tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post1243303828042760430..comments2024-02-17T03:22:53.951-05:00Comments on No Dogs or Anglophones: Quebec's New AyatollahsEditorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05699783315783642466noreply@blogger.comBlogger111125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-32279370433745106602013-08-08T14:12:18.562-04:002013-08-08T14:12:18.562-04:00The "void in the birth rate" excuse is n...The "void in the birth rate" excuse is nonsense, in my view. If there are fewer people, then there are fewer jobs to be filled, less industry and production (only in proportion to the real needs), and it's better for the environment. After all, that's what was preached to us in the 1960s when I was a senior in high school. Reduce your birth rate to ease up on the environment. Now that Quebecers and the West in general seem to have done so, the opposite sermon is preached, we must immigrate to replace you! <br /><br />In fact, the mass immigration has nothing to do with compensating for birth rate, its goal is to geopolitically re-engineer Canada into a miniature demographic map of the globe, thus eliminating the Founding Peoples and Confederation. Same thing is happening south of our border, and at the same time, Canada's traitors who are detaining office in our parliament are busily ANNEXING CANADA to the multicultural USA, BOTH of our populations being GEO-ENGINEERED specifically for this.<br /><br />Kathleen Moore<br />HABEAS CORPUS CANADA<br />The Official Legal Challenge<br />To North American Union<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyforcanada<br /><br />HABEAS CORPUS CANADAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12342875770580345078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-21424213069845901662013-07-09T04:46:50.306-04:002013-07-09T04:46:50.306-04:00Adski so obviously speaks the voice of reason whil...Adski so obviously speaks the voice of reason while Michel Patrice is desperately trying to find support for Quebec independence by referring to Germany's totally different situation, it's embarrassing...R.Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16447818623561947563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-3870610087385605532013-07-07T19:26:07.986-04:002013-07-07T19:26:07.986-04:00I just heard that there was an oil train derailmen...I just heard that there was an oil train derailment in Quebec. Are any of the regular posters to this blog who actually live in Quebec alright?Edward J. Cunninghamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11925008506185290162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-33255575910277011392013-07-06T14:46:12.422-04:002013-07-06T14:46:12.422-04:00Ce drapeau n'est qu'un bout de tissu,ni pl...Ce drapeau n'est qu'un bout de tissu,ni plus ni moins.Regardez plutôt la réalité en face,Montréal est reconnue à traves le monde comme une ville francophone,comme le reste du Québec dailleurs.La "présence anglophone" lui fait perdre toute son originalité ainsi que son prestige.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-2418178478519119172013-07-05T17:38:05.422-04:002013-07-05T17:38:05.422-04:00Les anglos ne sont que des invités:
well the invi...Les anglos ne sont que des invités:<br /><br />well the invitees are the one who happen to have build the city<br /><br />"Montréal est une ville du Québec dont elle est la métropole, le centre de la culture et des affaires. C'est la plus importante ville francophone d'Amérique"<br /><br />"Montréal est couramment considérée comme la deuxième ville francophone dans le monde après Paris"<br /><br />Wikipédia<br /><br />Wikipedia is not the most reliable source of information, so if I were you, mentally unfit moron, I wouldn't get too excited...btw, keep in mind that the city is only french on PAPER, no more, no less!<br /><br />on a side note, look at the flag of the metropolis, you filthy flea-bagged primate anus and you will get the idea what I am talking about!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-52814397395479117462013-07-05T13:06:18.542-04:002013-07-05T13:06:18.542-04:00Quebec also administers its own pension plan (QPP)...Quebec also administers its own pension plan (QPP).Durhamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-10460973519018938952013-07-05T10:37:48.893-04:002013-07-05T10:37:48.893-04:00"So anglos and allos might just start to vote..."So anglos and allos might just start to vote according to what they think of left or right policies, of social policies"<br /><br />The fact that our judgement on social and economic policies can sometimes be skewed by our antipathy and mistrust for the PQ is no reason to vote for the pet project of the PQ. A better solution is for the PQ to stop antagonizing us so we can get rid of our antipathy and mistrust.adskinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-22798898151172317112013-07-05T10:15:33.842-04:002013-07-05T10:15:33.842-04:00First of all, what "independence"? One w...First of all, what "independence"? One where the Bank of Canada controls your