tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post159650577222835250..comments2024-02-17T03:22:53.951-05:00Comments on No Dogs or Anglophones: Civil Disobedience and Bill 101Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05699783315783642466noreply@blogger.comBlogger153125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-65027802505635804992012-07-24T07:37:36.689-04:002012-07-24T07:37:36.689-04:00Let us get one thing straight, that for all their ...Let us get one thing straight, that for all their false claims the Kebecois are still a Metis people, and that is why France left them behind in 1760. Of they keep pushing the false claim to being French, because they are very ashamed of being the result of miscegenation carried out on orders of the Sun King (Louis XIV) and Cardinal Richelieu, Prime Minister of France to quickly raise the population of New France an compete with Great Britain's New England colonies in the 18th century. the Kebecois are no different to the Cajuns of Louisiana and New Brunswick, they are whether they like it or not a people of Mixed Race. They had better learn to accept the reality of their background and live with it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-33951856447804618902012-02-16T15:29:48.399-05:002012-02-16T15:29:48.399-05:00Tony, was that your article in the Huffington Post...Tony, was that your article in the Huffington Post? If so, bravo! Great piece.LordDorchesternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-49966158442997565962012-02-15T17:37:36.593-05:002012-02-15T17:37:36.593-05:00"Only bombs, in fact, were the ideal communic..."Only bombs, in fact, were the ideal communication process to convince the English that we were after something important.” PQ Minister Gerald Godin.<br /><br />http://dictionary.sensagent.com/g%C3%A9rald+godin/en-en/Tony Kondakshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18228233599653784361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-17897291610128457492012-02-15T15:00:01.326-05:002012-02-15T15:00:01.326-05:00OQLF, it's written: les québécois et les Canad...OQLF, it's written: les québécois et les CanadiensAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-80733931893160906612012-02-15T14:46:10.144-05:002012-02-15T14:46:10.144-05:00Good point Adski, when are you facebooking me fina...Good point Adski, when are you facebooking me finally god dammit :)Hugo Shebbearehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02542714678024399257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-13705467358267281832012-02-15T14:38:09.631-05:002012-02-15T14:38:09.631-05:00+1+1Roger Rabbitnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-15482587133411501432012-02-15T13:57:30.477-05:002012-02-15T13:57:30.477-05:00Les gens dans ce quartier ont fait un accomodement...Les gens dans ce quartier ont fait un accomodement raisonable :P<br /><br />(Just joking adski)Roger Rabbitnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-19476968455401142962012-02-15T13:35:17.107-05:002012-02-15T13:35:17.107-05:00CIVIL WAR! CIVIL WAR! CIVIL WAR!CIVIL WAR! CIVIL WAR! CIVIL WAR!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-25482676005220830242012-02-15T12:33:26.536-05:002012-02-15T12:33:26.536-05:00YellowSeppie, Your so-called "nation" ha...YellowSeppie, Your so-called "nation" has been repeatedly defeated by the Quebeckers who voted to remain part of Canada, and as such Quebec is the only Province that has implicitly ratified the Constitution (with its linguistic minorities rights provisions). So, your "nation" is a lot smaller than the province of Quebec. Time to take Levis, Saguenay and QC and the other inbreeding hotspots where your ilk hides and make your own, smaller, country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-71735230130422846722012-02-15T12:30:59.111-05:002012-02-15T12:30:59.111-05:00The comparison between South African Apartheid law...The comparison between South African Apartheid laws and Bill 101's language of education laws can and must be made to the extent that the PROCEDURE of discrimination used is similar; that the DEGREE OF ABUSE is so widely different is so obvious that it shouldn't have to be mentioned. And besides, it is FRANCOPHONES AND ALLOPHONES who suffer mostly from the discrimination, not anglophones.<br /><br />But the mere fact that the procedure is the same should be an enormous source of shame to Quebec and most definitely should be discussed,replete with the South African comparison. To NOT do so is the insult to those who fought against it so valiently in ANY of its manifestations.Tony Kondakshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18228233599653784361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-13075265657345585072012-02-15T12:26:22.739-05:002012-02-15T12:26:22.739-05:00Makes me proud, proud, proud that every one of you...Makes me proud, proud, proud that every one of your quotes came from an American. I spend every day trying to figure out how you guys work. My friends think I'm rude for not speaking French to a waiter when ordering a meal that I'm paying for with my own money and my spouse thinks I'm borderline insane because I fully intend on moving to Alberta temporarily to import a car from the U.S. and not pay Quebec's truly ridiculous sales tax. My statement: "I am not about to hand over my money to a government that will either waste it or use it to oppress me. I don't care if it costs me more money to avoid the tax than to pay it." <br /><br />I spend every day here breaking all kinds of rules because they simply do not compute for me. I have tried to understand why I should do many of the things that good, rule-following Anglo-Quebecers do on a daily basis but every time I do, these funny old men with powdery white wigs pop up in my head and tell me to be bad. Nice to know someone gets it a little bit at least. :-)<br /><br />Here's one from my favorite founding "father":<br /><br />"[We] will not hold ourselves bound by any laws in which we have no voice, or representation."