything, the mind of the ANglos are in sports.
    So we will have bill 101 extended, we see a bad exemple.
    Quebec city was very 'purist" more French, no English sign. Montreal was always interpretated as the "French Toronto" according to them, but they were right all along. It's not worth trying to be a "cosmopolitan" like we used to be.... this is part of the "Age de la Noirceur" which is a very distinctive era of hostility from the English towards the French. It has marked us all, it includes "la crise d'Octobre" which stopped francophonie and their rights.
    We should never give in one inch. NO TO ANGLOPHONES>

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  4. The fact that Canada is increasingly English doesn't really change anything here. The ROC is what it is right now. Quebec, I believe, is on the cusp of it's evolution and ready to take the next step. Now whether that is full separation, sovereignty-association, partition after separation, partition while still part of Canada, or a continuation of the status quo, remains to be seen.

    I doubt the immigrants that come to Quebec really get split down the middle. Seems much too black and white, and belive me, there's allot of grey. What about trilinguals? They should be taken into account too. And besides, I really don't think the language immigrants adopt is important. They can still identitfy primarily with the French and not be separatist (which is the way it should be in Quebec in my oppinion). The only important statistic would be which percentage of new immigrants to Quebec are successfully brainwashed to the separatist dogma.

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  5. "Etoile filante said...
    This is a problem: extending education beyond CEGEPS. The urban dictionnary is replacing everything, the mind of the ANglos are in sports.
    So we will have bill 101 extended, we see a bad exemple.
    Quebec city was very 'purist" more French, no English sign. Montreal was always interpretated as the "French Toronto" according to them, but they were right all along. It's not worth trying to be a "cosmopolitan" like we used to be.... this is part of the "Age de la Noirceur" which is a very distinctive era of hostility from the English towards the French. It has marked us all, it includes "la crise d'Octobre" which stopped francophonie and their rights.
    We should never give in one inch. NO TO ANGLOPHONES> "

    I'm about 87% sure this person actually is the reincarnation of Adolf Hitler.

    Even AngloBuster isn't as neurotically deranged as this guy.

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  6. "this is part of the "Age de la Noirceur" which is a very distinctive era of hostility from the English towards the French"

    Lol, clearly very distinctive. That's why it's getting so much press on the global stage. 'Cause it's so dinstinctive.

    "It has marked us all, it includes "la crise d'Octobre" which stopped francophonie and their rights."

    a) That is no longer relevant to today's society. I suppsoe we should prepare for the invasion of Russian communism too.

    b) The right to blow up innocent people?

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  7. Editor: "It has everything to do with immigration and nothing else"

    Both globalization (which includes immigration) and modernization (technologies like the internet bring alternatives into people's lives and plurality to societies. Both make it much harder for governments these days to close people in a bubble.

    In its “cultural politics”, the gouvernemaman can flex its muscles, do some posturing, and maybe succeed in the regions for the time being, but in the long run it's still a David vs Goliath type of thing when Quebec bureaucrats and social engineers try to tackle global trends.

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  8. Well the immigration is a good thing. With the overall population increasing in the rest of Canada, maybe we can send some of the overflow into Quebec to keep diluting it.

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  9. "Even AngloBuster isn't as neurotically deranged as this guy."

    Merci!

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  10. I know these are just the Canadian area codes, but wouldnt this be a good general idea for a map-out as to how Quebec would/should be partitioned in the event of secession? J would be a whole new province with Montreal as a capital, and G would be the new Republique Quebecoise.

    http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Canadian_postal_district_map.svg

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  11. "That is no longer relevant to today's society."


    How dare you saying this ? This happened to all the French people of my generation and our parents. You are too young and from an English backgroug part of it from the West, according to your CV. Your background is totally different. You are not a withness from the history of Montreal.

    "a) I suppsoe we should prepare for the invasion of Russian communism too.

    b) The right to blow up innocent people? "

    What kind of remark is this, for someone who is "supposed" to be educated ?

    Go back to Calgary cowboy, it makes me laugh when I see you are of those who believe in the readings of The lords of the Ring.

    You are the pusher of the IMMIGRATION, the bad and the "feu et à sang de la populace islamique" cette population qui va foutre l'Amérique en l'air et vous êtes trop bête pour vous rendre compte des dégâts que l'Egypte est en train de créer, une révolution qui mettra en danger l'Amérique tout entière. D'ici 5 ans, vous deviendrez la "chose" la plus basse dans le pays, parce que vous êtes contre le français. Moi je suis pour. Je conteste votre manque de jugement pour ne pas vous défendre de l'immmigration actuelle. Les français eux se sont toujours défendus.

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  12. @anon 3:02

    If your against immigration that means it has to be good for the anglos and allos of quebec.

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  14. to etoile filante: GET A LIFE! lol!!! or a job..... ; )

    You and your ilk are no better than the Curie doing his rounds to make sure the 'liitle ladies' of the house were pregnant in order to populate French Catholic Quebec. That was the 'noirceur' and you M. Etoile are perpetuating another kind of 'noirceur' that of French unilingualism. Don't you see that allophone kids are trilingual and the 'de souche' Francophone kids only speak French! My allophone kids (they are 4th generation Italo-Quebecois) go to French school and feel sorry for their Franco peers who only speak French. My kids and the other allos only feel contempt for the Nazi lunch ladies who try to enforce French only in the school yard. The kids instinctively know that this is an infringement upon their right to freedom of expression. My high schooler calls them Fascists. Can't keep the truth away from the kids.

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  15. To anonymous February 5, 2011 8:10 AM : ''Don't you see that allophone kids are trilingual and the 'de souche' Francophone kids only speak French!'' Tout à fait faux: les francophones apprennent tous l'anglais comme langue seconde et plusieurs apprennent une troisième langue. Pour ce qui est des enfants allophones, je vous signale qu'il est normal qu'ils apprennent la langue de leur pays (lieu) d'accueil ! Pas de quoi monter cela en fierté nationale. Finalement, vu la mauvaise éducation des enfants d'aujourd'hui, on peut affirmer que la vérité ne sort malheureusement plus de leur bouche ! Votre mépris est surtout misérable et démontre bien votre petitesse d'esprit. Ne soyez pas désolé pour les unilingues, lorsqu'il auront besoin de maîtriser une autre langue, ils le feront. Que dire de ces anglos qui habitent au Québec depuis des décennies qui ne parlent un mot de français ! Exécrables !

