Monday, July 4, 2011

Separatist Demonstration a Royal Flop!

RRQ-not much of a turnout!
If you live outside of the province of Quebec and are unfamiliar with the particularities of our regions and cities, you should understand that the capital of the province, Quebec City, is much like Ottawa, dominated in large part by successful middle class civil servants.

As such, the city and the greater metropolitan region is more entrenched and conservative, representing the last bastion of Conservative party support in the province of Quebec.
The city itself is well-run, particularly safe and immaculately clean. The mayor, Regis Lebeaume is a tireless promoter of the Quebec City brand, locally and internationally and has raised its profile considerably since taking office.

His  single-mindedness and bullheadedness pursuing his civic goals (like an NHL franchise) has made him the subject of media attacks, but he shrugs off the criticism like water off a duck's back.
He enjoys a voter approval rating of over 70%, a number that would have any politician  preening with pride. 

Yesterday's ceremony in front of City Hall honouring the Royal 22nd Regiment (the Vandoos), was a credit to the City and its citizens and no doubt an utter humiliation to the RRQ and its members who valiantly tried to put a damper on the ceremonies, to no avail.

Unlike last year, when the RRQ disrupted Charles and Camilla's visit to Montreal, the protesters were hardly noticeable and had zero impact on the festivities. 
The RRQ promised to produce up to 500 protesters, but by Radio-Canada estimates, their numbers topped off at a few dozen.
How times have changed!

The Prince acquitted himself quite well and his speech, delivered exclusively in French, had an endearing effect on the crowd and television commentators who were duly impressed. Many of whom came to see the royal couple out of curiosity, left quite impressed.
Will and Kate greet friendly crowd in Quebec

The visit went off so well and the crowd was so friendly that William and Kate undertook a remarkable impromptu 'bain de foule' (walkabout.) Security forces felt so confident of the crowd, that they actually let them wade in, something that would be inconceivable a few years ago.

As for  Labeaume he described the event as magnificent. "I saw nothing but smiles!"


For the RRQ and other separatist militants, the success of the Royal visit to Quebec city is another grand humiliation, another reminder that Quebeckers have matured and are no longer susceptible to Chicken Little warnings of assimilation.
No matter how the RRQ spins events in the coming days, for them, it was nothing less than an unmitigated disaster!

And so, things haven't gone particularly well for the sovereigntists since last May's federal election. The downward spiral in support for the sovereignty movement doesn't appear to have touched bottom and in describing separatist fortunes of late, I can perhaps steal a line from the Queen, who once described her family difficulties as an Annus horribilus.

The protesting RRQ adopted the theme first enunciated by Amir Khadir, who declared rather rudely that the Royals were parasites.

I'm not so sure. Maintaining the monarchy costs each Canadian about a $1.50 a year, a pittance compared to the billions and billions of dollars that our government wastes annually.
Considering that Canadians spent about $30 each on the G8 summit in Toronto last year, the Royals are a right bargain.  That money could have kept the Royals in cucumber sandwiches for 20 years!

To all the sovereigntist militants who are squealing over the unpopularity of the monarchy in Quebec, the sad reality they face, is that according to the polls the Monarchy enjoys more popularity than sovereignty.
A fine kettle of fish!

Here's some raw video of the day. It will put to lie any claims that the  RRQ makes in the next few days that their small protest had any bearing. More importantly, the large, appreciative and cheering crowds attest to the  reality that Quebec is not what militants portray it to be.


While we are accustomed to hearing the rantings of the separatists in the press and the media, yesterday is proof that they have a much smaller constituency than we are led to believe.

55 comments:

  1. Good to know that William and Kate been well treated in Quebec City. I was in Montreal and there was no interference with the crowd here. Which mean I was not able to see William and Kate - not at all. Actually, no one from any part of the crowd saw them. I was there when they arrived, I was there when they left. I took hundred of pictures, but mostly from press, secret England agents (?), sexy Montreal cops so check my blog ok for once. It's really worth it :0)

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  2. The message is very clear: separatists do NOT count. They probably don't even know that it's thanks to the British Monarchy that French-Canadians were allowed to keep their language and culture, otherwise they would have been swept away or assimilated.
    This demonstrates the importance of getting a solid education and spending more times on the books rather than strolling around unkempt in stinky rags and making useless noise.

