tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post5887453574577678937..comments2024-02-17T03:22:53.951-05:00Comments on No Dogs or Anglophones: Quebec's English Schools- When Facts Don't MatterEditorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05699783315783642466noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-14021049429458209822011-12-02T09:55:15.870-05:002011-12-02T09:55:15.870-05:00French lessons Lyon-Every year there are many stud...<a href="http://www.esl-schools.org/en/adult-french-school/esl-lyon-france.htm" rel="nofollow">French lessons Lyon</a>-Every year there are many students who come to foreign countries to pursue a language course.German Courses in Germanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01742705112182925187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-34984225125136911222011-10-25T11:17:13.319-04:002011-10-25T11:17:13.319-04:00I'm born in Quebec, I grew up in Quebec, my na...I'm born in Quebec, I grew up in Quebec, my name is of French origin, but because my Grandfather was Irish, they call me an Anglophone... so what's the definition of "Anglophone"? It's someone who THEY decide who's part of their clique, i.e. bigot and exclusive. It has nothing to do with ethnic origin but rather of one's position in this debate: if you hate anyone who isn't purely French and of French descent, then they like you... maybe!<br /><br />Quebec is an embarrassment to Canada in front of the international community. I believe in the separation of Quebec, but in the sense that Ottawa should kick Quebec out of the Constitution. It would end up being the same result: they would detached from Canada, but I believe that because it wouldn't be done on Quebec's terms, they would fight tooth and nail to NOT be kicked out of Canada!<br /><br />It's a cancer, it's been going on for too long, and it's gotta stop!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-64980590708671765452011-06-19T23:22:26.140-04:002011-06-19T23:22:26.140-04:00Reading all the above comments lead to nothing - a...Reading all the above comments lead to nothing - as a matter of fact it is so sad to see a childish comments "who is better than who" - In brief, and regrettably I must point finger at the federal government that did nothing while the situation worsen by the day. Where is the protection to its citizens? -- One legislation could solve the whole problem of language issues -- I dare to say that only for a plotical gain the Canadian Federal government is doing nothing!!!! --- Similar situation happend in the USA during president Reagan where the Spanish wanted their language be officially recognized -- what happened was really amazing -- in less than a few weeks - the president himself announced that any one comes to the USA must speak English as it is the only language of the country and morever, any imigrant that wants to settle in the US must provide and pay for his translator and never the counry it self --- problem has been sloved since then. So, Can Canada do the same? -- Can Canada put its foot down and let it be known that Quebec had lost the war against the British and conqured and must live under the victorious rulers? - After all there is the Canadian currency Dollar that carries the Queen picture which represent the official status of such a nation. Enough is EnoughAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-87884375184197308462011-05-02T19:11:51.649-04:002011-05-02T19:11:51.649-04:00Sometimes there are circumstances in life that mak...Sometimes there are circumstances in life that make exceptions. My parents are both francophone people from the province of Quebec. Because of this in accordance to Bill 101, I had to go to a french school coincidentally the first year I had to start school, the very year I moved into the province with my family. I didn't live in french communities before that time. For thirteen years I went to schools where I didn't belong.<br /><br />I love Montreal for its diversity, I had never felt so welcome in a school until I started going to Dawson College. That's right. After applying to the french Cegep board twice, and being rejected on both terms, despite the fact there were plenty of seats available after my applications, the french Montreal Cegep board had apparently denied me because there was a likelihood I would fail when not even half of my grades in french got in. I ended up with an average of 74% that year in french to my surprise and hard efforts bundled up with 2 extra credits under my belt. Dawson College accepted me When the French board didn't.<br /><br />I am still living in Montreal, now with my Polish husband. I don't want our future kids to go through what I did. I will want them to go to schools that want them. If I have to move away to a town outside the province, away from our friends and community. Then so be it.<br /><br />If francophones are so proud of their language, then their pride is what will keep french alive in the culture that is Quebec, not uncle Bill.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-40714227554855993752011-04-13T12:26:44.892-04:002011-04-13T12:26:44.892-04:00@ Anonymous at 9:54 AM:
"Quebec showed a big...@ Anonymous at 9:54 AM:<br /><br />"Quebec showed a biggest open minded by letting being educated in English possible.<br />Most of your provinces has forbidden all french education during it's history."<br /><br />You are referring to the distant past. There are currently French schools across the country. Canada has evolved while Quebec has remained the most closed-minded backwater in North America.<br /><br />Quebec has also closed down English hospitals. At least two were shutdown in Montreal: the Reddy Memorial Hospital and the Queen Elizabeth Hospital.<br /><br />"Read back your history racist canadian."<br /><br />The most racist people in the country these days are the Quebecois.<br /><br />By the way, your written English is horrible. I suggest you write in French from now on so you can be better understood.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-53850962398175553242011-04-13T09:54:19.404-04:002011-04-13T09:54:19.404-04:00What is the preblem?