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  16. "My allophone kids (they are 4th generation Italo-Quebecois) go to French school and feel sorry for their Franco peers who only speak French..."

    Et les canadians parlent combien de langues? Vos enfants sont-ils désolés pour eux aussi?Pour les amerlocs unilingues ,tant qu'a y être...Mister ravioli?Les osties de racistes ne sont pas ceux que vous croyez.En passant monsieur le rital,vous n'auriez pas construit le chalet de JJC par hasard?

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  17. "The kids instinctively know that this is an infringement upon their right to freedom of expression."

    Vos enfants n'ont pas que des droits.Ils ont aussi des devoirs et des obligations et un de ceux-ci est de respecter la langue officielle de leur terre d'acceuil ou de domicile.

    De plus,si vous craignez tant les nazis,vous n'êtes qu'a quelques kilomètres
    du royaume des droits et libertés.Seriez-vous un autre de ces anglos masochistes qui ne sait pas comment se rendre jusqu'a la 401?

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  18. The blog removes everything defensive.... Suzanne hello !!!!!!!!
    Les Canadiens parlent la langue qui leur plait: français ou anglais, souvent les deux. Leur vie sociale est souvent entremêlée par les deux.
    Etoile filante is right.Nothing can stop people to continue their life in French or in English. If one is too heavy on the other, people do the necessary things to correct the MOTHER TONGUE, which Jason doesn't understand as he is from the Generation Harry Potter and carry a crest of Canada.(an ass kisser).

    Please, please don't explain how people live, what they speak... I knew all that, lived all that and you were not born.
    Please buy and read Perret, the history of linguistics. You may learn some things.

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  19. Je crois que monsieur est ravi au lit. Oui. Il ne pense qu'à lui ! D'un vulgaire terrible. Les jurons et commentaires à jurons français devraient être retirés sur le blog. L'Editeur ne comprend pas la culture française acceptable, ses normes sont insuffisantes. Je vais rapporter ce blog infecte.

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  20. The unilingual French which I am reffering here are not unilingual. They are getting more with latin languages. English erodes a latin language, any latin language. Nobody has nothing to think in linguistics here ? Nobody knows a thing about it. Well, German would be a natural language to learn for you Anglos ? but you don't have such luck. The country was discovered with the French flag under François 1er.
    Please read something else than Harry Potter, for heavens' sake !

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  21. La ville de Longueuil est un endroit que Jason connait. J'y étais lorsque Jason n'était pas encore né. L'auteur Arlette Couture, est née près (Saint-Lambert),l'auteure des Filles de Caleb.

    Ce que Jason proclame n'et pas accepté dans le Longueuil d'aujourd'hui. Ces notions ne sont pas populaires. Même pas à Greenfield Park, car ces gens-là épousent souvent des francophones. La langue maternelle continue....elle !Les gens s'entendent mieux en anglais et en français, il n'y a que Jason qui crache sa crise d'ado sur le blog je crois ! ha! ha ! ton cv m'a ouvert les yeux bonhomme.

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  22. "Les jurons et commentaires à jurons français devraient être retirés sur le blog."

    Monsieur (ou Madame?)Je vous propose de quitter la blogosphère et de retouner écouter radio Ville-Marie.
    Les blogues sont des lieux d'expressions libres qui ne sont pas encore affublés par la censure d'une certaines classe de puritains archaiques.

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  23. "Etoile filante is right.Nothing can stop people to continue their life in French or in English. If one is too heavy on the other, people do the necessary things to correct the MOTHER TONGUE, which Jason doesn't understand as he is from the Generation Harry Potter and carry a crest of Canada.(an ass kisser)."
    You're the one who forces people to speak the language of Moliere. Give me one example where people are forced by the law to speak English in the ROC. And give me one example where Jason said everyone should be living in English. Do me a favor and go get yourself another pack of May Wests.

    " English erodes a latin language, any latin language. Nobody has nothing to think in linguistics here ?"
    Apparently you don't, or else you would know that a big chunk of the English language comes from Latin. It is a Germanic language, and certain % is also derived from French
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Origins_of_English_PieChart_2D.svg

    "The country was discovered with the French flag under François 1er"
    What kind of sick twisted logic is that? We were here first and therefore everyone must speak our language. Here's a newsflash for you: New France was given to Great Britain by the French because they didn't give a fuck about you. The territory of Quebec that you know today was designated by us. And it is us that gave you the power to pass laws regarding schools, language and culture. And Canada as we know it today was founded in 1867, by Queen Victoria. May I also remind you that it was George Etienne who wanted a united, federated Canada. Your revisionist history doesn't cut it with me. I'm not your typical unqualified separatist history teacher at l'ecole secondaire.

    Get a fucken clue you tard. Get out of Saguenay Lac Saint Jean for once in your life.

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  24. "
    Les blogues sont des lieux d'expressions libres qui ne sont pas encore affublés par la censure d'une certaines classe de puritains archaiques. "

    Vous direz cela aux Egyptiens qui mettent une sandale au nez de l'affiche d'Obarak, vous me faites rire avec votre fausse modestie d'anglais offensé par mon bon jugement. Il ne s'agit pas de puritanisme. Ceci est votre culture, pas la mienne.


    [Pourquoi ? Parce que le puritanisme provient du courant calviniste qui désirait « purifier » l'Église d'Angleterre du catholicisme, qui s'est développée en Angleterre à partir de 1559 et en Nouvelle Angleterre à partir de 1630.]



    Vous voulez dire que vous n'écoutez pas les gens qui ont de l'éducation, ce qui est différent. Vous lisez des choses sans doute mièvres... Sans doute vous ne connaissez ni le latin, ni le grec mon bonhomme. Vous faites partie de la populace,"crass". Le blog Stephen retire des choses qui se disent sur le dos des Anglais. Alors ? pourquoi pas pour nous les Français ? hein !!!!!!!!!!
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    (What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander !!! hello !!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

    You are becoming afraid little Harpon, now that the gloves are off. You like to harpoon, but not to be harpooned.

    Typical english.... and coward.
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    A mon tour, je vous propose donc de quitter la gente pauvre d'esprit et de vous faire instruire. Vous n'êtes pas obligé d'écouter Ville Marie ! Les postes anglais sont terribles ! ingares !que de l'annonce et un language tronqué sans bon sens. Autrefois les universités pouvaient mâter les étudiants au sein de la radio universitaire.

