tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post6985589176094177588..comments2024-02-17T03:22:53.951-05:00Comments on No Dogs or Anglophones: Is Mario Beaulieu Dastardly Clever or Just an IdiotEditorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05699783315783642466noreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-67321478816606324912013-10-18T17:30:42.022-04:002013-10-18T17:30:42.022-04:00Mario Beaulieu is most certainly doing all this de...Mario Beaulieu is most certainly doing all this deliberately. There is no doubt, the funding he receives federally, provincially and by donations makes the issue of the ''decline of French'' critical to his own well-being. I have also heard Bill 14 was written by him & Co. Definetely not your village idiot, more like the village priest.MBBMhttps://www.facebook.com/MontrealConcordiaSalusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-33162034674409672012012-07-02T20:46:02.293-04:002012-07-02T20:46:02.293-04:00Because english is what made it become a metropoli...Because english is what made it become a metropolis for the record...Denying the english language in Montreal, is denying a huge part of it!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-30004681552146594962010-03-30T23:07:42.999-04:002010-03-30T23:07:42.999-04:00''Montreal remains bilingual.'' Wh...''Montreal remains bilingual.'' Why Montréal should be more bilingual than Ottawa ? And what about Toronto ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-18263832246252427132010-03-30T22:23:51.953-04:002010-03-30T22:23:51.953-04:00To anonymous at 12:05pm, 26 march 2010- ''...To anonymous at 12:05pm, 26 march 2010- ''Geez, it really turns my stomach that a foreigner would come here and dictate to me what language I should or shouldn’t speak. English is an official language of Canada, and Quebec is still a Canadian province falling under federal jurisdiction.'' <br /><br />Thanks for giving me reason !<br /><br />I agree with you,that's why the argument that Loi 101 restrain the access to english schools is a infamy is only use to propaganda against Québécois francophones. The newcomers don't have to choose, they go in the schools to hold the majority and speak the language of the majority : FRENCH. English school is for the Québécois anglophones minority and the cases expect in the Law.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-40759322434873621332010-03-26T12:05:02.222-04:002010-03-26T12:05:02.222-04:00To anonymous at 5:22 PM:
Geez, it really turns my...To anonymous at 5:22 PM:<br /><br />Geez, it really turns my stomach that a foreigner would come here and dictate to me what language I should or shouldn’t speak. English is an official language of Canada, and Quebec is still a Canadian province falling under federal jurisdiction. No one is saying that English should be imposed upon Quebecois, but the English language shouldn't be restricted or banned in Quebec either, as is currently the case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-58068527551107671122010-03-25T23:33:00.340-04:002010-03-25T23:33:00.340-04:00Is there anything else than anonymous people in th...Is there anything else than anonymous people in this discussion? <br /><br />anonymous responding to anonymous, how ackwardly wonderful.Tym_Machinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10815495714187962909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-63926315060968296002010-03-25T17:22:00.613-04:002010-03-25T17:22:00.613-04:00''What shit-hole country did you come from...''What shit-hole country did you come from anyways? Haiti? I suggest you go back. We don't need shit disturbers like you in Canada.'' <br /><br />I see something like the real face of CANADIAN TOLERANCE ! Full of principles but lies at the end ! In Québec, English is also SECOND LANGUAGE, WE AGREE ! Do you know what means SECOND, after the first...Not trying to impose the second as a first !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-34143976364835896102010-03-24T17:58:18.942-04:002010-03-24T17:58:18.942-04:00To Anonymous at 10:21 and 10:23:
If you travel ar...To Anonymous at 10:21 and 10:23:<br /><br />If you travel around the world you will see that most people choose to speak English as a second language. No one is forcing it upon them, whereas in Quebec French is shoved down everyone's throats.<br /><br />At least Don Cherry had the good sense not to open any of his restaurants in Quebec.<br /><br />What shit-hole country did you come from anyways? Haiti? I suggest you go back. We don't need shit disturbers like you in Canada.