We did with english school w...What is the preblem?<br /><br />We did with english school what all the provinces did with french school: close it. Further more, once again, Quebec showed a biggest open minded by letting being educated in English possible. <br /><br />Read back your history racist canadian. Most of your provinces has forbidden all french education during it's history. When they killed the language, they let it back. Why Quebec can't act like real canadian?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-88349314195919705222011-04-12T15:27:38.858-04:002011-04-12T15:27:38.858-04:00@ Press 9:
"...to the point that many of the...@ Press 9:<br /><br />"...to the point that many of them hid their heritage by anglicizing their surnames."<br /><br />"Comme Woody Allen (Königsberg) et Bob Dylan (Zimmerman) ou encore Fred Aster (sic) (Austerlitz)...Entre autres." <br /><br />The names you mention are those of entertainers, who commonly change their names. I was referring to average Joes (pardon the pun) who changed their surnames en masse after they moved to the U.S. so they wouldn't be recognized as Francophones.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-41139086416734149562011-04-10T19:28:01.731-04:002011-04-10T19:28:01.731-04:00@ Mississauga guy,
In Elementary I went to Outrem...@ Mississauga guy,<br /><br />In Elementary I went to Outremont High School with my grade 5 class to go watch some play at their auditorium. I remember seeing a plaque dedicated to the former students that died fighting in World war 2, don't remember if there was any for world war 1. Then their was Northmount High Schools logo in their school gym, which was painted over by the new French school that took their place, Ecole Secondaire Van Horne which was changed to a more Quebecois name Lavoie in the late 90s<br /><br />So much history just flushed down the big toilet of the charter of charters.<br /><br />I just googled Irving bregman memorial, nothing suggesting who the closed school was named after. Couldn't find anything. Even though my alma mater sinclair laird elementary is still open (for now) couldn't find anything on who Sinclair Laird was at their website. Except that it opened in 1956 and some teachers and staff are still working there that were there 22 plus years ago.<br /><br />I don't know if its just my opinion but all the English School boards in Quebec should have a listing of all the closed schools with their history and what happened.<br /><br />I know that once the English Montreal School Board just stops referring to the closed schools and eliminates most traces of it from their website.<br /><br />Again all that history lost.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-48658317501893179262011-04-10T18:13:58.939-04:002011-04-10T18:13:58.939-04:00"...to the point that many of them hid their ..."...to the point that many of them hid their heritage by anglicizing their surnames."<br /><br />Comme Woody Allen (Königsberg) et Bob Dylan (Zimmerman) ou encore Fred Aster (Austerlitz)...Entre autres.Press 9noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-91694406777948772502011-04-10T18:00:49.181-04:002011-04-10T18:00:49.181-04:00"Try raising the electricity rates too high a..."Try raising the electricity rates too high and the Americans will invade Quebec."<br /><br />Au prix qu'ils nous coûte,on va avoir l'occasion d'essayer nos fameux f-35.Press 9noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-15975204198812834972011-04-10T17:36:31.446-04:002011-04-10T17:36:31.446-04:00WTF is this fascination with Americans about? Of c...WTF is this fascination with Americans about? Of course they look down on Canadians (all Canadians be them English or French). They look down on everyone in the world. If your not American you are second class, and if your not white, Christian and republican you are also considered second class. This is a similarity they share with some (not all) French Canadians, a false sense of entitlement and desire for racial and social purity.<br /><br />I believe all people are equal, but I know I'm in the minority on this site.BlueWhiteRednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-76052801575971262302011-04-10T16:59:30.559-04:002011-04-10T16:59:30.559-04:00"De plus,ils doivent demeurer gentils car nou..."De plus,ils doivent demeurer gentils car nous allons augmenter leurs tarifs hydro-électrique."<br /><br />Try raising the electricity rates too high and the Americans will invade Quebec. Then your beloved language and so-called culture will surely disappear, as it did with nearly all of the other Francophones who moved to the United States over the past several centuries.<br /><br />"Mais bien que les Américains aient une certaine sympathie pour vous, ils n'ont pas de véritable respect." <br /><br />Americans have more respect for Anglo-Canadians than they do for the Quebecois. They just refer to you as a bunch of "frogs." The Francophones who migrated from Canada to work in the United States in the past were held in very low esteem - to the point that many of them hid their heritage by anglicizing their surnames.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-86713282086426803672011-04-10T16:09:55.397-04:002011-04-10T16:09:55.397-04:00@Jean-Philippe