    C'est vous qui parlez de "péquenot" (translates to hillbilly )? vous êtes pire! Vous ne savez pas discerner les classes sociales, l'histoire de celles-ci, les politiques, l'histoire de celles-ci, encore moins les lois.



    L'enfer c'est vous autres ! Le diable est anglais !(aussi chanson de BB)

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  25. TO THE LOVELY ANGLO MONTREALER:


    I am very pleased Anglo Montrealer is angry. He will remain angry and uneducation. Lots of people have noticed his lack of knowledge on this site.


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    The origins of Quebec go back to 1534–35, when the French explorer Jacques Cartier landed at present-day Gaspé and took possession of the land in the name of the king of France.

    Cartier brought with him the 16th-century European traditions of mercantile expansion to a land where a few thousand Indians (First Nations) and Inuit (the Arctic people of Canada known as Eskimo in the United States) had been living for thousands of years. Permanent European settlement of the region began only in 1608, when Samuel de Champlain established a fort at Nouvelle-France.

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    So when you drive in lovely Montreal,and you see Pont /Jacques Catier Bridge/

    hello!!!! yes it's in reference to him, think about it.

    When you hear Pont Champlain, it's not afater Britain ok! (it's in reference to the French navigator, cartographer, draughtsman, soldier, explorer, geographer, ethnologist, diplomat, and chronicler, who founded Quebec City on July 3, 1608.)

    (and there are a lot of streets named after British general in Montreal.)

    So your world starts with the conquest the English conquest which is 1756. But before that my world was existing, and it was called Nouvelle-France. You can see a lot of movies on it if you don't like to read.

    Bye the way the British Empire doesn't mean much to the French, but they recognize their history, unlike you who souds like a vacuum. Why ? because they were abused by the English.

    Check google for the facts. And there is a lifetime of books you should read on it.

    MY FEE to educate you: $150.00
    it will go to the Quebec funds in order to educate you in French.

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  26. To the hot dog pool room
    Anglo Montrealer !

    Queen Victoria is not the founder of anything at all. (Alheizeimer society can help you perhaps)


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    The first regime of Canada is French.
    The second regime of Canada is English.
    All the little kids from "grammar" schools know that dude.
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    The French are forced in a confederation. Just another province.

    1867: At the first provincial elections in August, the province of Quebec must choose between the proconfederation "Bleus" and the "Rouges" who oppose the new constitution. The Rouges' program is not very well defined, but it is not without similarity to the project of sovereignty-association that will be discussed 90 years later. Despite the threats of the Church who warn that a vote against confederation is a mortal sin, no less than 45% of Québec votes Rouge. We know today that the election was stolen in many ridings. Many proconfederation candidates won doubtful victories with majorities of only 6 votes. Joseph Cauchon is chosen Prime minister of Québec. But the antipathy of the English-speakers of the province keeps him from assembling a cabinet. He is replaced with Pierre-Joseph-Olivier Chauveau.

    1867 and Queen Victoria

    Les armoiries du Québec ont été adoptées par mandat de la reine Victoria en 1868 et modifiées par le gouvernement du Québec en 1939. Figurent sur l’écu:

    Trois fleurs de lis d’or: souvenir du premier régime politique, à l’époque de la Nouvelle-France (1608-1763);
    Un léopard d’or: symbole de la Couronne britannique, qui correspond au deuxième régime politique du pays (1763-1867);
    Une branche d’érable à triple feuille: image d’un des principaux produits naturels du Québec.
    Au-dessous de l’écu, un listel porte la devise emblématique du Québec : « Je me souviens ». Elle figure officiellement au bas des armoiries du Québec depuis 1939, mais elle était déjà utilisée depuis 1883, alors que l’architecte de l’hôtel du Parlement, Eugène-Étienne Taché, les fit inscrire au-dessus de la porte principale. Cette devise fait référence, selon Ernest Gagnon, secrétaire du département des Travaux publics au moment de la construction du Parlement, à «la raison d’être du Canada de Champlain et de Maisonneuve comme province distincte dans la Confédération».

    My fee: $190.00
    for the cause of French Quebec.

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  28. Le Régime français (1534-1760)

    Voici quelques exemples d'événements à te rappeler Anglo Montreal!
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    1534 Jacques Cartier prend possession du Canada au nom du roi de France.

    1535-1536 Second voyage de Cartier.

    1541-1542 Troisième voyage de Cartier.

    1608 3 juillet: Fondation de Québec par Samuel de Champlain.

    1612 Samuel de Champlain est nommé lieutenant de la Nouvelle-France; il le sera à nouveau en 1633.

    1615 Arrivée des premiers missionnaires.

    1617 Louis Hébert, premier colon au Canada, s’établit à Québec avec sa famille.

    1627 Fondation de la Compagnie des Cents-Associés par Richelieu, qui lui confie le peuplement de la «Nouvelle-France dite Canada».

    1629 Les Anglais (frères Kirke) capturent la Nouvelle-France, à nouveau libre en 1632

    1634 Fondation de Trois-Rivières.

    1635 Fondation du Collège des jésuites, à Québec.

    1636 Charles Huault de Montmagny, premier gouverneur et lieutenant-général de la Nouvelle-France.

    1639 Les Ursulines arrivent à Québec; les hospitalières augustines fondent l’Hôtel-Dieu de Québec.

    1642 17 mai. Fondation de Ville-Marie, aujourd’hui Montréal, par Paul Chomedey de Maisonneuve.

    1648-1650 Destruction de la Huronie par les Iroquois.

    ..../2 (à suivre)

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    1658 Mgr François de Laval devient vicaire apostolique de la Nouvelle-France; il sera nommé évêque en 1674.

    1663 La Nouvelle-France devient colonie royale !!

    1665 Jean Talon est nommé intendant; après un passage en Europe, il occupera à nouveau le poste en 1670.

    1672 Louis de Buade de Frontenac et de Palluau est nommé gouverneur; il occupera à nouveau cette fonction en 1689.

    1672-1673 Louis Jolliet et le père Jacques Marquette atteignent le Mississippi.

    1694-1697 Campagnes de Pierre Lemoyne d’Iberville à Terre-Neuve et à la baie d’Hudson.

    1701 Paix de Montréal entre la Nouvelle-France et les cinq nations iroquoises.

    1713 Signature du traité d’Utrecht, mettant fin à la Guerre de succession d’Espagne. La France perd l’Acadie, Terre-Neuve et la baie d’Hudson.
    1731-1743 Explorations de la famille La Vérendrye dans l’Ouest.