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-83671267355179226732010-03-23T22:23:36.068-04:002010-03-23T22:23:36.068-04:00Don Cherry, a great example of bilinguism, i think...Don Cherry, a great example of bilinguism, i think i'll go in one of his restaurants and i'll ask to be served in french like you doing in all the place you go !Rodesians ! In Rome we doing like the romans, never heard about that ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-83186235639897451572010-03-23T22:21:17.465-04:002010-03-23T22:21:17.465-04:00''It's this narrow minded regionalism ...''It's this narrow minded regionalism that is part of your imaginary nation syndrome. Quebec is only a part of a greater whole. The majority of the whole is English. By your reasoning a state of English unilingualism should be enforced across the country'' FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THE GREATER WHOLE IS THE WORLD, maybe you should look other tv channels or pay you a airplane ticket, you'll see that a lot of people on this planet don't care about your imperialism and biggot attitude !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-69279442881131249342010-03-23T11:11:42.168-04:002010-03-23T11:11:42.168-04:00"Which is why I ignore Bill 101 and live in t..."Which is why I ignore Bill 101 and live in this province as I chose despite your little tongue troopers and your fascist VLBs and Beaulieaus."<br /><br />Exactly. That's what I've been doing for years. Let the Beaulieus, Landrys, Perrautlts, Duceppes, Marois's, and Harels bark. That's all they can do. They can't personally force anyone into anything. And despite their “best” efforts, Montreal remains bilingual.<br /><br />And Mario Beaulieu is a twit. He’s a small, petty, frustrated, and vengeful man. A sad, pathetic wreck that hides his insecurities and fears behind virulent rhetoric. Listening to his shameful meanderings hurts my ears and my soul. <br /><br />I bet the guy can't speak a word of English and gets very worried and insecure watching all the immigrants around him (myself included) - as well as many Francophones - become proficient in English and move onto greener pastures, while he is stuck "protecting" his language while noone else cares anymore.<br /><br />It's his way of running away from reality. I wish he could physically run away. Very far away, preferably. Like Gaspe or Estrie, or the Laurentides, where he could live all in French and leave us alone.adskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04196014962059056067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-68921359585731561742010-03-21T14:08:44.279-04:002010-03-21T14:08:44.279-04:00I never said Canada should be unilingual. I favour...I never said Canada should be unilingual. I favour Swiss-style language laws. Quebec should be French-only and the rest of the country essentially English-speaking. I could make a VERY strong case that Canada would be better off without Quebec, but that is a different subject. The Trudeau imposed Pan-Canada wide bilingualism is a disaster. It was sold to gullible Canadians (who were never allowed to vote for it) in 1969 on the grounds it would end Quebec separatism and bring peace. Let's see now. The FLQ attacks. The October Crisis. P.Q. elected in 1976. Referendum in 1980. Another one in 1995. Meech Lake. The B.Q. The policy has just not worked. The Francophones in Queebc are still insecure about French and the rest of Canada is burdened with "bilingualism". For anyone who wants a different take on what passes for Canadian "values" please read Mr Brimelow's excellent book, THE PATRIOT GAME.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-85718518964716874632010-03-21T11:29:06.276-04:002010-03-21T11:29:06.276-04:00"Bilingualism restricts the vast majority of ..."Bilingualism restricts the vast majority of Canadians from working in the federal goverment or public life especially at a senior level."<br /><br />Are you suggesting then that millions of Francophones in Quebec should not have access to their federal representatives and services in their language? French is not imposed on you in Toronto, but if you do want to work at a senior level in the federal government then you should at least be able to communicate with Canada's largest minority and other founding culture. Besides, I would expect that someone seeking employment at a high level in government would have the intellect to acquire a second language.<br />Assuming the country became exclusively unilingual, what would the role of Quebec be then? The second most populous province would in effect be ostracized from the federation and politically marginalized and unrepresentd, as they've done themselves to the minorities within Quebec. Do you really think Canada is better off without Quebec? Essentially, are you willing to trade off the entire province because Canadians seeking federal employment can't be bothered to learn a second language?<br /><br />"To a more limited extent Quebecers in general benefit from the policy because it gives them a de facto edge in prference for hiring in Ottawa."<br /><br />This is true but there are also thousands of jobs available in the federal government that are not bilingual imperative and are not located in Ottawa. You have the entire country to work in with a cushy federal position. And if you do manage to learn French, you'll even get a bilingualism bonus. So what's the problem?