    WESTALLOPHONE++

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  3. Don't misinterpret the lack of protestors as a sign that Quebec is embracing the monarchy, quite the opposite, it's a Royal Indifference to the monarchy. Even in english Canada, people tend to be less monarchist and more republican than ever before. The future looks dim for these royal welfarites.

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  4. "They probably don't even know that it's thanks to the British Monarchy that French-Canadians were allowed to keep their language..."

    !? ... :)

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  5. CTV Montreal's last week editorial, eloquently delivered by Brian Wilson, voiced exactly my opinion about British Monarchy and its relationship with Canada.

    http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/MontrealHome/20110701/mtl_postscript_110701/

    "(The Monarchy) is becoming increasing irrelevant in my view.

    Our next head of state should be Canadian. Not Charles or William after him but a Canadian.

    I'm not too crazy about the fact that when new Canadians take their oaths of citizenship they are required to pledge allegiance to the head of a foreign power."

    On a related note, for shits and giggles, Marion Beaulieu holds the Duke and Duchess responsible for all the 'injustice' done to French Canadians, all the way from 1755. And that including the one done by Trudeau. Was Pierre Trudeau English, BTW?

    http://www.ssjb.com/contenu/la-monarchie-britannique-initie-lepuration-linguistique-que-poursuit-toujours-letat-canadien

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  6. Like the respondent from 8:21AM mentions, I am not a monarchist, but it was refreshing to see Quebec City in a more welcoming spirit unlike ugly protests of several years ago.

    I am for a Canadian republic, but I do recognize the brand of the British monarchy is very important for tourist purposes in the UK.

    I'll agree with Editor the monarchy was a bargain compared to, as Ignatieff referred to the G-20 fake lake, the enormous waste-a-ma-taxes, but I don't see why Canadians should pay $50 million towards the brand.

    I propose a few things re the monarchy:

    1. There should be an optional tick box on our federal tax returns asking each Canadian taxpayer if they CHOOSE to contribute $2.00 towards the monarchy. Opting to do so will neither increase one's taxes nor reduce one's refund. The Americans have this program for contributions towards presidential campaigns on their tax returns.

    2. Residents of Ontario have a line on their tax return enabling Ontario taxpayers, if they choose, to contribute all or a portion of their tax refunds towards a fund to reduce Ontario's debt. Similarly, a line could be added to all federal tax returns for those who want to contribute all or a portion of their refund towards support of the monarchy.

    3. During the next federal election (not for four years or so now), a referendum should be attached with a second ballot asking Canadians if they wish to retain the monarchy as head of state, or become an independent republic. By attaching it to an election, it greatly reduces the costs that an independent referendum would otherwise cost.

    Don't get me wrong. I don't see the monarchy as some kind of enemy as the separatists do. I simply believe Canada has evolved away from being a backwater country consisting mostly of WASPs and British loyalists to a multinational, multicultural mosaic. As a result of this, I'd like to see us as a nation develop under self-determination free of foreign influences. Our coins and currency should have OUR faces thereon, not those of foreigners. Many bills are already that way. Finally, I see monarchies as antiquated, and in a democracy, we should ELECT our heads of state, and they should not inherit the role by the accident of birth.

    Based on the criteria I have established in the previous paragraph, I reiterate the monarchy is an important brand for the British to preserve, but an antiquated concept that no longer fits in Canada. It doesn't mean they can't visit as foreign dignitaries, and anyone who wants to meet with them is free to do so, just like other dignitaries and celebrities.

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  7. Constitution Act, 1867

    Read more instead of using "!?".

    WESTALLOPHONE++

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  8. I couldn't be more indifferent about the British Monarchy, but at the same time I must admit I enjoy every minute of their presence in Quebec. The way it rattles some cages here is priceless.