    1737 Ouverture du Chemin du Roy, entre Montréal et Québec.

    1755 Les Britanniques déportent les Acadiens, qui vivaient alors dans ce qui est aujourd’hui la Nouvelle-Écosse depuis 150 ans.

    1756-1763 Guerre de sept ans.

    1758 Victoire des Français, commandés par Louis-Joseph, marquis de Montcalm, à Carillon (aujourd’hui Ticonderoga, état de New York).
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    La Nouvelle - France change d'auteur.

    La guerre de Sept Ans (1756-1763) est un conflit majeur du XVIIIe siècle souvent comparé à la Première Guerre mondiale par le fait qu’il s’est déroulé sur de nombreux théâtres d’opérations (Europe, Amérique du Nord, Inde ...) et se traduit par un rééquilibrage important des puissances européennes. De là est né l’Empire britannique, espace dominateur mondial tout au long du XIXe siècle. (Ceci est maintenant un peu différent)

    Le Premier espace colonial français, espace dominateur mondial tout au long des XVIIe et XVIIIe siècles, disparaîtra presque entièrement à l'issue de cette guerre.

    Ce conflit opposa principalement le Royaume de France au Royaume de Grande-Bretagne d’une part, l’Archiduché d'Autriche au Royaume de Prusse d’autre part. Cependant, par le jeu des alliances et des opportunismes, la plupart des pays européens et leurs colonies se sont retrouvés en guerre.

    Le début de la guerre est généralement daté au 29 août 1756 (attaque de la Saxe par Frédéric II) bien que l’affrontement ait débuté plus tôt dans les colonies d’Amérique du Nord avant de dégénérer en guerre ouverte en Europe.

    Cette guerre coutera très cher aux Français qui occupaient aussi un marché intéressant dans les Caraibes. Les dettes du pays étant grandes ils n'ont pas pu se payer des flottes pour venir en Nouvelle-France. Pays qui était sanglant et froid l'hiver. etc.......



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    So there is more to history than what you say:
    "they didn't care the fuck...."

    I want you to apologize to all of us,including the Editor and all the readersl look at the little meter on the right hand site of the newspaper please. I demand an apologize and/or a retraction of your low language.

    My fee to you : $200.00
    for the benefits of the poor French Children in the Quebec hospitals.

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  30. 1867 For Anglo Montrealer, don't forget:
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    While the big fat Queen Victoria is sitting on a tub of lard this is what happened:

    1867: Four provinces choose to sign the new federation project; Ontario, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Lower Canada that will now be known as the province of Québec. The vote is very close, but finally, the federation passes in Québec (27 for, 22 against). But George-Étienne Cartier, one of the fathers of this federation along with MacDonald, originally saw this as a pact between two people: the French-Canadien and the English.

    In truth, the deal offers nothing of the sort, and the people of Québec are absolutely not recognised as an equal partner in this deal. Québec is nothing more than a province among four.

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  31. @anon 5:04

    Thats right Quebec was just a province, now it is just a province of 10. It has to be treated as such, it is not a country, but just a parasite province. It leeches off the rest of canada and its own anglo and allo minority.

    To be treated as Equals, one has to treat others the same way. Quebec chooses not to treat its not francophone minorities as equals, there for it does not deserve it either.

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  32. To all the pur lainers from Vigile and other lie filled websites.

    France abandoned Quebec for a small island in the Carribean called Guadelope. They kept only St Pierre and Miquelon. They though 3 small islands were worth more then the entire territory and French population of Quebec. In the 1810s there was a Famine in Quebec due to overpopulation, the British had to send food to Keep Quebec from Starving. Do you think if Quebec was still a French colony, that France would have done the same?

    One of the complaints of the revolutionaries of France(french revolution) was the Louis XV spent to much money on useless Fortress and louisbourg and they view the Acadians and Quebecois the same way USELESS. Acadians that had gone to France to avoid deportation were treated like garbage. The acadians that came to Quebec were treated similar.

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  33. @etoile


    "My fee to you : $200.00
    for the benefits of the poor French Children in the Quebec hospitals. "

    If those children are in the French Sector of Quebec hospitals, I would feel bad for them as well because the care is going to be less then in the English (Quebec gouv. designates them bilingual) hospitals. Just ask Jauques parizeau who went to the Jewish general for treatment

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  34. OK,OK,Ok, perhaps this should be rephrased:

    French only in Quebec officially, doesn't mean you cannot speak three or four languages on your own, or privately. I see lots of Anglos all worried about children,the future, the market etc....

    If Quebec becomes French only (reject of bilinguilism) what will happen linguistically speaking ? Will the English be without communications ?

    Interesting. Because French Europeans are moving to Quebec, it would stimulate more French-speaking communities to do the same and Quebec could benefit. How will it profite the Anglophones? European learn English as well, so English could become a third or fourth language. Let the people follow their priority.Quebecois won't be able to say "we don't speak English" and they will feel Queen and King at home. Mercantilism will change if Quebec becomes independent / or French only/, so let them pause in history, and let them take their own position on how they will be do their own dealings.

    You have to give them the opportunity to breathe....

    If you don't fight them, they will come around and serve you in English. This is 90% guaranteed. This is all in the "market", can't you see ?

    Same thing with the history of restaurants in the XIXth century. What is the rapport ? Knowledge is power. The French knew how to make sauces, fondu, and how to present arfully a meal fit to a King. Unfortunately, they didn't know how the sell a meal.

    This is why England who was so business oriented joined and hired the best French chef to their English pubs and they opened estabishments called restaurants.

    I think it needs a vision and a perspective on things. Put the laws aside for a second, and let's think.

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  35. Just checked out the furore that Maxime Bernier's comment about bill 101 has provoked. Looking forward to the Sunday morning news cycle.

    Expecting the usual media circus that arises, followed by nationalists digging their heels in even more. Rah-rah-rah, combined with self-righteous indignation the expected overall tone. With a dose of we're-French-and-we-need-to-defend-our-institutions-or-we'll-be-extinguished. Renewed separatist agitation, cast in perpetual-existential-struggle language.

    I for one am glad he said what he said. And am even gladder that it came from a fellow francophone, a Quebecer, and someone from the Beauce.

    I say this because this legislation hasn't done squat to help the beleaguered francophones outside the province who genuinely need something to be done. And it has held back the very Quebec francophones whose interests it has purported to serve.