<br /><br /> "It amazes me how Montreal Anglos expect the rest of English-speaking Canada to support them in a policy from which they are the only group of Anglos to benefit."<br /><br />It's not just Montreal Anglos. There are also other minorities in Montreal who make up the bulk of the islands population. They also represent the financial and business centre of the province. And not least, there are the Francophones who retain their Canadian identity and are fully bilingual. What you would be throwing under the bus is not a few hundred thousand Anglos, but the Canadian identity in the province of Quebec, in the very place of its birth.<br /><br />You know what costs a hell of a lot more than bilingualism? The highly decentralized form of government that forces Canadians to pay for multiple bureaucracies. Not only does it cost more but it's the primary source of the linguistic tension as Quebec nationalists use this pulpit to radicalize an entire province and to bypass essential Canadian rights. Do away with that and the savings and linguistic peace will follow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-19476176550922635852010-03-20T23:44:56.516-04:002010-03-20T23:44:56.516-04:00Reply to anon at 9:10 PM;
I am an Anglo from Toro...Reply to anon at 9:10 PM;<br /><br />I am an Anglo from Toronto. I don't see how territorial unilingualism has anything at all to do with "tolerance". It is just common sense and would buy language peace. How does bilingulaism cause suffering to Canada? First there is history. The Manitoba schools question, bill 17 in Ontario, etc. Had there been T.U. Francophones from Quebec would have been treated like Italians in Toronto or Poles in Manitoba; quietly assimilated. I would mention 900,000 Francophones from Quebec migrated to New England from 1840-1930. They have several million descendents in the USA - but they never caused any trouble in America. Bilingualism is expensive (the true costs are much, much higher then even thoughtful people imagine. I may put up a post on that sometime). Bilingualism restricts the vast majority of Canadians from working in the federal goverment or public life especially at a senior level. When Brian Mulroney was chosen leader of the P.C. in 1983 he had never been elected to anything in his life but he spoke fluent French. As Peter Brimelow wrote in his brilliant book THE PATRIOT GAME, this was his only asset. Only Montreal Anglos and the now rapidly dissolving Francophone comunities outside Quebec really benefit from the costly and unwieldly policy of bilingualism. And as Scott Reid points out in LAMENT FOR A NOTION, all but 50,00 of them can speak English anyways. To a more limited extent Quebecers in general benefit from the policy because it gives them a de facto edge in prference for hiring in Ottawa. But it is a stupid policy. I see absolutely no reason why French is needed here in Toronto or elsewhere in Ontario. It amazes me how Montreal Anglos expect the rest of English-speaking Canada to support them in a policy from which they are the only group of Anglos to benefit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-25683234839385971902010-03-20T21:10:35.376-04:002010-03-20T21:10:35.376-04:00" Why should all Canada suffer to benefit the..." Why should all Canada suffer to benefit the Montreal Anglophones and a few pockets of Francophones outside Quebec?"<br /><br />How would a bilingual Quebec cause suffering to the rest of Canada? It's unilingual at the moment but your tax dollars still flood into the province to fund undemocratic institutions such as the OLF and you still pay the salaries of the Bloc mps.<br /><br />But to answer your question, an equitable society is measured by its treatment of its minorities. Since I suspect you're a Franco-first troll masquerading as an Albertan, I can understand how this sentiment may be lost on you. After all, Quebecers are not famous for their tolerance or their tendencies to provide an equitable environment to their minorities. And if you're not trolling, then you might just be the other side of the same coin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-35226759889312921002010-03-20T17:35:49.639-04:002010-03-20T17:35:49.639-04:00I don't see why Bill 101 is considered "b...I don't see why Bill 101 is considered "bigotry". Language laws should be based on the principle of territorial unilingualism like in Switzerland. Why should all Canada suffer to benefit the Montreal Anglophones and a few pockets of Francophones outside Quebec?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-48134200026617663752010-03-19T15:28:57.760-04:002010-03-19T15:28:57.760-04:00"I'm a Québecois (and Canadien) born in a..."I'm a Québecois (and Canadien) born in an other country"<br /><br />It figures. You probably come from some shit hole in Africa, which would explain your obsession with Rhodesians.