currency, because you would not dare create your own? One with the "partnership" with Canada? One where you are sovereign AND associated, as per the oxymoron "sovereignty-association"? <br /><br />The idea of independence of QC is a cultural phenomenon and one should ideally be immersed in this culture for a long time to get hooked. But there is also a practical aspect to the system that does not favor the non-Quebecois while showing strong favoritism towards the Quebecois, with Quebec "independence" lying along the trajectory of this trend. <br /><br />Immigrants and allophones lack the total immersion in the culture that produces Quebec separatists, and they lack practical incentives to support any political solution that empowers a selfish and uncompromising linguistic group in this increasingly competitive world. <br /><br />This "argument": "After independence, they will not have to vote against independence no matter what. So anglos and allos might just start to vote according to what they think of left or right policies, of social policies, of what to do with Hydro electricity rate, of what they think of free trade, or whatever other issue"<br /><br />is misleading. It says that we'll get to the practical things after we settle the cultural one. Except that the cultural thing is out of our experiential range, i.e. we can't support something that we don't feel for, and blackmail ("vote for this, then we'll get to electricity rates") is no substitute for sympathy with some cause. Second, we will get to the practical things anyways (electricity rates included), even if time is wasted on the cultural one. Third, what guarantee do we have that settling the cultural issue will not produce a situation where the practical matters are settled in our disfavor? Maybe it is in our interest to have the practical issues made secondary in federated Canada than primary in an "independent" Quebec? It sure looks like it, given the favoritism of successive Quebec governments for one linguistic group.adskinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-71669037129592093352013-07-05T07:55:48.077-04:002013-07-05T07:55:48.077-04:00By your logic, if that was the only reason for ind...By your logic, if that was the only reason for independence, you would be absolutely right.<br />Michel Patricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01355096630819086323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-6320766864011529512013-07-05T07:37:40.094-04:002013-07-05T07:37:40.094-04:00*there are options for language of daily communica...*there are options for language of daily communication, that is.adskinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-11219608766502906972013-07-05T07:34:02.807-04:002013-07-05T07:34:02.807-04:00M.Patrice: "After independence, they will not...M.Patrice: "After independence, they will not have to vote against independence no matter what."<br /><br />This is a strange argument for getting anglos and allos to vote for QC's independence. It's like telling Quebeckers in 2011 to finally vote for Harper so that the prospect of Harper's government would no longer arouse anxiety in Quebec because it would simply become a fact. <br /><br />By this logic, allos and anglos are the only ones holding the key to ending this thing by voting the way the separatists want. As if the key was not in the separatists' hands in their recognition that there is not enough support for this idea to hang on to it and waste people's time.adskinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-54101064077207881922013-07-05T07:30:20.092-04:002013-07-05T07:30:20.092-04:00I asked reddit/r/de (Reddit in Germany) about thei...I asked reddit/r/de (Reddit in Germany) about their opinion.<br /><br />Here is the most relevant answer : http://www.reddit.com/r/de/comments/1ho42k/we_need_help_to_settle_an_argument_about_the/cawc1i5<br /><br />Another commenter noted that East Germany, occupied by the Soviet Union, never was an independent nation. Another noted that West Germany really got back its own full independence only when the Allied Control Council was dismantled in 1990 in the reunification process.<br /><br />And also, my question started a fight between two commenters. Oups. I guess we are the only ones to argue senselessly forever. Michel Patricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01355096630819086323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-4770624546296791662013-07-05T07:28:57.687-04:002013-07-05T07:28:57.687-04:00I asked reddit/r/de (Reddit in Germany) about thei...I asked reddit/r/de (Reddit in Germany) about their opinion.<br /><br />Here is the most relevant answer : http://www.reddit.com/r/de/comments/1ho42k/we_need_help_to_settle_an_argument_about_the/cawc1i5<br /><br />Another commenter noted that East Germany, occupied by the Soviet Union, never was an independent nation. Another noted West Germany really got back its own independence only when the Allied Control Council was dismantled in 1990 in the reunification process.