    I don't say any this out of any particular love for the man other than for the very personal and critical examination that preceded such a statement. A good number of us are doing it, and I'm glad a politician from a major party (no matter at what level) has come out. The Conservatives probably won't re-elect a good number of their (11?) Quebec MPs if and when an election does happen, so he's probably got little to lose in calling it like he sees it, and in the view of many (francophones), like it is.

    The cowardly provincial Liberals and the rabid péquistes and other more virulent nationalists, not to mention their co-conspirators at Radio-Canada and other Quebec media outlets, are already making cat food out of him for his statement. How dare he question conventional wisdom; nay, mantra?

    Surely he must be duly chastised; spanked even. Repeatedly. Expect blowback and a rise in support for the Bloc in the wake of his comment. Also something about self-loathing and blindness to how afflicted he is by the disease of the colonized. And opportunism. I don't doubt for a single minute that our one-trick media and pundits won't go into defense mode and attack the man as well as his message as a gloom-and-doom preview of what's to come if we don't get tougher language legislation.

    It is, after all, an important public service to remind francophones province-wide how assaulted we are and how offended we should feel; to this end, our media would be neglecting their responsibilities if they left us in any state of doubt.

    At the same time, the messenger is just as important as the message itself. If Coderre wouldn't (or couldn't) do it, Bernier just did. It's encouraging, if not telling, that a federal Quebec francophone politician with aspirations of eventually leading his own party is willing to go out on a limb and say "tout haut" what a good number of us francophones are thinking - and some of us saying - "tout bas".

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  36. To the ignanoramous @ 4:44 PM

    You have repeated exactly what I said in more details. New France was first settled by Jacques Cartier and the Canada as we know today, was founded by the BRITISH,not the French. John A Macdonald wanted a unitary state, centralizing most power within the federal government. George Etienne Cartier, however, preferred a federation because a federation is meant to preserve cultural differences within a country and essentially to unite different cultures. Cartier was afraid that the French fact in Canada would not survive in a unitary state, like France. No one was forced into the Confederation and the ones who voted against it, like PEI and Newfoundland, didn't join until much later. It is because of Canada's federation that Quebec STILL makes up 80% of the population, despite efforts to assimilate them. Do you honestly think that the French fact in Quebec would still exist in a system like France's? Me think not. Take a Political Science 101 course.

    There was a large support among French Canadians for Confederation, a majority in fact. Although Canada does have two founding nations, Cartier never intended it to be that way. At the start, Lower Canada made up nearly 40% of the population, now it's almost under 20% because there are 10 provinces and 3 territories. Plus many more immigrants choose the language of Shakespeare over that of Moliere's.

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  37. Too bad the anglos are so grumpy here on this site. Take vitamin C, go out, Montreal is full of restaurants and interesting people.... of course you don't won't to mingle and speak French.
    Your snoozing, your loosing, you'll wake up an old coot, an old geezer, an old english fart.
    Au revoir et tachez de lire de bonnes choses !
    La nourriture de l'esprit est excellente pour une bonne direction dans la vie.

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  39. But to the smart ass who thinks I need a Scien Po 101 I can say that he didn't have any exposure to european profs because he thinks like a Canadian who has to come up with an acadamic essay which he "copied" from another text. This is the problem of Ontario. Student graduate and cannot be individual thinker. They have to copy from another work. Canadians are not well educated even if they have a licence to practice something.... anything..... they have no vision, especially the english. A lot of profs from Sciences politiques also have their silly views, which they are not supposed to give students, but obviously one of you was stung by an asswhole who teaches his runny stuff..... morveux.

    Anyway: Canada we have today "Anglo Montreal", has the New France in it, which is Quebec.

    New France was founded by the French. This population, in case you didn't noticed, grew and grew, they didn't disappear! This is us, yes US (twit and a haf!). The French from France stopped from coming here for a while, but the French who were here STAYED HERE, LIVED HERE, AND REPRODUCED HERE, and were not treated well by the English.

    The language froze, their language was continued to have contact with Europe France, by mail etc...

    When Confederation was a subject, this was a few hundreds years after Cartier, Quebec, the French state of Canada was forced in. Read the events I send you idiot and try to understand.

    Your funcken teacher must have had given your notes with a full chapter missing. Idiot, idiot, any garbage man in France is more knowledgeable than you. They will tell you the names of the trees, the history of France and without saying catastrophies like you......

    I think Canada should shut down its schools and unversities for one full year. Save money and start again with other people.

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  40. Le Canada bilingue:

    ONE WAY
    ----->

    SENS UNIQUE
    <-----
    _______________________________________________

    The English State was thought as a principal,yes, but the French at the time (not bilingual English at all) didn't want that state, they were forced in, forced in.

    Sure you can understand why. Supporters of sovereignty for Quebec believe that the current relationship between Quebec and the rest of Canada does not reflect Quebec's social, political and economic development. Just like them at the time. Even if in 1774 the Act of Quebec guaranteed free practice of the Catholic faith and restored, yes restored the use of the French civil law for private matters. (The English at the time obligated us to maintaining the use of the English common law for public administration, including criminal prosecution).
    It was causing a problem to the French.


    It is not a reason (it is very cruel and illegal) to put demographic together and pretend a population will accept to be smuthered on account of demographs. The notions that without appropriately recognizing that the people of Quebec are culturally distinct, that Quebec will remain chronically disadvantaged in favour of the English-Canadian majority will not make them disappear, like the English want so much.

    Bill 101 and other bills will protect them, partially. You cannot "kill" them, and live with them, taking advantage of them at the same time Anglo Montrealer. They are a founding Nation. The First civilized European Nation to have set foot and put their first buildings and live here, as well as fought the Indians (you took the side of the Iroquois). It is old French money and resources and people who founded Quebec, who developped Quebec.

    History. You can say whatever you want, but the History of Quebec is a small segment of the History of France and you cannot erase it.No.No.No.No. I also believe that your history written by English authors carry a very different story than the French history books. Check with friends, library etc... you will be surprised to see discrepencies. Do your homework. I did mine a long, long time ago. This is why "texts" (only) or history by texts which demands a lot of research are less political and tell you the truth between the lines as well. Did you know that ?

    France is not comparable like you say at all. I'm sorry you don't understand an important notion at all here. France is the mother country of the French on Canada. (Never mind calling it Quebec, which was from the Indians).