<br /><br />How ironic. We welcome immigrants to Canada with open arms and then they cause trouble by supporting the suppression of one of our official languages and even advocate the breakup of the country. The latter is treasonable and should be cause for deportation. Allowing Quebec to control its own immigration was a huge mistake.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-58918681414620408062010-03-19T01:50:23.026-04:002010-03-19T01:50:23.026-04:00"For your information you don't know that..."For your information you don't know that the OFFICIAL language and the one speak by the MAJORITY is french"<br /><br />It's this narrow minded regionalism that is part of your imaginary nation syndrome. Quebec is only a part of a greater whole. The majority of the whole is English. By your reasoning a state of English unilingualism should be enforced across the country.<br /><br /><br /><br />"You must be for the independence of all the other place in the world except here ! "<br /><br />I'm for the independence of all indigenous peoples. And you're right, Quebecers can't be classified as an indigenous people by any stretch of the imagination.<br /><br />"stay in your ghetto if it what you want"<br /><br />It seems that in Quebec we all stay in our ghettos. I don't think there are any sizeable ethnic communities outside of Montreal, even somewhere as close as St. Jerome. <br /><br />" By chance, your low house value is maybe the only one you can purchase "<br /><br />I suggest you browse MLS and compare home prices between Montreal and other large metropolitan centres. And what does it matter if my house is a trailer here? I still couldn't replace it with the equivalent for the same amount of money in Calgary, Toronto, Vancouver, etc.<br /><br />" I'm a Québecois (and Canadien) born in an other country"<br /><br />If you are born in another country you will never be a Quebecois to the pure laine, and neither will your kids. They might hand you a temporary bone if you are one of the selected Francophone immigrants that were brought here only to bolster a yes vote without any further regard to immigration suitability.<br /><br />"Even Harper recognize the Québécois like a distinct nation !"<br /><br />Then I guess it must make it so. I'm sure political expediency had nothing to do with it at all. He also refers to the First Nations in the same manner and thanks to 101, Quebec is slowly on its way in becoming the largest reserve in the country.<br /><br />"you're de facto Québécois"<br /><br />I agree. Now lets try this same line of argument at the St. Jean Baptiste celebrations and find out just how good our public health care system is, if we make it that far.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-9872255291639392412010-03-18T19:48:14.561-04:002010-03-18T19:48:14.561-04:00It's not a question of language in the neighbo...It's not a question of language in the neighbourhood, it's a question of A COMMON LANGUAGE (the one of the majority, you know like when francophones work in the ROC ? For your information you don't know that the OFFICIAL language and the one speak by the MAJORITY is french. Rhodesian, stay in your ghetto if it what you want ! You must be for the independence of all the other place in the world except here ! I think Canada must became a part of USA and why not Mexico and Latin America (the common language will became spanish, great no ?) ? Why it's good for others but not here ? You must leave your neighbourhood a little bit, you'll see that everywhere in the world people claim their independence ! Even Harper recognize the Québécois like a distinct nation ! He's not really what we can say an independantist ! By chance, your low house value is maybe the only one you can purchase ! I'm a Québecois (and Canadien) born in an other country, you have right to choose what you want but sorry if you live in Québec, you're de facto Québécois !:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-63969452215804839252010-03-18T19:30:22.179-04:002010-03-18T19:30:22.179-04:00''If I knew where Rene Levesque and Camill...''If I knew where Rene Levesque and Camille Laurin were buried I would go piss on their graves!'' I see, you're still at your anal stage !:) I've always find that PET was a fake hero and a Québec basher but i never had your kind of comments ! I just make me a pleasure to deconstruct his symbol that is totally crap !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-68842801162939073512010-03-18T17:49:50.460-04:002010-03-18T17:49:50.460-04:00"Dont't lost your time and go to Toronto,..."Dont't lost your time and go to Toronto, there's no ambiguity there"<br /><br />No problem. Compensate me for the low house value here due to the shitty 101 economy so that it'll be affordable for me to relocate and I promise you I'll be waving a solitary finger behind me on my motorcycle as I rip down the 401.<br />Until then, I'm an ethnic Canadian and will continue to live my life as if 101 and the bigots who support it don't exist. You want a unilingual society? In my neighbourhood the language is English.