<br />-- Abigail Adams.David Corlewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-30664879936016390612012-02-15T10:53:10.786-05:002012-02-15T10:53:10.786-05:00Hahahahahaha!Bonne réplique!Hahahahahaha!Bonne réplique!Seppienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-62184022698721043442012-02-15T10:49:00.836-05:002012-02-15T10:49:00.836-05:00I knew you would one day become a federalist =DI knew you would one day become a federalist =DRoger Rabbitnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-40847902064481202732012-02-15T10:41:42.866-05:002012-02-15T10:41:42.866-05:00Justin et moi sommes depuis hier des amis Facebook...Justin et moi sommes depuis hier des amis Facebook :pSeppienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-9327061226243629192012-02-15T09:54:01.738-05:002012-02-15T09:54:01.738-05:00If QC separates, I hope the Greater Montreal area ...If QC separates, I hope the Greater Montreal area will not go along with ROQ and also take the opposite directionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-17429474702328221192012-02-15T09:05:06.579-05:002012-02-15T09:05:06.579-05:00Seppies are like the Quebec Nordiques: french lose...Seppies are like the Quebec Nordiques: french losers gone bust and now extinct...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-76115886455130018612012-02-15T09:03:16.964-05:002012-02-15T09:03:16.964-05:00You don't get to choose, the good folk of Mont...You don't get to choose, the good folk of Mont-Royal do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-81032569183299562792012-02-15T08:11:02.650-05:002012-02-15T08:11:02.650-05:00I read Zinn's Une Histoire Populaire des États...I read Zinn's Une Histoire Populaire des États-Unis, interesting, and Klein's No Logo, fascinating.<br /><br />Nice talking with you. I guess that we will have the occasion to pursue this discussion in following posts.Michel Patricenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-26461834443018506942012-02-15T03:17:10.464-05:002012-02-15T03:17:10.464-05:00AnonymousFeb 14, 2012 04:58 PM
It is racists from...AnonymousFeb 14, 2012 04:58 PM<br /><br />It is racists from the RoC and from QC that will break the country up!!<br /><br />I posted many times that the QC French media is almost all separatist and the Separatist school system is designed to certify children remain unilingual French all their lives. You are helping them win, perhaps because you are also a racist? <br /><br />VIVE LA PROVINCE CANADIENNE DE MONTREAL!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-56397614950689795642012-02-14T22:22:04.462-05:002012-02-14T22:22:04.462-05:00"A person is travelling from an American city..."A person is travelling from an American city to Toronto and can't speak English?"<br /><br />Air canada a une ligne Montréal-Paris.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-52458114882830986652012-02-14T20:46:07.691-05:002012-02-14T20:46:07.691-05:00Manufacturing Consent was written by both Herman a...Manufacturing Consent was written by both Herman and Chomsky. It's a must read.<br /><br />I'm actually a comp sci graduate working in IT, but I read a lot about history, politics, media, world events. I tend to go for authors who criticize the established order in a total, and not partisan, manner (e.g. Zinn, Chris Hedges, Parenti, Pilger, Fisk, Seymore Hersh, Tariq Ali, Naomi Klein, John Gray, Alexander Cockburn, pre-9/11 C.Hitchens, Gore Vidal, etc...). The mainstream writers who are entangled with power centers (e.g. Ignatieff, Lisee, even Bob Woodward) are usually dull and dishonest, and not really worth reading.adskinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-3549740629311836192012-02-14T19:58:46.899-05:002012-02-14T19:58:46.899-05:00The entire french media ( le Devoir pour instance)...The entire french media ( le Devoir pour instance) and separatist movement are for the most part fraudulent in their presentations. <br /><br />Quebec is broke. JF Lisee trys to prove otherwise but his arguments are weak, at best.<br /><br />Quebec with Loi 101 is just trying to protect the language and culture of Quebec....of course.<br /><br />Quebec really receives no prequatione from the ROC as they pay taxes too. Just about 8-10 to billion less than the rest of us...Numbers don't lie.<br /><br />Hard to believe that the people of Quebec listen to the dribble from policitians and separatists..Of course they only hear what they want to hear. No one is a villian in their own movie..<br /><br />The issues will be solved when Quebec drags their sorry ass out of the confederation. Then, the realities will set in ....but by then it will be too late. For me, I hope Marois wins the next election and is forced by the idiots to call a referendum...