    Look at the old flag,the fleur de lys, look at the flag of Jason, the ignorant (him too) when he writes on this site. The liberal party of Canada removed my history, in order to depoliticise in favour of the Anglophonie you belong to.

    For you to say anything else is like Hitler who wanted to exterminate the Jewish people. It is the very same thing. Sorry, but you are wearing those shoes and you don't know it.

    My Fee: $$400.00
    To the French of Quebec

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  41. ""That is no longer relevant to today's society."


    How dare you saying this ? This happened to all the French people of my generation and our parents. You are too young and from an English backgroug part of it from the West, according to your CV. Your background is totally different. You are not a withness from the history of Montreal.

    "a) I suppsoe we should prepare for the invasion of Russian communism too.

    b) The right to blow up innocent people? "

    What kind of remark is this, for someone who is "supposed" to be educated ?

    Go back to Calgary cowboy, it makes me laugh when I see you are of those who believe in the readings of The lords of the Ring."

    K you're an idiot. I've lived in Montral my whole life. I lived in Calgary for 3 months. Says so on my profile. Don't talk down to me if you can't read properly.

    "If your against immigration that means it has to be good for the anglos and allos of quebec."

    No correlation between the two. You're simply projecting this.

    "Jason doesn't understand as he is from the Generation Harry Potter and carry a crest of Canada.(an ass kisser)."

    I'm also from a more educated and level-heade generationm. And Im not the Harry Potter generation retardo. Why is it that seppies can never respond to my arguments. The only responses I get are things my 10 year old cousin would call me.

    "La ville de Longueuil est un endroit que Jason connait. J'y étais lorsque Jason n'était pas encore né"

    Hang on a sec here, because you've been there because I was born means I don't know it? Flawed logic mister retardo.

    "Ce que Jason proclame n'et pas accepté dans le Longueuil d'aujourd'hui. Ces notions ne sont pas populaires. Même pas à Greenfield Park, car ces gens-là épousent souvent des francophones. La langue maternelle continue....elle !Les gens s'entendent mieux en anglais et en français, il n'y a que Jason qui crache sa crise d'ado sur le blog je crois ! ha! ha ! ton cv m'a ouvert les yeux bonhomme."

    Clearly it idn't open you eyes very well you freakin moron. I'm pro-French, dating a french-Quebecker and living with her. I'm even an advocate of eliminating the national anthem in English. Don't act like you know me you little turd.

    "Etoile filante is right"

    This is the exact point where you lost all credibility.

    "Les blogues sont des lieux d'expressions libres qui ne sont pas encore affublés par la censure d'une certaines classe de puritains archaiques."

    Wanna bet? I can name you a French blog right now that banned posts in English. Freedom of speech you say?

    ..... I think I'm donw with these people for a bit. It's like trying to explain things to a brick wall.

    No progress will ever be made untill both sides admt they've made mistakes. The English have admitted their mistake and have made concessions accordingly. The ball is still on the seppies side of the court.

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  42. Well, Jason is doing well. I wonder what he will be when he will reach the age of 80.... wow!!! He won't have a French wife, I hope not.
    Stay with your kind......my big fellow.


    A minority inside another minority... ha, not too clever if you are allergic to French. Your' mind is slow to learn, sans doute...
    If Jason is pro-French, his arguments are opposite and his language is abrasive.

    Clearly the blog here is very loose, like the b... of a moose.
    Jason has a French girlfriend...
    When love will be gone...watch out !
    Jason you will have to Call the female moose elsewhere than in Quebec !

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  43. Freedom of speech is not freedom to use any kind of language.

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  44. If you shack with French girlfriend and if you are a so-called pro French, why can't you write in French to a French blog ?

    One day your rug rats will write on your behalf, as they will have their French mother tongue.

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  45. "History. You can say whatever you want, but the History of Quebec is a small segment of the History of France and you cannot erase it.No.No.No.No. I also believe that your history written by English authors carry a very different story than the French history books. Check with friends, library etc... you will be surprised to see discrepencies. Do your homework. I did mine a long, long time ago. This is why "texts" (only) or history by texts which demands a lot of research are less political and tell you the truth between the lines as well. Did you know that"
    Really? Is that why Concordia's Political Science Department is world renowned while UQAM's isn't? At least history teachers in the English secondary school sector are qualified, and not some hate filled separatist bigot like in your ecole secondaire. Get a clue

    "that Quebec will remain chronically disadvantaged in favour of the English-Canadian majority will not make them disappear, like the English want so much."
    You and your ilk are the ones who passed ethnic cleansing laws against the English minority. Other Canadian provinces should have their own versions of Bill 101, just to give you bigots a taste of your medicine.

    "Bill 101 and other bills will protect them, partially. You cannot "kill" them, and live with them, taking advantage of them at the same time Anglo Montrealer. They are a founding Nation. The First civilized European Nation to have set foot and put their first buildings and live here, as well as fought the Indians (you took the side of the Iroquois). It is old French money and resources and people who founded Quebec, who developped Quebec."
    Firstly, stop being fucking paranoid. You're the one who hates anglophones and other ethnic minorities, and you've made it very clear. Secondly, prior to the invasion Montreal and Quebec City were nothing but trading posts. Montreal became a world renowned city under the control of the Loyalists and French Canadians alike (we should also not forget the role of the Irish workers). This is why the Montreal flag contains 4 coat of arms.

    "Look at the old flag,the fleur de lys, look at the flag of Jason, the ignorant (him too) when he writes on this site. The liberal party of Canada removed my history, in order to depoliticise in favour of the Anglophonie you belong to"
    Wtf are you talking about? They're the ones who initiated the language laws. They're the ones who used the notwithstanding clause (Bill 178). Liberals are even more despotic than the PCul.

    "My Fee: $$400.00
    To the French of Quebec"
    My fee to you:
    $100 000 for every single person that was forced out of Quebec.

    100 000 X 250 000 = $25 million

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  46. The bill should be sent to you. You are the culprit.not me.

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  47. I am not defending the english idiot! your the one who is so anti french hypocrit!
    wtf+ wtf= beautiful people you are using this language. No wonder why people don't want to associate with people of your kind.

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  48. Bon , tous ce débat est devenu une histoire de quel peuples entre les anglo et les francos qui est supérieur a l'un ou l'autres...e-peen battle.

    Demandez vous pas pourquoi l'apartheid va durer longtemps au Québec...les 2 cotés se balancent la balles pour savoir c'est qui le plus nazis et le plus idiots des 2 camps....

    Quel perte de temps...