    Also, as a naturalized Canadian citizen, I had no issues with pleading allegiance to the Queen. In fact, I like the European connection that Canada maintains. The fact that it ticks off Quebecois nationalists only sweetens the deal.

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  9. I’m a proud quebecois and was there yesterday in Quebec to say no to the monarchy. The protest was civilised and well organised by the RRQ.

    I personally was there to protest against public funds spending for non-democratically elected figures. They can come here at their own expenses but not with income tax money. The term parasite is exactly right in this case.

    The second reason I was there was to promote the idea of a Quebec republic. The independence of Quebec would put an end to the ridiculous link between the English monarchy and the state of Quebec.

    Finally, let’s not forget the deportation of acadians, the burning of quebec farms and the rapping of women under the orders of the crown.

    Note that a survey showed that a vast majority of quebecois are against the monarchy.

    Stefan Allinger

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  10. Troy wrote:

    Brian Wilson said, "Our next head of state should be Canadian. Not Charles or William after him but a Canadian."
    _______________________________________

    Although I don't know much about her as Canadians do, I was impressed by what I saw from the previous Governor-General, Michaëlle Jean. A native Francophone immigrant, she is living proof that you aren't white, male, or a native English speaker, you can still rise to one of the highest political offices in Canada. She has articulated on behalf of French-Canadian speakers outside of Quebec before the French President.

    If Canada were to become a republic and replace the office of Governor-General with President, she would be worthy of that office if she wished to serve again.

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  11. “The Prince acquitted himself quite well and his speech, delivered exclusively in French, had an endearing effect on the crowd and television commentators who were duly impressed.”

    Something sorely missed here. It just goes to show how much power these French scum bags have in Ottawa. We know they run Kebec, but they also run Ottawa. Why the hell wasn’t the speech done in English and French in Kebec?

    Just sick how much power these frenchies have in Ottawa. They continue to allow our language to be all but banned in Kebec (bills 22, 178, 101…) and spend a fortune forcing the french language all across the country a la expensive phony bilingual BS.

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  12. "Note that a survey showed that a vast majority of quebecois are against the monarchy."

    Are you talking about the same Quebecois who lost the war? Is there a reason then to take into account what they think?

    I believe that the British Monarchy prevailed in the war. Where else does the loser stake claims vis-a-vis the winner? La normalité mondiale, it's that the loser adapts to the winner, isn't it?

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  13. @Stefan Allinger

    Merci Stefan pour votre courage et votre engagement envers votre Nation.Ces clowns britanniques ne sont que des parasites de luxe.
    Seuls les colons (vraiment colons) sont dignent de s'associer a ces mascarades de mauvais goût.

    Elvis (Gratton),quand tu nous tiens.

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  14. @ Stefan Allinger:

    "They can come here at their own expenses but not with income tax money. The term parasite is exactly right in this case."

    Quebec has been a parasite on the rest of Canada for a long time and to a much greater extent. The billions of dollars in equalization payments to Quebec should be cut off.

    "Finally, let’s not forget the deportation of acadians, the burning of quebec farms and the rapping of women under the orders of the crown."

    There was a war on at the time and these incidents happened over 250 years ago. Get over it for Christ's sake! The empire of France didn't behave any better.

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  15. @Stefan Allinger

    I am a proud Quebecer who had ancestors killed by the British in the Battle of Quebec in 1690. I had Acadian ancestors who were deported. It has never even crossed my mind to hold a grudge against Britain or the British monarchy. I also had ancestors who were captured and/or killed by the Iroquois in the 1600s. I would never think to hold a grudge against aboriginals. These events occurred centuries ago and while they are unsavoury, they cannot be erased. That was the nature of the times of war and colonial settlement. Quebec lost in 1759, accept it. Centuries have passed, we should live in the present and not continue to be angry about things that can't be changed while blaming people who weren't there and therefore not responsible.