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-33604195982038736762010-03-18T16:28:01.886-04:002010-03-18T16:28:01.886-04:00Most Quebec Anglos will never accept the fascist B...Most Quebec Anglos will never accept the fascist Bill 101. It gives Quebec, and by extension, Canada, a bad reputation internationally.<br />If I knew where Rene Levesque and Camille Laurin were buried I would go piss on their graves!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-74329412366006683692010-03-18T09:15:54.564-04:002010-03-18T09:15:54.564-04:00I'm Québécois, kiss me ! (next time i'll p...I'm Québécois, kiss me ! (next time i'll put my macaroon on the 24 of june) ! It's funny how demonstration of all other proud of nationality is acceptable but not Québécois !! The province where english minority is lived like slaves !Get over it the Bill 101 !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-32559285222670063792010-03-18T09:11:54.144-04:002010-03-18T09:11:54.144-04:00''So what would you say if education becam...''So what would you say if education became a federal power and 101 was reversed so that all new immigrants that came to the province would be required to study in English, and that to work in Quebec you would have to demonstrate a competency in English? " I would say that they miss the country, English Canada is just right next door ? Dont't lost your time and go to Toronto, there's no ambiguity there, it's english and only english !:) I love when you make lesson on Open-mindness and your not able to fit into the reality that francophones are the majority in Québec :) !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-23768700625163620392010-03-18T00:08:51.639-04:002010-03-18T00:08:51.639-04:00"For Cegeps, can i tell you that they are pub..."For Cegeps, can i tell you that they are public institutions, it's abnormal that the biggest Cegep of Québec is Dawson ?"<br /><br />Why is it abnormal? Does anyone force you to attend English schooling? Are you suggesting that the mere availability of such schooling is a threat? Then if so, being a democrat, you should let people choose. But I'm sure you would rather coerce.<br /><br /> "Why they left ? Because it hurt their values or because they cannot continue to laugh of the francophones that represent more than 82 % of the population ?"<br /><br />They left because they were surrounded by a belligerent racist majority that enacted draconian legislation that targeted them as a group, and a segment of which, only a few years before, had planted bombs in their neighbourhoods. <br /><br />"they cannot continue to laugh of the francophones that represent more than 82 % of the population ?"<br /><br />Do I detect a serious complex?! Look around you. Most available jobs in the economic centre of the province are provided by out of province companies and ethnic and anglophone business. What has 101 gotten you? Even if you want to work at a call centre you have to speak English. Too bad the majority of Francophones don't, which means more jobs for us immigrants and anglophones. All 101 has done is to target a minority group for ignorant bigots like you to scapegoat with your out of context Rhodesian remarks. <br /><br />"i open the radio- English song, i turn the channel on tv- English, go to corner store- English newspaper, go to rent video- english version movies and there's plenty examples of that !"<br /><br />Oh, the horror!! How do you manage? Despite the ever pervasive threatening demonic language of les autres, I can still get fined for speaking English(Which doesn't stop me, and if you drift into my establishment it's the only language you'll be served with). I still don't have a right to live in this country with the same rights every other Canadian has. So I don't give a shit if Brittney's playing on the radio, or if you're stuck watching a crappily dubbed Hollywood blockbuster where Clooney sounds like Gaston from Abitibi.<br /><br /> "and not for the immigrants and for francophones ?"<br /><br />And why not give people the choice? Because a large nuber of Francophones would chose to have their children bilingual. Why is this threatening to you? If the minority group I belong to can retain its ethnic identity and language, then so can you. And if you can't, then there was nothing there to protect in the first place.<br /><br />"Are you dumb or you really feeling like someone want tho eradicate the presence of a cultural group "<br /><br />So what would you say if education became a federal power and 101 was reversed so that all new immigrants that came to the province would be required to study in English, and that to work in Quebec you would have to demonstrate a competency in English? <br /><br />" And if i want to learn mandarin ? or esperanto ? "<br /><br />So far, they haven't become official languages in this country. But if they do, by all means, go for it. I will.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com