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  49. "The bill should be sent to you. You are the culprit.not me"

    You're the one who forced 250 000 Anglophones out of Quebec and continue to discriminate against other ethnicities. Pay your debt and shut the fuck up.

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  50. Quelle perte de temps.
    Quelle perte de tant d'argent pour l'éducation.
    Quelle perte de temps que de demeurer dans une province minoritaire et de posséder la langue minoritaire DE LA PROVINCE. Le Canada est tellement grand, et les esprits sont tellement
    étroits, vous avez raison Math.

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  51. It will be impossible to continue our exchange. Etoile and others have all agreed that there is a huge abuse of power, an abuse of language,a great lack of notions and sophisms which are in contradiction with reality.

    If the blog does have a code of ethic, demanding the sources of notions (especially to the Anglophones) this site is not considered a reputable one, except to help and encourage the Anglophones in French cleansing.

    The Universities in Quebec are already aware of the exchange on this site, also other distinguished and legal institutions. WE expect the blog not to be treated seriously, as only 4 individuals or even less are writing.

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  52. Your fees are hilarious, typical parasite wanting more money. I already pay taxes that go to fund equalization to the parasite province of Quebec and its pro pur laine chauvanist gouvernment. I want to be the repo man and just take some assets like the hydroelectric projects up north as debt collection

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  53. Cela fait 400 ans que nous nous défendons !
    Nous avons l'habitude. C'est une saleté que de demeurer 2 camps au Québec. L'autre camp, le camp anglais est une bête qui dévore tout !
    (Greedy and arrogant worst with the new punk generation who knows half the history of Canada and ignores Europe's history totally)
    They prefer to kick the French like a ball and drink beer, making a living in Quebec. (at least they contribute to the old age pension)

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  54. Blah, blah, blah. here's an old one from the eighties..... " Robert Bourassa dies and get's to heaven's gate. He finds the gate locked and yells "St Peter, St Peter let me... St Peter replies.. Mr Bourassa english on the inside and French on the outside.....

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  55. "If the blog does have a code of ethic, demanding the sources of notions (especially to the Anglophones) this site is not considered a reputable one, except to help and encourage the Anglophones in French cleansing."
    Statistics spoke otherwise until 2006. The Anglophone population was dropping enormously because of your ethnic cleansing laws. You should go to Iran or North Korea. They would love people like you there. That's where you belong.

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  56. Etoile, Feb 5, 8:16PM: “I think it needs a vision and a perspective on things. Put the laws aside for a second, and let's think.”

    What do you mean “put the laws aside”? Why don’t you put it aside by following Maxime Bernier’s advice and abolishing 101? Once you do that, we won’t talk about it anymore, or we will do it occasionally with the same scorn and ridicule people talk about Prohibition today: “can you believe that once upon a time there was a law that regulated the size of the language on signs, and there was a language police to enforce these laws?”

    But for as long as the laws are in effect, talking about them will continue. Especially if we’re talking about laws that cramp our style and restrict some of our basic rights.

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    Anon Feb 6, 10:57AM : “A minority inside another minority... ha, not too clever if you are allergic to French.”

    A minority inside ANOTHER MINORITY is PRECISELY correct. You have created a whole new social science filled with Francophones, Allophones, and Anglophones, to rationalize your “majority” status, but for all that time you have continued to act like a scared, insecure, neurotic, and hypersensitive minority… precisely because in a slightly larger context you ARE nothing but a tiny minority, and we see you as such.

    Notice how Quebec social engineers insist that the term “Anglophone” applies ONLY to the English-speakers in Quebec, RARELY to the English-speakers in the RoC, and NEVER to the English-speakers in the US. That way, they conveniently separated the Quebec English-speakers from all other English-speakers, by putting them in an arbitrary category of its own.

    But replace the term “Anglophone” with “English-speaker”, and all of a sudden, the 10-20% Allo-Anglo “minority” becomes a 98% majority, while the 80% Francophone “majority”, become a 2% minority.

    Anon, see how demographic acrobatics is a double edged sword? So be careful when playing with it. It might cut you too when you least expect it.

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  57. Apparatchik: "Expecting the usual media circus that arises, followed by nationalists digging their heels in even more."

    It was to be expected.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/bernier-blasted-for-calling-historic-quebec-language-law-unnecessary/article1896190/

    http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110206/mtl_cp_bernier_110206/20110206/?hub=MontrealHome

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  58. @adski:
    Bullseye.

    @Pure Laine:
    You said it. Interesting blog btw.

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  59. "The Universities in Quebec are already aware of the exchange on this site, also other distinguished and legal institutions"

    Good for you and your institutions on keeping current. Maybe you can now crawl out of the 1930s politics of race and culture.
    Until you do, there is nothing distinguished about you or your institutions.

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  60. Etoile,

    ‘Look at the old flag,the fleur de lys, look at the flag of Jason, the ignorant (him too) when he writes on this site. The liberal party of Canada removed my history, in order to depoliticise in favour of the Anglophonie you belong to’

    So, I looked at the flag of Jason. It’s Montreal’s coat of arms. I like it. It represents Montreal’s past and honors its contributing peoples. What’s your problem? You want to change and cleanse history too?

    By the way, I appreciate your efforts to write in English; however, can you please take the time to write more coherently. I find your hate filled ramblings rather difficult to follow, and they give me impression that the only point you have to make is just how hostile and emotionally unbalanced you are.

    Seek help before you hurt someone and end up in jail with all of the Anglos you plan to imprison.

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  61. Yes learning another language is really another asset, only when it is exchanged with people who can coherently think at their level. Mais peut-être devrons-nous vous reprocher d'être inexistant en français et d'écrire avec tant de fautes, qu'il est impossible de communiquer.

    So many Anglos are using WTF etc.. , make mistakes, you should reproach your lovely anglos, the majority of the correspondents. You are a jackass, we know that. This is why Bill 101 is straigten you out a bit hey.....

    What aboaut the word racism without knowing what it is, just shouting with caps. Perhaps you shouldn't do that. Eyewithness is not just an eye, he has his finger in the inner sanctum of other people who are saying he isn't worth it.

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  62. The fees expressed are showing a sense of humour. Your sense of humour is dry Anglais. You don't understand ours. So back off. Let the other bicultural people laugh off. In the meantime, I'm happy it is stinging you.
    IGNARE!