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  16. ...to adski: It's really high school to simply look for irritants against the nationalists. Yes, it's deliciously tempting to do it, but my agenda is more pro-Canada, at least the part excluding Quebec (I vehmently despise the term "English Canada", a term mischievously concocted by Lucien Bouchard when he led da Bloc, and sadly adopted by the French AND English media).

    A governor general would be redundant with a Canadian republic; furthermore, I share an American sentiment: Our heads of government/state should be indigenous Canadian citizens. There are plenty of opportunities for immigrant citizens to join the government if they wish, but I belive anything less than an indigenous citizen at the top is a conflict of interest. Stephane Dion had no business running for PM as a dual citizen with France. My only beef with Michaelle Jean was her once toasting to an independent Quebec; nevertheless, I was concerned that she may have been able unilaterally to dissolve parliament. Again, that should be up to an indigenous citizen of Canada. Agree or disagree, that's THIS man's opinion on Canada.

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  17. "Why the hell wasn’t the speech done in English and French in Kebec?"

    95%+ de la population est francophone et nous supposons que les 5%- sont aptent a comprendre le français,nous sommes encore au canada,non?

    Willie est un bon anglo qui a appris les bonnes manières,contrairement a plusieurs canadians.Ceci dit,il se débrouille assez bien en français,presque autant que sa maman.

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  18. Edward,

    "A native Francophone immigrant, she is living proof that you aren't white, male, or a native English speaker, you can still rise to one of the highest political offices in Canada."

    And I do believe that those were her attributes that compelled Paul Martin to choose her. It was a political decision by Martin to get her appointed. Her being francophone in particular was Martin's way of appeasing Quebec.

    As there was no particular love lost between Harper and Quebec he just chose someone who had anti-separatism track records. And that to the irritation of Mario Beaulieu. Ha-ha!

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  19. One the arguments used by many fractions of separatist movement is the Expulsion of the Acadians. The expulsion itself may or may not be a criminal to do, depends on one's point of view in relation with time and place. Maybe it is one thing that historians should think about.

    However, the one that makes me confused is that the argument is made by separatist movement of Quebec to refuse members of British Royal Family visit to Quebec. Why do the Acadians make the argument themselves? And since when does the Quebec separatist movement care about the Acadians?

    Remember that the Acadian is a different society than the Quebecois. Now the Acadians do not seem to have problem with the visit, why should Quebecois fight for their behalf?

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  20. "95%+ de la population est francophone et nous supposons que les 5%- sont aptent a comprendre le français,nous sommes encore au canada,non?"

    Aren't we playing with numbers a little too much?

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  21. Troy

    "Remember that the Acadian is a different society than the Quebecois."

    Pas tant que ça,nous avons au moins un point en commun.Jetez un coup d'oeil sur ce lien:

    http://www.asnb.ca/

    Ils sont aux prises,eux aussi,avec des anglos mal éduqués et a la pensée obtue.

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  22. "95%+ de la population est francophone"

    What if it's 99%? What's the relevance? Once again, who won the war?

    William represents the side that won the colonial war, when one colonial bully beat another one, while the other kids (i.e. the natives) looked on.

    So he can deliver his speeches in any language he wishes to whenever he's here. The fact that he chose to speak French shows grace and class on his part, and the fact that today Quebecois nationalists continue to make their preposterous claims shows grace on the part of the people who beat them in war.

    Not good enough? Then start a war and try to win it this time around. But what am I saying. You bunglers can't even win a referendum in 50 years, with 80% of the population that is up for grabs. How could you win a war?

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  23. "How could you win a war?"

    Mais voyons,en emplissant a toute vitesse le Québec juste avant la guerre avec,par exemple, des polocs néo-canayens ayant prêté serment et prêts a se battre bec et ongles pour sa majesté ou pour la feuille d'érable.

    Vous n'êtes pas très rapide adski,vous devriez observer un peu plus les méthodes de vos maîtres fédérastes.