<br /><br />And also, my question started a fight between two commenters. Oups. I guess we are the only ones to argue senselessly forever. Michel Patricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01355096630819086323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-19672044297670665742013-07-05T07:23:53.905-04:002013-07-05T07:23:53.905-04:00"Language/communication is not an option, whi..."Language/communication is not an option, while religion is."<br /><br />The reason why you have language legislation in Quebec is precisely because there are options. The legislation is to discourage people from alternatives.adskinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-34238846875171076932013-07-05T04:15:26.071-04:002013-07-05T04:15:26.071-04:00In fact pan-national states of the 19th century us...In fact pan-national states of the 19th century usually tried to effect the homogeneity that was more theory than fact during the 19th century. It's how many of the minority languages of Europe, namely in France, Germany and Italy, disapeared, mostly through the use of state-enforced public education in the "national" language.Yannicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-7297677229685255772013-07-05T03:58:10.872-04:002013-07-05T03:58:10.872-04:00Of course it is full of BS, but that is what he wa...Of course it is full of BS, but that is what he wants to believe, no matter what anyone else has to say about it. It would be very easy to refute the points he makes, but ultimately it is futile since he is not genuinely seeking a discussion but simply making an affirmation of his own point-of-view. A conversation of the deaf, in other words...Equanimitynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-78671628507320429502013-07-05T02:12:13.720-04:002013-07-05T02:12:13.720-04:00Very interesting discussion… of course, it’s based...Very interesting discussion… of course, it’s based on important factual matters rather than on merely emotional ones, such as French! French! French! French! French!!!!! Hostie!!!!!!True Montrealernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-32694062657639371562013-07-05T01:20:32.654-04:002013-07-05T01:20:32.654-04:00Of course, Nelson’s Column (1809) is the world’s o...Of course, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson's_Column,_Montreal" rel="nofollow">Nelson’s Column</a> (1809) is the world’s oldest monument dedicated to Lord Horatio Nelson, who defeated Napoleon at the Battle of Trafalgar. It is Montreal’s oldest surviving monument, predating <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson's_Column" rel="nofollow">Nelson’s Column</a> in Trafalgar Square, London, by several decades. “Neither the French Revolution nor Napoleon had been popular among the French in Montreal, and contrary to later belief, the public funds raised for the monument were collected from British and French Montrealers alike.”<br /><br />It faces what was originally Neptune Square, with its fountain featuring the god of the sea, and which in 1930 became known as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vauquelin_Square" rel="nofollow">Vauquelin Square</a>, after a French captain involved in the defense of Louisbourg, and presumably meant to be a counterweight to Nelson’s accomplishments.<br />R.Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16447818623561947563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-6494921942595583472013-07-04T23:26:18.194-04:002013-07-04T23:26:18.194-04:00Germany’s reunification effort has cost the former...Germany’s reunification effort has cost the former West Germany an estimated $2 trillion so far to rescue the former East Germany from that disastrous Soviet experiment… that’s $2,000 billion or $2 million million… YIKES! The limited benefit has coloured Germans’ perception of stimulus for other economic basket cases such as Greece. (<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/26/world/europe/german-reunification-pains-inform-stance-on-greece.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0" rel="nofollow">link 1</a>) (<a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/11/07/us-germany-wall-idUSTRE5A613B20091107" rel="nofollow">link 2</a>)<br /><br />While it’s true that West and East Germany had been apart for “only” 45 years, they had also been together for “only” 74 years. That is to say, the initial <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unification_of_Germany" rel="nofollow">German unification</a> occurred in 1871 (which is post-Canadian confederation, and which also included much of ethnically-different and linguistically-different Prussia (modern-day Poland)), <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied-occupied_Germany" rel="nofollow">Allied occupation</a> following the fall of the Third Reich in 1945 and then <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_reunification" rel="nofollow">German re-unification</a> in 1990. <br /><br />Prior to that, the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation had included over 500 independent states. Unification exposed "several glaring religious, linguistic, social, and cultural differences between and among the inhabitants of the new nation." This is hardly uncommon. Ethnically-homogeneous countries are in the minority world-wide.