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  63. Oui, les anglophones du Québec sont cruels et méchants. Ils s'amusent de ceux qui parlent anglais et français. Comme on dit au Québec: ils nous rendent Bleus Bananes !

    C'est à croire qu'il faut les endurer ! Comment peut-on faire et par surcroît on se fait traiter de fou !

    Excusez-vous bandes de voyous sur le blog de chiens !

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  64. Ah! Ah! you don't have emotions. You have sickness motions. Your ideas are all over the map; and to answer, we follow them, like an octopussy. So your eye has an eye patch, you look at you only:

    Your selfishness is the one of an ego maniac and of a control freak. You are the best, you are the greatest VS/ we are nothing, we don't have history, we don't have....... and you are not anti-French: menteurs et emmerdeurs!

    Vous avez des problèmes à reconnaitre à Montréal.
    -Les symboles urbains, comme les noms à l'appui de la culture provenant des Français, leur logo, leur crest, ainsi que leur architecture. Oui, leur architecture, leurs écoles, leurs Universités, leur système-santé, leurs hôpitaux, leurs églises, leurs Cathédrales, leur système de justice, et d'application du droit, leurs corporations etc...
    LEUR LANGUE, LEUR DRAPEAU, LEUR HYMNE,
    leur abre officiel, leur fleur officielle, etc...
    Emmerdeurs de merde.

    -Le sujet des prisons ?

    L'Établissement de détention de Montréal, mieux connu sous le nom de prison de Bordeaux, est une prison provinciale québécoise située dans le nord de l'Île de Montréal, plus exactement au 800, Boulevard Gouin ouest, Montréal.

    La prison accueille actuellement les détenus masculins condamnés à des peines de deux ans moins un jour d'emprisonnement. On y héberge également des prévenus en attente de procès.

    Elle est la plus importante prison provinciale au Québec, avec une capacité maximale de 1 189 détenus. Les Angliches sont rares !!!!! Vous avez le reste..... bande de méchants....
    My Fee: $250.00
    payable to the Minister of Francophone Affairs

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  65. La Minister Madeleine Meilleur des Francophone Affairs en Ontario se contredit!!!

    Le Droit

    Forum, mardi, 8 janvier 2008, p. 12
    À vous la parole

    Dans l'Ottawa Citizen du lundi 7 janvier, elle dit :
    "Les francophones d'Ontario sont en péril", dit la ministre.

    Il y a deux ans, dans l'édition 2005 des Profils statistiques sur les francophones en Ontario, elle conclut : "Soyez assurés, je suis très optimiste. J'ai la ferme conviction, plus que jamais, que l'avenir appartient aux francophones de l'Ontario."
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    Dans The Ottawa Citizen du Monday, January 07, 2008, elle dit :

    « Ontario francophones threatened, Meilleur says »
    « Les francophones d’Ontario sont en péril, dit la ministre!!! »

    http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=5f4d16bc-7e0d-4434-8651-9d76e9739969

    Dans l'édition 2005 des Profils statistiques sur les francophones en Ontario, du 27 septembre 2005, elle conclut :

    « Soyez assurés, je suis très optimiste. J'ai la ferme conviction, plus que jamais, que l'avenir appartient aux francophones de l'Ontario. »

    http://www.ofa.gov.on.ca/francais/stats.html

    Je lui ai adressée une lettre en octobre 2005, où mes questions sont restées sans réponse.

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  66. In 1971, one in four Canadians (25.7 per cent) spoke French at home. By 2001, thirty years later, the proportion had gone down to 22 per cent.

    All this has to do with immigration, and its unbalanced ratio of Anglo/Franco. If Quebec wants to reverse this trend, it has to find a way to convince immigrating families to adopt French, right away. But Ottawa has the duty to change its immigration policies. At this point immigration policies and planning is nothing else than a plan to resolved the "Francophone problem", as Hitler evilly tried to do at one point in History, as Chineses are doing in Tibet against the Tibetans!

    Assimilation takes place within the first few years of arrival, then to some degree with cégep (3500 yearly, it is not negligeable). Linguistic and immigration policies shall be coherent and serve the sustainability of a unique francophone society in America!
    Immigration and citizenship laws would need to be changed to enforce a just committment to an equilibrated ratio between both French speaking and English speaking immigrants.

    B&B duality, as was at one point by Honorable L.B. Pearsons and Laurendeau Dunton is a formidable asset. All Canadians should be revolted by the immigration policy and claim a fair linguistic composition of immigration. In all cases immigration is too high as a whole, and should be brought back to a sustainable social and economic integration capacity.

    Somehow, in the coming years, with more and more proven evidence, such unstainable levels would translate in more and more security concerns. Conservative government is fooling around with Canada's security ( see SCRS/Simon Fraser studies on the matter).

    Michel Pa

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  67. DONT YOU SEE PEOPLE
    english is the language of the evil(By the way I used google translation to translate this). when i go in the metro, and i see those anglophones... their horrible voice... their ugly faces... and beside i see those francophones.. proud, strong, hot women, good looking.. i think... WHY WOULD YOU BE AN ANGLOPHONE?? and i realize that.. maybe these people are brainwashed or ... evil! America is evil, everything that comes out from it is toxic.. ESPECIALLY THEIR HORRIBLE LANGUAGE.. quebec is like that small human village in LORD OF THE RING that is located just next to the mevil Mountains (in this case CANADA and USA), we are the only line of defence, but we will stand.. and we will win FRANCOPHONES... GOD IS WITH US, KEEP FIGHTING YOU WILL EARN YOUR PLACE IN PARADISE... anglophones (and wanna be anglophones) you can still come join us.. otherwise your soul is going to burn for eternity

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  68. why would you stick with english... ugly bitches, hindus(lmao watta joke), jewS... UGLY UGLY UGLY (canada in quebec) ... on the french side: super hot white french girls.. hot arabs.. hot latinas... nice blacks.. people having fun. west island is so depressing its like a cancer... but eventually it will die: 150 YEARS AGO, QUEBEC CITY HAD 40% ANGLOS today, all assimilated remaining less than 1%... dont forget anglos from the country in quebec are 100% assimilated.. and dont forget montreal was 70 (!!) years ago 70% english... i switched from english to french because i did want my childs to be part of a growing and constantly changing community, not a super conservative depressing bunch of ugly ass not eve able to speak english immigrant community that will be assimilated anyways (english)

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  69. I beg you Anglo and Allo , let them separate.They are not capable of sustainig themselfs . They have to have a Host to live on. This will be the end.

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