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  24. "So he can deliver his speeches in any language he wishes to whenever he's here"

    Moi aussi j'aurais bien aimé qu'ils s'adresse a nous en anglais (le vrai anglais dailleurs)
    et voir la réaction de la foule mais surtout des médias :)

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  25. i'm an anglophone and this article is nothing but crap.

    the seperatist crowd numbered 800 at its peak while the parasites (sorry to be rude but they fit the definition) had virtually no fans except their cohort of carefully-picked journalists and dignitaries hidden behind police fences.

    these circus animals have no legitimacy at all in this province and i can understand why so many quebecers don't welcome their presence.

    since they can't go back in time, they have to go home.

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  26. @stefan

    then in that case Dollard Des Ormeaux is also guilty of crimes against humanity.

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  27. Given the percentage of support for sovereignty in the population in general and the lack of participation in the demonstration, it's fairly clear that the RRQ remains a very marginal voice in the sovereignty movement. Still, English media obviously like them.

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  28. "then in that case Dollard Des Ormeaux is also guilty of crimes against humanity."

    Aurait-il embarqué femmes et enfants sur des rafiots pour ensuite les faire voyager en haute mer vers une mort presque certaine?Ballotés d'une colonie a l'autre ou leur accès était systématiquement refusé en raison de leur croyance religieuse(papistes).Ces familles étaient parfois déportés aussi loin que l'Angleterre et laissées a eux-même dans des conditions totalement inhumaines.

    N'oubliez pas que la déportation de 1755 était une opération de nettoyage ethnique donc basée sur le mépris d'une autre race.

    Dites-moi,quel crime contre l'humanité,le sauveur de la Nouvelle-France aurait-il commis?

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  29. Press 9 all those that got deported had the chance to swear allegiance to the new regime. Those that did not got deported. France didn't even want the acadians repatriated to France. They were treated as unwanted guests in France and more so in Quebec when those that didn't get deported managed to get there. Compared to Dollard des ormeaux the Brits were much more humain.

    Yes so I guess Bill 101 and the forcing of English speaking companies were an indirect way of forcing 200 000 plus english speakers to leave Quebec. Of course it was in a different from the Acadian deportations but still relevant in terms of so called "modern day" human values. Pur laine chauvanists make up most of their history anyway. So people like Press 9 can't be taken seriously. What they don't like they deny or make up responses.

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  30. @ Press 9 for A-hole,

    "N'oubliez pas que la déportation de 1755 était une opération de nettoyage ethnique donc basée sur le mépris d'une autre race."

    "Dites-moi,quel crime contre l'humanité,le sauveur de la Nouvelle-France aurait-il commis?"

    There has been ethnic cleansing taking place in the modern version of New France (Quebec) for the past 40 years. The English are being forced out by racist, draconian French language laws. The English are not being forced onto boats but the net effect is still the same.

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  31. Press 9,

    "Dites-moi,quel crime contre l'humanité,le sauveur de la Nouvelle-France aurait-il commis?"

    Have you seen Maisonneuve Monument at Place d'Armes in Montreal?

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Mort_heroique_de_Dollard_au_Long_Sault.JPG
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Exploit_de_la_Place_d%27Armes.JPG

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  32. Anonymous at 14:38,

    You still do not answer my question. If the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are somehow implicated for the Expulsion of the Acadians, why do the Acadians not make the protest? Or is it just a lame excuse the Quebec separatists grasp to make noise?

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  33. ...to Press 9: Seigneur, tu as mangé une douzaine de beignes encore avec un Pepsi. Sucre, sucre, sucre....

    ...to Troy: I don't think the Acadians care for «Québécois pur laine» one iota. I only learned this just under 30 years ago when I took a job in Ottawa, and there were 4 Acadians on the team from NB. Whew...how they dissed their Québécois cousins! For me, this was a wake-up call. I didn't realize these people had such disdain for their fellow French-speakers, but I sure heard it!

    Da Bloc, under Bouchard or the others wouldn't have done ANYTHING to appease NB or Francophones anywhere else outside Quebec. They would have had their own nation to worry about had they been successful...mostly taking care of their fiscal imbalances.