<br /><br />Canada would be a much stronger country without the negative influence of Quebec.<br /><br />Just look at the record and see if you don't agree. <br /><br />What is the current debt now?<br /><br />Bonne chance avec votre nouvelle pay. LOL<br /><br />C'est incroyable. Trudeau is just another policitian in the vein of his father, who did more to set the stage for the downfall of the ROC. Still remember him giving the finger to Western Farmers. Still remember him and his franco ami Marc Lalonde and the NEP which nearly ruined Alberta for several years. <br /><br />Another in the ROC who is tired of paying taxes to be directed to "le natione etat".<br /><br /><br /><br />Take your precious Quebec and stick it up your ass. We are tired of Official Bilingulism, continued whining and pandering to the spoiled child, that you are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-43150407468417422172012-02-14T19:23:01.821-05:002012-02-14T19:23:01.821-05:00I agree with you on the concept of normalization o...I agree with you on the concept of normalization of the unthinkable. But I disagree on what is defined as unthinkable. Herman takes for examples manufacturing of poison gases, napalm, or instruments of torture. I wonder how he would rate bill 101 on the scale of unthinkableness. Even the Editor of No Dogs carefuly mentions that he is not comparing Bill 101 to the Nurenberg laws, the various Apartheid laws of South Africa or race laws that discriminated against Blacks in the USA.<br /><br />Of course, unthinkability is highly subjective and I am guessing that we will agree on this point, but comparing bill 101 with manufacturing instruments of torture is what? exaggerated perhaps? (Don't have a fit, I am just telling you my side of the story...)<br /><br />I think that you understand my point about nations thinking about their interests first.<br /><br />I think that french and english quebeckers have much in common, I think that the dynamics of our society is as fascinating as it is sometimes despairing and it is why I find forums such as this one interesting (as long as one gets over the mindless racist animosity).<br /><br />I am still curious : you quoted Chomsky and Herman, are you studying political sciences or something like that? And how old are you? I am not saying this to make of you or to put you in a box. I am just curious.<br /><br />Michel Patrice<br /><br />P.S. I read Chomsky's De la Guerre comme Politique Étrangère des États-Unis long ago. And quoting Chomsky you remind that I wanted to read Manufacturing of Conscent.<br /><br />P.S. I don't know what "people with a chip on their shoulders" means.Michel Patricenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-69494599284480947012012-02-14T18:54:39.122-05:002012-02-14T18:54:39.122-05:00Yes, this has created a "francophone Quebec I...Yes, this has created a "francophone Quebec Inc." so to speak.<br /><br />But at what price?<br /><br />I contend it is NOT an economically working model. To wit:<br /><br />- $8 billion a year in equalization payments to Quebec;<br /><br />- net transfer payments to Quebec;<br /><br />- numerous sweetheart deals for Quebec - put in place by both government and the private sector (pushed by the government - to placate Quebec.<br /><br />Left on its own without these artificial financial "subsidies" the cost of francization would have brought Quebec into an even worse economic mess than it is.<br /><br />I advocate independence for Quebec because I truly believe that, once independent, Quebec will be forced to grant full minority rights and individual rights to its anglophone minority. Left on its own, Quebec will soon realize that in order to get its fair share of entrepreneurs, investors, and professionals, it will have to attract them from the pool of 350 million highly affluent, unilingual anglophones from that famous "Sea of English" that surrounds Quebec...and said unilingual anglos ain't gonna be attracted to come to Quebec because of our winters. They will only come if they can live in, work in, invest in, interact with the government in, educate their children in UNLINGUAL ENGLISH.<br /><br />The future of an independent Quebec will be an English one, one where not only anglos will have the freedom to live in their language but francophones as well. The best way to protect and preserve the French language is when that population learns English the way that the non-English peoples of the countries of Europe learn a second languages. Independence will provide Quebecers will the boundaries of a REAL nation that they can claim as their own, not a pretend one that Harper insultingly gave to Quebec via that silly resolution he passed a few years ago in Parliament.Tony Kondakshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18228233599653784361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-22583032822294253272012-02-14T18:49:38.499-05:002012-02-14T18:49:38.499-05:00Don't get too excited. He was just making a po...Don't get too excited. He was just making a point about the Harper Conservatives and took it a little too far. He is a federalist.<br /><br />And just to let you know, most french speaking federalists started out as separatists but then they lived life a bit. They got out into the world and saw that it wasn't as it is presented in the francophone media and became federalist.Roger Rabbitnoreply@blogger.com