Enfin quelqu'un qui pense comm...@Jean-Philippe<br /><br />Enfin quelqu'un qui pense comme moi.J'ai vraiment ri en lisant ton texte...Un chien qui zing après leur jambe!Hahahahaha!Press 9noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-8506318499803629562011-04-10T15:41:14.200-04:002011-04-10T15:41:14.200-04:00Anon @ April 8, 2011 11:12 AM:
Your last paragrap...Anon @ April 8, 2011 11:12 AM:<br /><br />Your last paragraph indicates you've been paying attention to what I've been stating! If only it continues to catch on!Mississauga Guy tonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-63781110418091353752011-04-10T15:33:20.207-04:002011-04-10T15:33:20.207-04:00To Anon @ April 8, 2011 6:53 AM: There WAS an att...To Anon @ April 8, 2011 6:53 AM: There WAS an attempt to amalgamate regional school boards containing French and English schools about a year or two after the Great Charter of Charters was put into law. The Führer Laurin, author of the Great Charter of Charters, became Minister of Education (naturally), and proposed regional school boards all those years ago! HEIL! <br /><br />I fought it like crazy because it was obvious preference would be given to French schools, much as it has been since the implementation of the Great Charter of Charters. Lo and behold, like death and taxes, the English school enrolment has been endlessly shrinking and Quebec funding to English schools has been endlessly shrinking.<br /><br />Being from Chomedey, I saw the demise of my alma mater, Hillcrest Elementary School. It became a community centre and now a Greek parochial school. Other elementary schools to disappear in my neighbourhood are Martinvale, and Churchill/Irving Bregman Memorial, and T.H Bowes. Crestview and Souvenir are the only ones that remain, and Pierre Laporte, a school for French immersion and special ed needs is I don't know where. Between Chomedey Polyvalent and Western Laval H.S's, only one remains, the older building, CPHS, now known as Laval Liberty H.S. WLHS is now a private language school after having become the French École secondaire Marie Curie (Boom!) for years.<br /><br />Everywhere that there were English schools are now an English school graveyard, or an old piece of history to be forgotten. The lore of our former English schools will go to our graves with us! The way I see it, eventually, and much to the pleasure of the seppies, there will be NO more English instructional schools, at least public ones.<br /><br />Another reason a federal party is needed for the English speaking population of the Real Canada, including the West Island, West Central Montreal, and other pockets of the area surrounding Montreal. The Anglophone Quebecer is, as Robert Libman stated in his recent article, orphaned.Mississauga Guynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-5808375299620442142011-04-10T15:28:20.070-04:002011-04-10T15:28:20.070-04:00"Americans have a greater affinity for Anglo-..."Americans have a greater affinity for Anglo-Canadians because they share a common language and have similar views regarding basic personal freedoms."<br /><br />Il y a quelques années un groupe d'Américains en état d'ébriété modéré nous ont expliqué (un groupe de Québécois en état d'ébriété modéré) ce qu'ils pensent vraiment des Anglo-canadiens. <br /><br />Comme tu l'affirmes, ils ont dit qu'ils ont des affinités avec vous, car vous partagez la même langue et la même culture (dans le sens où vous vous abreuvez presque exclusivement à leur culture). Mais bien que les Américains aient une certaine sympathie pour vous, ils n'ont pas de véritable respect. Puisqu'ils vous voient comme une pâle copie de leur peuple, comme le petit chien qui "zing" après leur jambe. En fait, le type de respect qu'ils ont pour vous n'a rien à voir avec celui qu'on peut éprouver à l'égard d'une grande nation puissante et originale, il a plutôt trait à celui que les gens peuvent avoir pour une personne handicapée.Jean-Philippenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-33581627220844613902011-04-10T15:25:56.042-04:002011-04-10T15:25:56.042-04:00"...on ira en reparler."(sic)