    It's for this reason France would pay Quebec nothing more than lip service had separation taken place, or if it ever does in the future. France has always been a s--t-disturber--big talk, no action.

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  34. "...were an indirect way of forcing 200 000 plus english speakers to leave Quebec. Of course it was in a different from the Acadian deportations..."

    In my opinion, the main difference between the Acadian deportation and the Anglo-canadians living in Québec deportation is in the case of Acadians the deportation concerned the entire population while in the case of Anglos the deportation concerned only the best.

    Y.

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  35. "The English are being forced out by racist, draconian French language laws. The English are not being forced onto boats but the net effect is still the same.

    Personne n'a expulsé ces milliers d'anglos ou forcer qui que se soit a quitté le Québec.Ils avaient le choix.Ils n'avaient qu'a apprendre le français et/and "swear allegiance to the new regime".

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  36. Haïti chérie dit: À Westallophone: ''They probably don't even know that it's thanks to the British Monarchy that French-Canadians were allowed to keep their language and culture, otherwise they would have been swept away or assimilated.'' Vous vivez encore dans vos fantasmes de bonté ! La monarchie et le peuple britannique n'a rien à voir avec le fait que les canadiens-français parlent toujours français ! Lorsque le sort de la Nouvelle-France fût scellé en 1760, les soldats britanniques quittèrent le territoire en laissant que quelques effectifs, nettement inférieurs que durant la guerre. Ne voulant pas de soulèvement de la population locale, ils firent preuve de largesse afin d'avoir la paix. Franchement, allez donc parler aux colonies anglaises (voir la Rhodésie par exemple...) si les britanniques étaient si gentils... Je vous laisse tirer les conclusions...

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  37. "France has always been a s--t-disturber--big talk"

    Si jamais un Airbus A380 passe au dessus de Mississauga,courez vers l'abri le plus proche...on ne sait jamais.

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  38. "Dites-moi,quel crime contre l'humanité,le sauveur de la Nouvelle-France aurait-il commis?"

    La Nouvelle-France is a continuity of Old France. The inhabitants of New France profited directly from colonial exploits and crimes of Old France.

    Also, settling on someone else's land, even if someone else (the army of Old France) did the fighting on your behalf, makes you complicit in the crime. In the very least, it makes you a profiteer.

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  39. Anon who pretends to be an anglo, but is probably a bilingual franco: "these circus animals have no legitimacy at all in this province"

    These "circus animals" have never been denounced in any of Francophone media outlets.
    Not. In. A. Single. One.
    Not. A. Single. Time.

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  40. "...but is probably a bilingual franco"

    Satané kiki!Y'aurait-il des traitres au sein de votre clan?Les anglos ne sont pas a l'abri des erreurs kiki.Ho!Conspiration peut-être?

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  41. "Have you seen Maisonneuve Monument at Place d'Armes in Montreal?"

    Oui mais je ne vois que des scènes de guerre,aucun crime envers l'humanité.Vous ne saisissez pas la nuance n'est-ce pas?

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  42. "...the deportation concerned the entire population while in the case of Anglos the deportation concerned only the best."

    Ouch!Vous n'y allez pas avec le dos de la cuillère Y mais vos interventions sont toujours tordantes!
    Insinuriez-vous que les anglos demeurés au Québec seraient de moindre qualité ou de déficiente qualité?Honte a vous chenapan!

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  43. Anonymous at 10:16,

    "Vous ne saisissez pas la nuance n'est-ce pas?"

    I do not know, maybe I do not. Can you please explain it to me?

    All I see is a colonial power killing the native population and stealing their land.

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  44. "All I see is a colonial power killing the native population and stealing their land."

    Une bataille d'hommes a hommes ou les femmes et les enfants ne sont pas exterminés/Déportés de façon massive.

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  45. @ Y. for Yahoo,

    "...in the case of Acadians the deportation concerned the entire population while in the case of Anglos the deportation concerned only the best."