<br />The Cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03505395670925907216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-57343462200830360622013-07-04T23:07:11.278-04:002013-07-04T23:07:11.278-04:00Is the any monument like this in Paris? For extra ...Is the any monument like <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/35746992@N08/3876397072/" rel="nofollow">this</a> in Paris? For extra point, who is that man and what did he do?Troyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09960771543572680283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-25592729086054304772013-07-04T22:46:02.654-04:002013-07-04T22:46:02.654-04:00Laurie from The Globe article..
""He ha...Laurie from The Globe article..<br /><br />""He has written extensively in the past about English, which he says is not a nice language. For example, he points to the capitalized first-person singular in English – “I” – as a sign of individualism.<br />""<br /><br />heheh. I is a sign of individualism? Moron.<br /><br />Publisher, writer (these are BIG DEAL SKILLS in 2013 with the internet) and former bar owner.<br /><br />He's just looking for a platform to preach his message of intolerance.<br /><br />He has a major case of Anglophobia<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Starpol/Anglophobia/temp<br /><br />""Anglophobia as a term refers to the irrational expression of hatred and animosity toward the English. It is distinct from a reasoned criticism of English culture, politics history or identity by the generality of the criticism, or its ingrained and reactionary forms of expression.""<br /><br />What makes Quebec distinct, is politicians and civil servants endorsing and acting out on there anglophopbia through the state.<br /><br />cebeuqnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-58684174954789799922013-07-04T22:19:06.751-04:002013-07-04T22:19:06.751-04:00"If you think that German unification was a c..."If you think that German unification was a collaborative effort between East and West Germany where both sides are equal partners, and not simply an acquisition of East Germany by West Germany, you are insulting your own intelligence."<br /><br />What? You mean that East Germany, after being ruled by the soviet system that was so unefficient that it collapsed and imploded by itself, was not as thriving as West Germany who benefited from the Marshall Plan?<br /><br />Of course. I know that East Germany was in a pitiful state.<br /><br />Here is what I was saying :<br /><br />There were germanic peoples who lived in Europe for centuries and who became what modern Germany was. Modern Germany was an independent nation-state. After the second world war, a part of that nation, East Germany, has been put under the rule of the Soviet Union. That part of Germany lost its independence.<br /><br />The people of East Germany probably did not feel that they belonged in the Soviet Union which might explain why a wall was needed to keep them from going to West Germany.<br /><br />When the Soviet Union collapsed, east germans and west germans wanted to reunite the Germany that was before the war. <br /><br />East and West Germans were not two different nations, they had been apart for 45 years only and the older ones remembered living in the formerly united Germany. East germans did not give up their independence to west germans. They went back to the country they felt they belonged to and that they had never forgotten. They wanted to restore what was before and what felt right : their independent and united country.Michel Patricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01355096630819086323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-66279141718951920212013-07-04T21:52:33.047-04:002013-07-04T21:52:33.047-04:00"...and you keep fantasizing to the idea of M..."...and you keep fantasizing to the idea of Montreal to be like Paris"<br /><br />Les anglos ne sont que des invités:<br /><br />"Montréal est une ville du Québec dont elle est la métropole, le centre de la culture et des affaires. C'est la plus importante ville francophone d'Amérique"<br /><br />"Montréal est couramment considérée comme la deuxième ville francophone dans le monde après Paris"<br /><br />WikipédiaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-27700408447306265672013-07-04T21:18:11.084-04:002013-07-04T21:18:11.084-04:00J'ai toujours trouvé que les "canadians&q...J'ai toujours trouvé que les "canadians" avaient une drôle de tête :)<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/l9dxww5Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7963035472241877292.post-67148546063155677582013-07-04T21:15:06.811-04:002013-07-04T21:15:06.811-04:00Is a shame to compare Quebec to Norway, Swiss and...Is a shame to compare Quebec to Norway, Swiss and Luxembourg. Population size is not relevant. More relevant is the quality of that population. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com