On en rep..."...on ira en reparler."(sic)<br /><br />On en reparlera.Indigènenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-88441900548650945132011-04-10T15:20:15.722-04:002011-04-10T15:20:15.722-04:00"...They think Quebecois visitors to the U.S...."...They think Quebecois visitors to the U.S. are loud, demanding, arrogant and obnoxious, and they have an intense dislike of their coarse language."<br /><br />Oui mais nous sommes payants pour eux.En fait,nous sommes les touristes les plus payants.De plus,ils doivent demeurer gentils car nous allons augmenter leurs tarifs hydro-électrique.Je donne même du pourboire a ceux qui essayent de nous parler en Français.Ils savent qu'avec notre puissance énergétique,nous alimentons presque toute la côte Est et le projets des newfies n'est pas pour demain.HaHa!AngloBusternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-684236135059005362011-04-10T11:37:25.179-04:002011-04-10T11:37:25.179-04:00"Thank you so much dude.Soon Québec will need..."Thank you so much dude.Soon Québec will need much and much more French teachers (20 brand new French schools),so if you need a job..."<br /><br />You should attend one of those new French elementary schools because your syntax and grammar are terrible. I'm sure you have the time because you are probably just another Quebecois welfare bum.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-54000740136895854822011-04-10T11:23:04.742-04:002011-04-10T11:23:04.742-04:00@ AngloBuster, April 8 at 2:13 pm:
"Comme il...@ AngloBuster, April 8 at 2:13 pm:<br /><br />"Comme il est aussi facile de reconnaître un canadian dans un endroit public aux É.U.<br />Un ami Américain m'a dit que les canadians ont un drôle de look,une drôle de tête et un accent de hillbillies."<br /><br />It is highly unlikely that you have any American friends because you have made a lot of disparaging remarks about them and their country. You probably have never even spoken to an American.<br /><br />I know Americans who live in states that border Quebec. They think Quebecois visitors to the U.S. are loud, demanding, arrogant and obnoxious, and they have an intense dislike of their coarse language. <br /><br />Americans have a greater affinity for Anglo-Canadians because they share a common language and have similar views regarding basic personal freedoms.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-30906178371869183462011-04-10T10:28:38.034-04:002011-04-10T10:28:38.034-04:00WESTALLOPHONE++
Thank you so much dude.Soon Québe...WESTALLOPHONE++<br /><br />Thank you so much dude.Soon Québec will need much and much more French teachers (20 brand new French schools),so if you need a job...<br /><br />Thanks again for your precious help!WAISTALLOPHONE++noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-24901910407330678212011-04-10T09:00:56.817-04:002011-04-10T09:00:56.817-04:00À anonyme:''You should be grateful the Bri...À anonyme:''You should be grateful the British allowed you to retain any culture that you do have.'' Faut vraiment être déconnecté pour penser que la ''rétention''culturelle est le fruit d'une grâce, c'est plutôt la volonté intrinsèque des Québécois (autrefois Canadiens, Canadiens-français...). Sortez de votre monde politiquement correct, les britanniques n'ont laissés aucune chance, faut être un anglo pour penser ça !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-19584758178140992732011-04-10T08:40:20.488-04:002011-04-10T08:40:20.488-04:00"ce qui nous réunis est plus qu'une langu..."ce qui nous réunis est plus qu'une langue,c'est une culture".<br />First of all, it's "réuniT" (third singular person). So, study the real grammar before writing gibberish (probably it reflects the way you think or you don't think...).<br />Second, there is not a "langue", but an horrific, incomprehensible dialect called joual, spoken by uneducated individuals.<br />Third, there is not a "culture", but a huge, black hole made of bad attitudes, lack of general knowledge and a high drop-out rate.<br />Fourth, you never put a comma between subject and verb (Ce que nous Québécois faisons...no comma, dead brain!) <br />Five, ce que vous Québécois faites est de détruire la langue française...Étudiez-la et puis on ira en reparler.<br /><br />WESTALLOPHONE++Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-23947361540969797672011-04-10T00:22:44.832-04:002011-04-10T00:22:44.832-04:00"We have also opened up new offices in China,..."We have also opened up new offices in China, Hong Kong, Japan, and Malaysia. We have our people there, but we hire a lot of locals as well."<br /><br />Les affaires vont plutôt bien,de quoi vous plaignez-vous donc?Badski Doonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-47674288108650136612011-04-09T10:57:47.557-04:002011-04-09T10:57:47.557-04:00"S'il vous plait,évitez de conduire quand..."S'il vous plait,évitez de conduire quand vous consommez ce type d'hallucinogène."<br /><br />Someone should have said that to Rene LesvesqueAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com