    The remaining Anglos in Quebec are still better than the best Quebecois.

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  46. Haiti Chérie...
    Si vous continuez à nier l'histoire et la realité et à faire du Québec un monde parallel (presque fictif) au lieu de le mettre dans la realité reélle, il n'y a pas l'espoir de bâtir un monde meillieur.
    L'histoire est claire : vous avez perdu la guerre et les britanniques d'ailleurs vous ont permis de garder la langue française au lieu de vous exterminer.
    Vous pouvez dire que les britanniques étaient cruels et des bêtes, mais après plus de 200 ans y a-t-il encore du sense de garder de la rancune au lieu d'avancer vers le future ?


    WESTALLOPHONE++

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  47. As usual the seppies are back in force ... oh wait, how many are there? oh yeah not many.
    Case closed, yap all u want.

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  48. @ Anomynous ("WESTALLOPHONE") July 4, 2011 7:39 AM

    Westallophone said, "They probably don't even know that it's thanks to the British Monarchy that French-Canadians were allowed to keep their language and culture, otherwise they would have been swept away or assimilated. "

    The British sovereign may be the symbol of the British government, but even in the 18th Century, the king did not do everything. If any individual deserves credit for the Quebec Act, it was Lord Dorchester, not George III.

    Ironically, that same act was one of the factors that caused the Americans to revolt against Great Britain and is cited in the Declaration of Independence.

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  49. "au lieu de vous exterminer"

    Westy,we love you!

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  50. Anonymous at 11:33,

    "Une bataille d'hommes a hommes ou les femmes et les enfants ne sont pas exterminés/Déportés de façon massive."

    So the slaughter of men, women and children is not a crime as not as it is not 'massive'. So where do you draw the line betwen crime and not crime? 100 is okay? What about 200? 500? 3400? 7894? 39872?

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  51. "So the slaughter of men, women and children is not a crime..."

    Troy,voyez-vous une différence entre les batailles de la 2ème guerre mondiale et le génocide du Kosovo par exemple?Ce n'est pas la quantité de victimes qui les distingue mais bien le modus operandi ainsi que le but de l'opération.

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  52. Haïti chérie dit: À WESTALLOPHONE++, je n'ai jamais dit que les Britanniques avaient été plus bêtes et cruels que les autres. C'est vous qui vivez dans un monde parallèle ou vous vous croyiez victimes actuellement des méchants Québécois. De plus, vous donnez des prétentions totalement fausses, les Britanniques n'étaient pas plus gentils que les autres et les raisons pour lesquelles le français, le culte catholique et le droit ont subsisté n'ont rien à voir avec une quelconque grandeur d'esprit, désolé... Relisez vos bouquins d'histoire... Et en passant, vive le Québec libre et indépendant !

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  53. "Et en passant, vive le Québec libre et indépendant !"

    Tout a fait,libre de CERTAINS anglos,ceux qui n'ont pas su s'adapter et ne le sauront jamais,parceque victimes d'une fermeture d'esprit chronique et irréversible.
    Mes amis anglos sont bilingues et vivent en français sauf un ou deux qui vivent en anglais a la maison.

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  54. To Qq chose de pourri,

    "As usual the seppies are back in force ... oh wait, how many are there? oh yeah not many."

    You're quite right. Press 9 is trying to make it appear that there are more seppie posts by using different profiles. He is currently alternating between Press 9, Anonymous and Maxime Berne. His posts stand out like a sore thumb no matter how he identifies himself.

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  55. @ Haiti cherie at 12:43 PM,

    After the British defeated the French in Quebec, they treated the French settlers very fairly by allowing them to retain their language, Catholic religion, culture and legal system. Concessions like these to the vanquished were unheard of at the time. The French settlers in Quebec had more rights to practise their Catholic religion than even British Catholics did back then.

    I doubt that you read much about Quebec/Canadian history in your Haitian slum. I suggest you read about it now.

    Long live a Canada free of ungrateful, treasonous immigrants!

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